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What do you guys think of this?

http://services.runescape.com/m=news/c=wZjFwcHk80w/bot-busting-and-bonuses-for-all

Some quotes from the post:

"Today, I am really happy to say we are in the long-awaited position of being able to announce that we’ll be launching our most formidable bot-busting weapon in our history, targeting what we believe to be 98% of the bots seen in game."

"The project, code-named the ‘ClusterFlutterer’, will be launched as part of the RuneScape game update on Tuesday the 25th October permanently preventing “reflection” bots from working again."

Discuss. :S

Gf reflection
Suck it java bots :D

From: litoris
Gf reflection
Suck it java bots :D

we use reflection too….what r u so happy about :redface:
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ha! called it in a post like 2 days ago. in anycase, im gona finish botting my agility, and then im gona stop until things die down. not even gona wait till the 25th. just to be safe…to any1 who hates a skill, i recomend u bot the fk out of it while u still can.

wb colors. we missed u!

the only thing they can legally do against reflection is take away the labeling so we wont be able to use it am i right? (i dont think i am)…

they said stop ref bots from working, doesnt mean detect em? in anycase we dont inject like java does? sooo do u think ref will be ok for us?

btw….were about to get a fk ton more members for srl.

if wt-fakawi or wizz or neilsie can gather some statistics in the next month or so id love to see em haha.

Won't they ban who previously botted? :x

If this is the case, we should all pool together over the next 4 days and get MSI colour locations etc done.

I won't bot for now lol
Time to play legit!

also…that 3x experience in slayer… wow! I can now get 99 slayer and get maxed at same day! :)

From: UNKNOWN69
Won't they ban who previously botted? :x

i fkn hope not. i JUST like 3 days ago started to use java bots.

From: UNKNOWN69
I won't bot for now lol
Time to play legit!

also…that 3x experience in slayer… wow! I can now get 99 slayer and get maxed at same day! :)

if u were that close to maxed why didnt u just do it already lol? 3 days worth of worth of work?

At the same time, we will be removing the ‘unsigned’ method of loading the game. Unsigned mode gives poor performance for players and is a confusing fall back for when the game crashes or suffers compatibility problems. Additionally, it holds back our ability to provide better graphics, sound and game play for the vast majority of players using the normal game client (more than 99.5% of our player base).

Hah.

Not that most people used unsigned here anyways, http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59019 is a good read.

ALL botted items are going crazy… Just made 200m in 5 minutes with furies. Bought instant for 6.2m sold back 5 minutes later 8.6m each. Lol. I suggest people don't do this though since it's really risky atm. Prices going up and down by 5-10% in minutes.

We have also recently detected and banned over 1.5 million botting and gold farming accounts.

I've never gotten an account banned with TRiBot. :)

I can't wait for Tuesday to see what Jagex has in hand. I doubt they'll be able to stop me. :stirthepot:

From: Mr. Bottomtooth
ALL botted items are going crazy… Just made 200m in 5 minutes with furies. Bought instant for 6.2m sold back 5 minutes later 8.6m each. Lol. I suggest people don't do this though since it's really risky atm. Prices going up and down by 5-10% in minutes.

wow…i wish i has money…. how the fk are furries botted tho?

edit:dude buy a sht load of d bones. ull make soo much

Interesting indeed.

From: chitin
dude buy a sht load of d bones. ull make soo much

They are too cheap with a small limit :S D bones are +3.2k each already and I don't see them going over 4k. 10k of them per 4 hours is only 10-20m profit max before they reach ~4k, and there are items that can give a lot more than that if you just have buying power.

EDIT. D bones are over 3.6k already…. haha crazy

Colour shall prevail!

From: chitin
i fkn hope not. i JUST like 3 days ago started to use java bots.



if u were that close to maxed why didnt u just do it already lol? 3 days worth of worth of work?

Here is the deal … I'm 3m exp away from getting maxed. Yes, 1m for attack, str and defense.

I'm 94 slayer only. But have tons of effigies. But still, need like 10 to go frlom 96-99 slayer. So, with that bonus, I pretend to get the maximum of exp slayer on that day, so I keep a far distance from getting maxed.

Something like that..

Looks like color is the future of rs macroing, and we can expect hyper inflation and the value of the GP to go up.

I say we all work together on a soulwars bot in color so on friday when the zeal you get is tripled we can really capitalize on it.

"Friday:

Soul Wars day: Players will receive triple the usual amount of zeal points."

Instead of ~8 an hour zeal, we would get 24. That's a lot of XP.

From: Jagex
Today, I am really happy to say we are in the long-awaited position of being able to announce that we’ll be launching our most formidable bot-busting weapon in our history, targeting what we believe to be 98% of the bots seen in game.

Any guesses at who the other 2% are?

~RM

From: Sir R. M8gic1an
Any guesses at who the other 2% are?

~RM

Probably RiD, not SRL.

[QUOTE=Camaro';836281]I say we all work together on a soulwars bot in color so on friday when the zeal you get is tripled we can really capitalize on it.

"Friday:

Soul Wars day: Players will receive triple the usual amount of zeal points."

Instead of ~8 an hour zeal, we would get 24. That's a lot of XP.

Now we can all get 100 zeal points in no time, for jad pet!

From: Mr. Bottomtooth
ALL botted items are going crazy… Just made 200m in 5 minutes with furies. Bought instant for 6.2m sold back 5 minutes later 8.6m each. Lol. I suggest people don't do this though since it's really risky atm. Prices going up and down by 5-10% in minutes.

You'd have to buy like 80+ furies for that and you can only buy 10 every 4 hours.


It's interesting to see how well they can prevent reflection methods and can they prevent injection at all..

How about open-gl hooking?

From: weequ
You'd have to buy like 80+ furies for that and you can only buy 10 every 4 hours.

The limit for furies is 100. And I bought 100, which is 240m profit.

RiD is going to have a blast with this. And well deserved at that. It's probably the best colour based bot I've ever come across.

If they manage to stop reflection bots at all.

Ahaha, the day has finally come that they stopped Java bots. Perhaps this new update will entice me to begin scripting again

From: Floor66
RiD is going to have a blast with this. And well deserved at that. It's probably the best colour based bot I've ever come across.

I tried RiD once. It was terrible. Couldn't even find the ore when I followed their steps correctly and was in a supported location.

From: Harry
I tried RiD once. It was terrible. Couldn't even find the ore when I followed their steps correctly and was in a supported location.

Same here. It's just a over-hyped bot with a nice mouse moving procedure. Nothing big really

I've used its' MTA and PC bots for hundreds of hours, making me good amounts of GP, with only seldom the slightest of hiccups. I do agree, you have to follow a certain set of rules in order to use it properly, but once you've got it working, it's a great bot.

