SRL Archive - NOTA

Is SRL is dying? No!


masterBB

2011-10-17 08:27:04

Recently there is a lot of activity under the newcomers, some might call them annoying or even spam bots. But it's a fact that they are one of the few new members of this community. At the moment we are instantly banning them all and removing all the links which they placed to harvest some money. I think they are a group of users which can help us grow as long as they improve there AI till our standards. Maybe, after several years of developing they might become so human-like they even post working rs bots.

Of course none of that is going to happen if we keep banning them on their first post. And why? Cause they are different than us? Maybe cause in their culture it's normal to place links all over your posts? Shouldn't we be more tolerant towards members who have a different background? If you look at where they used to be advertising, this is a safe heaven for them. We don't distribute illegal torrents nor do we spread disgusting porn. If we ban them, do they have to go back? I think that is pretty hard, we are better than that.

From now on I think it's best to make a welcome move towards them. Lets place annoying links all over our post to make them feel comfortable.

Wizzup?

2011-10-17 08:35:10

Well, Runescape is dying, and SRL as we know it with it. The Java bots are now so commercialized is it difficult to make a stand. But this was known from the very beginning of SRL. Eventually commercial bots take over, as the developers have a constant incentive to maintain their bots: money. And scripters have an incentive to write scripts even if they don't play runescape anymore: Money.

We'll have to think really hard and move onto a different direction with the community, perhaps? (I mean a different game / setting, not going commercial)

Flight

2011-10-17 08:41:41

From: Wizzup?
Well, Runescape is dying, and SRL as we know it with it. The Java bots are now so commercialized is it difficult to make a stand. But this was known from the very beginning of SRL. Eventually commercial bots take over, as the developers have a constant incentive to maintain their bots: money. And scripters have an incentive to write scripts even if they don't play runescape anymore: Money.

We'll have to think really hard and move onto a different direction with the community, perhaps? (I mean a different game / setting, not going commercial)


I couldn't agree more. This is all that I wanted to mention, so I second this.

euphemism

2011-10-17 10:37:50

masterBB, sorry your humorous thread got hijacked. Wizzup?, what other game would you suggest? At any rate, Runescape isn't quite dead yet.

Sin

2012-12-22 20:26:51

Apologies for this gravedig but I feel Runescape is more close to dying than ever before.
Any ideas on alternative games?

Benny

2012-12-22 20:31:38

From: Shay
Apologies for this gravedig but I feel Runescape is more close to dying than ever before.
Any ideas on alternative games?


Guess you could consider WoW or like me just quit and focus on life a bit more.

Would be interested to hear if there were alternatives

Fascinate

2012-12-22 20:38:07

I think we should expand to new games! Maybe not botting them solely but form a community! Preferably on a new site? Otherwise this one will have to be seriously revamped…

NCDS

2012-12-22 21:22:11

From: Fascinate
I think we should expand to new games! Maybe not botting them solely but form a community! Preferably on a new site? Otherwise this one will have to be seriously revamped…


What's wrong with this site?


I think it would be excellent to have another game to write an 'SRL-like' library for. I'm not much of a gamer really, but I would consider near any suggestion quite seriously at this point.

I also think it would be really cool to make tools, and programs as a community. Very similar to what has been done with Simba, but not strictly limited to pascal.

DannyRS

2012-12-22 21:34:21

From: NCDS
What's wrong with this site?


I think it would be excellent to have another game to write an 'SRL-like' library for. I'm not much of a gamer really, but I would consider near any suggestion quite seriously at this point.

I also think it would be really cool to make tools, and programs as a community. Very similar to what has been done with Simba, but not strictly limited to pascal.


^

villavu is fine imo, would need more game sections added?

Most of us are mainly here for the programming and community, Any games we can start to create library's for or make tools, that people will use, sure why not ;)

Jagex are showing no sign of stopping their running of RuneScape into the ground :( which is a problem

Maybe we (WizzUp) can make Simba a more user friendly client to compete?

