SRL Archive - Bot Information and Spottings

My question is:
Is there a dungeoneering bot available to use that works after the nuke anywhere? I know there's not one on the site so I figured Id ask. *U may move this if u must cuz not to sure if this is the proper section to post this in

No there's not, and there probably won't ever be (for the public). Search next time, there are hundreds of threads about this.

From: kevin33
My question is:
Is there a dungeoneering bot available to use that works after the nuke anywhere? I know there's not one on the site so I figured Id ask. *U may move this if u must cuz not to sure if this is the proper section to post this in

Impossible.. Colour is the only thing working right now.. Other than that.. Nothing.

From: Harry
No there's not, and there probably won't ever be (for the public). Search next time, there are hundreds of threads about this.

I did search and the thread I read was old and said yes. I figured I would ask to clarify as I cant ask on a month old or longer thread. Thank you for answering. Wish there was one I hate legit dung :P

Yes, infact there is.

From: ggzz
Impossible.. Colour is the only thing working right now.. Other than that.. Nothing.

Possible, or you yourself wouldn't know how to train Dungeoneering.

From: Flight
Possible, or you yourself wouldn't know how to train Dungeoneering.

U take things too literal.. It's impossible.. Colours will change every single day, hr, whatever.. It would be a script of over 10k lines just for a couple floors.. one colour change messes up the whole thing.. by the time you even get to write the code for the 2nd or third floor, the first would have changes so drastically..

Impractical and Impossible.. You'd forever be writing such a script. And would never get to release it since something will break constantly.
As for me know how to dung.. I'm human, I have logic and I learn.. Computers don't learn.. Artificial intelligence is still being developed but in the end still has to be developed by a human.

From: Flight
Possible, or you yourself wouldn't know how to train Dungeoneering.

Yeah, all we would need is the colour bot god to write it, he has a few broken scripts under his belt, he can handle it for sure. Ego is so big he still can't listen to the logical.

From: Fruit Bat
Yeah, all we would need is the colour bot god to write it, he has a few broken scripts under his belt, he can handle it for sure. Ego is so big he still can't listen to the logical.

Are you still mad that your java bots are gone, bud? Or is it because you still can't get any Simba scripts to work for you? Keep it up with the attitude and I'll personally be counting the minutes before you're banned…again.

From: Fruit Bat
Yeah, all we would need is the colour bot god to write it, he has a few broken scripts under his belt, he can handle it for sure. Ego is so big he still can't listen to the logical.

What the fuck is up with you? Clearly you don't care up be part of this awesome community which is a big mistake on your part because we have so many amazing things here.
Usually I'm lenient about being harsh but one more shit post from you and you're out of here. I might as well just ban you right now because I know you're prepubescent, sad, sorry ass, good for nothing, god complex, useless, ungrateful, unhelpful, ass will…. Do it.


@Kevin sorry about that normally I'm very nice!
There never has and in my opinion never will be a working dung script at this website. Very large task to tackle with color sorry!

If you are interested in a Dungeoneering party AFK'er I see that as very possible. I believe it's already been requested though.

Kiko has decided to give up on the botting community (I believe who you are referring to… From ShadowScripting). He remarked he had a great run at it and learned a lot, but feels it is time to move on. I was rather broken up over it… As I was a user from the first beta to the last release, gaining over 140m xp from the bot. I don't believe that there will be another Kiko in the world who wants to defy the impossible and create another Dungeoneering bot, especially based on color clients. For the moment, you're stuck with s/l or teams =/

Kiko made what script/bot?
And if another reflection or a new OGL bot was made, a dung script would also most likely be made for it to.
Not to put anyone down but you're praising him so highly I'm sure there are Many people capeable of making a dung bot…..

From: motokid64
Kiko has decided to give up on the botting community (I believe who you are referring to… From ShadowScripting). He remarked he had a great run at it and learned a lot, but feels it is time to move on. I was rather broken up over it… As I was a user from the first beta to the last release, gaining over 140m xp from the bot. I don't believe that there will be another Kiko in the world who wants to defy the impossible and create another Dungeoneering bot, especially based on color clients. For the moment, you're stuck with s/l or teams =/

Kiko wasn't the only person who made a dungeoneering bot. Paradigm from RSBuddy made a working one, but he made his free. There was also another member there who I can't remember the name of, he made one, and he, like us, kept it entirely open source.

I think it's unfair to rule out something like that, I think it's more than possible.

From: motokid64
Kiko has decided to give up on the botting community (I believe who you are referring to… From ShadowScripting). He remarked he had a great run at it and learned a lot, but feels it is time to move on. I was rather broken up over it… As I was a user from the first beta to the last release, gaining over 140m xp from the bot. I don't believe that there will be another Kiko in the world who wants to defy the impossible and create another Dungeoneering bot, especially based on color clients. For the moment, you're stuck with s/l or teams =/

if you believe he is all high-knowing and that there cannot be anyone as good as him, then you obviously haven't seen any of WT-Fakawi's scripts

~shut

Lol I'm still on the 1st floor, started 2 weeks ago. I have quiet a few rooms finished on that 1st floor however.
It's just so much work… sigh.

From: ggzz
U take things too literal.. It's impossible.. Colours will change every single day, hr, whatever.. It would be a script of over 10k lines just for a couple floors.. one colour change messes up the whole thing.. by the time you even get to write the code for the 2nd or third floor, the first would have changes so drastically..