This "over-hyped bot with a nice mouse moving procedure" is the exact description of what people would look for in a bot. You could describe an iPhone as an "over-hyped phone with a nice interface", millions of people use it nevertheless. Also, I've suggested that we, as SRL, create a mouse procedure alike but never once did anyone really pick that up. Our loss.

I have not tried their mining bot so I don't have an opinion about it. Saying "RiD is really unfair. If it was, nobody would be using it.

This may just mark a new era for java bots, I can't wait to see what some of the developers came up with and how client hackers decide to counter it. And if they do "permanently" break java bots, then people will be forced to bot with color, which isn't that bad either. I'm actually excited for this update :)

Time to get this bitch back on track lol, I really want to see Jagex messing up their client to the state where making an "Updater" is unfeasible, and people will be flooding here :D

(They named their project ClusterFlutterer which sounds like the client will look like a clusterfuck on the inside)

We have the mouse changes.. also, if you want more RiD like mousing, just mess with the parameters in WindMouse.

Oh, and fun fact.. Most bots use BenLand's algorithm. :)

From: Wizzup?
If they manage to stop reflection bots at all.

hmm i doubt they would say such a thing without being 100% sure. seeing as if they do fail they will get some heavy heat from players. theyre player base is already falling (real playes :p) so i dont think theyde risk such a thing. of course on the other hand…if a bunch of flagged accounts all of a sudden stop doing their usual routines, well that might flag them even more and jagex would have won with reverse psychology?:stirthepot:

If they do manage to break Reflection, I guess it's back to the good ol' days of colour! :D

They aren't just aimed at reflection based bots. They claim to be able to stop all injection bots too.

FUCK YES!

Look no offense to all you reflection dev's out there, I appreciate your work and everything, but Runescape has become literally unplayable. You can't play legit anymore. You can't be happy with any accomplishment you do legitly because there are bots that can do what you just did. Rsbot, Rsbuddy, iBot/Nexus, and all those gold farmers really put a dent into playing RS.

I welcome this update Jagex, even If my accounts are part of this ban I do welcome it. If Jagex isn't bull shitting, then it's back to color :).

From: kingarabian
I welcome this update Jagex, even If my accounts are part of this ban I do welcome it. If Jagex isn't bull shitting, then it's back to color :).

Samesies. I for one liked color more than Reflection. Reflection pretty much took the challenge out of scripting, I thought searching for colors and finding the right tolerance was not only tedious, but strangely quite entertaining. Reflection took all that away with simple object IDs. I've been planning on getting back into scripting, and with this update I just might. ;)

From: ReadySteadyGo
If this is the case, we should all pool together over the next 4 days and get MSI colour locations etc done.

Every MSI script works in colour with the exception of Runecrafting (and I plan to fix that in the near future).

I'm really looking forward to see how this turns out. :)

[QUOTE=Camaro';836281]I say we all work together on a soulwars bot in color so on friday when the zeal you get is tripled we can really capitalize on it.

"Friday:

Soul Wars day: Players will receive triple the usual amount of zeal points."

Instead of ~8 an hour zeal, we would get 24. That's a lot of XP.

im with camaro

From: mormonman
They aren't just aimed at reflection based bots. They claim to be able to stop all injection bots too.

Stopping injection bots is prob easier to do anyways, all they have to do is check for classes implementing extra interfaces (hooks) and containing extra methods (accessor methods).

Whatever way they do it, I won't be surprised if someone finds a way around it. We've already proven that OpenGL hooking is possible, so I imaging that will be the next generation of botting, unless they plan to stop that at the same time.

From: Echo_
Stopping injection bots is prob easier to do anyways, all they have to do is check for classes implementing extra interfaces (hooks) and containing extra methods (accessor methods).

You do realize that those same bots that would be detected can prevent that technique from working, right?

From: Method
You do realize that those same bots that would be detected can prevent that technique from working, right?

Explain plz?

From: Echo_
Explain plz?

If you understand that the bots work by injecting code into the client, the next logical step would be to realize that they could modify any code in the client, including code that might look for specific interfaces or class members. Intercepting any suspicious call or making sure the client can't tell the difference between the regular client and a modified client is trivial from there.

From: Method
If you understand that the bots work by injecting code into the client, the next logical step would be to realize that they could modify any code in the client, including code that might look for specific interfaces or class members. Intercepting any suspicious call or making sure the client can't tell the difference between the regular client and a modified client is trivial from there.

That's true I suppose, that sort of check would have to be client-sided after all. So then code could be injected to send fake reports back to the server.

From: Coh3n
Whatever way they do it, I won't be surprised if someone finds a way around it. We've already proven that OpenGL hooking is possible, so I imaging that will be the next generation of botting, unless they plan to stop that at the same time.

Thing is… We are the only community that made advancements in OpenGL hooking. Either way, Java bots will be down for a while after these upcoming updates, lots of people will be banned so expect a raise in prices. Jagex really sounds serious this time with them saying they found a way to nerf reflection bots for good.

From: Method
If you understand that the bots work by injecting code into the client, the next logical step would be to realize that they could modify any code in the client, including code that might look for specific interfaces or class members. Intercepting any suspicious call or making sure the client can't tell the difference between the regular client and a modified client is trivial from there.

and then they would implement check looking for code that checks on changes, but then the others would implement a check that checks the code looking for the code checking on changes, and so on and so on? :P

From: kingarabian
Thing is… We are the only community that made advancements in OpenGL hooking. Either way, Java bots will be down for a while after these upcoming updates, lots of people will be banned so expect a raise in prices. Jagex really sounds serious this time with them saying they found a way to nerf reflection bots for good.

Yeah I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

That's some statements they're making there. Let's see what they've got up their sleeves :)

From: TRiLeZ
I've never gotten an account banned with TRiBot. :)

I can't wait for Tuesday to see what Jagex has in hand. I doubt they'll be able to stop me. :stirthepot:

I hope that they will stop Nexus, PB, RsBudy and other rips offs. Never TriBot ;)


~Home

I hope.it stops them all the only not I've ever used was simba. ( didn't not Bot in the scar days)

Hey! Jagex! Leave those bots alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.

main's clan war fighter lives on!

i want to see this community being back to its original active (dominant) state again :D

Well I'll be getting members for the slayer xp.. as for dung, I haven't used my idung since I got it… well now I'm screwed I guess.. Oh well.

Yes jagex is serious.. they wouldn't make bonus thing if they weren't.. as for how? Iunno but I think they might just put some uber leet jagex custom obfuscation to stop injection LOL.. dunno how to stop reflection though.. As for colour, they'd have to make shit black and white.. OR they can implement something like night time and daytime in runescape.. every day, the colours would change a bit.. or they can implement all hours of the day..