Fascinate

2012-12-22 21:58:51

Nothing is wrong with this site it's just it is setup to be vastly a Runescape/Autoing site. If we were to also be a community for other games it wouldn't look like a very friendly site for that game in this site's current state! This is just imo if i were to just happen upon this site while looking for fanpages for a certain game I would leave it immediately.

KingKong

2012-12-22 22:06:01

you guys should take a look at robocode and torcs, robocode is basically writing AI to fight other AI bots while torcs is a car racing game with programmable cars/AI and you can compete with them

NCDS

2012-12-22 22:43:10

From: KingKong
you guys should take a look at robocode and torcs, robocode is basically writing AI to fight other AI bots while torcs is a car racing game with programmable cars/AI and you can compete with them


torcs sounds quite interesting, but I'm more so talking about something that involves SRL, rather than a new site to go to. ;)

Dynamite

2012-12-22 22:53:06

I am interested in a new game.
Would love to develop a new include from scratch with the community.
Is that League of Legends "bottable".
Also is this a discussion on changing of languages?

-Boom

DannyRS

2012-12-22 22:56:46

From: Dynamite
I am interested in a new game.
Would love to develop a new include from scratch with the community.
Is that League of Legends "bottable".
Also is this a discussion on changing of languages?

-Boom


what can you really gain from botting LoL,

IP Points?

discussion / champ picks would be a nightmare and where your team want you to go

Dynamite

2012-12-22 22:59:33

I have never played it before was just a suggestion :)

-Boom

x[Warrior]x3500

2012-12-22 23:56:17

From: Dynamite
I have never played it before was just a suggestion :)

-Boom


in short, botting LoL is sorta worthless- wont gain anything from it.

thinking of a new game is sorta hard :/ it really couldnt be a 3d type of game (like WoW/GW2) unless there was a way to always know which angle u were facing (like the compass in rs) and the angle of view (setAngle(srl_angle_high)). but most games dont privide that. its hard to think of a challenging game that could actually be botted w/o tons and tons of hours of work. not many fit the discription as well as rs does :/

NKN

2012-12-23 01:00:23

From: x[Warrior]x3500
in short, botting LoL is sorta worthless- wont gain anything from it.

thinking of a new game is sorta hard :/ it really couldnt be a 3d type of game (like WoW/GW2) unless there was a way to always know which angle u were facing (like the compass in rs) and the angle of view (setAngle(srl_angle_high)). but most games dont privide that. its hard to think of a challenging game that could actually be botted w/o tons and tons of hours of work. not many fit the discription as well as rs does :/


All new games will take tons and tons of hours of work.
j/s

How about Diablo 3?

Fascinate

2012-12-23 01:03:54

From: x[Warrior]x3500
in short, botting LoL is sorta worthless- wont gain anything from it.

thinking of a new game is sorta hard :/ it really couldnt be a 3d type of game (like WoW/GW2) unless there was a way to always know which angle u were facing (like the compass in rs) and the angle of view (setAngle(srl_angle_high)). but most games dont privide that. its hard to think of a challenging game that could actually be botted w/o tons and tons of hours of work. not many fit the discription as well as rs does :/


We didn't develop a bot for RS just because it "fit the description" we made one bacause we wanted it. If we want a bot for another game we can just as easily come up with ideas to get a script to do something just as well as we did in runescape.

Sirenia

2012-12-23 04:08:51

If you will bot with LoL:

Refer a new account with ur mains link
Bot refered account to lvl 5
Gain rp/skins on ur main
????
Profit! ^.^

P1nky

2012-12-23 05:48:49

Runescape won't let this happen! Lol, but all serious, I believe that Jagex won't make the users suffer. They will make a change and watch it'll be a good change that'll bring the old-schoolers that were playing a month ago.

masterBB

2012-12-23 06:39:38

Everyone realizes this thread was a rant against the spam bots (before we stopped most of them)?

