SRL Archive - Discussions & Debates

Well I was wondering wich cpu is best for botting about 50 bots and is this even possible?
I think something with more cores is better like xeon or something?
How much ram would this require?

I was wondering what you should look for in a processor to run alot of bots like 50 or even more.
Since xeon and normal i7 are quite different so wich one is better for this?

Budget about 2000-3000 usd.

50 bots??? You crazy goldfarmer??

Well the main limiting factor is usually RAM. Also, AMD's new bulldozer seems suited really well for botting and such, because of its multithreaded architecture.

From: Markus
50 bots??? You crazy goldfarmer??

Well the main limiting factor is usually RAM. Also, AMD's new bulldozer seems suited really well for botting and such, because of its multithreaded architecture.

Hahahaha yeah I was expecting that reply and well I don't goldfarm yet.
I was thinking the same maybe a motherboard with place for 2 cpu's and then 2 8 core amd bulldozer in it would be enough I think.

Lots and lots and lots of ram. Get a mobo that supports 24Gb and max it out an you should be fine…for atleast 20 anyways….

From: Hobbit
Lots and lots and lots of ram. Get a mobo that supports 24Gb and max it out an you should be fine…for atleast 20 anyways….

I think 24gb is enough for atleast 40-50 bots just need a big cpu with it?
And if that isn't enough ram well you got some motherboards wich support 96gb ram or even more would that achieve 50 bots?

I don't know why you guys think RAM is a bottleneck. Each Simba will use ~300MB RAM at most, and usually CPU is my bottleneck at 4 GB RAM.

Though don't try to goldfarm, it's lame, and what ruins the game.

From: Harry
I don't know why you guys think RAM is a bottleneck. Each Simba will use ~300MB RAM at most, and usually CPU is my bottleneck at 4 GB RAM.

Though don't try to goldfarm, it's lame, and what ruins the game.

^This!
I have 4 gb RAM aswell, and I can run 1 smart, because the CPU messes up.

~Eerik.

I have 6gb ram, and smart takes up like 3% of one of my 8 cores and a butt load of my ram.

Hmmmm k so what kind of cpu would I need for 50 bots?
I understand I would need atleast 24gb ram for it.

Probably a dual socket i7 would be good.

From: Hobbit
Probably a dual socket i7 would be good.

Hmmmm k 24 gb ram and 2 8core xeons what you think of that?

Unless you already have a disposable income IRL, you will probably find paying this much to "gold farm" RS to be in vain. You'd spend more time relocating the people, selling the gold, electricity, etc.

Harry is right. It'll take you long enough to pay for the stuff you're going to have in the computer, and to earn money on it it's going to take even longer…

From: Harry
Unless you already have a disposable income IRL, you will probably find paying this much to "gold farm" RS to be in vain. You'd spend more time relocating the people, selling the gold, electricity, etc.

Hohohoho I already pay a crazy ammount of electricity I already got a 1000w psu here :D anyways i'm not goldfarming yet like I sayd I found this interresting don't you?

I got the money right here.

VPN:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network

Also SMART isn't as good with handling CPU/RAM as many java bots were so you won't be able to run as many as them.

Anyways, not really a such thing as a 'best' one, just get a damn good one, better processor=more SMARTs. But I don't think it's worth buying a crazy good processor just to be able to run a lot of SMARTs lol.

I suggest you look on benchmarks… the newest models are not always best. the motherboard does make a difference in performance to.

From: YoHoJo
VPN:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network

Also SMART isn't as good with handling CPU/RAM as many java bots were so you won't be able to run as many as them.

Anyways, not really a such thing as a 'best' one, just get a damn good one, better processor=more SMARTs. But I don't think it's worth buying a crazy good processor just to be able to run a lot of SMARTs lol.

Simba is the only bot exept rid out there and scar ofcourse right?
So what you think of 2 hexadeca cores?
2 times a 16 core cpu?
Or maybe 4?

Probably some big ass server board, 2 xeons/bulldozers, 32gb RAM, decent gfx?