Example: morning, midmorning-lunch, lunch, afternoon, mid afternoon, evening, late-evening, night, dead of the night, early morning, mid-early, and repeat.. That would definitely f*** colour bots I THINK.. as the colours of shit would change quite a lot!

~Home

From: ggzz
Well I'll be getting members for the slayer xp.. as for dung, I haven't used my idung since I got it… well now I'm screwed I guess.. Oh well.

Yes jagex is serious.. they wouldn't make bonus thing if they weren't.. as for how? Iunno but I think they might just put some uber leet jagex custom obfuscation to stop injection LOL.. dunno how to stop reflection though.. As for colour, they'd have to make shit black and white.. OR they can implement something like night time and daytime in runescape.. every day, the colours would change a bit.. or they can implement all hours of the day..

Example: morning, midmorning-lunch, lunch, afternoon, mid afternoon, evening, late-evening, night, dead of the night, early morning, mid-early, and repeat.. That would definitely f*** colour bots I THINK.. as the colours of shit would change quite a lot!

ggzz…stop giving ideas! LOL Jagex might use them :b

I don't think ggzz idea would stop us. Anything recognizeadble for human is recognizeable for computer. We already use tolerances and we have autocoloring techniques.

From: Nava2
We have the mouse changes.. also, if you want more RiD like mousing, just mess with the parameters in WindMouse.

Oh, and fun fact.. Most bots use BenLand's algorithm. :)

Yes, and I've seen some really neat results modifying only just the wind and gravity of WindMouse, it's what I made an old anti-ban from.

As far as my opinions go…

Bummed that I won't be releasing my 200k FM XP/hour root-burner or my X-Fighter 1.1, or even my beta use of models for Agility-runners, but I absolutely think this is worth it! I'd rather give up my small advantage and take away "98%" of everyone else's as well. Besides, this is only a temporary stop to scripts being released here, in no time we'll see a huge interest in color from a mass of people, think about that!

Ah… TPAs, DDTMs, Bitmaps, SPS, MSI…. Sounds greeeeeat. Although, I wonder if this means the end of SMART?

Any of you guys investing in any bot made products? If so which ones? If Jagex isnt blowing smoke, the GE is going to be ALL over the place for the next few days. Also, are you guys going to bot 24/7 for the weekend, and mabye get the last use out of reflection? or play it safe and play legit for a bit? I want to know your plan.

From: Flight
Although, I wonder if this means the end of SMART?

Why do you think that?

Well I'll prob bot just a little bit.. Not much like this idiot:

From: CaptainCraven
Any of you guys investing in any bot made products? If so which ones? If Jagex isnt blowing smoke, the GE is going to be ALL over the place for the next few days. Also, are you guys going to bot 24/7 for the weekend, and mabye get the last use out of reflection? or play it safe and play legit for a bit? I want to know your plan.

Yes, but the sad thing is you're already late. Prices skyrocketed within minutes of the announcement of this upcoming update. Anyways stuff that I put my money in (I've already dumped most): furies, onyx amulets, dragonfire shields, herbs, yew logs, sharks, dragon bones, whips.

Phats(red, yellow, purple especially), disks, santas, hweens, eggs, pretty much rares all across the board are crashing atm, so that's certainly something to look into once the market stabilizes.

From: CaptainCraven
Any of you guys investing in any bot made products? If so which ones? If Jagex isnt blowing smoke, the GE is going to be ALL over the place for the next few days. Also, are you guys going to bot 24/7 for the weekend, and mabye get the last use out of reflection? or play it safe and play legit for a bit? I want to know your plan.

24/7'ing this shit. idgaf My pure is at 160k tokens, I need 400k for the 3 prayers. I don't even want to do the math to see if it's possible for me to get that by Tuesday, I just know it'll be close.. Also trying to get a good amount of extra tokens on my main so I'm not afraid to risk arcane stream.

We'll see what they have planned when they update :P.

Oh and:
http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/c=sX-40WHN8D0/forums.ws?15,16,791,63289799,goto,4
"We're busy actually writing the update :P"
-Mod Chris E

From: weequ
I don't think ggzz idea would stop us. Anything recognizeadble for human is recognizeable for computer. We already use tolerances and we have autocoloring techniques.

+1
The game will always be playable by humans. We mimic human interactions with the game. Therefore, we will never be stopped.

Get ready for a huge influx of spammers, noobs, and annoying teens coming to our wonderful color forums.
But also! Fresh blood to teach scripting to! New SRL Members, more scripts!

We should get any flawless epic color scripts out of the public section though (if there even are any…) and put them into membs+ As nice as it is to have tons of new people join SRL we do want to keep the leechers and raping to a minimum… Maybe go back to the "No Banking Scripts in Public Section" standards?

I really hope making money in F2P will be possible again!!! :spot:

^ We do have one:p

Whoa whoa people easy easy. Let's not get on the high horse yet. Keep the scripts how they are. It's not like on Tuesday 30k new members will go straight to SRL.

made a post advertising srl as an alternative to reflection based bots hopefully google indexes it on time xD ..

http://www.tancosin.com/2011/10/runescape-reflection-bot-alternatives.html

Anyone want my old colour scripts folder? :P

From: Floor66
Anyone want my old colour scripts folder? :P

Depending on the effort you put into them, you might consider posting them in the members+ section.

OpenGL would be the next step forward imo.

We'll probably go back to having some members only MSI scripts if this update works as planed; which I really hope it does honestly.

GL Jagex…

Ha, interesting, might get me back, muahaha!

I might actually start scripting again if this is the case. I love Reflection, but there are just too many bots in the free areas to get anything done.

I've been waiting for this update for quite some time now, hopefully they manage to implement it without screwing everything up. Long live the war between bots and JaGex. :) It's about time they started to fight back.

I'll probebly play runescape legit again if they nerf most bots.

From: subin
made a post advertising srl as an alternative to reflection based bots hopefully google indexes it on time xd ..

http://www.tancosin.com/2011/10/runescape-reflection-bot-alternatives.html

neat!

If this bot buster actually works, Jagex will have a lot more resources to put into preventing color bots from working. Remember that.

From: dragx55
If this bot buster actually works, Jagex will have a lot more resources to put into preventing color bots from working. Remember that.

More challenge for us ;)


~Home

I find it stupid that they ask the public for help when they've apparently been planning this for quite some time.. Trying to build up morale for the legit players :p? Honestly I'm really looking forward to what they have in store for us.

Hmm sucks, ah well we all had a good run!

I'm currently investing the sh!t outta nats, these thing are going to bl()w Up DawGG.

Trying to buy 600k of em' now :D

Ive been buying whips all day for like 600k, hoping they will go up to 3m again but thats a stretch.

From: Big Tom
Ive been buying whips all day for like 600k, hoping they will go up to 3m again but thats a stretch.

Not gonna happen. Why? Because they don't disappear from the game anymore like they used to in pvp/bh.