Impractical and Impossible.. You'd forever be writing such a script. And would never get to release it since something will break constantly.
As for me know how to dung.. I'm human, I have logic and I learn.. Computers don't learn.. Artificial intelligence is still being developed but in the end still has to be developed by a human.

Humans are also developed by humans.

From: Richard
Kiko wasn't the only person who made a dungeoneering bot. Paradigm from RSBuddy made a working one, but he made his free. There was also another member there who I can't remember the name of, he made one, and he, like us, kept it entirely open source.

I think it's unfair to rule out something like that, I think it's more than possible.

He was constantly the one with the best script throughout though, from start to finish, it done more floors than anyone else's, it done highest complexity unlike most the others and it would run for days on end, that's tens of thousands of lines, running for days (of course there was no randoms, but the other dung scripts didn't run that long so obviously that's not a reason to take away from him).

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As far as making a dung bot here? Probably not going to happen.
Why? Is no one else as 'good' as teh mighteh kiko?
It's nothing to do with that. Kiko was good at it sure, he outdone his opponents in his category but he's not the only one person that could of done it.
So why can't it be done now? Cause of color?
Also no, if a human can do it, a color bot can. As for changing the colors every here and there, Kiko had that problem with obj and item ID's all the time. His script was updated like once every other day, the day he never updated it was because he was working on the update.

So now you should be able to see why it can't be done here. The amount of time it takes to even get the foundations of it working, then building it from there to a working model, then updating it daily from there. The only way someone can possibly dedicate that much time to something is if they were getting paid. People have other things to be doing in life than figuring out why the script isn't working, then making a fix, everyday. Seeing how this is a strictly 'scripts not for sale' open source community, not happening.

Only possible way it could happen is if it was a community project. Where everyone interested could do one of the jobs listed, such as collect colors for this, get a working smuggler function, etc… That way we could all take advantage of the open source aspect of this place instead of letting it hold one person back from making a dung script.



Those are my thoughts anyways.

From: YoHoJo
What the fuck is up with you? Clearly you don't care up be part of this awesome community which is a big mistake on your part because we have so many amazing things here.
Usually I'm lenient about being harsh but one more shit post from you and you're out of here. I might as well just ban you right now because I know you're prepubescent, sad, sorry ass, good for nothing, god complex, useless, ungrateful, unhelpful, ass will…. Do it.


@Kevin sorry about that normally I'm very nice!
There never has and in my opinion never will be a working dung script at this website. Very large task to tackle with color sorry!

Lol it's fine I know that your nice cuz your always helping + your a beast scripter so what you say goes. And thanks for answering. I didnt figure there was although I did hope cuz I hate legit dunging. My least favourite skill :P

This won't be done… in color anyway. It's a bigger project than ALL of MSI combined. And to be frankly honest, it'd be useless. The gains in game wouldn't be as useful as other gains, such as resource gathering…etc.

Thing is, the point is that it can be done in color. Would it take a long time to build it? Yeah, it would. It is just not worth it IMO.

Dungeoneering is the hardest script to code and whoever can make one for a color bot could code anything and should be saving the world instead of making bots…

I don't know why you guys seem to think its possible.. Before you can even complete 2 floors, the first floor would be almost entirely broken..

You think it's possible only because A: Someone else said it.. B: "Anything is possible as long as you can think of or do it".. C: You want to believe that colour is almighty and can do anything reflection can.. That's total bullshit. Colour cannot and will not do everything a reflection bot could have done. If Dtm's and Colours for TPA's have been getting broken almost every day for a lot of scripts.. You'd never even finish writing the first 2 floors without something being broken. You'd be running in circles fixing the first two floors. Not to mention that you'd actually have to write an algorithm for every single possibility for one floor alone.. You'd have to have every single door/item/object ON SCREEN.. Stop lying to yourselves.. it's impossible.

I would monitor the progress of OGL intercept over on mopar, it seems to be coming along nicely and will make something like a dung script significantly easier than using only colour.

ggzz, it is possible. However, it's not worth it. it would be well over 10k lines of code.

From: quazzymodem
I would monitor the progress of OGL intercept over on mopar, it seems to be coming along nicely and will make something like a dung script significantly easier than using only colour.

I would monitor Reflection, namely powerbot, because they are slowly but steadly getting towards fixing reflection. I mean we may be a few months away still but progress is at least being made.

As for Kiko being some kind of God, Timer (Yes that annoying choob) had a pretty good one started but like all his stuff never really gets on with the work, Andrew (the guy who made the big frost dragon killer for rsbuddy before arbi stole it) also was making one, both of them were quite developed as well! I am sure there are one or two or three people I have missed as well so I believe if reflection was to come back for the long term then one would be made as good or better than kiko's.

From: DarkCoder
I would monitor Reflection, namely powerbot, because they are slowly but steadly getting towards fixing reflection. I mean we may be a few months away still but progress is at least being made.

As for Kiko being some kind of God, Timer (Yes that annoying choob) had a pretty good one started but like all his stuff never really gets on with the work, Andrew (the guy who made the big frost dragon killer for rsbuddy before arbi stole it) also was making one, both of them were quite developed as well! I am sure there are one or two or three people I have missed as well so I believe if reflection was to come back for the long term then one would be made as good or better than kiko's.

