SRL Archive - News and General

We’re delighted to be able to announce that we’ve finally triumphed in our 2-year legal battle with Impulse Software, the developers of the iBOT RuneScape botting software.

Their statement on their websites sums it up very nicely:

“Farewell,

We (Mark/Eric Snellman t/a Impulse Software) have owned and operated the websites www.rscheata.net, www.impsoft.net and www.oembots.com for several years. We’ve been developing and making money through these websites from botting software called iBOT that works exclusively with RuneScape.

We’ve been involved in a lawsuit with Jagex in the US regarding the legality of this software and our actions for the last two years.

Recently, judgment was entered in Jagex’s favor at Court on every count in the case. We have to pay Jagex a significant sum of money, although we are not allowed to say exactly how much for legal reasons. We are also prevented by injunction from doing a number of things in the future, including developing botting software, helping other people develop or use botting software or talking about Jagex, the lawsuit or RuneScape. If we breach any of the conditions of the injunction (such as by developing new bot software or helping people cheat in RuneScape) we would have to pay Jagex at least $1,000,000.

Throughout the course of this lawsuit, we’ve come to understand the harm that botting does to RuneScape and Jagex. We’d like to apologize to Jagex and to all legitimate RuneScape players for the damage and harm iBOT has done.

In the next few weeks our websites, domains, code and customer details will be passed over to Jagex along with details of all those people who we know have developed scripts for iBOT and sold or re-sold those scripts.

We also won’t be going near Jagex or any Jagex game ever again. In fact, we’re prohibited from playing RuneScape or any other Jagex game ever again as a condition of this case ending.

Shortly, all references to iBOT and Impulse Software will disappear from the internet. We’d encourage all of you who have scripts or iBOT to delete them and certainly not to try and use or develop them. We’ve not been able to fix them anyway following Bot Nuke week, but if you did manage to get them working again, you’d be open to the same claims Jagex has made against us.

Mark and Eric Snellman – trading as Impulse Software”

Obviously, this is a big win for us, but it’s also just one of the latest initiatives in our ongoing offensive to permanently stamp out botting and gold-farming in RuneScape. First and foremost, we’ve remained dedicated to this cause to provide you - our esteemed community - an enduringly great game, and we’ve no intention of stopping here.

We remain committed to our ongoing work to ensure that the successes of Bot Nuke Day are never undone by staying a few steps ahead in the arms race with the remaining bot developers and gold farmers. We’re already well underway with our next generation of anti-botting software called Optimus, which is going to be released shortly, and we’re also currently developing ways to remove the remaining screen-scraper bots from the game. We’ll also be continuing to fight gold-farmers on every front.

The team has been dedicated to eliminating the last of the performance issues experienced by some users since Bot Nuke Day, and we will shortly be releasing an update intended to resolve these problems. We’re also planning further improvements to game accessibility and performance in future updates this year.

Have fun!

Cheers,

Mark Gerhard
CEO & CTO

Taken from their homepage. Thoughts? Personally I lol'ed at the "screen-scraper" comment.

Yeah just read that lol. Idk tho becuse everyone thought they were lieing when they said goodfight reflection/injection…but it worked :x

From: Itankbots
Yeah just read that lol. Idk tho becuse everyone thought they were lieing when they said goodfight reflection/injection…but it worked :x

They aren't ever going to defeat color. It's not possible

It's just not possible in my eyes to stop color bots…especially Simba. It is a completely separate program, has functions called to read the screen, checks colors/texts/shapes and performs a click based on those things. The only thing I can see them doing to combat it is to drastically change colors/shapes of things daily/weekly, which would piss off a lot of legit players.

All I've seen them do to fight color bots is change the randoms and the colors of things in them. The BeeHive, Coffin, Molly random…etc. I haven't been botting for over 2 weeks, but from what I've seen, developers here have already found ways around this.

Here's a leaked photo I have of the future Runescape color-nuke they plan to release:

Giggle.

From: shstiger2009
It's just not possible in my eyes to stop color

lol =D oh btw the already change the shape of some things in rs, like sometimes rs item pixels shift a little.

Edit : lol Risk <3

From: shstiger2009
It's just not possible in my eyes to stop color bots…especially Simba. It is a completely separate program, has functions called to read the screen, checks colors/texts/shapes and performs a click based on those things. The only thing I can see them doing to combat it is to drastically change colors/shapes of things daily/weekly, which would piss off a lot of legit players.