All botters are selling their santas, partyhats and all those rares that costs a fortune.
Now, my santa is crashing like we've never seen. Hope it rises again..

From: UNKNOWN69
All botters are selling their santas, partyhats and all those rares that costs a fortune.
Now, my santa is crashing like we've never seen. Hope it rises again..

It's the people who sold their rares to panic buy into botted goods to make a quick buck who started the crash. And it was continued by normal panic and price manipulators at w2. But Santa is looking better already.

From: Mr. Bottomtooth
It's the people who sold their rares to panic buy into botted goods to make a quick buck who started the crash. And it was continued by normal panic and price manipulators at w2. But Santa is looking better already.

I would sell it if keeps crashing, and buy it again when stabilizes..

From: UNKNOWN69
I would sell it if keeps crashing, and buy it again when stabilizes..

It has stabilized already. :)

From: UNKNOWN69
All botters are selling their santas, partyhats and all those rares that costs a fortune.
Now, my santa is crashing like we've never seen. Hope it rises again..

lol'd

The botters aren't the ones with the rares.. :duh:

From: josh81193
lol'd

The botters aren't the ones with the rares.. :duh:

Let me laugh…How many players have botted accounts to make money from it?
And what they do with the money? They invest on rares. That's what I would do.

Now they are selling because they're afraid of getting banned…

Oh no SRL will have to lay off the Reflection Dev's :( haha jk <3.

From: senrath
I might actually start scripting again if this is the case. I love Reflection, but there are just too many bots in the free areas to get anything done.

This is my view, we'll just have to wait and see if it works

Colour Scripting is worth it regardless if Java can kill Reflection; it would be nice to less bots though.

From: Wizzup?
Colour Scripting is worth it regardless if Java can kill Reflection; it would be nice to less bots though.

Less bots would completely change market prices for good! Also, there would be less players fighting for a spot (slayer, lrc, trees).

less bots -> GP is worth more -> we can still get GP using color -> PROFIT?!?!?!

From: UNKNOWN69
Less bots would completely change market prices for good! Also, there would be less players fighting for a spot (slayer, lrc, trees).

The number of players at LRC doesn't matter at all. In fact, it's BETTER to have a ton of bots there so the monsters are less likely to attack you.

From: Harry
The number of players at LRC doesn't matter at all. In fact, it's BETTER to have a ton of bots there so the monsters are less likely to attack you.

Yeah…but, more players at lrc, more lag. That's what I most hate lol
But yeah, more bots, less chances of being hit !

From: Harry
The number of players at LRC doesn't matter at all. In fact, it's BETTER to have a ton of bots there so the monsters are less likely to attack you.

I don't know what LRC is; but I'm pretty sure that once your bots are level 40+ in combat, you'll hardly be attacked, ever. What has happened to the no-level-3 mentality?

From: Wizzup?
I don't know what LRC is; but I'm pretty sure that once your bots are level 40+ in combat, you'll hardly be attacked, ever. What has happened to the no-level-3 mentality?

Members only area, there are aggressive level 120 and 140 monsters in there so the over-crowdedness is actually a HUGE HELP! (The gold/coal rocks there have TONS of ore (similar to essence rocks) so it's great!

From: Floor66
less bots -> GP is worth more -> we can still get GP using color -> PROFIT?!?!?!

Less bots = Lower supply of goods
Low supply + High demand = Higher price of goods
Higher price of goods = Less buying power of the GP
Less buying power of the GP = The less GP is worth

However

Less bots = lower supply of GP and goods
lower supply of GP and goods = Higher USD value
Higher USD value = profit

The prices of goods will explode
The value of GP will drop (prices will skyrocket)
The USD value of RS will skyrocket

If Jagex has no let up. To really tackle reflection they may have to do some serious changes to the client.

This may be part of their upcoming strategy:

http://services.runescape.com/m=news/change-to-required-java-version

Then since we are forced to use a signed client, they can do all of the following from this thread:

http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59019

From: Echo_
This may be part of their upcoming strategy:

http://services.runescape.com/m=news/change-to-required-java-version

Then since we are forced to use a signed client, they can do all of the following from this thread:

http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59019

Interesting indeed. I know for one that Rsbot rely's a lot on the unsigned client.

From: Wizzup?
I don't know what LRC is; but I'm pretty sure that once your bots are level 40+ in combat, you'll hardly be attacked, ever. What has happened to the no-level-3 mentality?

LRC is living rock caverns. The monsters are agressive 120-160s that kill you quite quickly. The ores you mine are infinite until random times, like rune essence, so you don't need to worry about other bots.

I for one am looking forward to shark-fishing around people again. One of my favorite things to do in Runescape was fish 'n chat.

I, for one, am interested in seeing exactly what they plan to do to "permanently prevent reflection bots from working." The only feasible way I see of doing this would be to custom obfuscate each client such that static hooks could not be used, but even then all that would need to be done would be distribute the updater and grab the hooks on the fly. What's more likely is that they're hyping some idea they have that isn't going to be very effective.

Meh. They change things. The bots adapt. Repeat endlessly.

JDK 7 has just been released properly now to, do you think that could have something to do with it, they were waiting for this to be released ?
http://download.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/webnotes/adoptionGuide/index.html
There are the changes, is there anything within these changes that might help them do this ?
I don't know much about java.

From: Wanted
Less bots = Lower supply of goods
Low supply + High demand = Higher price of goods
Higher price of goods = Less buying power of the GP
Less buying power of the GP = The less GP is worth

However

Less bots = lower supply of GP and goods
lower supply of GP and goods = Higher USD value
Higher USD value = profit

The prices of goods will explode
The value of GP will drop (prices will skyrocket)
The USD value of RS will skyrocket

should have said "GP is worth more, in USD"

Lol they think thier smart… im ready to see what they have planned

From: Floor66
should have said "GP is worth more, in USD"

Yea. It's weird to think about how this will affect the economy.

GP will be worth less in game yet more in real life.

From: Wanted
Yea. It's weird to think about how this will affect the economy.

The prices of anything remotely botted are already going crazy.

From: Bixby Sayz
The prices of anything remotely botted are already going crazy.

Yes but that's just due to people hoarding stuff, has nothing to do with bots being removed. At least not yet.

From: Wanted
GP will be worth less in game yet more in real life.

Yeah it's weird, it's like we're experiencing both inflation AND deflation at the same time. I think the possible amount of resources (both GP and goods) being literally infinite separates the value of goods from the value of gp. Allowing the cost of a certain good to rise even while the value of a single GP is on the rise as well.

It's only a theory since the situation is pretty unique and it's hard to find a similar situation anywhere in the real world.


EDIT. Look at RS front page… Jagex seems to be very confident they have the botting problem solved.