But powerbot dont use reflection :redface:

Mate just play legitly for some days or try to code your own as im doing right now!

From: Kyle Undefined
ggzz, it is possible. However, it's not worth it. it would be well over 10k lines of code.

That's a lot of code it would take weeks to debug in addition to just the weeks of 24/7 coding.

I doubt it is possible to make a working colour dungeoneering bot.

Nothing is "Impossible" for color based scripts. The how of it may be different and harder than other ways that you may be used to, but it is definitely not impossible.

From: ggzz
I don't know why you guys seem to think its possible.. Before you can even complete 2 floors, the first floor would be almost entirely broken..

You think it's possible only because A: Someone else said it.. B: "Anything is possible as long as you can think of or do it".. C: You want to believe that colour is almighty and can do anything reflection can.. That's total bullshit. Colour cannot and will not do everything a reflection bot could have done. If Dtm's and Colours for TPA's have been getting broken almost every day for a lot of scripts.. You'd never even finish writing the first 2 floors without something being broken. You'd be running in circles fixing the first two floors. Not to mention that you'd actually have to write an algorithm for every single possibility for one floor alone.. You'd have to have every single door/item/object ON SCREEN.. Stop lying to yourselves.. it's impossible.

What do you mean by "The first 2 floors". You're saying that as if each floor is the same every time round. You seem to be coming at this from angle like "Go in dung, start floor 1, write a script to finish it, woot now I have floor 1 done".

Floor 1 would be different everytime so your simple minded approach is obviously going to be impossible. You need to think a bit more complex then maybe you'll see how it is possible, just not worth any 1 persons time doing it.

If you used iDungeon Pro you'll know that it could do a dungeon without even knowing what floor it was on. Think on it, don't worry, soon you'll be able to think on a higher level, don't be overwhelmed.

As I don't dung a whole lot, but I know each time you dung it randomly makes a room. Does it ever have the same layout? Even if it was way on into it?

Would it be possible to write a function to check the minimap for doors needing to be opened? Have an output created that would allow for compass based navigation? Have the script automatically recognize all doors in a room upon entry to make another output that could be used with the minimap?

From: nokkasiili
But powerbot dont use reflection :redface:

True :duh:

Using reflection:

Not me btw :P

From: DarkCoder
Using reflection:

Not me btw :P

/me is intrigued

~shut

….
Care to post source or any info about that picture/bot dude?
You know people are gonna swarm with questions. Neat!

Secret :)

(I will try and get it verified or some more information about the source first)

From: DarkCoder
Secret :)

(I will try and get it verified or some more information about the source first)

Doesn't seem like they are trying to be a secret with a public youtube channel and advertising….

http://www.youtube.com/user/GlowBotting/videos

From: YoHoJo
Doesn't seem like they are trying to be a secret with a public youtube channel and advertising….

http://www.youtube.com/user/GlowBotting/videos

Wrong glowbot mate :p
That channel belongs to: http://www.powerbot.org/community/user/14481-kristiaan-d/page__tab__topics who for all intents and purposes is a random person.

A link which you guys can see with the image:
http://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/617098-reasons-why-rsbot-should-ditch-reflectioninjection/page__st__140

What is confusing me is that "glowbotting" is a brand of Nex's scripts (whom i know and sometimes chat to) yet doesn't seem linked.

From: Borland
What do you mean by "The first 2 floors". You're saying that as if each floor is the same every time round. You seem to be coming at this from angle like "Go in dung, start floor 1, write a script to finish it, woot now I have floor 1 done".

Floor 1 would be different everytime so your simple minded approach is obviously going to be impossible. You need to think a bit more complex then maybe you'll see how it is possible, just not worth any 1 persons time doing it.

If you used iDungeon Pro you'll know that it could do a dungeon without even knowing what floor it was on. Think on it, don't worry, soon you'll be able to think on a higher level, don't be overwhelmed.

Your speaking as if you knew anything about scripting and english.

LOL your calling me simple minded when you can't even read that "You'd be running in circles fixing the first two floors. Not to mention that you'd actually have to write an algorithm for every single possibility for one floor alone" <— Go google translate that and tell me what it means. I need to think more complexed? An algorithm for every possibility isn't complex enough for your reflection abusing (Removed because I can't speak without cussing.) I even said colours would break so drastically before you even finish the 2nd floor.. No doubt I have faith in colour.. It's possible from the perspective that anything is possible.. but taking it there is a whole other story.. Doing it is impossible as there is no way to detect every object, every floor, every possibility, every NPC and fight back accordingly, etc..

Goodluck with that. A slayer script is most likely easier. Don't forget.. SPS won't work in dungeons as you don't have a map for everything.

I have an idung account for ur info.. and I cracked it and shared it all the time.. I guess you don't know it works. He had reflection which could detect stuff that isn't on screen allowing the bot to figure shit out as it goes along.. colour does not have that and would need to rotate the screen a hell of a lot AND have the objects on screen for it to be detected.

From: ggzz
Your speaking as if you knew anything about scripting and english.

LOL your calling me simple minded when you can't even read that "You'd be running in circles fixing the first two floors. Not to mention that you'd actually have to write an algorithm for every single possibility for one floor alone" <— Go google translate that and tell me what it means. I need to think more complexed? An algorithm for every possibility isn't complex enough for your reflection abusing (Removed because I can't speak without cussing.) I even said colours would break so drastically before you even finish the 2nd floor.. No doubt I have faith in colour.. It's possible from the perspective that anything is possible.. but taking it there is a whole other story.. Doing it is impossible as there is no way to detect every object, every floor, every possibility, every NPC and fight back accordingly, etc..

