SRL Archive - Bot Information and Spottings

E: The market is too crazy right now,
TLDR: Buy your shit as low as you can, sell as high as you can.
Be patient and don't buy sell at the prices they instantly go at, you can make a lot better profit if you wait it out and see the lowest/highest ones.
I'm making 600k+ profit from steel bars.


Although superheating is amazing profit and xp if we keep buying our materials at higher than mid prices/crazy high prices we are lowering our max procit by driving up the prices of our matierals.

Let's use this thread to post the lowest prices we are buying our stuff at.
Remember be patient and wait a bit with lower offers, it may take longer to get, but by buying higher you are screwing your profit and everyone else.

If we keep martial prices low, and bar prices high we can all (Superheaters) be happier!


Coal:
[INDENT]Mid:213
Buy: I've found coal buying at 215 is easy and doesn't take too long![/INDENT]

Iron Ore:
[INDENT]Mid: 238 (and it's been rising like CRAZY!)
Buy: I USED to buy at 270 (Jesus!) but I've found that with patience it comes in just fine at 255.
[/INDENT]

Nature Rune:
[INDENT]Mid: 228
Buy: I buy at 240 each, and with more patience I'm sure you can try for even lower than that.[/INDENT]

I've sold steel bars (bulk) as high as : 1255 so shoot for that!

So everyone start being PATIENT and finding the lowest prices we can buy at to stop prices for raw materials to go up so much :D!


Posts your findings, and talk about other ores too if you wish!

ok i just sold 15k iron ore and it sold for 285gp ea =/

From: trials6112
ok i just sold 15k iron ore and it sold for 285gp ea =/

If you're selling raw materials you would want the OPPOSITE of what I am saying in this thread :p!
If you got/botted 15k iron ore and sold for 285ea then that is GREAT NEWS for you! :D Just bad for steel bar makers!

The bar prices for steel were going up accordingly but now they evened out and have been loosing profit, but addy bars are still going up as much as the addy ore and nats are increasing, partly because i think im a huge supplier of those and have been selling them at what ever price comes up by clicking +15% twice lol

This discussion has been had before, RS loosely approximates a free market so prices are always dictated mostly by supply and demand.

Meaning that even if you collude with the other botters here, you will never be able to totally control the price.

From: legoace
This discussion has been had before, RS loosely approximates a free market so prices are always dictated mostly by supply and demand.

Meaning that even if you collude with the other botters here, you will never be able to totally control the price.

Yeah I know we cant TOALLY control the price, but I assume since we bot we account for quite a bit of superheating done, and us buying at lower prices helps us more than buying at higher, no way to sell how big of an impact we're making buy why buy higher than we need to.

@Quazz: Steel bars are still good profit, I assume one of the best profits since you can makemore bars per inventory compared to the other ores. I'm currently making 265 profit each bar and ~454,887 Gp/Hr

Updated steel bar price to 1240!

I'm not botting purely profit, the reason i switched to addy is for the extra smithing xp (dont really need the mage xp lol) but I have been making a great profit that depending on my buy and sell prices has been a bit more per hour than all those steel bars getting to 70 lol

Am I right that steel bars give more smith xp/ph than addy bars?

I think the xp/ph is better, but if you are going for both profitability than i would suggest Addy bars. ts not that much less.

Well I'm getting just over 100k xp/ph and around 510k gp/ph on steels bars

I think max mage xp/ph is around 140k for steel bars I'm gonna do my best to reach that on my next release

I've putted a link in my superheater thread so people can see this :).

From: CRU1Z1N
Am I right that steel bars give more smith xp/ph than addy bars?

no they dont. the smithing xp goes up if you smith a bar of higher lvl, and the mage xp drops.

From: KingKong
no they dont. the smithing xp goes up if you smith a bar of higher lvl, and the mage xp drops.

Yeah but keep in mind, steel bars (or any lower level bars) require less coal, therefore you can smelt more per inventory. So I think steel bars will always be the most xp/hr. As for gp, it depends on market prices.

steel gets you more magic xp per hour, addy gets more smithing, total xp also goes to steel due to doing 9 per inv, but its only about a 15-20k xp/h difference

From: YoHoJo
Yeah but keep in mind, steel bars (or any lower level bars) require less coal, therefore you can smelt more per inventory. So I think steel bars will always be the most xp/hr. As for gp, it depends on market prices.

yes you do more per inven, but it also takes more time to do it therefore reducing the xp. I have a calc that does this, so i know. :sasmokin:
Rune bars the are the most xp at ~45k/hr (smithing) for f2p. Thats what i do on my main.

…more time means more time actually training the skill and less time banking.
Reason higher bars are better then is because the xp you get from them / time is > the time is takes to bank from lower bars. Get me? :p

for the absolute highest xp you should try doing gold, I'm pretty sure that would be the best xp out for both smithing and mage, but im pretty sure cannot be done for a profit.

From: quazzymodem
for the absolute highest xp you should try doing gold, I'm pretty sure that would be the best xp out for both smithing and mage, but im pretty sure cannot be done for a profit.

Gold is not profitable, but highest xp yes because you could do
Gold ores + wear Goldsmith Gauntlets which would give 56.2 smiting XP per bar as compared to the normal 22.5 without the gauntlets. They also require no coal, so 27 casts per inventory.

