RSBuddy is making progress
Camaro'
2011-10-26 20:40:34
RSBuddy is making progress.
Edit: I'm not sure if its released to the public yet.
http://rsbuddy.com/forum/game-update-25th-october-169429.html
noidea
2011-10-26 20:41:35
Damn it.
Harry
2011-10-26 20:42:22
"running with limited functionality".
kingarabian
2011-10-26 20:43:31
My ass and very misleading title.
People you have to realize they are a business and not a community. They have many users who purchased there bots, so of course they need to say something to keep them happy. Jacmob was in the MITB irc asking for help earlier. He also states that his bot is in limited functionality (it could basically mean the bot just loads the game). Benland100 and others have said this update is pretty rugged and it will take months to figure something out. iBot/Nexus themselves have said to not expect any updates in the near future and they are much more advanced than Rsbuddy.
TomTuff
2011-10-26 20:43:38
Ugh…
Brandon
2011-10-26 20:43:56
Bro Jacmob will be GODLY if he can bot in this world:

P.S. Look at my position in QUEUE… That's just the amount of ppl trying to get in to do penguins… and distractions & diversions..
Putnam
2011-10-26 20:55:42
From: kingarabian
My ass and very misleading title.
People you have to realize they are a business and not a community. They have many users who purchased there bots, so of course they need to say something to keep them happy. Jacmob was in the MITB irc asking for help earlier. He also states that his bot is in limited functionality (it could basically mean the bot just loads the game). Benland100 and others have said this update is pretty rugged and it will take months to figure something out. iBot/Nexus themselves have said to not expect any updates in the near future and they are much more advanced than Rsbuddy.
This. They're probably in about the same if not worse state as we are in, Reflection is gone and iirc they don't have any color scripts. All they probably have is what we have with SMART, being able to just load the client. I highly doubt they'll figure out how to do anything before iBot does.
Jakkle
2011-10-26 21:00:32
funny thing is I was just reading this on rsbuddy before I came and seen it here. Should not of out that as the title tho :p misleading.
We are much better off and once all bugs are ironed out in MSI we will then have loads of scripts to chose from again, for now.
Method
2011-10-26 21:02:45
From: kingarabian
Jacmob was in the MITB irc asking for help earlier. He also states that his bot is in limited functionality (it could basically mean the bot just loads the game).
No, he was in the IRC channel talking with everyone else about the update. He doesn't expect people to rewrite his updater or fix the bot for him.
As for your comment about limited functionality, that's probably the most accurate claim that you make. When I talked with him yesterday, he was working on hooking the bare essentials to have the bot run the client properly. Given the amount of experience he has with the RS client and the progress that I saw him make yesterday, I don't think it's unfeasible to say that that event has already happened or will happen very shortly.
Regarding your other comments about the process taking months to complete and that iBot developers are "more advanced" than Jacmob, neither are true.
kingarabian
2011-10-26 21:07:16
From: Method
No, he was in the IRC channel talking with everyone else about the update. He doesn't expect people to rewrite his updater or fix the bot for him.
As for your comment about limited functionality, that's probably the most accurate claim that you make. When I talked with him yesterday, he was working on hooking the bare essentials to have the bot run the client properly. Given the amount of experience he has with the RS client and the progress that I saw him make yesterday, I don't think it's unfeasible to say that that event has already happened or will happen very shortly.
Regarding your other comments about the process taking months to complete and that iBot developers are "more advanced" than Jacmob, neither are true.
Well if you are correct then… that really sucks. Trilez however, has already begun to get hooks slowly, but there are still other factors.
I still call a lot of bluff.
Camaro'
2011-10-26 21:11:12
I reported my post to have the title changed.
pyroryan
2011-10-26 23:04:23
From: kingarabian
Well if you are correct then… that really sucks. Trilez however, has already begun to get hooks slowly, but there are still other factors.
I still call a lot of bluff.