All I've seen them do to fight color bots is change the randoms and the colors of things in them. The BeeHive, Coffin, Molly random…etc. I haven't been botting for over 2 weeks, but from what I've seen, developers here have already found ways around this.

SRL never completes randoms. and people said the same thing about reflection/injection. Idk. i wouldnt be suprised if they pull of something is all im saying. Nothing is imposisble

From: Itankbots
SRL never completes randoms. and people said the same thing about reflection/injection. Idk. i wouldnt be suprised if they pull of something is all im saying. Nothing is imposisble

I'm going to have to agree with this.. but it's also a matter of if they did pull it off, how long would it last.

Woot!
We're going to be playing RS blind!!!

From: RISK
Here's a leaked photo I have of the future Runescape color-nuke they plan to release:

Giggle.

Detailed DTM's would become what I would use :p

Black and white RS sounds fun

From: Itankbots
SRL never completes randoms. and people said the same thing about reflection/injection. Idk. i wouldnt be suprised if they pull of something is all im saying. Nothing is imposisble

Ignorance is shining thru….

Oh, they have a fix for that too, my friend. They do:

You see, this velociraptor appears whenever the game detects you are bot-like or that you are relying on specific pixels to detect something. It also makes a very terrifying roar.

Truly a genius idea to help stop screen-scaping bots, don't you think?

From: PatDuffy
Detailed DTM's would become what I would use :p

That…is GENIUS!

"We remain committed to our ongoing work to ensure that the successes of Bot Nuke Day are never undone by staying a few steps ahead in the arms race with the remaining bot developers and gold farmers. We&#8217;re already well underway with our next generation of anti-botting software called Optimus, which is going to be released shortly, and we&#8217;re also currently developing ways to remove the remaining screen-scraper bots from the game. We&#8217;ll also be continuing to fight gold-farmers on every front."

Bring it on.

Btw heres a citidal miner (so it has walking too) that I made a while back that doesn't use color, apart from compass.

//{$Define SMART}
Program CitidalMine;
{$IfDef SMART}
  {$I SRL\SRL\Misc\SMART.SCAR}
{$EndIf}
{$i SRL\SRL.scar}

Var
  PD, PT: Integer;
  PC, MSCC: TPoint;
  OldSWL : String;

Const
  Direct = 0;


Function Compas: Integer;
Begin
  Result := Round( RS_GetCompassAngleDegrees);
End;

Function TR: String;
Begin
  Result := ' Time :' + TimeRunning + '.';
End;

Procedure SWL( S: String);
Begin
  If S = OldSWL Then Exit;
  Writeln( S + TR);
  OldSWL := S;
End;

Procedure MMM( X, Y, T: Integer);
//I got tired of typing MMouse, Mouse. So I made this to ease my life abit:P
//T = 0 is mmouse, T = 1 is mouse( x, y, rx, ry, true) and T = 2 is mouse( x, y, rx, ry, false).
Begin
  If T > 0 Then
  Begin
    If T > 1 Then
      Mouse( X, Y, 0, 0, False)
    Else
    Begin
      T := 0;
      Repeat
        Mouse( X, Y, 0, 0, True);
        Inc( T)
      Until T > RandomRange( 0, 1);
    End;
  End Else
    Mmouse( X, Y, 0, 0);
End;

Function PtToPol( A: Integer; I, C: Tpoint): Integer;
//Convert an point'I'to a angle'Result'from the center point'C'.
//A is a over ride if you wish to use a custom compass angle.
var
  N: TPoint;
  D , H: Integer;
Begin

  If A = 0 Then
    D := Compas
  else
    D := A;
  I.X := I.X - C.X;
  I.Y := I.Y - C.Y;
  H := Round( Hypot( I.X, I.Y));
  If H = 0 Then
    H := 1;
  I.X := 76 * I.X / H;
  I.Y := 76 * I.Y / H;
  N := Inttopoint( - Round( 1000 * Sin( Radians( D))), - Round( 1000 * Cos( Radians( D))));
  H := Round( Hypot( N.X, N.Y));
  N := IntToPoint( 76 * N.X / H, 76 * N.Y / H);
  Result := 360 - Round( Degrees( ArcCos( ( N.X * I.X + N.Y * I.Y) / ( 1 + Hypot( I.X, I.Y) * Hypot( N.X, N.Y)))));

