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@Coh3n and Wizzup


Wanted

2011-10-27 20:54:22

Since this thread was closed I am forced to reply here in a new thread. Feel free to lock this or merge it with that thread and lock it.

From: Coh3n
I looked at some of the include (mainly Login.scar) and it's almost exactly the same…


From: Wizzup
I don't think the problem is similarity. Icefire908 can use all the code he wants IMO. Just don't promote it as something that it isn't: "Official SCAR Include - Revolutionizing the way macros work.". (SRL 4 is now over three or four years old and your include surely looks like it)


If you do not wish for me to make posts like these refrain from spreading misleading information.

First of all, login.scar is a very small portion of the entire include.

Second of all, just because my login or logout may resemble what is in SRL remotely because I was the last person to do major work on them.

Third of all my login functions work much better than SRL's because they have been rewritten line by line, and they use a thing called Guass Variance.

Lastly try looking at the entire include and not just misinterpret a couple functions because you have no idea what you're talking about.

If you continue to make stupid posts like these I will continue to prove you wrong and post about OSI.

NCDS

2011-10-27 21:03:59

From: Wanted
Since this thread was closed I am forced to reply here in a new thread. Feel free to lock this or merge it with that thread and lock it.





If you do not wish for me to make posts like these refrain from spreading misleading information.

First of all, login.scar is a very small portion of the entire include.

Second of all, just because my login or logout may resemble what is in SRL remotely because I was the last person to do major work on them.

Third of all my login functions work much better than SRL's because they have been rewritten line by line, and they use a thing called Guass Variance.

Lastly try looking at the entire include and not just misinterpret a couple functions because you have no idea what you're talking about.

If you continue to make stupid posts like these I will continue to prove you wrong and post about OSI.


You're really doing nothing but giving OSI a bad reputation already…

I have nothing against what you guys are doing, but why keep flaming about it? Take the discussion to SCAR's forums as you were asked and be done with it. You speak of coexistence, yet you flame SRL like that's the last thing you want.

Go do your thing, and just let this go man..

Wanted

2011-10-27 21:09:31

From: NCDS
You're really doing nothing but giving OSI a bad reputation already…

I have nothing against what you guys are doing, but why keep flaming about it? Take the discussion to SCAR's forums as you were asked and be done with it. You speak of coexistence, yet you flame SRL like that's the last thing you want.

Go do your thing, and just let this go man..


Don't ever expect to post misleading information about anything and then except someone not to respond to it. That is all.

Coh3n

2011-10-27 21:26:31

Kay, you just said it was completely different and at a first glace they looks really similar. That's all I was saying. Of course I'm not going to analyze every file line by line…

I don't know how to say this in a nice way, so why don't you just fuck off? You clearly don't want to be here, you've said you don't give a shit about SRL anymore, so why bother even posting? It always leads to an argument anyway. Nothing is ever accomplished from the flame wars back and forth, so why even bother?

You've started your own include, great. If you didn't like how things were run here I don't blame you for leaving. No one wants to stay in an environment where they're unhappy. Since you started OSI, 99% of your posts have lead to flame wars or have been advertisements for OSI. So why don't you save everyone the aggravation and just leave.

If all this shit keeps up, I WILL ban you. Yeah, it's a threat. You're wasting a lot of people's time (including your own), and I'm sure you and everyone else is tired of it.

Wanted

2011-10-27 21:29:09

From: Coh3n
Kay, you just said it was completely different and at a first glace they looks really similar. That's all I was saying. Of course I'm not going to analyze every file line by line…

I don't know how to say this in a nice way, so why don't you just fuck off? You clearly don't want to be here, you've said you don't give a shit about SRL anymore, so why bother even posting? It always leads to an argument anyway. Nothing is ever accomplished from the flame wars back and forth, so why even bother?

You've started your own include, great. If you didn't like how things were run here I don't blame you for leaving. No one wants to stay in an environment where they're unhappy. Since you started OSI, 99% of your posts have lead to flame wars or have been advertisements for OSI. So why don't you save everyone the aggravation and just leave.

If all this shit keeps up, I WILL ban you. Yeah, it's a threat. You're wasting a lot of people's time (including your own), and I'm sure you and everyone else is tired of it.


Your threats are meaningless, but also have no merit or point as I do not intend to carry anything on my own unless it's a response to something that directly concerns me , i.e. OSI.

If you don't want posts like these then don't make posting concerning me directly that are false.

Coh3n

2011-10-27 21:32:20

From: Wanted
If you don't want posts like these then don't make posting concerning me directly that are false.
I was responding to a post you made that I disagreed with… that's all.

Wanted

2011-10-27 21:34:32

From: Coh3n
I was responding to a post you made that I disagreed with… that's all.


Your above post doesn't quite look that way

Narcle

2011-10-27 21:37:16

From: Wanted
Don't ever expect to post misleading information about anything and then except someone not to respond to it. That is all.


I believe that notice was made in SSRL? You call it misleading information but this was posted in SSRL, we aren't dumb, if we want to confirm it ourselves we'll look. There was nothing misleading about that post. This wasn't broadcasted to the public.