Goodluck with that. A slayer script is most likely easier. Don't forget.. SPS won't work in dungeons as you don't have a map for everything.

I have an idung account for ur info.. and I cracked it and shared it all the time.. I guess you don't know it works. He had reflection which could detect stuff that isn't on screen allowing the bot to figure shit out as it goes along.. colour does not have that and would need to rotate the screen a hell of a lot AND have the objects on screen for it to be detected.

Again with the first 2 floors thing. If writing this bot, the floor number has absolutely no significance at all, this is why I was and still am calling your approach to this simple. The only time the floor becomes of any slight relevance is for bosses, in which case there are 5 "floors" see if you can work them out. Even then it's not really important.

Yes, it would have to be turning the camera all the time, just like a human has to, don't know if you know this but humans don't use reflection, they use color. It only takes a minute to correct a color change, why would someone be there spending all day doing it? You could actually build the whole script without even knowing any of the colors, they could be collected & filled after and it'd work.

You being able to make the script = Impossible, but the script itself isn't.

From: Borland
Again with the first 2 floors thing. If writing this bot, the floor number has absolutely no significance at all, this is why I was and still am calling your approach to this simple. The only time the floor becomes of any slight relevance is for bosses, in which case there are 5 "floors" see if you can work them out. Even then it's not really important.

Yes, it would have to be turning the camera all the time, just like a human has to, don't know if you know this but humans don't use reflection, they use color. It only takes a minute to correct a color change, why would someone be there spending all day doing it? You could actually build the whole script without even knowing any of the colors, they could be collected & filled after and it'd work.

You being able to make the script = Impossible, but the script itself isn't.

LOL Ur so damn lucky Zytex gave me a warning for flaming u.. Go do it then if you can so "Dynamically get colors" Your seriously a joke. Takes only a minute.. I laugh at that behind my computer screen. 1 Minute x 10000+ lines.. you do the math. And you still havent figured out the relevance of "2 Floors" in that paragraph.. Let me break it down.. You complete your code for doing floor 1. When you start writing code for floor 2, your floor 1 will be broken. If your telling me that floors don't matter then ur an idiot. Every dungeoneering bot that has ever been made has all been built floor by floor. There is NO code for all floors.. You go sit with a pencil and paper and write an algorithm for every floor then for a colour bot.. Good luck.

From: ggzz
LOL Ur so damn lucky Zytex gave me a warning for flaming u.. Go do it then if you can so "Dynamically get colors" Your seriously a joke. Takes only a minute.. I laugh at that behind my computer screen. 1 Minute x 10000+ lines.. you do the math. And you still havent figured out the relevance of "2 Floors" in that paragraph.. Let me break it down.. You complete your code for doing floor 1. When you start writing code for floor 2, your floor 1 will be broken. If your telling me that floors don't matter then ur an idiot. Every dungeoneering bot that has ever been made has all been built floor by floor. There is NO code for all floors.. You go sit with a pencil and paper and write an algorithm for every floor then for a colour bot.. Good luck.

Lucky? Because otherwise your flaming (which is of such intense calibre) would have jumped out the screen and killed me, but luckily you got a previous warning which spared me my life, phew.

For a long while, if you started a floor, then ran iDung, it would find the floor type, such as occ, abn etc.. but for the floor: it would be "??". Yet it still managed to complete it fine. Either every leecher is correct and Kiko is infact god, or you're wrong.

Also not every line would be color dependant and not every color would break everyday. You're over exaggerating the task in a desperate attempt to be correct and if you learnt to read properly, instead of jumping at the chance to reply with ignorance, then you'd know why I wont "Go do it then".

Reply to this debate with a combination of knowledge and logic instead of spouting flame, you'll get less warnings and your opinions respected.

From: Borland
Lucky? Because otherwise your flaming (which is of such intense calibre) would have jumped out the screen and killed me, but luckily you got a previous warning which spared me my life, phew.

For a long while, if you started a floor, then ran iDung, it would find the floor type, such as occ, abn etc.. but for the floor: it would be "??". Yet it still managed to complete it fine. Either every leecher is correct and Kiko is infact god, or you're wrong.

Also not every line would be color dependant and not every color would break everyday. You're over exaggerating the task in a desperate attempt to be correct and if you learnt to read properly, instead of jumping at the chance to reply with ignorance, then you'd know why I wont "Go do it then".

Reply to this debate with a combination of knowledge and logic instead of spouting flame, you'll get less warnings and your opinions respected.

//butthurt

Me and a few friends in other site were talking about this and I kind of figured how to make it keep track of rooms and things, probably going to give one an attempt and make at least 15 floors, should be fun and I should learn a lot from it, my graahker doesn't need many more adjustments, so after it is finished, I'll finish my ZMI and proceed to working on a Dung bot.

For those out there saying it will be impossible, all you need is willpower and dedication.

Working Graahker made in a week. I don't even know how to read text with Simba, what either TPA or SPS are, yet I was able to code this. I am sure the more experience scripters in this site could do a great job at it if they trully wanted to put the work into it.