From: Floor66
Probably some big ass server board, 2 xeons/bulldozers, 32gb RAM, decent gfx?

Any specific ideas on wich cpu to take and wich mobo?

Honestly dude, you shouldn't make a PC based on it's ability to bot runescape, unless you really plan to goldfarm like crazy, and the question basically is What is you budget, knowing that we can figure out the best build for you.

If a computer is powreful, then it's powerful at everything. So let's just see what your budget is, and make the best thing we can based on that.

From: YoHoJo
Honestly dude, you shouldn't make a PC based on it's ability to bot runescape, unless you really plan to goldfarm like crazy, and the question basically is What is you budget, knowing that we can figure out the best build for you.

If a computer is powreful, then it's powerful at everything. So let's just see what your budget is, and make the best thing we can based on that.

Well i've got a worth of around 1500 usd in runescape stuff gold etc and about 1500 usd in real life cash so quite a reasonable budget.

Get the best Intel Sandy Bridge processor you can afford, whatever mobo fits the socket (with whatever extra fancy features you want), 8GB (or more) of RAM (I like g.skill brand RAM for price and performance).

From: jordi1104
I got the money right here.

Mind sending it to me?
I got a nice Pentium 3 that will run you .050 bots

-Boom

From: YoHoJo
Get the best Intel Sandy Bridge processor you can afford, whatever mobo fits the socket (with whatever extra fancy features you want), 8GB (or more) of RAM (I like g.skill brand RAM for price and performance).

It's not enough for 50 bots is it?
I've got a i7 950 with 6gb ram here already and a gtx 580.
Just really need one wich can handle 50 bots.
I'm not sure if sandy bridge can do that maybe it can maybe not i'm not that much into those that I know.

Buy a VPN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network
Bascially you pay to get remote access to other computers, on which you can run bots.
I think better ones cost more $, and you can buy multiple so just buy a bunch.

You can throw down $1,050 for this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116491&nm_mc=EMC-GD111411&cm_mmc=EMC-GD111411-_-index-_-Topbanner-_-19116491
LOL

From: YoHoJo
Buy a VPN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network
Bascially you pay to get remote access to other computers, on which you can run bots.
I think better ones cost more $, and you can buy multiple so just buy a bunch.

You can throw down $1,050 for this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116491&nm_mc=EMC-GD111411&cm_mmc=EMC-GD111411-_-index-_-Topbanner-_-19116491
LOL

They don't allow botting simple as that vps some of them do and well they all went out of bussiness and are terrible for simba pretty much gonna need to buy my own pc.

Gold farmers coming to SRL… :(

If you want to run 50 bots (in my honest opinion you're a goldfarmer) I think you should buy a vps or something.
Always disable graphics and make sure you buy a lot of ram :)

From: Perfecticus
If you want to run 50 bots (in my honest opinion you're a goldfarmer) I think you should buy a vps or something.
Always disable graphics and make sure you buy a lot of ram :)

They don't work very well for simba honestly….

How much would a i7 2600k with 24gb run?

Only way to find out is to test it. on a unlocked cpu the bottleneck is the temp so you want proper cooling and make sure the temp of the cpu never breach 100 celsius.

From: tom99
Only way to find out is to test it. on a unlocked cpu the bottleneck is the temp so you want proper cooling and make sure the temp of the cpu never breach 100 celsius.

K but a estimate?

on my quad core 930 i could run 25 so maby 40 ? would be impossible to predict, just gotta go ahead and try :)

From: tom99
on my quad core 930 i could run 25 so maby 40 ? would be impossible to predict, just gotta go ahead and try :)

Seriously?
I was expecting about 25 wich is the minimum I need.

Im quide dubious about this quad core 930 with 25 bots. i have i5-2500k overlcocked to 4.5Ghz and i can manage about 8 bots before 100% on all cores. i havent tried running more as i have no need to (im not goldfarmer)

Get a dual socket i7 motherboard, 2 i7-2600k chips - OC @ 4.5GHz (stable overclock). 24GB of ram, look for PC3-16000+ (considering you really have no budget, or you can get cheaper RAM and overclock it). GeForce GTX 460 at the minimum so your pc isn't just a coaster after you're done with it :P.

