SRL Archive - Senior Discussions and Debates

As we all know, since the Bot Nuke by Jagex, people have been coming here looking for a way to bot Runescape. I'm glad to see so much activity here, and yes, it does get annoying when people post multiple threads about the same issue.

I've never supported gold farming, and I know as a whole (the community), we all agree (or so I hope). I've noticed that since Bot Nuke, the attitude towards gold farming has gotten stronger, as in, really trying to keep gold farmers away.

I see a lot of good script requests for money making, and I assume that is mostly due from gold farmers. I've seen some Members take on some of these ideas, and say they will release to Members+. Even though I agree with their decision, is it right to leave them out of their own idea? Shouldn't the script writer make a public version so the requester can at least get something? I feel that it's right, but maybe I'm just being too nice.

I do like what Flight does with this scripts, Members+ version has all the bells and whistles, and the public version has some parts missing. The public users are free to edit the script to their own needs, yet aren't allowed to redistribute it. That's one thing that should be watched closely, I believe.

I think that moving forward with this model would be the best thing, as it has the potential to keep us "blending in" and not coming into more light than we already are. The more we poke the bear, the more likely the chance of it attacking.

I know you can't make everyone happy, and we will always have angry leechers like this:

From: awesomem8
It got moved to members to encourage people to leave this site as soon as a normal bot site re-opens.

Thoughts?

That kid is an idiot. He will get over himself.

We leave the decisions up to the scripters for a reason. Its their intellectual property, they can share (or not :() with whomever they please.

I do agree, there should at least be a lesser version given to the original requester. There is definitely no reason to say one should have to though.

I like the Pro and Lite versions of script. I don't think the script 'requesters' should automatically have the right receive a copy of a premium script after it's been made. If the script has a lot of potential it'll surely be abused by the public sections, and even if the script is given only to the person who requested it, what's to stop them from releasing / passing it out to everyone else? A ban here at SRL, I'm sure, but given their rank of just registered user, I doubt they'll care about that.

From: Kyle Undefined
Even though I agree with their decision, is it right to leave them out of their own idea? Shouldn't the script writer make a public version so the requester can at least get something? I feel that it's right, but maybe I'm just being too nice.

If the idea really is new, then yea it's not cool to write it and let members+ only use it.

I really think we should have more scripts behinds members, such as Narcles smelter.
It is ofcourse the writers choice, I see no point in making a rule like "no banking scripts below Members+", because it would heavily violate freedom here.

I will write a truly AIO Fighter when I get SPS 2.0 pushed out, and only give Members+ the banking possibility. I've been also thinking, when you call GetPage() on these forums when you're logged in, does it result the actual logged-in-page or just the logged-out-page? If it does load the logged-in-page, I could try to find the text "SRL Members Forum - Only Members have access to this Section…" and if it's found, he's a member and can run the full script, in case the members+ version gets leaked. A leecher would not be able to bypass this.

Yeah, my main concern is about stopping gold farmers, as that can come back to us if they get sued. I remember when I joined SRL, there were no banking scripts under JR, or something like that.

To me, a lot of these ideas are new since I'm still trying to catch up on all the new stuff since I went MIA two years ago.

That sounds like an interesting idea actually.

From: Kyle Undefined
Yeah, my main concern is about stopping gold farmers, as that can come back to us if they get sued. I remember when I joined SRL, there were no banking scripts under JR, or something like that.

To me, a lot of these ideas are new since I'm still trying to catch up on all the new stuff since I went MIA two years ago.

That sounds like an interesting idea actually.

Personally, I dislike the new system. The old had free for all scripts, where anybody could post and use, with the exception of banking scripts. You had to then post at least 10 posts (iirc?) and wait a week to become a junior member where you had access to the much better scripts. Within this time, it allowed the individual to familiarise themselves with the community and its rules.

From: marpis
I've been also thinking, when you call GetPage() on these forums when you're logged in, does it result the actual logged-in-page or just the logged-out-page?

No it does not, since Simba does not manage nor can access the cookies/session stored by your browser.

EDIT: To answer your question, it would act as if you weren't logged in at all.

From: Daniel

No it does not, since Simba does not manage nor can access the cookies/session stored by your browser.

EDIT: To answer your question, it would act as if you weren't logged in at all.

I think you're right about that. I had a version checker on a script I kept Members only and it used a forum page to check for the current version. It never seemed to work, but worked just fine on my other public scripts that checked public posts.