My script is 796 lines and works great, only needs optimization updates.

~Impossible is Nothing~

From: ggzz
If I cared for ur shitty respect, I'd have asked and I wouldn't have flamed you for ur stupidity. Not every line will be colour dependent? LOL.. Hahahaha. Write a script first then we'll talk on what will be colour and what won't. Hahaha.. not every colour would break every day.. You obviously haven't leeched the scripts from this community enough to know how often scripts break. I'd give you one day for your DTM to not be broken. I obviously know why you won't "Go do it then".. Because you clearly can't.. you yourself have not the slightest clue on how colour scripts work or else you won't speak such bs. This is not ur Rsbuddy or ur powerbot. Get with the program. Oh and by the way.. You still don't seem to know how Idungeon worked.. If you did, you'd have realized that if your already in a floor, the script would exit first then restart that floor.. WHY? Because it was dependent on the dungeoneering main screen.. It would read the interface during floor selection to determine what floor it was on and how to tackle it.. Good Fight your knowledge on shit you didn't write.. I speak from experience.. I've cracked every idung script on rscoders.. As for insulting my intelligence and trying to look smart cuz u feel hurt.. You'd know it's spelled "Learned, Caliber, Dependent".. Kiko is not GOD.. He used reflection which made his life easier. You just think he's God cuz u know shit all.

I never said he was god, I gave you two options. Either he was god or you was wrong. I believed in the latter. Cracking the script doesn't mean you knew how it worked. Any idiot could of watched one of Contra's tuts on it and learnt to crack it.

Btw,
Learnt: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/learnt
Calibre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calibre - "In guns including firearms, caliber or calibre"
Dependant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependant - "A dependant (British English) or dependent (American or British English)"

After that I doubt anyone respects anything you type.

From: motokid64
Kiko has decided to give up on the botting community

False.

Anyways, you guys are forgotten Paradigm, who for a short time had ProDungeon. Script got me 1-88 dungeoneering rather flawlessly before Paradigm stopped maintaining it, and lost the rights to his Pro series.

From: Borland
I never said he was god, I gave you two options. Either he was god or you was wrong. I believed in the latter. Cracking the script doesn't mean you knew how it worked. Any idiot could of watched one of Contra's tuts on it and learnt to crack it.

Btw,
Learnt: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/learnt
Calibre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calibre - "In guns including firearms, caliber or calibre"
Dependant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependant - "A dependant (British English) or dependent (American or British English)"

After that I doubt anyone respects anything you type.

Hahaha u seem to think I'm one of those few who care about your respect or anyone's.. I've said it before.. I don't care for your respect.. I don't know you.. If I wanted respect from anyone, I'd have applied for members.. See how long I've been here.. I Come here solely to script and give things the community may or may not have already. I come here to learn. As for cracking stuff.. Yes you do need to know how it works. "Could have" watched his tuts.. maybe so.. maybe not. You believe the latter.. so you believe Kiko is God.. and I believe ur a retard.. What now? Like I said.. Go write it.. if you can't even write a simple colour script and u don't know how it works.. then don't even bother replying because I'm not gunna read any more of ur crap. As far as I know, you know nothing of how IDungeon worked and you know nothing of how colour operates. Randoms already give much trouble and they're small enough.. those scriptwriters are the best we have.. Yeah now you wanna tell me a dung script can be written and not broken drastically in every way.. LOL.

From: ggzz
Hahaha u seem to think I'm one of those few who care about your respect or anyone's.. I've said it before.. I don't care for your respect.. I don't know you.. If I wanted respect from anyone, I'd have applied for members.. See how long I've been here.. I Come here solely to script and give things the community may or may not have already. I come here to learn. As for cracking stuff.. Yes you do need to know how it works. "Could have" watched his tuts.. maybe so.. maybe not. You believe the latter.. so you believe Kiko is God.. and I believe ur a retard.. What now? Like I said.. Go write it.. if you can't even write a simple colour script and u don't know how it works.. then don't even bother replying because I'm not gunna read any more of ur crap. As far as I know, you know nothing of how IDungeon worked and you know nothing of how colour operates. Randoms already give much trouble and they're small enough.. those scriptwriters are the best we have.. Yeah now you wanna tell me a dung script can be written and not broken drastically in every way.. LOL.

I've already posted a color script here and I've written 3 more scripts since which I'll release once I'm done with them. Skimmed through your created threads, didn't find any of your scripts, just a bunch of threads in the various help sections (nothing wrong with that, don't feel bad now).

Obviously you do care what people think of what you say, you wouldn't have posted your "it's impossible" opinion otherwise cause who cares right?
If you remember back before iDung & other simpler dung bots, people saying it was impossible to write one were ten a penny.

Also "Either kiko was god or you was wrong." the latter is "you was wrong". Despite your horrid use of English you still attempt to highlight my 'mistakes' even though they actually aren't, all the while you still carry on with delights such as "cuz u" and let's not forget "ur". Also a full stop is one dot, like so "." and an ellipsis is three dots, like so "…", what do your constant two dots represent?

Anyway, I'll leave it here. Next time I see you will probably be on the first dung script thread when your begging to be a beta tester.

Peace.

From: Borland
I've already posted a color script here and I've written 3 more scripts since which I'll release once I'm done with them. Skimmed through your created threads, didn't find any of your scripts, just a bunch of threads in the various help sections (nothing wrong with that, don't feel bad now).