  If Result > 0 Then
  Begin
    If D < 180 Then
    Begin
      If ( ( I.X < 0) and ( I.Y < N.Y)) or ( ( I.X > 0) and ( I.Y < -1 * N.Y)) Then Result:= 360 - Result;
    End else
      If ( ( I.X < 0) and ( I.Y > -1 * N.Y)) or ( ( I.X > 0) and ( I.Y > N.Y)) Then Result:= 360 - Result;
  End;

End;

Function PolToPt( A, H: Integer; C: Tpoint): TPoint;
//Convert a angle'A'to a point'Result'from the center'C'.
//'H'is the distance from the point'C'.
Var
  P: TPoint;
  Rh: Integer;
Begin
  A := 360 - A;
  P.X := Round( - 100 * Sin( Radians( Compas + A )));
  P.Y := Round( - 100 * Cos( Radians( Compas + A )));
  Rh := Round( Hypot( P.X, P.Y));
  P.X := C.X + H * P.X / Rh
  P.Y := C.Y + H * P.Y / Rh;
  Result:= P;
End;

Function PtToHyp( I, C: TPoint): Integer;
//Get the distance'Result'of the point'I'from the center point'C'.
Begin
  Result := Round( Hypot( I.X - C.X, I.Y - C.Y));
End;

Procedure HandleAntiBan;
Begin
  SWL( 'Handling anti ban.');
  MouseSpeed := RandomRange( 13, 19);
  Disguise( 'Time from mark is '+IntToStr(TimeFromMark(PT))+'.');
  Case Random( 22) Of
    0: Wait( Random( 1000));
    1: MMM( Random( MIX2), Random( MIY2), 0);
    2: Wait( Random( 1000));
    3: Wait( Random( 1000));
    4: Wait( Random( 1000));
    5: Wait( Random( 1000));
    6: Wait( Random( 1000));
    7: Wait( Random( 1000));
    8: Wait( Random( 1000));
    9: Wait( Random( 1000));
    10: Wait( Random( 1000));
    11: Wait( Random( 1000));
    12: Wait( Random( 1000));
    13: Wait( Random( 1000));
    14: Wait( Random( 1000));
    15: Wait( Random( 1000));
    16: Wait( Random( 1000));
    17: Wait( Random( 1000));
    18: Wait( Random( 1000));
    19: Wait( Random( 1000));
    20: Wait( Random( 1000));
    21: MakeCompass( RandomRange( -360, 360));

    //6..19: Wait( Random( 1000));
    //16: HoverSkill( 'mining', False);
    //17..19: MakeCompass( RandomRange( -360, 360));

  End;
End;

Procedure MineCW;
//PD = 0 is west, pd = 1 is east.
Begin
  //PC := PolToPt( RandomRange( - 20, 20), RandomRange( 10,60), MSCC);
  Disguise( 'Time from mark is '+IntToStr(TimeFromMark(PT))+'.');
  If TimeFromMark( PT) > ( RANDOMRANGE(6500,9500)) Then
  Begin
    Disguise( 'Time from mark is '+IntToStr(TimeFromMark(PT))+'.');
    If PD = 0 Then
    Begin
      SWL('Clicking type 0');
      PC := PolToPt( Direct + RandomRange( 65, 75), RandomRange( 90,150), MSCC);
      MMM( PC.X, PC.Y, 0);
      Wait( 100 + Random( 400));
      MarkTime( Pt);
      MMM( PC.X, PC.Y, 1);
      PD := 1;
    End Else
    Begin
      SWl('Clicking type 1');
      PC := PolToPt( Direct + RandomRange( 280, 290), RandomRange( 90,150), MSCC);
      MMM( PC.X, PC.Y, 0);
      Wait( 100 + Random( 400));
      MarkTime( Pt);
      MMM( PC.X, PC.Y, 1);
      PD := 0;
    End;
  End Else
    HandleAntiBan;
End;

Begin
  {$IfDef SMART}
    Smart_Server := 129;
    Smart_Members := True;
    Smart_Signed := True;
    Smart_SuperDetail := False;
    SmartSetTarget;
  {$EndIf}
  Setupsrl;
  MSCC := IntToPoint( MSCX, MSCY);
  PD := Random( 2);
  Repeat
    MineCW;
  Until False;
End.

LSD RuneScape will be fun :P We must try some acid to see if it cancels the effects out.

Jagex may not be able to detect color bots as easily as reflection/injection,
But they can still go after the developers of Simba (Wizzup?) and take 'em to court.

So basically their 'new' anti botting method is taking bot developers to court.

What for? Wizzup has done nothing wrong and neither has Simba / SRL / Developers. We are a non-profit 'Group' and we abide by the laws.