If your going to run 40-50 bots then expect a ban from Jagex. As soon as Jagex sees 40-50 accounts of yours logged from the same ip they know somethings up. They could also sue you for gold farming.

Bot Smart, and don't be greedy.

From: bs merchants
Im quide dubious about this quad core 930 with 25 bots. i have i5-2500k overlcocked to 4.5Ghz and i can manage about 8 bots before 100% on all cores. i havent tried running more as i have no need to (im not goldfarmer)

Why is that hard to believe ? its not all about the cpu a computer is not that simple.

From: kingarabian
If your going to run 40-50 bots then expect a ban from Jagex. As soon as Jagex sees 40-50 accounts of yours logged from the same ip they know somethings up. They could also sue you for gold farming.

Bot Smart, and don't be greedy.

I might run 50 bots I might and seriously I can just buy extra ip adresses.
If they sue me let them there are no laws in my country for gold farming so all they can do if they even can prove the goldfarming is forbid me to do it again and by that time I coulden't care less.

From: leechers
Get a dual socket i7 motherboard, 2 i7-2600k chips - OC @ 4.5GHz (stable overclock). 24GB of ram, look for PC3-16000+ (considering you really have no budget, or you can get cheaper RAM and overclock it). GeForce GTX 460 at the minimum so your pc isn't just a coaster after you're done with it :P.

I got a bit of money saved up and a gtx 580 right here so yeah no probs.
Although I don't know if dual 2600k can be run since I know no motherboard wich can run 2 of those do you?

From: jordi1104
I might run 50 bots I might and seriously I can just buy extra ip adresses.
If they sue me let them there are no laws in my country for gold farming so all they can do if they even can prove the goldfarming is forbid me to do it again and by that time I coulden't care less.

Okay good luck.

From: kingarabian
Okay good luck.

Thank you.

From: jordi1104
I got a bit of money saved up and a gtx 580 right here so yeah no probs.
Although I don't know if dual 2600k can be run since I know no motherboard wich can run 2 of those do you?

There's only a few I can find and they are VERY VERY VERY expensive.
I'd go with 2 xeons in that case.

From: leechers
There's only a few I can find and they are VERY VERY VERY expensive.
I'd go with 2 xeons in that case.

Well I really just want one pc that can run atleast 25 bots since I can always upgrade.

just a quick question, why do you want to run 50 bots and a minimum of 25?

also, if you do go for the i7, get the 2700k not the 2600k

~shut

From: Shuttleu
just a quick question, why do you want to run 50 bots and a minimum of 25?

also, if you do go for the i7, get the 2700k not the 2600k

~shut

is this one better for botting purposes?
amd fx-8150 it's from amd so slightly slower but it has 8 cores.
Well I want to run a minimum of 25 bots and I can always buy another pc or upgrade.
So what's the best cpu and how much ram to run 25 bots on?

From: jordi1104
is this one better for botting purposes?
amd fx-8150 it's from amd so slightly slower but it has 8 cores.
Well I want to run a minimum of 25 bots and I can always buy another pc or upgrade.
So what's the best cpu and how much ram to run 25 bots on?

the 2700k will be better

and you never really answered my question
why do you want to run a minimum of 25 bots and why do you want to run 50?

~shut

From: Shuttleu
the 2700k will be better

and you never really answered my question
why do you want to run a minimum of 25 bots and why do you want to run 50?

~shut

I have to agree with shuttleu, you're always ignoring these kind of questions…

Don't worry, we won't stop you or anything :p, gold farming might be a bit stupid imo but no one can/will stop you, everything here is open source.

From: Shuttleu
the 2700k will be better

and you never really answered my question
why do you want to run a minimum of 25 bots and why do you want to run 50?

