SRL Archive - S.M.A.R.T. Tutorials

Well I (as well as many other people I've seen) have been complaining and plagued with what is called 'fps lag' on SMART.

You can check you fps by going to an rs client and typing
`displayfps
and then pressing enter and again ` to exit the debug screen thingy.

I was always have ~7 FPS on SMART no matter what the hell I was doing, the crowd around me, or the server. While on my browser I was always at 28+.

These people are able to run Runescape JUST FINE on their browsers and hardware was not as issue at all (it takes very little to run RS with full FPS).


Although this doesn't hurt running scripts too much I believe the lag does hurt the speed and accuracy of scripts, as well as just be an annoyance overall. After just dealing with it and accepting it as normal since SO MANY other people have and trying many random fixes I think I have now found the problem!

I believe overall, the newer(est) versions of java are the culprit.
Java 7 specifically is the problem, while Java 6 Update 32 works just fine! (Any version of Java 6)
Many people including myself believe installing the latest and newest java would solve everything, but this did not work.


TL;DR
Uninstall all Javas COMPLETELY. Install Java 6 Update 29 (32 bit) OR Java 6 Update 32 (Any version of Java 6) (Just NOT Java 7)!
Guide Stats Here

1) Completely remove and delete all Java from you computer. I THINK the regular ol windows uninstaller should work just fine, but I prefer to use Revo Uninstaller (free program found here http://www.revouninstaller.com/) which COMPLETELY removes every trace of the program. Choose advanced uninstall and delete every damn little thing it lets you (be careful, it may ask you to delete some programs you want when deleting java so READ before checking boxes).

2) Even after doing these things, go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Java and delete any and all Java folders found in there!

3) Install Java 6 Update 32, 32 bit version NOT 7 for me, they are found here http://www.filehippo.com/download_jre_32/tech/12197 (Filehippo has ALL versions of Java, this specific link is to 6.30)
You should just have to download JRE, but I got JDK (which includes JRE with it).

(No need to restart computer)
Bada Bing Bada Boom! :spot:

SMART should now run Runescape with just as many FPS as in your browser!
Also, slide the FPS slider on the right of SMART all the way up to achieve maximum FPS! (For me the lowering the FPS barely even lowers CPU/RAM usage so I'd rather my bots run with the smoothest FPS they can rather than laggy).
Also, Also, setting CPU usage in Runescape settings to Maximum gives me 10 more FPS compared to Very Low (20 on Very Low, 30 on Maximum)

Let me know if this works for you, and any additions/changes you think should be made to this post!

Didn't fix for me.

windows 8 works better with the java than windows 7 did on my (horrible) laptop I have 15fps standing still vs like 5.. and w8 has 28 processes running

I get around 12fps when moving which is pretty good for the laptop, on other machines I have no problem


other than that versions of java don't seem to change it, on my other machines my fps hits maximum no matter what

From: grats
windows 8 works better with the java than windows 7 did on my (horrible) laptop I have 15fps standing still vs like 5.. and w8 has 28 processes running

I get around 12fps when moving which is pretty good for the laptop, on other machines I have no problem


other than that versions of java don't seem to change it, on my other machines my fps hits maximum no matter what

Ya I don't feel like using a dev OS that doesn't have support for my Graphics card yet.

From: wyn10
Ya I don't feel like using a dev OS that doesn't have support for my Graphics card yet.

lol yea I definitely wouldn't use it for my main machine, so far all the drivers I've tested work fine with it though (windows 7 versions)

do you have a good machine that runs smart at low FPS? from what I saw when running it on my server smart eats up 8 cores without hesitation, to run itself at high fps

From: grats
lol yea I definitely wouldn't use it for my main machine, so far all the drivers I've tested work fine with it though (windows 7 versions)

do you have a good machine that runs smart at low FPS? from what I saw when running it on my server smart eats up 8 cores without hesitation, to run itself at high fps

I shouldn't need a good machine to run Smart when I can run Rs itself fine maxed out.

Yea, I was just wondering if you had a good machine and smart wasn't maxing fps

it even helped my rs client run faster

thnx man:)

Sorry for this possible grave dig, but it deserves it it fixed my Screenlagg thanks!
Might you can add a crack for Revo Unistaller? :p

From: Failure
Sorry for this possible grave dig, but it deserves it it fixed my Screenlagg thanks!
Might you can add a crack for Revo Unistaller? :p

It's okay to bump, it's a common problem and was unfixed for so long, glad it's figured out now and people can bot better!
I think even the free version of it lasts forever?
I don't remember ever cracking/using keygen but maybe I did and forgot.

Anyways… posting files like that is illegal at SRL, just use Google if you really want the full version of it!

Glad it's all better for you now woo hoo!