TRiLeZ had 25 hooks done in a few hours. I'm working on getting a full/complete deob so we'll be able to work together. We're at the stage where there are 2 non-decompilable methods. I'm going to finish homework and hopefully work more on integration of the deobbers (currently have them spread out over two projects).
DeSnob
2011-10-26 23:05:38
Is there any possibility that they might be tracking the use of the loader?
kingarabian
2011-10-26 23:43:25
From: pyroryan
TRiLeZ had 25 hooks done in a few hours. I'm working on getting a full/complete deob so we'll be able to work together. We're at the stage where there are 2 non-decompilable methods. I'm going to finish homework and hopefully work more on integration of the deobbers (currently have them spread out over two projects).
Okay interesting. Do you think after you fully deob the client you will have a clearer idea on how to get a working updater?
Coh3n
2011-10-27 03:09:15
From: Jacmob
I would like to point out that my intentions for RSBuddy do not include supporting gold farming companies with mass botting software. If we have reason to believe that the overuse of RSBuddy for gold farming is having a serious impact on gameplay then I may take technical measures to prevent the use of RSBuddy in this way. We are happy for you to use RSBuddy to progress your accounts, but we do not expect you to register large numbers of 'throw away' accounts with which to fill the game.
Bet he's working with Jagex. :stirthepot:
josh81193
2011-10-27 07:26:16
From: Coh3n
Bet he's working with Jagex. :stirthepot:
Or he realizes it's the mass bot armies that are goldfarming that ruins the gameplay, as opposed to people botting on (for example) their main or their pure just for personal gain.
Jakkle
2011-10-27 08:05:44
From: josh81193
Or he realizes it's the mass bot armies that are goldfarming that ruins the gameplay, as opposed to people botting on (for example) their main or their pure just for personal gain.
This.
kingarabian
2011-10-27 12:28:41
Rsbot says they need 14-28 days.
Coh3n
2011-10-27 13:19:13
From: josh81193
Or he realizes it's the mass bot armies that are goldfarming that ruins the gameplay, as opposed to people botting on (for example) their main or their pure just for personal gain.
Lol yes, I know. ;) I was messing around.
Heavenzeyez1
2011-10-27 14:18:47
From: kingarabian
Rsbot says they need 14-28 days.
And after that they need more time, no? :)
~Eerik.
Dynamite
2011-10-27 18:03:15
From: ggzz
Bro Jacmob will be GODLY if he can bot in this world:

P.S. Look at my position in QUEUE… That's just the amount of ppl trying to get in to do penguins… and distractions & diversions..
Umm i don't think that's the reason xD
There is/was some sort of protest by one of the botting groups in world 60.
-Boom
Mr. Bottomtooth
2011-10-27 18:38:11
From: Dynamite
Umm i don't think that's the reason xD
There is/was some sort of protest by one of the botting groups in world 60.
Protesting… For what? Let bots back in? Lol?
Heavenzeyez1
2011-10-27 19:13:28
Umm, I'm sure it was because of the penguins. :)
~Eerik.
blabla7
2011-10-29 12:05:41
From: Heavenzeyez1
And after that they need more time, no? :)
~Eerik.
Like they always do.
I do not expect any of the java bots to be updated within a month
Jakkle
2011-11-01 20:52:49
I just had a look at the situation of RSB and I seen this.
What do people make of it ?

Seems like hes saying that hes got it all figured out ?
[XoL]
2011-11-01 23:55:33
Wait till it works for a day, and jagex sets off another nuke (According to jagex they have another one, prob a bluff)
kingarabian
2011-11-02 01:01:56
From: Jakkle
I just had a look at the situation of RSB and I seen this.
What do people make of it ?

Seems like hes saying that hes got it all figured out ?
It's a bluff.
****** told me Jacmob himself does not even know when Rsbuddy will be back.
Flight
2011-11-02 01:16:00
From: kingarabian
It's a bluff.