From: Jakkle
JDK 7 has just been released properly now to, do you think that could have something to do with it, they were waiting for this to be released ?
http://download.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/webnotes/adoptionGuide/index.html
There are the changes, is there anything within these changes that might help them do this ?
I don't know much about java.

I doubt it. I haven't read through all of the changes, but they're not requiring the absolute newest version of Java, which would be required to benefit from anything specific to JDK 7.

I wonder if its them changing the reflection hooks (ie a fake daily update).

Effectively keeping the reflection bots down for as long as possible :)

From: Bad Boy JH
I wonder if its them changing the reflection hooks (ie a fake daily update).

Effectively keeping the reflection bots down for as long as possible :)

I dont think they'd be hyped as much as they are for such a small change.

I was surprised when I saw that… although being on a community I know and remember as the one who is never effected by any updates, I welcome it!

Glad to see a good handful of others are excited as well, I may have to make a little army again if the other bots are dead for a while (hopefully they are) I loved the good days when botting was so rare they didn't even have a report button for it

I've got my 60k nats, I'm ready! :)

3h to go…

1 H to go ;)

~Home

Have a midterm tomorrow and I am up for this. IT BETTER BE GOOD JAGEX.

5 Mins!


~Home

3 minutes… THIS BETTER BE GOOD.

1 MINUTE!


~Home

KABOOOOM!



~Home

Friendly tactical nuke inbound
brace for impact

Lmfao chickens are falling on the floor.

So I'm in the process of going to.school. anyone wanna tell me what's going on?

From: mika
So I'm in the process of going to.school. anyone wanna tell me what's going on?

Nothing. Still bots. No update occured yet.

Just be patient chaps, the update will be with us soon.

Mod Mat.

~Home

Even the americans were more prepared when bombing japan….


P.S I don't mean offense to any one.

Did they miss?

We aim botted their bomb planner….

The suspense is killing me…

They do have something planned for us so that indeed runescape will be clear of all bots for at least a while..


Due to the complex nature of today&#8217;s game update, there may be a few minutes of down time while we update and test our systems. Thank you for your patience while we do this, and rest assured that we&#8217;ll get things running again as soon as we can.
As described in last week&#8217;s news post, it is now necessary to be running Java version 1.6 update 10, or above, in order to play RuneScape.
We&#8217;ve made some improvements to our graphical engine which will aid us in the future development of RuneScape&#8217;s look and feel. Players using Direct X mode will notice palette consistency for the first time with Open GL. Other visual improvements under development include our new water shader. We&#8217;ll be continually improving the look of the game over the months to come. We&#8217;re confident that this won&#8217;t impact upon gameplay, but if you do notice any graphical glitches please submit a bug report. Switching to OpenGL or Software mode in your graphics options will nullify any problems that do arise.
It is now possible to view the amount of resources a Clan member has collected by using a new button on the Clan Chat side interface, next to the Kick button, which give Admin levels and higher information on clan citadel resources gathered by any online clan member that week. This information is only given if the clan member is online, has membership, is not on probation and has visited since the last build tick.

I don't know if these graphical improvements will immediately affect us but probably so. They don't seem to be anything other than the usual update tho..

Still waiting…

-RM

I just read a thread in which Mod Mmg said the update that is being applied is taking longer than expected and they are expecting everything to finish in roughly 30-45 minutes. He said that about 20-25 minutes ago, so within the half-hour…

Fakawi, didn't you make this suggestion before? If so then you'll be happy to know this:

You can now right-click on a player&#8217;s name, or a line of their chat, to report them. This will make it easier to do and will help eliminate errors in reporting botters with hard to spell names. This can be enabled through the in-game options screen.

Hopefully we still have bottable safe mode….

Unfortunately SMART does not work at the moment am testing…

FIND COLOR STILL WORKS ON THE MAIN SCREEN! HELLO BOTTING!

Well… I can get on now and they haven't banned my 24/7er so…

-Boom

From: Main
FIND COLOR STILL WORKS ON THE MAIN SCREEN! HELLO BOTTING!

I could've told you that right away. There's no way to block that. Although they can make it hard.

Sorry about that wizzy, I just got too excited:P


My clan war runner still works 100% (just updated 1 color and it was good to go:P).


I did notice botting is now super laggier than before thou.

But do java bots/reflection still work though?

From: Troll
But do java bots/reflection still work though?

Not right now, at least.

I can't download the client through world1.runescape.com/runescape.jar :eek:

From: Dynamite
Well… I can get on now and they haven't banned my 24/7er so…

-Boom

I don't think they've banned anyone yet?

When I teleport, things change size in my inventory and things have different size in bank aswell.

~Eerik.

nm :p

world1.runescape.com/gamepack.jar

New report system is interesting but most bots don't talk anyway :p

From: Heavenzeyez1
When I teleport, things change size in my inventory and things have different size in bank aswell.

~Eerik.

Sounds like a logical, simple, effective and temporary solution :)

Also, does any one know if this is real?

So guys, since I'm pretty new to this forum, how do we know when Simba gets updated?

From: haloistaken
So guys, since I'm pretty new to this forum, how do we know when Simba gets updated?

First of all, wrong section. Second of all, Simba will print an update notice in the debug box when there is an available update.

I cannot play anymore:
After being logged in for about 5 min I get:

Error_game_crash - A problem has occurred while running the game.

This game has encountered a problem and cannot continue running.

We strive for our games to work on as many computers as possible and to be free of bugs.

If you are able to reproduce this problem (i.e. it always occurs when you do a certain thing), then please submit a bug report via our website, and we will try to fix it as soon as possible.

If problems persist, please refer to the Technical FAQs, which can be found in the Customer Support section of our website.

:(

~Eerik.

From: nielsie95

Also, does any one know if this is real?

They clearly have misjudged us….

From: Echo_
First of all, wrong section. Second of all, Simba will print an update notice in the debug box when there is an available update.

Oh ok thanks!

From: nielsie95
Sounds like a logical, simple, effective and temporary solution :)

Also, does any one know if this is real?

That's the one of the stupidest things I've ever heard from a Jagex Mod

RSBuddy is an epic facepalm.

That image of RS forums pasted is fake….
Jacmob or whatever is the creator or RSBuddy or something and it's fake because his avatar is the RSBuddy logo which is not possible, your avatar is always your RS character's face.

Yeah like im going to get 99 range legit :duh:

From: YoHoJo
That image of RS forums pasted is fake….
Jacmob or whatever is the creator or RSBuddy or something and it's fake because his avatar is the RSBuddy logo which is not possible, your avatar is always your RS character's face.

Thanks for pointing that out. It seemed a bit weird something like that would be posted on the RS forums.