Wanted

2011-10-27 21:38:47

From: Narcle
I believe that notice was made in SSRL? You call it misleading information but this was posted in SSRL, we aren't dumb, if we want to confirm it ourselves we'll look. There was nothing misleading about that post. This wasn't broadcasted to the public.


This post was broadcasted to the exact same group. I am by no means applying anyone is dumb except maybe for the comment makers.

Coh3n

2011-10-27 21:38:48

From: Wanted
Your above post doesn't quite look that way
Oh god.

I'm done with this. It's so pointless and I'm tired.

Jason2gs

2011-10-27 21:40:27

If Wanted gets banned can I have my name changed to his?

It's such a cool name…

Wanted

2011-10-27 21:53:57

From: Jason2gs
If Wanted gets banned can I have my name changed to his?

It's such a cool name…


Not as cool as Jason2gs ;)

nielsie95

2011-10-28 12:19:07

All of these claims are subjective, they're just opinions. They don't state them as facts, so it's hardly misleading information. If I say your avatar looks a lot like *insert random person in here*, am I spreading misleading information? Nobody here is accusing you of stealing/copying code.

From: Wanted
Third of all my login functions work much better than SRL's because they have been rewritten line by line, and they use a thing called Guass Variance.

Aren't you being a little hypocritical here? You are stating that your login function is better (subjective). Because it has been rewritten? Some people might say you can introduce new bugs this way vs an old and steady code base.

Btw, for the Gauss functions you might as well have linked to these threads ;) If this was directed at 2 people, you also just could've sent a pm, so I'm not really sure what you're trying to accomplish here.

Wanted

2011-10-28 12:41:49

From: nielsie95
All of these claims are subjective, they're just opinions. They don't state them as facts, so it's hardly misleading information. If I say your avatar looks a lot like *insert random person in here*, am I spreading misleading information? Nobody here is accusing you of stealing/copying code.


Aren't you being a little hypocritical here? You are stating that your login function is better (subjective). Because it has been rewritten? Some people might say you can introduce new bugs this way vs an old and steady code base.

Btw, for the Gauss functions you might as well have linked to these threads ;) If this was directed at 2 people, you also just could've sent a pm, so I'm not really sure what you're trying to accomplish here.


Subjective unless you actually look into and realize the optimal randomization goes beyond just central tendency, it goes on its range. The way things actually go about performing and the order they are in make a lot more sense and are stable for long term.

Those functions were most recently largely remolded by myself anyways. I think I know them inside and out.

Things like chooseoption and 90% of everything else works in a completely different and smarter way, just because login may be remotely similar because I remolded them in SRL last doesn't give someone the idiotic right to judge my entire work and call it a copy and paste when they have not given it real consideration and/or (miss)analyzed a small portion of it.

No body is accusing me of stealing code because SRL include development is inactive and a good percentage of SRL is by myself a few others so it would be idiotic to say 'remove that from OSI' when I could just sure fine but remove any contribution I've ever made to SRL from SRL.

What I am trying to accomplish is being accomplished, while everyone here is pushing OSI away from their sights or undermining it in some stubborn pro-simba anti-scar fashion I'm busy revolutionizing like SRL 5 should of done a long time ago.

But you're half right on that note, and I got my point across so I closed the thread, and if you'd let me I'd like to keep it closed.

mastaraymond

2011-10-28 18:13:50

From: Wanted
Since this thread was closed I am forced to reply here in a new thread. Feel free to lock this or merge it with that thread and lock it.





If you do not wish for me to make posts like these refrain from spreading misleading information.

First of all, login.scar is a very small portion of the entire include.

Second of all, just because my login or logout may resemble what is in SRL remotely because I was the last person to do major work on them.

Third of all my login functions work much better than SRL's because they have been rewritten line by line, and they use a thing called Guass Variance.

Lastly try looking at the entire include and not just misinterpret a couple functions because you have no idea what you're talking about.

If you continue to make stupid posts like these I will continue to prove you wrong and post about OSI.

Look what Simba has!

https://github.com/MerlijnWajer/Simba/commit/0b503f8c58c67d4f0848a0ec4cc197e99786ff17

Wanted

2011-10-28 18:16:54

From: mastaraymond
Look what Simba has!

https://github.com/MerlijnWajer/Simba/commit/0b503f8c58c67d4f0848a0ec4cc197e99786ff17


Good job. Too bad SRL doesn't utilize any of it.

Also you have no idea what boundries you are going to run into trying to use that correctly on a box.

mastaraymond

2011-10-28 18:23:06

From: Wanted
Good job. Too bad SRL doesn't utilize any of it.

Also you have no idea what boundries you are going to run into trying to use that correctly on a box.

Luckily I study mathematics+comp sci, so I've indeed got no idea.

Btw, it's been in Simba for almost a year now, apparently there is not absolute use for it.

Wanted

2011-10-28 18:25:18

From: mastaraymond
Luckily I study mathematics+comp sci, so I've indeed got no idea.

Btw, it's been in Simba for almost a year now, apparently there is not absolute use for it.