Obviously you do care what people think of what you say, you wouldn't have posted your "it's impossible" opinion otherwise cause who cares right?
If you remember back before iDung & other simpler dung bots, people saying it was impossible to write one were ten a penny.

Also "Either kiko was god or you was wrong." the latter is "you was wrong". Despite your horrid use of English you still attempt to highlight my 'mistakes' even though they actually aren't, all the while you still carry on with delights such as "cuz u" and let's not forget "ur". Also a full stop is one dot, like so "." and an ellipsis is three dots, like so "…", what do your constant two dots represent?

Anyway, I'll leave it here. Next time I see you will probably be on the first dung script thread when your begging to be a beta tester.

Peace.

Excuse you.. but I've written a fully working Fungus bot that ran hours on end and worked in any house despite the setup (Probably broken now), I've written multiple plugins in various languages, many different things around RS. I've written the only grenwall script that used colour and reflection in combination to trap them. I don't see you with any scripts that aid scriptwriters such as downloading bitmaps and creating masks on the fly for them GIVEN the ID of the item in colour only.. I don't see you with any Encryption for user passwords and usernames that haven't been broken yet. I don't see you with a blood rune crafter, DTM's that haven't been broken in days. I've tested so many scripts I'm total level 2428.. I've written the first plugin that allowed chat to go through to smart when it never worked. So before you call me out on scripting, programming, anything, check me again. With that much shit I'd have applied for members already.. I give my opinion on threads I find interesting regardless. You don't like it then thats kinda too bad. You think I care for respect? You might wanna check my views on gay marriage and see how many thumbs down I have for that.

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Ggzz, you've been here since Feb, and he's been here since Dec. you honestly need to calm your attitude. It seems like whenever you disagree with what someone says, you start a useless flame war.

As for all your contributions, yea, it's great that you're doing stuff. However, using it in a way to talk down on newer members is not the way it should be used.

Just to be transparent, I could infract you for three more of your posts in this thread. I'm tired of your attitude. However, since Zyt3x already gave you a warning for your language, I'm only going to infract you for your aggression toward another member. It was not warranted and not needed.

Oh, and just so you know, a color dung bot is possible, and there are some in the works. It's not as complicated as you say it is, but it will be a huge script. Harry had one of the best color scripts here, it was for fight caves, and it was epic. A lot of people said it was impossible.

Watch your attitude.

From: Kyle Undefined
Ggzz, you've been here since Feb, and he's been here since Dec. you honestly need to calm your attitude. It seems like whenever you disagree with what someone says, you start a useless flame war.

As for all your contributions, yea, it's great that you're doing stuff. However, using it in a way to talk down on newer members is not the way it should be used.

Just to be transparent, I could infract you for three more of your posts in this thread. I'm tired of your attitude. However, since Zyt3x already gave you a warning for your language, I'm only going to infract you for your aggression toward another member. It was not warranted and not needed.

Oh, and just so you know, a color dung bot is possible, and there are some in the works. It's not as complicated as you say it is, but it will be a huge script. Harry had one of the best color scripts here, it was for fight caves, and it was epic. A lot of people said it was impossible.

Watch your attitude.

Thank you for stopping the war on my thread :) did not create it for that reason so I am happy someone with authority said something. GGZZ u need to chill bro. Someone might as well close the thread to stop all this dumb pointless fighting.

From: Kyle Undefined
Ggzz, you've been here since Feb, and he's been here since Dec. you honestly need to calm your attitude. It seems like whenever you disagree with what someone says, you start a useless flame war.

As for all your contributions, yea, it's great that you're doing stuff. However, using it in a way to talk down on newer members is not the way it should be used.

Just to be transparent, I could infract you for three more of your posts in this thread. I'm tired of your attitude. However, since Zyt3x already gave you a warning for your language, I'm only going to infract you for your aggression toward another member. It was not warranted and not needed.

Oh, and just so you know, a color dung bot is possible, and there are some in the works. It's not as complicated as you say it is, but it will be a huge script. Harry had one of the best color scripts here, it was for fight caves, and it was epic. A lot of people said it was impossible.

Watch your attitude.

Honestly.. Just go ahead and infract me.. seriously. I already got enough of those for stupid shit that I didn't even start. Just because he is new doesn't give him the right to call me stupid in the first fuckin place.. He doesn't like my opinion then ignore it like everyone else.. He didn't know what he was getting into and it's his fault.. I honestly give two shits about who says what. You wants to talk big then fine handle it yourself. But when other ppl have to step in like the mods then thats fine to.. do you job. You can even ban me for all I care.. Someone wants to call me stupid for saying its impossible and then can't handle me calling them stupid back.. Someone wants to call me out on scripting n shit n then can't handle me replying back.. then go ahead and do your job and infract me. I'll honestly always reply back to someone calling me dumb for an opinion. And now I just gave you a reason to do your job.

All he said was that your idea that it wasn't possible was wrong. You flew off the handle. So why does he have to ignore your opinion, yet you can't ignore his? It works both ways.

I didn't infract you for calling him out, it was because you attacked him. Big difference.

From: Kyle Undefined
All he said was that your idea that it wasn't possible was wrong. You flew off the handle. So why does he have to ignore your opinion, yet you can't ignore his? It works both ways.

I didn't infract you for calling him out, it was because you attacked him. Big difference.