We are the first working bot ( not like SRL broke or something) after the nuke and the longest running bot since RSC hehe…

From: Main
We are the first working bot ( not like SRL broke or something) after the nuke and the longest running bot since RSC hehe…

Hooray for SRL and Simba! :)

Umm I tried loading the bot and I updated both SRL and Reflection, but Smart gives me an error, I guess I should wait for the next update huh?

Someone fix Smart and we are good to go!


~Arnold Schwarzenegger
Ps. Keep on pumpin!

Does MSI need some fix to work back or it's still working (color) ?

Am pretty sure MSI could be fix by updating some colors:P

@halo, you can bot with out smart, just drag the cursor on to runescape:

See the beginning of this video.

Make sure the script you want to use is color based.

So what did they do? Any insights?

From: Main
Am pretty sure MSI could be fix by updating some colors:P

@halo, you can bot with out smart, just drag the cursor on to runescape:

See the beginning of this video.

Make sure the script you want to use is color based.

Lol had no idea about this :S lol. Is harry's wc script and MSi's wc script color based?

• Process Detection - CF will execute a command once a string of code is recognized through the game client. It will search the computers process tree which will catch all major macro programs including auto-type scripts.

• Name Detection - Similar to the above ability, it will find the names of major macro programs, which then are sent to our systems which will allow us to catch players that are abusing macro scripts.

• History Detection - Following the two aforementioned detection methods, this has the ability sniff out macro site browser history. This detection method isn’t a sole factor when we review an account and deem whether or not they have been using a macro, however, if we find that we cannot come to a conclusion, this feature can be of major help.

• GameShield JB - After speaking with GameShield, they have allowed us to use the GameShield base to redevelop to specifically suite RS. It has several detection methods that I cannot discuss, but these are fail-safe and will work indefinitely. I am allowed to discuss one method however, which GameShield JB (short for fagex Build) executes a game update which changes the ID of every item and object every X amount of hours. Players are not affected by this as it updates automatically.

• Mirror Shield - This is a special program that we discovered about a year ago. It allows us to shield the game with a type of ‘mirror’ which prevents item and object recognition. This will make macro scripts literally run in circles.

• Game Time Monitor - This cannot be discussed for security reasons. To summarize this however, it detects specific time patters over time. Whether or not they try and avoid it, many macro users follow some sort of pattern or schedule. This cannot mistake a legitimate player as it does not work in lieu of the other program abilities.

• Cursor Bounce - If the program suspects a player of using a macro script, it will "bounce" the mouse a few coordinates of the desired object or item.

From https://www.moparisthebest.com/smf/index.php/topic,521652.msg3794870.html#msg3794870 - might not be true.

I gathered a few clues over the couple of hours that I've played on it, but everything that I piece together only points to, I think, is the way the cache is loaded. It's not enough of anything and surely not solid enough to make a theory on.

If that is true… then damn……

Actually, we can verify if this is true…

Hell yeah! Everyone popularize the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1szB3mYDBmI and show all those damn java bots who's BOSS!

Hmm I dragged the cursor over to the client, and clicked Run on MSI, a pop-up window came up and asked me to put in the information and I put user/pass etc etc. Then I pressed Run under MSI then it gave me SMART error again :/

From: Wizzup?
From https://www.moparisthebest.com/smf/index.php/topic,521652.msg3794870.html#msg3794870 - might not be true.

http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?15,16,201,63307461

A Jmod say it's fake.

There is a person here that is also a P Mod, am just trying to hunt down his name:P

EDIT: TBH, if this was any other day.. I'd believe in j mod… But today I think a verification would be nice:P

I'm getting this error : Exception in Script: Unable to find file 'sps/sps.simba' used from 'C:\Simba\Includes\MSI/MSI/Core/Setup.simba'

I made use form false, and i commented reflection and smart so i can use it on brwoser i dragged the click thing to the client and then pressed run then i Got the above error

From: haloistaken
I'm getting this error : Exception in Script: Unable to find file 'sps/sps.simba' used from 'C:\Simba\Includes\MSI/MSI/Core/Setup.simba'

I made use form false, and i commented reflection and smart so i can use it on brwoser i dragged the click thing to the client and then pressed run then i Got the above error

That has to do with MSI, please post that in the MSI help section.
I think to fix your problem you need to download SPS.
Read here: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57723
Start at "If you want to use color walking" and it tells you how.

Hmm thanks YoHoJo i'll see if I can get help there :D

So I guess in final words, we can still bot… Just gotta wait for rs to be a little bit stable and perhaps get a final confirmation on their detection system?

If they did stop reflection fully, every one is just gonna go back to color like the good 'ol days (remember we had green drag killer, mta, and several version of pest control and fight cave???). Its all just a big hype and the end result is that every one will learn how to make better scripts.

I am very scared about this new update. Hopefully I don't get banned. Looks like we will be using color bots from now on then :)

Can't wait to see where this goes. One thing is for sure, a color-based essence miner will be an incredible way to make money in a week or two.

From: a ghetto boy
Can't wait to see where this goes. One thing is for sure, a color-based essence miner will be an incredible way to make money in a week or two.

Essence Miner script sounds awesome. ;)

From: Wizzup?
Essence Miner script sounds awesome. ;)

I know someone who use to have an awesome one…hmm

I've been logged out twice randomly? Haven't botted on the account for like 3 months and were questing.. Anyone else been logged out?

From: Kave
I've been logged out twice randomly? Haven't botted on the account for like 3 months and were questing.. Anyone else been logged out?

Not really o:
Restart your pc perhaps..

Hahaha, to be the first bot and the last to be alive…hahahaha. BTW: all my players are still alive and HLR runs smooth.

Victory!

From: WT-Fakawi
Hahaha, to be the first bot and the last to be alive…hahahaha. BTW: all my players are still alive and HLR runs smooth.

Victory!

Of course. :thumbsup:

From: Kave
I've been logged out twice randomly? Haven't botted on the account for like 3 months and were questing.. Anyone else been logged out?

They've been doing a lot of maintenance everywhere. I wouldn't worry about it.

From: a ghetto boy
Can't wait to see where this goes. One thing is for sure, a color-based essence miner will be an incredible way to make money in a week or two.

Essence is terrible money and exp, really. Only advantage it has is its constant.

I don't play rs anymore but since i hear jagex stopped the java bots i had to come and investigate. This might be the start of a large amount of people flocking over to here to use scar/simba and the sound of going back to coding based on color has got me excited.