From: YoHoJo
It's okay to bump, it's a common problem and was unfixed for so long, glad it's figured out now and people can bot better!
I think even the free version of it lasts forever?
I don't remember ever cracking/using keygen but maybe I did and forgot.

Anyways… posting files like that is illegal at SRL, just use Google if you really want the full version of it!

Glad it's all better for you now woo hoo!

There's a day 30 day Trial, and I already found a crack though and since it's illegal to post it will never be posted :p I sure hope it helps others! :D

i did all this but only instaled 6.30 java cuz couldnt find 29 one (probably outdated already ?)

From: Vaikiss
i did all this but only instaled 6.30 java cuz couldnt find 29 one (probably outdated already ?)

They've updated their website to where 6.30 is the "recommended" version. I know that even a week ago, it was still 6.29, so 6.30 is probably stable enough since it changed. I think this one will be fine. You should be able to find 6.29 in a quick google search though.

Yea they recently updated to 6.30
Anyways did you have lag before and did this fix it, or did you just do it because?

http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=867660#post867660

plz help me out!

fixed it for me! props!

fixed it for me too :D fuckin java :D

Where do I get Java 6.29 32 bit? I couldn't find from your link, did some search as well.

~Eerik.

From: Heavenzeyez1
Where do I get Java 6.29 32 bit? I couldn't find from your link, did some search as well.

~Eerik.

http://www.oldapps.com/java.php

Updated first post a bit to say Java 6.29 OR 6.30.
Also updated with a link to all java versions.

Yes, it worked, I can confirm. Finally I can normally bot on SMART again, thanks, rep+! :)

~Eerik.

E: Can't rep you again. :/

Thanks for this, I just updated Java and was confused why all of sudden it became slow.

you specifically state "(32 bit)" can we not do 64 bit if we have windows 7?

From: tywart
you specifically state "(32 bit)" can we not do 64 bit if we have windows 7?

Simba/Smart etc are 32 bit, you can download Java 7 for 64 bit if you wish, but for 32 bit make sure you download version 6.

YoHoJo what version do you recommend the most for running multiple bots or what version do you use i seen you posted in another thread please and thank you in advance !

From: YoHoJo
It actually does, now that I got my SMARTs not lagging but getting older version of java, adjusting the bar makes a difference, especially when running multiple it helps to keep them low! :D

6.anything is fine, just not version 7.
In your runescape settings set CPU Ussage to minimum, and slider the fps slider on the right of smart as low as you can for thr script to still run properly.

CPU is the most important factor in being able to run more smarts.

Im running 2 right now each one using about 15% Cpu what version of 6 would you mostly recommend the most Java 6 Update 29 ? and i dont mind how much cpu it uses im only one that uses the computer and when i work i just start the 2 bots and thats it so would be it better to slide all the way to the top ? computer is pretty decent i5 with 6gb ram

Any version of 6 is fine as far as I know it's just 7 that's not good.

All the way up would be overkill and if just 2 is fine for you and CPU donesnt matter then Just don't even mess with the slider and you'll be fine.

Idk but i think i love you solid 40-50 FPS now

running 2 bots right now one stays between 40 and 50 FPS and other one stays between 45-50 FPS and about 50% CPU atm i recommend this guide to anyone and everyone

If you move the slider on the right side of smart down, it lowers the FPS, and therefor lowers the CPU ussing, allowing you to run a lot more at once!

Glad I could help!

Thanks fps went from 7 to 30

Aww yeah that's what in talking about!
Feels good huh?

i tried this on my friends computer, and it worked (my computer has no problems originally), also people need to remember that alot of computers will have a LOWER FPS on safemode then directX or OpenGL (although it seems the bot requires safe-mode)

How do you get SMART out of safe mode? Or does it have to be like that?

From: starkidace
How do you get SMART out of safe mode? Or does it have to be like that?

Yes it should be on safe mode :)

You can also get Java officially from Oracle.
Java 6 Update 30: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
Scroll down to find it.
In addition, you can find previous versions of Java 6 here:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javasebusiness/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase6-419409.html

Fixed my problem. Thanks!

Oh. So THAT is what is wrong.. Too bad that RuneDream requires Java 7, but Simba is much better so I I'll go with that.

Thanks a lot for the fix! =)

Didn't fix for me, still wondering! :/

Tried your method but saddly didn't work! :(
After a few tests, I came to the conclusion that the safe mode was the root of the problem. You can go into safe mode by holding the 's' button while te RS screen is loading. I ran two clients at the same time; one on safe mode, the other on the 'normal' software mode. I logged into both clients using the same account (not at the same time, obviously) and checked the FPS. For the normal client, it remained steady at 23 - 25 but for the safe mode version, it flacuated between 7 and 16 max depending on if the world was crowded or not.
I have uninstalled Java several times and tried different versions which were below 7 only to be given failure. Also, I completely formated my computer which entirely erased my OS but that didn't leave any noticable improvement.
If anyone can help me figure out what's wrong, I'll be for ever grateful. Also, is it possible to run SMART on the software mode instead of the usual safe mode?