From: RISK
What for? Wizzup has done nothing wrong and neither has Simba / SRL / Developers. We are a non-profit 'Group' and we abide by the laws.

I doubt Jagex sees it that way.
It's still a bot - a 'threat' to Runescape,

However, perhaps they can't take legal action since Simba/SRL is non-profit.
I would not know.

Simba itself does not break any laws. The only thing that can be even argued over is the SRL include.

Simba is not generically for Runescape, we simply choose to use it so ;)
As stated by Wizzup? :P

From: oo00o
I doubt Jagex sees it that way.
It's still a bot - a 'threat' to Runescape,

However, perhaps they can't take legal action since Simba/SRL is non-profit.
I would not know.

Simba is not a bot, It's a program that can be used to find colors, shapes, etc. and can act upon what it finds. It will never be taken down by Jagex.

One thing that I found interesting about the lawsuit…

n the next few weeks our websites, domains, code and customer details will be passed over to Jagex along with details of all those people who we know have developed scripts for iBOT and sold or re-sold those scripts.

hmm…

From: Caotom
One thing that I found interesting about the lawsuit…


hmm…

They already had all the customer emails from Paypal….what more do they need?

I find that odd too, did iBot have any kind of agreement with the customer? like "we will never share your information" stuff? hmm…

Also, from the wording of the statement, it appears that Optimus isn't even directed at color bots.

From: oo00o
I doubt Jagex sees it that way.
It's still a bot - a 'threat' to Runescape,

However, perhaps they can't take legal action since Simba/SRL is non-profit.
I would not know.

As others have stated, it's not a bot, it's a program which can detect colors, shapes, and text on your computer. People use it for Runescape. Sure they can ban you for using an automated program if they have enough proof, but there is no hacking of the client done or looking at the actual game code. In other words, they can't do shit about anyone using Simba but ban they're account.

What I find odd is that they actually leave the goldfarming bots and go after the simple color bots well seriously jagex doesn't thinks enough clearly.
I think we should be proud they consider us that much of a threat.

they'd be more likely to go for rid or runedream than going after us.

you guys are laughing with this, but pb,epicbot,… did also laugh, thought they still aren't back.

From: lordvolt
you guys are laughing with this, but pb,epicbot,… did also laugh, thought they still aren't back.

Not really laughing you just can't take them serious long term.
Reflection bots or whatever injection are back massive scale this was a big improvement for the gold farmers becouse theyre the ones using that.
I personally don't see why they would even consider stopping us like yeah we are not doing anything important right now so we just go charge our members even more and then stop the bots and leave the goldfarmers honestly it woulden't suprise me if those gold selling company's were owned by jagex becouse it seems they are the ones never affected by anything at all.

From: lordvolt
you guys are laughing with this, but pb,epicbot,… did also laugh, thought they still aren't back.

But jagex already new how to "temp" break them, with reflection each update they stop working until some one gets the hook.

From: Main

Bring it on.

Btw heres a citidal miner (so it has walking too) that I made a while back that doesn't use color, apart from compass.

:thumbsup: Good luck stopping math? :)

I personally find it amusing that even now with servers as dead as they are they are still pushing to find more of us. Like really? Who the hell wants to cut 100000000 logs for 99 woodcutting. And good luck going after RiD too.

I'm sure many people know this, but I figure I should post it for those who don't.

Breaking the rules of a game is not illegal. Breaking the terms and conditions that you agree to when you sign up for an account is not illegal.

The only reason they could sue iBot is because the company used methods that directly attached to and modified the game coding itself, which is Jagex's property. This is illegal.

"Screen scrapers" are not illegal. They do not edit or deal with the code of Runescape, and are therefore only breaking the rules of the game.

The only possibility of getting rid of SRL would be because SRL previously allowed injection/reflection. So maybe they could sue based on past actions, but never on the current state of SRL.

No offense but I hadn't even heard of this site till last week :s I highly doubt Jagex would go after admins on this site, as it's been said this site is nonprofit, other sites like RiD etc you have to pay to use their bots= more of a threat in jagexs eyes. I hope they don't manage to stop these bots anyways as thanks to Flight the badass I am creeping upto 99 rc :D

EDIT: Although I am not underestimating Jagex, sooooo many people including me thought they couldn't give a damn about rs/weren't bothered about the bots due to the revenue generated and oh look, bot nuke day… Hence why I am powering through zmi :P I suspect it'll be in a week or two =/ Also they have Jacmob from RsBuddy working for them now and he was sure they would be able to stop colour bots also =/ Idk how though >.<

See the reason we can't be stopped legally is because what we do is 100% legal, simba can be used for ANYTHING we just happen to have a forum called runescape scripts. We do NOT alter any in-game code.

