Featuring Rep. Ron Paul and Rep. Justin Amash
In what can only be considered a tragic irony, the U.S. Senate passed out of the final conference committee the controversial National Defense Authorization Act of 2012, coinciding with the 220th Anniversary of the ratification of the Bill of Rights. Section 1031 of the National Defense Authorization Act otherwise known as the NDAA, provides broad authority for the federal government to use the military in domestic operations in order to detain Americans indefinitely and without trial. Such a move not only whitewashes the natural rights of Americans, whereby even publicly criticizing the federal government can now rise to the purposefully vague definition of a "belligerent act", it also sits in direct violation of "Posse Comitatus" an 1878 law forbidding use of the military at home and against Americans. With the bill now clearing both House and Senate conference committees as of this yesterday, the only hope at this point to halt the legislation from becoming law is for Patriotic Americans to flood the White House with telephone calls, emails, and faxes demanding this President not sign the bill into law. Please melt the White House Switchboard and comment line right now. Comments: 202-456-1111 Switchboard: 202-456-1414
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwedx6kZhHgSource:
http://rtr.org/videos/2/36349/federal-government-takes-final-sI guess I'll stock up on pirated material before this bill is passed. I'm not going to risk being tortured for doing something illegal.
Nietszche
2011-12-20 08:14:15
Obama Vetoed it. But not because it's unconstitutional, because it is because prisoners taken in another country are protected under Geneva Convention.
Maybe this whole thing was set up so that Obama would stay in office for being a "Hero"? It will eventually rear its ugly head again and when it does, I'm not sure what will happen.
From: Nietszche
Obama Vetoed it. But not because it's unconstitutional, because it is because prisoners taken in another country are protected under Geneva Convention.
Nietszche
2011-12-20 08:20:13
The whole act itself though is pretty scary. I mean I'm not sure if this would happen, but the document does give the ABILITY to the government to throw you in jail without question for simply protesting a law. I'm not saying that would happen but it gives them the ability to.
Nava2
2011-12-20 10:13:42
I know this is spammy, but one more huge reason I'm glad to be Canadian.
grats
2011-12-20 10:23:16
Sounds like something to make obama a hero, I agree.. It's crazy to think these guys people vote for hate the people so much
From: Nava2
I know this is spammy, but one more huge reason I'm glad to be Canadian.
one more reason I might move up there.. I wish your internet wasn't so bad there
@ The two above me: I'm actually contemplating moving to Canada with my girlfriend when I turn the ripe old age of eighteen.
grats
2011-12-20 10:55:30
From: RISK
@ The two above me: I'm actually contemplating moving to Canada with my girlfriend when I turn the ripe old age of eighteen.
yea might as well, there's too much that goes on here for people that want to just live their life and hangout.. etc
Kyle Undefined
2011-12-20 11:27:50
I'm moving to Germany, this is getting ridiculous.
Dervish
2011-12-20 13:41:51
The reactions in this thread are exemplar of the consequence of such a law : people won't stop doing what they do, they do it elsewhere, where they aren't affected by it.
If everyone who pirates(verb ?) movies, software or other material on the net does like you guys, I believe the United States of America will soon fall.
edit : oh and also, NDAA and the like are ridiculous ideas.
shstiger2009
2011-12-20 13:53:19
From: Nietszche
The whole act itself though is pretty scary. I mean I'm not sure if this would happen, but the document does give the ABILITY to the government to throw you in jail without question for simply protesting a law. I'm not saying that would happen but it gives them the ability to.
Wouldn't this be unconstitutional, that takes away your freedom of speech. There's no way that will happen.
That is exactly what the American government wants to do.
From: shstiger2009
Wouldn't this be unconstitutional, that takes away your freedom of speech. There's no way that will happen.
shstiger2009
2011-12-20 14:23:11
From: RISK
That is exactly what the American government wants to do.
But even if that is true, I just can't see it happening. From what I see, when things like this arise, it always goes back to "Blah blah… that's not what this country was founded on" and they don't get any further. I definitely could be wrong, but from personal experience that is what I've seen multiple times.
Runaway
2011-12-20 14:27:08
From: shstiger2009
But even if that is true, I just can't see it happening. From what I see, when things like this arise, it always goes back to "Blah blah… that's not what this country was founded on" and they don't get any further. I definitely could be wrong, but from personal experience that is what I've seen multiple times.
It doesn't go back to anything in this case, the bill was already passed with an astounding 93-7 vote.
The government is trying to subdue the uprising that is beginning to happen all over the country. Those in power will do whatever it takes to stay in power, and the US government is no exception.