May start writing some scripts of my own!

yohanu (speljohan)
they've butchered the client
for real
all instance variables are gone
it's all in a massive object array
frell bzigalsmichtz says
so
youre basically telling me
that
jagex knew what they were doing this time? And bot owners dont know what theyre in for yet?
Jacmob etc
yohanu says
yep
frell bzigalsmichtz says
are trying to keep their community calm
yohanu says
i expected them to go this far
frell bzigalsmichtz says
by saying "oh ill have it in a few hours"
yohanu says
eventually
frell bzigalsmichtz says
so
yohanu says
basically
frell bzigalsmichtz says
how to get around?
yohanu says
every object in game is an index in the array rite
like every part of game engine
the array is just an object[][]
meaning you can't tell what type is in what index
and my guess is that
everytime you connect
all indices are scrambled
resulting in something even harder than making a packet bot
frell bzigalsmichtz says
thats what wow did
it pretty much destroyed private servers
yohanu says
ll
so yeah
this is luls
pretty sure they do reflection checks now too
as a backup
in addition to more gradual updates
looks bright
finally i can actually talk to people in game
instead of talking to walls
(bots)
frell bzigalsmichtz says
i quoted this convo
yohanu says
mk
frell bzigalsmichtz says
for the faggot mscp 12 year olds who think theyre badass because they can load up a bot and hit start
yohanu says
ol

mitb

From: kingarabian
mitb

I couldn't be more pleased.

Jagex really seems to be confident that it's the end of reflection/injection bots.

http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?15,16,447,63307160,goto,1

Read through if you have time.

Sounds good Jagex. Just like old times.

From: kingarabian
Read through if you have time.

Seems to be solely focused on RSBuddy. We appear to be under the radar for the moment. Guess it's back to color scripting for a while. Hopefully SMART will be fixed shortly at the least. Hard to multitask without it.

Edit: or not? Just saw that last post that appeared while I was typing this.

From: Wizzup?
Essence Miner script sounds awesome. ;)

From: HyperSecret
I know someone who use to have an awesome one…hmm

Yea hmm, lol!

That godly script was the reason I found this sites existence back when it was srl-something .com

From: kingarabian
mitb

lol good conversation, it's funny what the bot devs at other sites are saying..

Cough Cough TEST ME
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53148
Oh what's that doing there?!

Pity my internet has been really poor as of late. I'd love to get back into things now.

sorry if this has been mentioned before but, does color still work for the scripts on here?

Depends on the individual script, as to whether or not it works without needing to be updated to new colors and such.

I wanna see if I can get some of mine working now. XD

Jagex is only… 8 months late. Everyone has already maxed their mains, their pures, their tanks, and have already made enough money on their goldfarming accounts. Also, this still doesn't fix the RWT problem, but this doesn't 'directly' affect gameplay in the sense that players can't see it right in front of their eyes.

Heh… after reading some of the posts by Mods talking about having time now to target that 2% finally. I wonder how that conversation went between the Moderators…

Mod A:
"Wonderful news, the bot sites are in a frenzy and the legit players are rejoicing."

Mod B:
"Absolutely, it seems we struck the finishing blow this time.  It's a great day indeed."

Mod A:
"So... with all of this freed up time, do we have some big updates in mind, maybe the next big installment of a new skill or activity?"

Mod B:
"Not quite yet, as we have to use the majority of this time for overcoming the most difficult (and probably impossible) challenge in Runescape since day one."

Mod A:
"Wow sounds serious, what is it exactly?  Some game engine reworks?  In-game bugs that are being exploited?"

Mod B:
".....SRL"

THE END! I put it in code tags for the irony.

Edit:
I wanna throw something else out there… I don't think I've even said it yet, but if you're lurking around, I do tip my hat to you Jagex, you did a wonderful job! More power to you, definitely. I can assure you though, as tradition within the SRL community, we'll surely step up to the challenge. "Screen raking" isn't so easy to make accurate scripts for, especially for a game like Runescape, but that's what motivates us here the most, the challenge!

we next?

Have you guys seen how many players are now online?

There's like under 40k players…

PS: I wanted to add an image, but never know how to.

The average amount of users online was 180k before the update, and it has never risen past 100k now.

holy shit, it took jagex only 10 years to realise that grind is one of the root problems of botting. Damn they're smart.

I heard rumors that inventory items now shrink and grow. Anyone can conform?

From: KingKong
holy shit, it took jagex only 10 years to realise that grind is one of the root problems of botting. Damn they're smart.

Why are you always attacking Jagex like this? I notice nothing positive about them coming from you.

From: masterBB

I heard rumors that inventory items now shrink and grow. Anyone can conform?

I'm wondering if it's not affected, in any way, from the graphic settings of the client.

From: Flight
Why are you always attacking Jagex like this? I notice nothing positive about them coming from you.

Well yeah that's the issue. But there's no real way for them to fix it either.

Also
cache
is pretty scary I think. Just shows how many people use macros really. I predict those numbers will go down when their bonus exp stuff ends next week, if major Java bots still aren't fixed. :\

From: Harry
Well yeah that's the issue. But there's no real way for them to fix it either.

Also
cache
is pretty scary I think. Just shows how many people use macros really. I predict those numbers will go down when their bonus exp stuff ends next week, if major Java bots still aren't fixed. :\

Could be the start of old players coming back. The fact that when 120k/200k of your players are bots isn't a good thing for a company - or at least a successful one.

From: masterBB
I heard rumors that inventory items now shrink and grow. Anyone can conform?

I think that's a glitch with the client if your Java isn't updated or something. My friend's items were shrunk, he said they were EXTREMELY small and he could barely tell what they were. I'm sure Jagex wouldn't make your items so small that you would have troubles figuring out what it is.

From: masterBB
I heard rumors that inventory items now shrink and grow. Anyone can conform?

I have this issue as well. I'm using my phone so I can't check but I'm still pretty sure my java is updated. I use safe mode with all graphics as low as possible.

I think the shrunken items where a bug. Don't think they are for keepers. they look extremely silly in the equip-tab :)

I think their last update cured this.

From: WT-Fakawi
I think the shrunken items where a bug. Don't think they are for keepers. they look extremely silly in the equip-tab :)

I think their last update cured this.

some are still tiny.. some aren't

this isn't the first time this bug has happened

From: grats
some are still tiny.. some aren't

this isn't the first time this bug has happened

Yes just noticed this too. Ah well…HLR still works.

From: WT-Fakawi
Yes just noticed this too. Ah well…HLR still works.

I like the small icons, I wish they would double our bag space and make icons half the size lol

From: Flight
Why are you always attacking Jagex like this? I notice nothing positive about them coming from you.

1) Im not always attacking them, irc this is only the second time ive said something negative about them.

2) In all honesty they deserve it(in their current state). Gone were the days when Rs was a game people could enjoy without getting harassed by bots.

I've read somewhere on the runescape forums that colours will change every x hours. Therefore we will need to increase our tolerance in our functions. This might be such a big increase that our color bots will start recognizing objects as other objects (because the colors are too much alike).

If everyone implements autocoloring throughout their scripts, then I don't foresee it posing a problem.

From: euphemism
If everyone implements autocoloring throughout their scripts, then I don't foresee it posing a problem.