Legally they cannot take us down

Technologically they cannot take us down unless of course velociraptor comes to play, then we are screwed. We don't need ID's etc. The only thing I can see Jagex doing is to create objects that change in shape/color dramatically pretty often; but what are the chances of that, no legit player would know what is going on.

From: R4nd0m
Technologically they cannot take us down unless of course velociraptor comes to play

I'm having this as my signature! :D I could see them doing a move like making rune/pure essence square, but of course just make new DTMs and you're good.

From: R4nd0m
See the reason we can't be stopped legally is because what we do is 100% legal, simba can be used for ANYTHING we just happen to have a forum called runescape scripts. We do NOT alter any in-game code.

Legally they cannot take us down

Technologically they cannot take us down unless of course velociraptor comes to play, then we are screwed. We don't need ID's etc. The only thing I can see Jagex doing is to create objects that change in shape/color dramatically pretty often; but what are the chances of that, no legit player would know what is going on.

May I ask what velociraptor is? And I agree with what you said, they couldn't do that because of the legit players. That would be so frustrating and everyone would move to a different game.

Velociraptor is a being of pure energy that vapourises bots the second they start running :)

From: Dark_Yaz
Velociraptor is a being of pure energy that vapourises bots the second they start running :)

Oh hahahahahahaha.

From: shstiger2009
May I ask what velociraptor is? And I agree with what you said, they couldn't do that because of the legit players. That would be so frustrating and everyone would move to a different game.

From: RISK
Oh, they have a fix for that too, my friend. They do:

You see, this velociraptor appears whenever the game detects you are bot-like or that you are relying on specific pixels to detect something. It also makes a very terrifying roar.

That is Velociraptor.
Hope that helps :)
–

On topic, we have nothing to fear but fear itself!

Tough luck for those guys…..gotta be smart when botting/creating botting software. Don't do it illegaly!

Lol lol'ed irl to the above pic.

Jagex won't be able to stop this program. End of. :D

Nah you can carry on debating if ya want im just bored so posted after reading all though this

It is kind of ironic, back a year or so people on forums that used reflection said that their bots will never break, and now we say the same thing… Jagex isn't stupid so you guys should start treating them like they mean business… Because they do.

Now I'm not saying everyone flip their shit, I'm just saying don't be surprised if they somehow find a way to stop color bots in the future.

From: jordi1104
Please stop being a leech

You are some dumb bitch.

From: uz3
It is kind of ironic, back a year or so people on forums that used reflection said that their bots will never break, and now we say the same thing… Jagex isn't stupid so you guys should start treating them like they mean business… Because they do.

Now I'm not saying everyone flip their shit, I'm just saying don't be surprised if they somehow find a way to stop color bots in the future.

Please stop being a leech we know they mean bussiness but honestly they can't do alot we are not priority number 1 on their agenda so we don't worry since when the time comes we Will see what we can do also simba is not a bot.
Color is easy to adjust unlike reflection.
If they release a anti color update they have to start worrying about ogl.
Something will come up it always does.

This has been discussed many of times.

It is near impossible to stop/detect colour bots. Unless they really went to extreme lengths to stop bots and go as far as turning RS into 'GreyScape' by changing everything in game into a shade of grey. And they are not going to do that, because it will be virtually unplayable.

Simba is not a RS Botting application, Simba is an automation program which does tasks by finding colours and shapes.

Now will you all stop moaning. Until it becomes 'GreyScape' and the Velociraptor comes into play. You are all safe.

First, The idea of the dinosaur……PURE GENIUS!….that is the day i will completely stop and admit defeat lol…Other than that…well Good luck GreyScape :) might actually be fun :D lol…

I love it when people say Simba Bot…Simba = Application…Coding = Script…Simba has no affiliation with Runescape. It is used for more than just Runescape…GL Jagex :)

Like someone stated: It's impossible to rid of color bots, it will just be harder to develop them.

PS: thank god for Yohojo's scripting tutorials XD.

Personally after reading that statement, if I was RSBot or similar I'd be running away with my tail between my legs. I'm pretty sure that unless a program/application is designed to be directly used against Jagex, no legalities can occur.

well i can think of a way they can decrease the number of bots running but it would mean stopping th use of browser and make a client that has a random string that has to match with the program and acounnt before alowing login such as the wow security keychain but software based.