~shut

Well as everyone thinks I want to goldfarm well I currently am not sure I might start offering leveling for some skills.
Yeah I really love this community and I know if I start gold farming you all won't like it but well i'd be sure to contribute some of the money to the community.
And i still am not convinced gold farming is the best way.

From: jordi1104
Well as everyone thinks I want to goldfarm well I currently am not sure I might start offering leveling for some skills.
Yeah I really love this community and I know if I start gold farming you all won't like it but well i'd be sure to contribute some of the money to you.
And i still am not convinced gold farming is the best way.

right at least now we know something

im sorry for being a bit direct but it just strange when someone wants to run that many and wont tell anyone why…

~shut

From: jordi1104
Well as everyone thinks I want to goldfarm well I currently am not sure I might start offering leveling for some skills.
Yeah I really love this community and I know if I start gold farming you all won't like it but well i'd be sure to contribute some of the money to the community.
And i still am not convinced gold farming is the best way.

So you ARE going to goldfarm…

Here's my opinion about this, maybe you don't care, but i think it just destroys us, the community and the game.

Our community, how so?

Villavu isn't that popular(yet, it will be soon tho), and to be honest that's how i like it here, i don't want that shitty community with members swearing on every post they do, and stuff like tl;dr (w/e it was idk). I just don't like that! Villavu has the perfect harmony of helpful members, GREAT scriptwriters. We even love each other sometimes :p, and what i would like to say to you is, be a part of it, be a part of SRL/Villavu wonder, its not about the money you could contribute, because most of the SRL members(or higher) don't even play anymore, they just stick to the Forum, trying to help somehow… i am one of them, i don't play runescape anymore, still i script/help.

if you still think that's the best way then do it, but i wouldn't recommend that. Anyways, good luck

From: Tickyy
So you ARE going to goldfarm…

Here's my opinion about this, maybe you don't care, but i think it just destroys us, the community and the game.

Our community, how so?

Villavu isn't that popular(yet, it will be soon tho), and to be honest that's how i like it here, i don't want that shitty community with members swearing on every post they do, and stuff like tl;dr (w/e it was idk). I just don't like that! Villavu has the perfect harmony of helpful members, GREAT scriptwriters. We even love each other sometimes :p, and what i would like to say to you is, be a part of it, be a part of SRL/Villavu wonder, its not about the money you could contribute, because most of the SRL members(or higher) don't even play anymore, they just stick to the Forum, trying to help somehow… i am one of them, i don't play runescape anymore, still i script/help.

if you still think that's the best way then do it, but i wouldn't recommend that. Anyways, good luck

Like I sayd I consider it anyways I hope that the normal bots like reflection come back so this site won't be affected by the bad community's.
I could find a different indirect gold farming way wich doesn't affects the community in such a bad way like making accounts getting them to a certain level and selling them would be a also a good way to make money.
I could go on and on about gold farming but well it really isn't the main topic and it was pretty much summed up that it is bad and good more bad then good tho.
I do care how this affects the community but in the end it's everyone's personal choice one wich I have not fully made yet.

But to the main topic of conversation if i used a i7 2700k + 16gb ram would that be enough to run 25 bots?
Lol they got a webshop here wich sells the i7 2700k for 1000 usd so yeah kinda overpriced.

Gold farming ruins Runescape, and it's one of the main reasons why Jagex has tried to put a stop to bots.

Unless you use like 30 VPS', that's impossible anyway.

From: Harry
Gold farming ruins Runescape, and it's one of the main reasons why Jagex has tried to put a stop to bots.

Last time I currently don't goldfarm have nearly no intentions to I am more looking to supply a service account training or something similar wich isn't really goldfarming can we get back on topic.

From: litoris
Unless you use like 30 VPS', that's impossible anyway.

A vps doesn't work that well for simba I tried but smart doesn't work very good.