Edit 1: I've just tried OpenGL and DirectX modes and my FPS have just shoot up to 30 and 34!

From: HT BaaFly
Tried your method but saddly didn't work! :(
After a few tests, I came to the conclusion that the safe mode was the root of the problem. You can go into safe mode by holding the 's' button while te RS screen is loading. I ran two clients at the same time; one on safe mode, the other on the 'normal' software mode. I logged into both clients using the same account (not at the same time, obviously) and checked the FPS. For the normal client, it remained steady at 23 - 25 but for the safe mode version, it flacuated between 7 and 16 max depending on if the world was crowded or not.
I have uninstalled Java several times and tried different versions which were below 7 only to be given failure. Also, I completely formated my computer which entirely erased my OS but that didn't leave any noticable improvement.
If anyone can help me figure out what's wrong, I'll be for ever grateful. Also, is it possible to run SMART on the software mode instead of the usual safe mode?

Edit 1: I've just tried OpenGL and DirectX modes and my FPS have just shoot up to 30 and 34!

Very interesting find….

Wait, why cant we use normal graphics in SMART?

I have no clue at all. When I try to change the mode in SMART, I'm presented with an error in the Runescape chat log saying something along the lines of, "Failed to change mode, try again later".

This also helps with most online 3d games
http://www.leatrix.com/

From: YoHoJo

You can check you fps by going to an rs client and typing
`displayfps
and then pressing enter and again ` to exit the debug screen thingy.

Yeh you lost me there, I can't get my fps to show up :redface:

From: abu_jwka
Yeh you lost me there, I can't get my fps to show up :redface:

you gotta hit the little ` key in the top left of your keyboard, then the debug screen should pop up. then type in 'displayfps' (without the 's). then hit the ` key again to get rid of the debug window. And repeat the process to turn the FPS off.

Sadly this doesn't fix for me…. My FPS is around 40 before I log in, but once I log in it drops to around 6-9 FPS :confused:

Thank you it worked good for me and helped me alot.

Is it normal that I have 3 different java installed on my comp?

One 32 bit and one 64 bit is fine.
You can uninstall the top one on that list.

Thanks YoHoJo and since you are still around, I have a problem I need fixing and I was directed here, but even after installing the latest java, it is still there.

Everytime I try to run a script, it gives me this

Error: Exception: Access violation at line 101
The following DTMs were not freed: [0, 1]

Any idea for a fix/solution?

http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=851555#post851555

Dude this thread is the solution; I already used FAQs, and it directed me to this thread however it does not actually fix the problem. So I was wondering if you have a different method of fixing it

Sorry about that, didn't know.
Um.
Uninstall all Javas completely using Revo.
Install latest Java 6 32 bit ONLY and try again.
That's my only guess :/.

when i install a java 6, simba doesnt work and i get error ;/ but simba works with java 7 just slow… if there a fix or should i stay with 7?

this is my error: Error: Exception: Access violation at line 101
The following DTMs were not freed: [SRL - Lamp bitmap, 1]
The following bitmaps were not freed: [SRL - Mod bitmap, SRL - Admin bitmap, SRL - Flag bitmap]

(line 121 = end; )

please help
thanks

Anyone have a link to jre 6 for mac? =\

From: rtyrty100
Anyone have a link to jre 6 for mac? =\

Wells far as I know to run simba on Mac you need to install it through wine, and you must also install java through wine, so windows version is what you need. Get latest java 6 from filehippo

Not sure if i'm an idiot, but the link takes me to JRE 7 u4.

I click link, Technical Tab>

Title: Java Runtime Environment 1.6.0.30 (32-bit)

Which is Java 6 Update 30.


Here is a link to the newer java 6 update 32:
http://www.filehippo.com/download_jre_32/tech/12197/
Use that ^

This worked i love you with all my heat <3 arrggggg it workksksskskkssss

if my computer is a 64 bit do i still download the 32 bit?

From: ascipulus
if my computer is a 64 bit do i still download the 32 bit?

Yes because simba/SMART are 32 bit.

hey, how can i run SMART under Java 6 update 32 32bit while still having a different default java installed, could a command line do it?

From: ineedbot
hey, how can i run SMART under Java 6 update 32 32bit while still having a different default java installed, could a command line do it?

Talk to 'Brandon' about it.
He made a .bat file or something that switches between Java 6 and 7.

FYI Oracle are still distributing 6u32
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk-6u32-downloads-1594644.html

Thnx man i love u, been having simba for 6 months and it has always been lagging, and i could only use 1 account at a time, i thought it was my computer until i saw this thread. Now it works like a charm! :)

Helped me alot, thank you. But now I am not able to type in SMART or move camera even when SMART is disabled.. :/

Click enable disable a few times and try. Many people need to do this for it to work. Just toggle it a few times.