Jagex will never be able to kill colour bots. Due to the fact that everything has to be white/black/grey.

doesnt mean they wont try, everyone wants to see if Optimus is such a big deal, big expectation from both legiters and botters, Jacmob said they will release it in March…

I think we're missing the key words:

Optimus, which is going to be released shortly, and we’re also currently developing ways to remove the remaining screen-scraper bots from the game.

They don't have anything. They're trying to develop something… We all know how long they take… lol…

From: footballjds
I think we're missing the key words:


They don't have anything. They're trying to develop something… We all know how long they take… lol…

Yeah just like I am currently developing a way to live forever… going well so far actually :P

I just don't understand the bot-nukes. They will only lose more players and a lot of money..

Their attempts so far at stopping color scripts have been pathetic. Change the color of some randoms and make drops kind of hard to see. Oh no…

From: Floppie
I just don't understand the bot-nukes. They will only lose more players and a lot of money..

Maybe they care more about their customers more than they care about money.

From: brandon8081
Maybe they care more about their customers more than they care about money.

And maybe they know mass botting would kill the game sooner or later.

From: RISK
Here's a leaked photo I have of the future Runescape color-nuke they plan to release:

Giggle.

Lol. Love it!

That's a good one RISK

that is old news post something new all we know is that reflection/injection is going to die for good, and mod jacmob is going to get us, if he didnt betray rs buddy and went down fighting we would be good but he team with the enemy. i think we got atleast until the next runefest so we are good for now.

real things to cry about powerbot isnt going to be open source so yeah its like epicbot probably.

Is it safe(meaning not getting banned) to bot during March? Like is it okay for us to use any script on simba, bot and not get banned cause of the nuke that is supposed to happen soon? "Optimus"

Botting has its risks you always have a chance to get banned if you use it.

i know how Jagex can destroy colour bots, bot if i tell you guys then some1 might tell Jagex so I have to keep it to myself

From: dgpro
i know how Jagex can destroy colour bots, bot if i tell you guys then some1 might tell Jagex so I have to keep it to myself

Yeah me too. By making RS for blind people ;)


~Home

From: rice
Botting has its risks you always have a chance to get banned if you use it.

I know that but is it a higher risk in march? lol im just firemaking

From: dgpro
i know how Jagex can destroy colour bots, bot if i tell you guys then some1 might tell Jagex so I have to keep it to myself

Kid, you're about as good at making terrible posts as it comes. I looked through your posts and all it is was 255 posts of you complaining about bots because you can't read the first post how to run it, lies, and complete garbage with no point to it. You know nothing, so please quit acting like you're something special. You aren't and at the rate you're going, you never will be. :f:

color bots 4 eva

If they implement the Raptor, I'll just give up and walk away saying "Good one, Jagex, you win." Lol.

From: Kyle Undefined
If they implement the Raptor, I'll just give up and walk away saying "Good one, Jagex, you win." Lol.

Might be worth it too :P

From: RISK
Here's a leaked photo I have of the future Runescape color-nuke they plan to release:

Giggle.

wouldn't this make RS even easier to bot… just think about doing DTMs in black and white :)

See the Raptor update. :)

From: JOEbot
wouldn't this make RS even easier to bot… just think about doing DTMs in black and white :)

/\ win! but seriously, i doubt the only way they could kill us (somewhat) is to manage to make it so only web browsers could load runescape… and even then implementing something of that nature for them would be a pain (plus simba can just move our mouse xD).

Morale of the story, Jagex is all bark, but no bite

They can stop us by providing Runescape, on to FunORB ;)

From: Markus
LSD RuneScape will be fun :P We must try some acid to see if it cancels the effects out.

Lets renew the SRL Production Facilities!!!

Maybe one day, Jagex will build a system, that blocks other programs from running whilst playing Runescape :P. Only way to stop colour bots.

From: BobboHobbo
Maybe one day, Jagex will build a system, that blocks other programs from running whilst playing Runescape :P. Only way to stop colour bots.

lol runescape will only be a browser java game not software

But raptor could kill us all :/

On a serious note, do not fret yet… Just wait and lets see what Jagex has in store.