Runehack123

2012-12-23 08:21:50

It's nice to see that Jagex is helping people quit their game since a lot of time+money is wasted on this game that could go to charity or other things that could help make the world a better place. :)

Benny

2012-12-23 10:17:10

From: Sirenia
If you will bot with LoL:

Refer a new account with ur mains link
Bot refered account to lvl 5
Gain rp/skins on ur main
????
Profit! ^.^


Haha Sirenia you make me laugh.

Are there any not very addictive games that are fun to play?

slushpuppy

2012-12-23 10:41:10

I wonder if WOW is bottable using color client

DannyRS

2012-12-23 10:45:53

From: slushpuppy
I wonder if WOW is bottable using color client


Not really viable, its direct X and has madddd shading, so the colors all blend into one, maybe with some kind of hook, but its not really viable with solely color ;)

And its 3D which has its own issues

Vinyl Scratch

2012-12-23 10:54:29

From: -Benny
Guess you could consider WoW or like me just quit and focus on life a bit more.

Would be interested to hear if there were alternatives


Let's write scripts for school, and our jobs. Sell them and make mills in RL gold.

cause

2012-12-23 12:07:30

I'm taking a look at robocode, looks really cool.

Fascinate

2012-12-23 12:09:49

Is league of legends a browser game or a client? Is it free?

DannyRS

2012-12-23 12:48:59

From: Fascinate
Is league of legends a browser game or a client? Is it free?


free with micro transactions, client not browser

Fascinate

2012-12-23 13:18:20

From: DannyRS
free with micro transactions, client not browser


Are the micro transactions OP?

masterBB

2012-12-23 13:24:04

From: Fascinate
Are the micro transactions OP?


They do not give you any benefit. Only make things faster. You need to play lol a few times to get it. It is not an MMORPG.

Fascinate

2012-12-23 13:27:11

From: masterBB
They do not give you any benefit. Only make things faster. You need to play lol a few times to get it. It is not an MMORPG.


Hmm I don't really like client based but I'll give it a shot!

___

2012-12-23 19:21:36

Never played lol
Counter strike bot? Aim bot for cod?

NKN

2012-12-23 19:22:48

From: ___
Never played lol
Counter strike bot? Aim bot for cod?

Both useless.

Get hacks for them. Color bots wouldn't be fast enough for a proper aimbot.

Echo_

2012-12-23 19:49:51

I can't really think of any popular games with simple enough graphics that Simba would be an effective choice to macro with. Most games these days would need OpenGL/DirectX hooking for Simba to work with.

DannyRS

2012-12-23 20:01:38

From: Echo_
I can't really think of any popular games with simple enough graphics that Simba would be an effective choice to macro with. Most games these days would need OpenGL/DirectX hooking for Simba to work with.


We dont have to stick with all color tho? Someone could make reflection/injection/whatever client for a new game right?

Echo_

2012-12-24 01:45:25

From: DannyRS
We dont have to stick with all color tho? Someone could make reflection/injection/whatever client for a new game right?


Of course, but that would only work with Java based games.

Fascinate

2012-12-24 01:48:01

From: Echo_
Of course, but that would only work with Java based games.


Yeah that's the problem! Are there any java based games that are any good?

Noob King

2012-12-24 07:14:04

From: masterBB
Everyone realizes this thread was a rant against the spam bots (before we stopped most of them)?


I got that part. However the topic changed starting at the second post. You got thread jacked by Wizzup. :p


From: Echo_
Of course, but that would only work with Java based games.


DirectX and OpenGL hooking doesn't need Java of course :p.

Here is an example with starcraft 2.
http://graphics.stanford.edu/~mdfisher/GameAIs.html

chief herb

2012-12-24 07:37:35

a aimbot/bot in general would be awesome for call of duty bo 2 online for xbox 360. is it possible?

DannyRS

2012-12-24 07:41:35

From: chief herb
a aimbot/bot in general would be awesome for call of duty bo 2 online for xbox 360. is it possible?


For Xbox, possible, not worth the work,

Get CoD2 for PC and get a hack :P