I can run atleast 10 bots on my pc and maybe even more my current specs are :

i7 950 6gb ram gtx580

From: jordi1104
Like I sayd I consider it anyways I hope that the normal bots like reflection come back so this site won't be affected by the bad community's.
I could find a different indirect gold farming way wich doesn't affects the community in such a bad way like making accounts getting them to a certain level and selling them would be a also a good way to make money.
I could go on and on about gold farming but well it really isn't the main topic and it was pretty much summed up that it is bad and good more bad then good tho.
I do care how this affects the community but in the end it's everyone's personal choice one wich I have not fully made yet.

But to the main topic of conversation if i used a i7 2700k + 16gb ram would that be enough to run 25 bots?
Lol they got a webshop here wich sells the i7 2700k for 1000 usd so yeah kinda overpriced.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i7-2700K-Sandy-Bridge-Processor-3-5ghz-/130601252194?pt=CPUs&hash=item1e6870f562

~shut

From: Shuttleu
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i7-2700K-Sandy-Bridge-Processor-3-5ghz-/130601252194?pt=CPUs&hash=item1e6870f562

~shut

Yeah I know the actual price prob buying a complete pc just wondering how much bots it can run with 16 gb ram?
And thanks for the helpfull information.

From: jordi1104
Yeah I know the actual price prob buying a complete pc just wondering how much bots it can run with 16 gb ram?
And thanks for the helpfull information.

what you are asking is like asking a random person on the street what your birthday is.

Ram is not ram, ramchips got different amount of pins there is dram ddr 1, 2 ,3
different number chips per module. the modules got different speeds. then there is bandwidth, quality, addressing and ALOT more.


Basicly there is alot of things to take into consideration. so the only way to find the answer is to try it or look on benchmarks.

From: YoHoJo
Buy a VPN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network
Bascially you pay to get remote access to other computers, on which you can run bots.
I think better ones cost more $, and you can buy multiple so just buy a bunch.

You can throw down $1,050 for this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116491&nm_mc=EMC-GD111411&cm_mmc=EMC-GD111411-_-index-_-Topbanner-_-19116491
LOL

that bugger can pull a truck out of a ditch rofl

What matters more is what you bot on runescape. There are methods from 20k/hr to several million/hr.

I'm fairly sure 2 half as good machines are far cheaper than 1 machine of twice the power… just saying

All you need is a dual core, like a AMD Phenom x2 550 or something ridiculously cheap, 64 bit, and like 24 gigs of RAM.
Hell, I used to run 6 copies of Aryan on a Pentium 4..

From: Deni_mulic
All you need is a dual core, like a AMD Phenom x2 550 or something ridiculously cheap, 64 bit, and like 24 gigs of RAM.
Hell, I used to run 6 copies of Aryan on a Pentium 4..

Runescape actually uses a lot more cpu power than it used to, thanks to their graphics improvements.

From: Deni_mulic
All you need is a dual core, like a AMD Phenom x2 550 or something ridiculously cheap, 64 bit, and like 24 gigs of RAM.
Hell, I used to run 6 copies of Aryan on a Pentium 4..

Simba works VERY DIFFERENTLY and uses A LOT more resources than Aryan/Java bots do/did.

Well on my Phenom x6 @ 3.4ghz, I can max out 12 SMART's. And it's not even over clocked. Once I get some bad ass 16gb ram and max out my cpu @ 4.5ghz, ill be able to run atleast 20. But of course I won't abuse my computer nor would I abuse my electricity bill, nor would I abuse runescape.

Anyway I need a new turbocharger for my car and I could sell a rig that can run your bots if ya want for 2-3k (yes I'm joking)

From: kingarabian
Well on my Phenom x6 @ 3.4ghz, I can max out 12 SMART's. And it's not even over clocked. Once I get some bad ass 16gb ram and max out my cpu @ 4.5ghz, ill be able to run atleast 20. But of course I won't abuse my computer nor would I abuse my electricity bill, nor would I abuse runescape.

Anyway I need a new turbocharger for my car and I could sell a rig that can run your bots if ya want for 2-3k (yes I'm joking)

Well my i7 950 can run quite some bots so I be okay and i'm probably gonna buy a new pc.