Big difference? Actually he said I was outright stupid.. Telling me that I cannot think on his level is ridiculous because I said it's impossible.. Of course I'm going to fly off the handle when you insult my intelligence and don't know any better. Doesn't make his opinion better than mine.. Nor does it give him the right to talk down to me as if he's on some ape steroids or some shit.. Tbh.. I don't even download shit from srl all I do is bug test n help out so another infraction won't hurt too bad especially that permanent one you gave me. As for another infraction.. I'm ready when the next person is because the BBQ pit isn't enough. Want to call me out, do it there.. Want to turn my opinions down do it there.. want to talk down to me.. PM me.. Otherwise I'm definitely going to reply regardless of what mod decides to ban or infract me.

When I was new, I knew my place.. I never talked down to you or anyone.. Only script I ever used for the sake of myself was tom's cooker.. Still never talked down to anyone.. Just because he wrote one script and think's he's the shit and knows how everything works doesn't mean he can degrade me and then get himself caught in shit.

Why are you so hostile? If you don't like people giving their opinions, then get off the Internet, since that's what people do.

You say you don't care what people think about you, but as soon as someone else says anything that goes against you, you blow up. You can call people out without attacking, it's not that hard.

People are going to make you upset, however, it's up to you how you handle it.

From: Kyle Undefined
Why are you so hostile? If you don't like people giving their opinions, then get off the Internet, since that's what people do.

You say you don't care what people think about you, but as soon as someone else says anything that goes against you, you blow up. You can call people out without attacking, it's not that hard.

People are going to make you upset, however, it's up to you how you handle it.

No.. I'm not being hostile.. But when his opinion involves talking shit about me then yes I'm going to respond. I'm going to defend my own opinion of course that's only natural. He can comment on it like the many other ppl who have told me why they think it's possible. And I simple responded I still don't see why.. But when you come here saying that my opinion is stupid because I cannot think on ur level, then we're gunna have a nice internet fight. I don't call ppl out without attacking why? Because I don't call them out at all.. I haven't even called this guy out until he called me out saying that I'm of lower intelligence than him. That's not even calling out my opinion.. thats a head on attack. I'm not going to even argue with you about this. Your clearly picking up for him and that's fine and all because he is new.. But I can care less if he's new.. If no one is going to infract him as well then whatever. As far as I see it, the other guys who said it's possible, I haven't said anything to I just simply asked why. But call me dumb and your going to have a reply you don't like either. Simple as that.

Wow…this post was extremely fun to read…lol…and btw…its not impossible to make a dungbot…who ever says its impossible hasn't really talked to the dev team here..lol…

From: hamster31
Wow…this post was extremely fun to read…lol…and btw…its not impossible to make a dungbot…who ever says its impossible hasn't really talked to the dev team here..lol…

I agree. I made this thread asking a simple question, and now it has become entertaining. :)

Borland I really must say, your comments are rediculous. ggzz is one of the best script writers I have ever met, and insulting his intelligence simple just makes you look dumb. You gave him an ultimatum about either he was stupid or kikio was god. If kikio was god, then he would have found a way to prevent his script from being cracked, and ggzz was the first to crack it, and how do i know he did it? Oh I used that script till I got banned and reset on runescape so don't give me shit that ggzz is stupid. Additionally, I can tell he can read alot better then you can, as he posts proper remarks to what you have stated, he don't skip facts and understands math enough to know that the algorithum for making that bot would be massive. Also you have not promoted any facts as to why you think it is possible. You state " I can't make the bot, all I know is the people alot smarter then I am can make it" and that simply isn't enough proof of concept. Simply because you have written a few scripts doesn't mean you are god, I can tell you are another one on this site with a massive ego, and its sicking. ggzz is humble enough to know he can script and don't need all these fancy acolades to prove it. If he wanted member, he would be member, and with high honours, I know that for a fact.

Now, for these two quotes.

From: YoHoJo
What the (Removed because I can't properly talk without cussing) is up with you? Clearly you don't care up be part of this awesome community which is a big mistake on your part because we have so many amazing things here.
Usually I'm lenient about being harsh but one more (Removed because I can't properly talk without cussing) post from you and you're out of here. I might as well just ban you right now because I know you're prepubescent, sad, sorry ass, good for nothing, god complex, useless, ungrateful, unhelpful, (Removed because I can't properly talk without cussing) will…. Do it.

From: Kyle Undefined
Ggzz, you've been here since Feb, and he's been here since Dec. you honestly need to calm your attitude. It seems like whenever you disagree with what someone says, you start a useless flame war.

As for all your contributions, yea, it's great that you're doing stuff. However, using it in a way to talk down on newer members is not the way it should be used.

Just to be transparent, I could infract you for three more of your posts in this thread. I'm tired of your attitude. However, since Zyt3x already gave you a warning for your language, I'm only going to infract you for your aggression toward another member. It was not warranted and not needed.

Oh, and just so you know, a color dung bot is possible, and there are some in the works. It's not as complicated as you say it is, but it will be a huge script. Harry had one of the best color scripts here, it was for fight caves, and it was epic. A lot of people said it was impossible.

Watch your attitude.