You cannot autocolor something if the color changes too much or if objects become similar looking because the color might become the same.
If 2 objects change too much of color they might start looking the same and therefore autocolor might recognize object 2 as object 1.

From: blabla7
You cannot autocolor something if the color changes too much or if objects become similar looking because the color might become the same.
If 2 objects change too much of color they might start looking the same and therefore autocolor might recognize object 2 as object 1.

Almost anything can be autocolored. And we appreciate feed back, but dont spam the forums to get x amount of posts trying to get into the higher sections of the forums.

From: blabla7
You cannot autocolor something if the color changes too much or if objects become similar looking because the color might become the same.
If 2 objects change too much of color they might start looking the same and therefore autocolor might recognize object 2 as object 1.

Sure, but if the script finds the color correctly the first time, then everytime it looks for it, it will only be one step behind the color when the color changes.

Surely they can't change the actual colour of things every hour ? otherwise it would be like playing runescape on LSD lol. More that likely they would change the drakness/lightness of the colour. If that happend you could surly put If FindColor from blue very light to blue very dark plus it would have to match the shape of what your looking for to (something in that sense). There is always a way round everything, it's just working it out :p.

If they will change colors for every x hours, then it's better wait, see if there is some kind of pattern. That, probably, will be like hooks. Might be possible with help of autocolor, but also might not be possible with it.
If not possible, wouldn't take much time to collect information about those colors around the whole Runescape world?

From: onilika
If they will change colors for every x hours, then it's better wait, see if there is some kind of pattern. That, probably, will be like hooks. Might be possible with help of autocolor, but also might not be possible with it.
If not possible, wouldn't take much time to collect information about those colors around the whole Runescape world?

Colors rotate with every loading screen, both minimap as well as objects. The time that colors where stable is long gone.

From: onilika
If they will change colors for every x hours, then it's better wait, see if there is some kind of pattern. That, probably, will be like hooks. Might be possible with help of autocolor, but also might not be possible with it.
If not possible, wouldn't take much time to collect information about those colors around the whole Runescape world?

Colors have been changing colours for years. Thats why we use a colour tolerance. It lets us search for the colour and returns colours that are similar to the one we're searching for.

I, personally, enjoy using colors. It gives the script more of a challenge, and a sense of accomplishment when it works how you want it to.

(Granted, I haven't scripted in a VERY long time, ha)

From: Camo Developer
I, personally, enjoy using colors. It gives the script more of a challenge, and a sense of accomplishment when it works how you want it to.

(Granted, I haven't scripted in a VERY long time, ha)

It's now neat time to return! (hint) ;)

~Eerik.

From: noidea
Almost anything can be autocolored. And we appreciate feed back, but dont spam the forums to get x amount of posts trying to get into the higher sections of the forums.

Uhm, if you looked at my join date, you would have known that I have been on srl for a long time. If I wanted to spam myself into the higher ranks, I would've done that by now..

May 2011. Woah thats long.

From: Floor66
May 2011. Woah thats long.

Well he has a point… He's been here for 6 months and he is not even near the 20 post count ;).

http://www.zybez.net/news/1681/runefest_insider_session_breaking_the_bots/

• 9000 botting accounts are being banned per minute.
• A total 7.7 million botting accounts will be banned by Sunday.
• 1.5 million accounts were banned last Tuesday.
• There are 750,000 accounts created per month from China.
• 200,000 botting accounts were being created per day before Tuesday.
• 60% of RuneScape players online on Tuesday (and before then) were bots.
• A small percentage of genuine players were also banned.
• Only 2% of the bots were clicker-bots rather than the reflection type bots.
• Jagex believe their Tuesday anti-botting update will work for a "significant period of time" but not forever.
• Jagex agree that they don't communicate with the players as well. They hope to improve.
• Last fact: Some really old geezers play RuneScape.

A small percentage of genuine players were also banned.

For real?
Thats ridiculous. If I had a company of that size, I wouldn't sacrifice genuine players over bots…

From: blabla7
For real?
Thats ridiculous. If I had a company of that size, I wouldn't sacrifice genuine players over bots…

I heard about that, those people got unbanned and got back extra members credit for the days they lost.

I cal bs on the banning. I reported between 50 and 100 high-level bots at Soul Wars, and made a list of a few of them that were there for huge amounts of hours per day. One in particular, "L Luv You", has not been banned, but you'll notice his adventure log stops completely at the 24th (nuke day). Until this one account gets banned, I'll continue to doubt any real mass ban is happening.

From: Flight
I cal bs on the banning. I reported between 50 and 100 high-level bots at Soul Wars, and made a list of a few of them that were there for huge amounts of hours per day. One in particular, "L Luv You", has not been banned, but you'll notice his adventure log stops completely at the 24th (nuke day). Until this one account gets banned, I'll continue to doubt any real mass ban is happening.

I know a guy who botted to 93 mining on f2p on the 1k+ world at the wilderness iron rocks, I reported him like every day for a week, he stopped botting when he reached 93. I even killed him a few times with my mage pure and watched him spazz at edgeville.
Shit happens.

Shit happens all the time, Jagex is no exception. They promisse stuff, but they never go further with it. When will we trust on Jagex?

From: Wizzup?
http://www.zybez.net/news/1681/runefest_insider_session_breaking_the_bots/

• 9000 botting accounts are being banned per minute.
• A total 7.7 million botting accounts will be banned by Sunday.
• 1.5 million accounts were banned last Tuesday.
• There are 750,000 accounts created per month from China.
• 200,000 botting accounts were being created per day before Tuesday.
• 60% of RuneScape players online on Tuesday (and before then) were bots.
• A small percentage of genuine players were also banned.
• Only 2% of the bots were clicker-bots rather than the reflection type bots.
• Jagex believe their Tuesday anti-botting update will work for a "significant period of time" but not forever.
• Jagex agree that they don't communicate with the players as well. They hope to improve.
• Last fact: Some really old geezers play RuneScape.

I laughed at the old ass dude complaining about the mods not being active enough on the forums.

From: Heavenzeyez1
It's now neat time to return! (hint) ;)

~Eerik.

Ha, I am actually thinking about it. Just randomly checked my accounts and it's been 399 days since I've botted.

Got to get caught up with Simba and the SPS and whatever else I need to catch up on.

From: Echo_
I laughed at the old ass dude complaining about the mods not being active enough on the forums.

+1, He also brought his wife with him. It looks like the guy behind him on the left side of the screen has some difficulties keeping a straight face.

From: Mr. Bottomtooth
It looks like the guy behind him on the left side of the screen has some difficulties keeping a straight face.

LMAO!!! :)
That so made my day!!! Hahahhaaa.

~Eerik.

Trick or treat ……

From: Lima Bean
Trick or treat ……

I wonder how many "umadbro?"s he got in reply to that message…