I swear iBot was shut down years ago? :confused: :confused:

I beleive Ibot was shut down when they began having serious legal issues with jagex

Guys I am no legal guru BUT I believe if Jagex went after the site they could create a decent argument and Megaupload would be an angle in on that. It would not be as easy a case as Megaupload but it could theoretically be a case in that because the site HOUSES the scripts and therefore it is culpable in facilitating theft as members use the site to make gains into the game which some people convert into real life cash.

There are some really hard parts in there to nail down BUT it's an angle.

I believe some of the hard part is getting round the fact that the application does not interact with RS but smart lawyers can do amazing things in court. Throw into that having the wrong judge on the bench and it could make for an interesting ruling.

Anyways just saying lets not think we are TOO safe. They could change the way we operate. When Jagex gets enough of this cat and mouse game and is beaten too much they will resort to the next stage of the game.

Remember the saying desparate times calls for desparate measures. Maybe they don't have a real chance but maybe they play their card anyhow to see if they can bluff us.

Just thoughts. I could be wrong. Hell I could be far off but don't ever think YOU HAVE WON. That's when they get you.

^ Sounds legit. I cant say I know alot about law myself

That would be a very flimsy argument to stand up in a u.s. court. The thing with mega upload is that it was "taking money away" from the big businesses by having the movies and what not on their site which is a form of theft and is specifically illegal. There is nothing inherently illegal about using a color bot, the worst anyone here is doing is breaking jagex tos. It would be comparable for them to try to sue someone for impersonating a mod, it is against the tos but no law. They could try to make the case but they would have a hard time finding a smart lawyer willing to risk his reputation to do it, then again if the money was right probably not. I imagine if they ever did seek legal recourse they would soon find out they have no leg to stand on. There are no u.s. laws on the book that this break the worst they could do is ban any of us. I understand where you are coming at with mega upload but the difference is there was illegal products being hosted and downloaded from there. There is nothing illegal about the scripts on here.

Lets be honest though the only reason megaupload got shut down was because of the massive amount of lobbyists the music and movie industries have.

From: Demondog
Guys I am no legal guru BUT I believe if Jagex went after the site they could create a decent argument and Megaupload would be an angle in on that. It would not be as easy a case as Megaupload but it could theoretically be a case in that because the site HOUSES the scripts and therefore it is culpable in facilitating theft as members use the site to make gains into the game which some people convert into real life cash.

There are some really hard parts in there to nail down BUT it's an angle.

I believe some of the hard part is getting round the fact that the application does not interact with RS but smart lawyers can do amazing things in court. Throw into that having the wrong judge on the bench and it could make for an interesting ruling.

Anyways just saying lets not think we are TOO safe. They could change the way we operate. When Jagex gets enough of this cat and mouse game and is beaten too much they will resort to the next stage of the game.

Remember the saying desparate times calls for desparate measures. Maybe they don't have a real chance but maybe they play their card anyhow to see if they can bluff us.

Just thoughts. I could be wrong. Hell I could be far off but don't ever think YOU HAVE WON. That's when they get you.

But the thing is, simba is used on many different Programs. Simba could practically do your homework. The scripts may or may NOT be targeted towards runescape. There is really no way of getting under SRL's skin.

From: BobboHobbo
Maybe one day, Jagex will build a system, that blocks other programs from running whilst playing Runescape :P. Only way to stop colour bots.

1.Open runescape in virtualmachine
2.Open Simba in host Machine
3.Click crosshair in simba and target virtualmachine
It may need some work to make it regonize the runescape applet thought
:spongebob:

Regardless of what happens, simba will be around for NON rs related applications. In which any person could download and write their own scripts for it (much like how it is now, except there is no forum to have a "scripts" section)

No chance.

very intresting topic, colour bots would not be stopped tho, i been seeing more and more bots in runescape lately, they are filling up worlds at draynor etc. gf jagex

From: Demondog
Guys I am no legal guru BUT I believe if Jagex went after the site they could create a decent argument and Megaupload would be an angle in on that. It would not be as easy a case as Megaupload but it could theoretically be a case in that because the site HOUSES the scripts and therefore it is culpable in facilitating theft as members use the site to make gains into the game which some people convert into real life cash.

There are some really hard parts in there to nail down BUT it's an angle.

I believe some of the hard part is getting round the fact that the application does not interact with RS but smart lawyers can do amazing things in court. Throw into that having the wrong judge on the bench and it could make for an interesting ruling.

Anyways just saying lets not think we are TOO safe. They could change the way we operate. When Jagex gets enough of this cat and mouse game and is beaten too much they will resort to the next stage of the game.