Pyroryan told me Jacmob himself does not even know when Rsbuddy will be back.
Of course. If he just came out and said he can't fix RsBuddy then he'd have some serious customer issues on his hands. It'd be much easier to
say the update is soon on its way, even throw out a timer just to please people, and when that timer runs out make up another excuse to buy time. Maybe something like "before we could launch a public release, Jagex changed the client again, blah blah blah". It's easy to say anything when you have nothing to show for.
kingarabian
2011-11-02 01:47:56
From: Flight
Of course. If he just came out and said he can't fix RsBuddy then he'd have some serious customer issues on his hands. It'd be much easier to say the update is soon on its way, even throw out a timer just to please people, and when that timer runs out make up another excuse to buy time. Maybe something like "before we could launch a public release, Jagex changed the client again, blah blah blah". It's easy to say anything when you have nothing to show for.
Exacto! Same thing I'm thinking, and I spread this all over Sythe only to get flamed :spot:. But little do they know my friend…that there playing with fire.:fiery:
pyroryan
2011-11-02 02:04:29
You forgot the according to Eric part. To take information being spread around in private is definitely playing with fire. Let the events unfold.
Anyways, I'm sure Jacmob has a general time frame and is more than capable of updating. Given what I know about him, I'm sure he'll be able to adhere generally to the timer. Obviously there will be issues that show up that aren't predicted. Its certainly a possibility that he will not update when the timer hits 0 and theres a possibility that he will. If Eric is right, then RSBuddy will not update. We'll see in a few days time.
kingarabian
2011-11-02 02:13:34
From: pyroryan
You forgot the according to Eric part. To take information being spread around in private is definitely playing with fire. Let the events unfold.
Anyways, I'm sure Jacmob has a general time frame and is more than capable of updating. Given what I know about him, I'm sure he'll be able to adhere generally to the timer. Obviously there will be issues that show up that aren't predicted. Its certainly a possibility that he will not update when the timer hits 0 and theres a possibility that he will. If Eric is right, then RSBuddy will not update. We'll see in a few days time.
Sorry to mention you. But who is "Eric"?
Harry
2011-11-02 02:33:42
Eric Snellman.
Markus
2011-11-02 10:28:11
Aka ruler
John S
2011-11-02 10:43:07
I doubt that those bots will be back up within the timer…Yeah, it's probably just to pacify the payin' customers. If they do get them back up within that time, it'd be a miracle.
Method
2011-11-02 10:44:00
It'll be fun to see how everyone reacts when the countdown ends.
euphemism
2011-11-02 10:56:32
I personally don't know enough of how the client works to make an educated statement, but pyroryan seems to think Jacmob can do it? Regardless, waiting is the best way to find out.
onilika
2011-11-02 11:25:28
Do not want to be in the skin of Jacmob. The entire community of bots paid (RSBuddy) depends on him. At this point, Jacmob must have an enormous pressure on his shoulders.
He only has two choices: either to solve the problem of RSbuddy or will have a rage community upon him. And that mightcomplicate things.
A wise thing would be, if he can not fix the problem, he should return the money and end with RSbuddy. Giving false hopes won't take him anywhere. He'll just get some more time. I wish him the best, thought.
mormonman
2011-11-02 14:53:02
From: onilika
Do not want to be in the skin of Jacmob. The entire community of bots paid (RSBuddy) depends on him. At this point, Jacmob must have an enormous pressure on his shoulders.
He only has two choices: either to solve the problem of RSbuddy or will have a rage community upon him. And that mightcomplicate things.
A wise thing would be, if he can not fix the problem, he should return the money and end with RSbuddy. Giving false hopes won't take him anywhere. He'll just get some more time. I wish him the best, thought.
Why should he ever have to return the money…?
onilika
2011-11-02 14:54:55
If he doesn't fix the problem, people might start demanding their money. Just though, nothing more else.
senrath
2011-11-02 14:56:19
And if they start demanding their money back, he can just point them to the terms they agreed to when they paid him.
mormonman
2011-11-02 14:56:48
From: senrath
And if they start demanding their money back, he can just point them to the terms they agreed to when they paid him.