It's been in simba for almost a year and no one has used it there for there is no use for it.

Stunning logic bro, study a bit harder in philosophy and maybe your math skills will actually come in handy one of these days.

mastaraymond

2011-10-28 18:28:52

From: Wanted
It's been in simba for almost a year and no one has used it there for there is no use for it.

Stunning logic bro, study a bit harder in philosophy and maybe your math skills will actually come in handy one of these days.

I was aiming at the fact that SRL's login.scar worked perfectly without it.

I can add lots of fancy stuff to SRL and then brag about it, but where does that get me in the end? That's the whole mistake SCAR keeps making (bah Simba vs SCAR discussion), adding fancy, but useless stuff.

Wanted

2011-10-28 18:30:38

From: mastaraymond
I was aiming at the fact that SRL's login.scar worked perfectly without it.

I can add lots of fancy stuff to SRL and then brag about it, but where does that get me in the end? That's the whole mistake SCAR keeps making (bah Simba vs SCAR discussion), adding fancy, but useless stuff.


It's more than just adding fancy stuff, it's removing useless crap, and fixing broken crap.

If you think all SRL is lacking is fancy extra than you're more hopeless than I thought. Even wizzup admits SRL 4 is "broken as fuck".

Nava2

2011-10-28 18:46:26

Opening since SSRL threads should not be closed.

Wanted

2011-10-28 18:47:27

From: Nava2
Opening since SSRL threads should not be closed.


Or you all could just let this thread die so you don't have to hear about OSI anymore, because if you did there's somewhere else you could hear about it plenty.

Nava2

2011-10-28 18:49:13

From: Wanted
Or you all could just let this thread die so you don't have to hear about OSI anymore, because if you did there's somewhere else you could hear about it plenty.


Or I could just uphold the rules like I have been designated to do, just as you could abide by them.

Wanted

2011-10-28 18:53:15

From: Nava2
Or I could just uphold the rules like I have been designated to do, just as you could abide by them.


If I remember correctly advertisement is not allowed
I refuse to advertise OSI here
But I refuse to have people make stupid comments about it. Either allow free discussion of it or restrict it completely.

So why doesn't SRL do something that actually makes sense and close the thread and stop bringing it back up or remove its silly rules to restrict OSI discussion and advertisement.

BraK

2011-10-28 19:01:47

The thread was opened because some SSRL people reported it and you and MOD+ were still going at it anyway. It's better off left open for everyone to post.

Wanted

2011-10-28 19:05:34

From: BraK
The thread was opened because some SSRL people reported it and you and MOD+ were still going at it anyway. It's better off left open for everyone to post.


It's closed because I don't want to discuss it here at all, but I am being forced to because people want to keep opening it/post on it.

So lets just let this thread die..

Wizzup?

2011-10-28 19:52:53

Do you have asperger syndrome?

You make a thread, direct it at me and Coh3n, then you think you can just close it. If you want to see the thread die, don't reply. I have no intention to let this thread die just yet, as it's laughable to everyone in this board, you are now our clown. (no, not by rank) Doesn't that hurt you? You once liked most of us, you were part of this community, you're throwing it all away.

You create thread for discussion and then think you can just silent people. You know what, you're way worse than anything you ever called me. People occasionally just have to react to your (always) provocative posts; they provide valid arguments and you just completely disregard them and make something else up.

I solely responded because you forced me to: "even wizzup says srl 4 is broken as fuck". lol?

Eventually people just get tired. Now, everyone is tired of you. Don't you see that no one is standing up for you? Why? Because they don't want you here anymore.

I can see why you'd want to see it die, though. (If you were an even slightly clever man you would not even reply to this - prove me wrong.)

I don't even know why I am typing this right now - I suppose for historical correction. I have purposely not responded to this thread just yet, simply because I am tired… oh so tired of your bullshit.

From: Wanted
If I remember correctly advertisement is not allowed
I refuse to advertise OSI here


Good. I think we're done here. You don't have anything else to demand, because you're not in charge. Now, before you lose everything here - I don't care if you don't care now - leave. Go your own way and leave us alone.

Home

2011-11-01 12:59:18

I do stand up for Wanted. He is extremely nice guy.

And I'm happy that his developing OSI. It's going to be fine include. (When it's finished of course)


But these flaming wars are so damn pointless. Grow up people.


~Home

Wanted

2011-11-01 13:09:56

Why is this unlocked? =/

I agree this got out of hand, and a lot of you may feel alienated, though I do appreciate it, I really don't need people standing up for me.

My reputation here is one thing… no need for anyone else to feel the need to defend me in some way if they feel will have an adverse affect on their image.

It's quite noble how many people defend SRL just for the sake of defending SRL… but this thread, and painful topic, is over.

Gu3st...

2011-11-01 16:40:18

From: Wanted
but this thread, and painful topic, is over.
I find it quite odd that you've posted over and over again about "letting this thread die" and yet you show up to post in the thread each and every time someone else posts, even though their post wasn't even directed at you… If you want a thread to die, then it would be a good idea to stop posting in it.