Remember the saying desparate times calls for desparate measures. Maybe they don't have a real chance but maybe they play their card anyhow to see if they can bluff us.

Just thoughts. I could be wrong. Hell I could be far off but don't ever think YOU HAVE WON. That's when they get you.

i got to megaupload then stopped reading, didn't you hear the courts ruled the case in his favour and he recieved like all of his cash from megaupload back? lol

From: BobboHobbo
Maybe one day, Jagex will build a system, that blocks other programs from running whilst playing Runescape :P. Only way to stop colour bots.

That will piss people off. Not everyone understands how to run virtual machines like we do ;]

From: BobboHobbo
Maybe one day, Jagex will build a system, that blocks other programs from running whilst playing Runescape :P. Only way to stop colour bots.

Well than we shall develop SRL powered by a webclient :D

thread has been gravedug twice…

How was it gravedig when its continuous within 31 days? 0_0

On the side note, I am sure simba (and scar) will last far longer than runescape….

A gravedig is defined as posting in a thread which has not been posted in for at least three months. Stated on the rules thread

From: RISK
Here's a leaked photo I have of the future Runescape color-nuke they plan to release:

Giggle.

Haha good one ;)

seems like optimus got delayed by some decepticons on his way to earth :)

Wouldn't the best anti ban be talking, like leetz said once with having a programmed conversation based on databased bots. Its genius and almost human

From: P1nky
They can stop us by providing Runescape, on to FunORB ;)

That'd be evil!:p

From: Neros
i got to megaupload then stopped reading, didn't you hear the courts ruled the case in his favour and he recieved like all of his cash from megaupload back? lol

When did this happen? Last I heard all his stuff was seized.

From: Demondog
When did this happen? Last I heard all his stuff was seized.

happened not long ago, i heard it on the news, they fucked up and it turns out he was not at fault for what was being hosted on the servers or something, so they had to refund his assets because it was the uploaders infringing the copyrights, or so i believe, could look into it more

Honestly I don't think Jagex has the manpower or the money to fund a massive bot nuke again. These mini ones will not be effective in my opinion.

From: Carloy
Honestly I don't think Jagex has the manpower or the money to fund a massive bot nuke again. These mini ones will not be effective in my opinion.

Im sure they will invest in software into trying to detect bots but surely not using pure man power

From: risk
here's a leaked photo i have of the future runescape color-nuke they plan to release:

giggle.

lol

From: Carloy
Honestly I don't think Jagex has the manpower or the money to fund a massive bot nuke again. These mini ones will not be effective in my opinion.

From: RISK
Here's a leaked photo I have of the future Runescape color-nuke they plan to release:

Giggle.

I cracked up when i saw this

TIL RISK is funny!

GF more bots going down. Simba ftw!

Jagex can't do anything about it either; not only is it colour, it isn't a dedicated bot either. Just a language and client which CAN be used on the side to RS botting, what a coincidence!
Jagex would never go after every single scripter for every single script they write for RS botting. How would they even be able to prove who wrote any script?

From: wister1
seems like optimus got delayed by some decepticons on his way to earth :)

LMFAO, I have no idea why but I shat myself in laughter from this, brilliant lol

Simba is what im using, RS is what im abusing….

But really:


"In the next few weeks our websites, domains, code and customer details will be passed over to Jagex along with details of all those people who we know have developed scripts for iBOT and sold or re-sold those scripts."

I used iBot for a long time and they always said they would NEVER give out our details… Now they act like they sorry and appologise to Jagex, ass lickers… :duh:
They made a bot, they knew jagex could sue them, they knew the risk. So take it but dont appologise :confused:

From: Sin
Simba is not generically for Runescape, we simply choose to use it so ;)
As stated by Wizzup? :P

I'll forever live by this statement when it comes to Simba

I really don't understand why there picking on the colour community; since the reflection bots are creating new injection methods right as we speak, and reflection always turns out to be a bigger problem for JaGex.

From: lordvolt
you guys are laughing with this, but pb,epicbot,… did also laugh, thought they still aren't back.

Btw, pb is back

OT/
Jagex will never be able to block color bots from playing the game, if they do that, they will also be stopping people who don't use color bots from playing the game. Color bots LOOK at screen, recognise different color patterns, anaylse them to make sure they are correcly shaped and do something. Isn't that the same as what we humans do when we play runescape (although not as methodically as these bots do it)?

Anyways that being said, the only way to stop color bots will be via a lawsuit as they have done with iBOT. Although I can't start imagining their possible arguements