Seems to me you people are quick to slap down some bans and infractions, but yet you make them yourself against other members. You say you support then new members but thats total (Removed because I can't properly talk without cussing) tbh. If you give out infractions for attacking members, then maybe yohojo should take a couple days out of the fourms for calling me prepubesent, sad, stupid and weak minded. Isn't all that the same stuff that ggzz said to that fruit borland and borland gave back and started? Yeah I think so, I think its time you guys read over the rules and stop abusing them and your power, because that is total (Removed because I can't properly talk without cussing).

Edit: I'm probley going to get banned for speaking my mind, seems to me the fourm powers hate people that are intellegent.

LOL^ Watch it.. you might get an infraction for that..

From: ggzz
LOL^ Watch it.. you might get an infraction for that..

Good, I can use em forsure, they are badges of speaking up against the (Removed because I can't properly talk without cussing).

Everyone who wishes to continue in this debate and argument, start posting about it here now:
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=871868#post871868

An argument was happening on this thread
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69866
It's derailing the thread, continue it here.

Back on topic everyone else.

From: YoHoJo
Everyone who wishes to continue in this debate and argument, start posting about it here now:
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=871868#post871868


Back on topic everyone else.

Yah this is(Removed because I can't properly talk without cussing), don't go there to post continue here we arn't fighting we are just setting mods and people who are ignorant in their place.

From: Fruit Bat
Yah this is (Removed because I can't properly talk without cussing), don't go there to post continue here we arn't fighting we are just setting mods and people who are ignorant in their place.

This thread is about the possibility of a dungeoneering bot being made.
It is completed derailed with the last few posts and has nothing to do with that now.
I'm in my place where I belong, I'm maintaining peace, I just want this thread to continue to be what it was intended for, and just scooting the argument somewhere else. Please post in the other thread, I am in no way censoring you or anyone else, just politely asking you all to continue it in a different thread.

Yohojo why am I not allowed to post my opinion, which is:

DUNGEONEERING BOTS ARE IMPOSSIBLE WITH COLOUR.

Fruitbat I've removed cuss words from almost all your post. If you can't make a post without cussing then don't make the post. That goes for everyone… Please refrain from cussing or I will infract you consider that my warning and you can ask around I don't really give infractions. [/WARNING]

It's fine that you give your opinion people here like it better when you support your opinion with actual facts and valid arguments. If all you say it they are impossible over and over then it will turn into spam as it's not contributing anything to the discussion. The fact that a color dung bot is possible is undeniable. You can do dung a color bot can do dung. Problem is that nobady really has the patience to make one because of how big a pain it would be.

Ban all responsible for any ASFD in this thread as an example that this ASDF will not be tollerated.

From: quazzymodem
Ban all responsible for any ASDF in this thread as an example that this ASDF will not be tollerated.

Nothing bannable was said.
Stay on topic now please.
This thread has enough inappropriate words as it is, edited your post.

From: BraK
Fruitbat I've removed cuss words from almost all your post. If you can't make a post without cussing then don't make the post. That goes for everyone… Please refrain from cussing or I will infract you consider that my warning and you can ask around I don't really give infractions. [/WARNING]

It's fine that you give your opinion people here like it better when you support your opinion with actual facts and valid arguments. If all you say it they are impossible over and over then it will turn into spam as it's not contributing anything to the discussion. The fact that a color dung bot is possible is undeniable. You can do dung a color bot can do dung. Problem is that nobady really has the patience to make one because of how big a pain it would be.

Your mods use cuss words, you can see that in my quotes. I try not to cuss but its pretty hard not to when a MOD can do it and get away with it. Equality is equality, If we are all abiding by the same rules then we should all get warnings on the same plane. I see your warning is to all which is good, but I think you should remind mods that it is especially important to refrain from cussing because they repersent you as a whole.

Now back to topic, HAHA.

All that is needed is an algorithm to find the doors. And that will work on any floor/complexity. It would still be a HUGE undertaking to make it though. But you wouldn't build it floor by floor.

He warned me about it, thanks Brak sorry I was out of line.

It is very VERY VERY rare that I ever insult others. In fact as of recently almost all of my posts have been nothing but help to new users.

You, FuritBat also should listen to warnings given to you about insulting other members, rules apply to all.

Seriously people?! Stop with this flaming!
So immature and so not needed on this forum!

I am THIS close to closing this thread, and giving all of you who has been flaming an infraction for insulting other members (A couple of you would be temporarily suspended for that!), so watch it from now on!

I am NOT in the mood for this.

So, en resumé : it is possible but requires insane amounts of work ?

Sorry but I don't know anything about dungeoneering..

From: Dervish
So, en resumé : it is possible but requires insane amounts of work ?

Sorry but I don't know anything about dungeoneering..

Yeap, pretty much hit it on the head there. Even with Reflection a dung botted was a ton of work.

This is offensive about advertising a website sorry, but there's an alpha release of a bot coming up made by kiko among others.
Who's kiko? He made you experience a good dung bot that made you want to know if there's a dung bot around.

Wow, this is all kind of silly…

well actualy if you guys didnt know idun is in the work to com back in jan under jbot

A dungeoneering bot is possible with color. Just not one that can do larges and get good XP rates.

I feel that c1 smalls are perfectly possible, and since you're botting, hey who really cares about xp rates.

What we need is to improve object detection beyond just TPAs. We need to start looking at shapes. I know this is possible with color; some researchers at my university specialize in IRL object recognition and learning from only camera input. The question is to what extent is it possible with Simba/SRL/pascal