From: YoHoJo
…more time means more time actually training the skill and less time banking.
Reason higher bars are better then is because the xp you get from them / time is > the time is takes to bank from lower bars. Get me? :p

???Im confused lol. But steel bars = lowest smith xp, highest mage xp (per hour). Rune Bars = highest smith xp, lowest mage xp(per hour).

Yeah higher smithing xp PER BAR yes. But when supereating/smithing you can make MORE STEEL BARS PER LOAD and therefore more bars faster, so faster xp (both smithing and mage xp)!

From: YoHoJo
Yeah higher smithing xp PER BAR yes. But when supereating/smithing you can make MORE STEEL BARS PER LOAD and therefore more bars faster, so faster xp (both smithing and mage xp)!

Nope. The added xp per bar works out even with doing 200 less bars and hour for addy to give more smithing xp than steel does. right now im getting about 30k smithing xp an hour and 45k magic doing addy, when doing steel my smithing xp is like 10-20k lol

[Magic : 101838 Mage XP/Hr ]
[Smith : 32665[Bars made : 174 ]

Steel. Optimized Script :D.

price of steel bars are rising as i sell mine currently at 30gp above mid at minimum =) i sell 10k bars at a time.
there rising more and more everyday

From: YoHoJo
Steel. Optimized Script :D.

Mouse key imitation?:D

From: saurkulsh
Mouse key imitation?:D

Nah I don't think people even use mousekeys for this do they?
Just little things here and there that add up and save a lot of time.

Hey I have a question for you superheaters.

Do you find superheating works better then smelting with color detection?

Seeing how there is no travelling involved in superheating I'm considering trying it out.

I've been working feverishly at a smelting script but colors keep changing dynamically in my runescape, its becoming a problem.

Let me know! :D

Do you find superheating works better then smelting with color detection?

What do you mean, all scripts are color.

And if you are asking if it's faster, yes, it's MUCH MUCH faster than reuglar smelting. Problem is that you need to buy ores/runes (unles you mine own) but it's not that much of a problem because a lot of bars are profitable even if you buy materials anyways.

I'm aware all scripts are color ^^.

The second part answered most of my question :) thank you kindly.

From: YoHoJo
Nah I don't think people even use mousekeys for this do they?
Just little things here and there that add up and save a lot of time.

Please post it :bart:

Everyone should watch the addy prices very closely its spiking well over 1500 gp ea and the bars are selling at about 3500 ea right now!

From: quazzymodem
Everyone should watch the addy prices very closely its spiking well over 1500 gp ea and the bars are selling at about 3500 ea right now!

Cheers was going to look into addy bars myself

Meaning 1500 gp profit each?

meaning 1.5k for the addy, about 1300 for the coal and about 250 for the nat meaning that your making almost nothing lol

From: quazzymodem
meaning 1.5k for the addy, about 1300 for the coal and about 250 for the nat meaning that your making almost nothing lol

Coal is not 1300? Wat.

From: YoHoJo
Coal is not 1300? Wat.

You need 6 coal ore for 1 addy bar:sasmokin:

iron ores are difficult to buy recently. even +5% is slow

From: lordvolt
iron ores are difficult to buy recently. even +5% is slow

I mine my iron now, buy coal, oh how I hate the risk of botting iron.

I might have to whip up an edgeville or dwarvin mine script

I had to rise my offer +10% so I could buy iron ore. Price is getting crazy!

Yohojo, which program you use for Superheating ?

Hmmm… Many other things other than just steel bars are rocketing, look at runes for example :D I'm going to give cannonballs / raw material gathering perhaps…

Steel bars are slipping…

Currently bought 50, at 35gp under mid.
did the same test 3 times earlier.

From: trials6112
Steel bars are slipping…

Currently bought 50, at 35gp under mid.
did the same test 3 times earlier.

Raw materials are slippin' too. Hopefully things don't start dropping drastically now.

yeah be careful. i am thinking about dumping 200k worth of steel bar superheating supplies. =/

Oh they are going to. It was obvious from the start.
Many bots died, stuff started selling at crazy higher due to lower supply/higher demand/not enough supply to fulfill demand, the shiz can't rise FOREVER to eventually it had to either even out our fall. It's falling!

=P ok, i sold everything but 25k worth of superheat supplies. made a nice tidy profit on most things. made 6gp per ore on iron so not to bad.

nows the best time to superheat just saying. Iron is being dumped from the merchanting clans and all supplies are low. getting 200gp per bar with instant buy.

prices will spike again after this fall, it will probably even reach a higher price, the market has been doing this since Clusterfutter, I don't think the supply has hit a point to break the cycle yet. You might want to get your supplys when the cost dips, this is what I have been doing seeing as I have enough money to keep autoing while the cycle is in process. This allows you to make well over 400 per steel bar superheated :)


Well if you didnt believe me you can go look at the bar prices and the ore prices now =] I just spent a large amount of coins on supplys for steel bars, assuming that my prediction for bar price at the time I sell them I should be making somewhere between 200-300 per bar. The best part is all supplies bought instantly with that profit margin. Thought I might let you all know to buy right now if you want to make some fast and serious money.

Is there some kind of bot for this?

From: Piefrenzy
Is there some kind of bot for this?

Yes, i'm using it right now.