JRE 6u33: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html

JDK 6u33: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk6-downloads-1637591.html

JRE 7u5: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1637588.html

JDK 7u5: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk7-downloads-1637583.html


All work fine for me. u33 is pretty new and it works well. u5 isn't that bad either.

From: YoHoJo
Click enable disable a few times and try. Many people need to do this for it to work. Just toggle it a few times.

I need to click it like 25 times constantly spamming my keyboard if I want to even have a chance to get it work :/

Thanks for the clear guide. I was getting stuck before with the error but I am glad I found this.

Thanks again

For me, it helps to slide the slider a few times. (randomly)

Still doesn't fix Error: Exception: Access violation at line 101
The following DTMs were not freed: [SRL - Lamp bitmap, 1]
The following bitmaps were not freed: [SRL - Mod bitmap, SRL - Admin bitmap, SRL - Flag bitmap]

From: Mtv
Still doesn't fix Error: Exception: Access violation at line 101
The following DTMs were not freed: [SRL - Lamp bitmap, 1]
The following bitmaps were not freed: [SRL - Mod bitmap, SRL - Admin bitmap, SRL - Flag bitmap]

Is fixed don't worry!

yeah when… :( because i do have same problen with java 6 … but not with java 7

Hi, I tried alot of the things u mentioned but still i keep getting this error message. It just highlights end and gives me this:

Error: Exception: Access violation at line 101
The following DTMs were not freed: [SRL - Lamp bitmap, 1]
The following bitmaps were not freed: [SRL - Mod bitmap, SRL - Admin bitmap, SRL - Flag bitmap]

I get this when I run every script plz help!!! Thanks

From: R0b1n_H00dz101
Hi, I tried alot of the things u mentioned but still i keep getting this error message. It just highlights end and gives me this:

Error: Exception: Access violation at line 101
The following DTMs were not freed: [SRL - Lamp bitmap, 1]
The following bitmaps were not freed: [SRL - Mod bitmap, SRL - Admin bitmap, SRL - Flag bitmap]

I get this when I run every script plz help!!! Thanks

Doing a quick search would tell you how to fix this. If memory serves, you just need to click on tools -> Update and that should fix it. But It has been a while, so maybe try the search at the top of the forum.

So, after much sadness, I will briefly reawaken this thread. I am getting a similar Access violation error- but I have seemingly tried everything.

SRL, SPS, MSI and Simba are fully updated. I've made sure Simba is running with admin privileges.

I have completely purged Java a few times- It gives me the same error with 6.29, 6.30, and 7.6.

Oddly enough, after it logs in and freezes, it opens another SMART window but the second time can't log in. When I end the program, it doesn't tell me which line the violation is- seems odd. If anyone has any ideas, it would be greatly appreciated.

I would be willing to check it out on teamviewer, I've never seen anything like that so would have to figure it out

ok, sounds good. sometime tomorrow?

sure just PM me, usually on during my night (it's 4AM here) usually on from afternoon - early morning

I was getting insane lag over time on Simba and didn't know why. Now I can run two SMART windows with smooth FPS! I guess this fixed it! :) Thanks a lot!

Was having FPS problems, was only getting 8-12 and then remembered I wrote this guide.
It was very clear and helpful and I'm getting great FPS now!
Thank you YoHoJo you have helped me out once again +rep!

I have no lag what so ever on J7, is the problem just for some people or what?

From: Copyright5
I have no lag what so ever on J7, is the problem just for some people or what?

It used to happen long ago, I think now it is no longer a problem w/ latest smart and latest java.
Thread was made on 11-24-2011.

From: YoHoJo
It used to happen long ago, I think now it is no longer a problem w/ latest smart and latest java.
Thread was made on 11-24-2011.

Sorry to be a lil gravediggy….. So.. You don't think it would help at all trying to use an older java?
cos i have had insane lagg lately.. I guess i updated to smart 8.. perhaps i should downgrade..


EDIT: Just in case anyone reads this..
I resolved my issue by opening the bottom of my laptop(its plugged into a monitor and wireless keyboard/mouse) and allowing it to get more air..
OVERHEATING caused me terrible lagg :(

Its .. bearable now.

increased by a little much not a lot though, still cant see much of a difference thanks nevertheless tho

From: kazzero
increased by a little much not a lot though, still cant see much of a difference thanks nevertheless tho

What you are seeing in fps change is most likely irrelevant/non-existant in Smart v8.2/v8.3+. The reason is because Smart is now compatible with Java7 and actually attempting to use it or even compile it with Java 6 isn't possible anymore without changes to its canvas and core.

Are you lagging that badly?

Any ideas what could fix that at this time? I tried this guide but it doesn't help :/ I got everything updated back again and there's still lag.