Exactly. He wasn't selling a lifetime service. He was selling auths for as long as they work.
onilika
2011-11-02 14:58:59
So I owe an apology for this misunderstanding
pyroryan
2011-11-02 15:14:44
From: onilika
Do not want to be in the skin of Jacmob. The entire community of bots paid (RSBuddy) depends on him. At this point, Jacmob must have an enormous pressure on his shoulders.
He only has two choices: either to solve the problem of RSbuddy or will have a rage community upon him. And that mightcomplicate things.
A wise thing would be, if he can not fix the problem, he should return the money and end with RSbuddy. Giving false hopes won't take him anywhere. He'll just get some more time. I wish him the best, thought.
The question isn't whether he can fix it. He can. Its more about whether he has the time to fix it before the timer hits 0.
Wizzup?
2011-11-02 15:17:50
The question is: Why did he even create that timer.
senrath
2011-11-02 15:19:09
Maybe he feels he works better under pressure and/or with a deadline?
mormonman
2011-11-02 15:22:02
Maybe for the off chance he does finish. Then everyone loves him.
onilika
2011-11-02 15:23:37
I think he shouldn't have created a timer, tbh. When reaches the deadline, all what we would want to know is: He did before the time expired or didn't he?
Now, like senrath says, he likes to work under pressure? Because, if so, he is, definitely, under pressure, right now.
But, oh well…2 days till we get some more news about the 'health' of reflection bots.
From: Wizzup?
The question is: Why did he even create that timer.
So people would stop bitching of when it's coming back.
Also note Rsbot and Rsbuddy are combining on this day.
It also helps scriptors out since I've been doing re-writing most of the week.
Method
2011-11-03 10:48:47
From: wyn10
So people would stop bitching of when it's coming back.
Also note Rsbot and Rsbuddy are combining on this day.
It also helps scriptors out since I've been doing re-writing most of the week.
No, RSBot and RSBuddy are not "combining".
From: Method
No, RSBot and RSBuddy are not "combining".
What I heard.
From: Wizzup?
The question is: Why did he even create that timer.
Yes, I asked him on IRC - he refused to give a direct answer.
onilika
2011-11-03 14:32:14
From: Method
No, RSBot and RSBuddy are not "combining".
So…are they combining or not? You guys have a trust source :confused:
mastaraymond
2011-11-03 17:44:22
He'll just completely disappear when that timer ends, fooled ya all!
Tickyy
2011-11-03 22:55:27
From: mastaraymond
He'll just completely disappear when that timer ends, fooled ya all!
made me lol :p
John S
2011-11-04 13:09:14
Popo009
2011-11-04 13:15:38
From: mastaraymond
He'll just completely disappear when that timer ends, fooled ya all!
Good guess, you knew it all along, dident you?
Bubix
2011-11-04 13:24:19
hehe sweet, atleast im sticikng with greatest comunity ever :P
Flight
2011-11-04 13:25:47
From: John S
Turns out that RSBuddy's gone.
http://rsbuddy.com/forum/recent-developments-moving-bots-174891.html
"Goodfight" is all I have to say. +1 to Jagex.
Jakkle
2011-11-04 13:27:32
Well looks like rsbuddy is over.
I can't get on rsbuddy to see anything either.
Here are a few threads over at powerbot.
http://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/616471-j-quits-gf-buddys/http://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/616467-the-end-of-r/http://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/616466-r-countdown-vs-jagex-system-update/Looks like we are all thats left ;) well done SRL I think this is a blessing for us as we will be able to put up a fight against Jagex. With all the great programmers/scripters we have here in our lovely community we should be able to over come any update. :)
WT-Fakawi posted a new thread just after I did this so further talks about this on this thread please
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67495