SRL Archive - Suggestions

As discussed here (apologies to Rick for derailing the thread), there was some talk about RuneScape functionality being implemented in Simba itself, rather than in an include or extension.

To me, the disadvantages are small. The advantages, as well, are somewhat small, but could be nice for tutorials, learning quickly, etc.

The learning and ease of programming is probably the main 'argument' for it, in my opinion. It would be quite nice for a new comer to learn, as all they have to do is download the SimbaInstaller.exe and they can already program for Simba. No need to mess with extensions.

It would/could also open up the idea of having things like a Simba Account Manager as a feature of Simba, rather than an extension (which isn't a big deal either way). And since people have been wanting a script manager, I don't see why not to have it implemented straight into Simba? It seems like a good choice to me.

So, discuss. :)

I don't think it would be a good idea. Maybe the SRL include could come with Simba by default?

My reasons:
-Simba would have too many functions and procedures.
-Simba functions are not as easy to read and modify as SRL include.

Only things I feel like should be added to simba are human like mouse movement and probably key typing too(Not actually Runescape related). Then anyone could make basic runescape scripts without getting detected.

I think RS-specific stuff should be in extensions. I like that Simba isn't RS-specific. I think it's part of what makes us so different from other bots: gives us more of a programming community feel than a botting community.

From: Coh3n
I think RS-specific stuff should be in extensions. I like that Simba isn't RS-specific. I think it's part of what makes us so different from other bots: gives us more of a programming community feel than a botting community.

I agree with this, I actually do a lot of stuff with Simba that isn't RS related. Just the other day I was converting decimals to binary with Simba :D

From: Coh3n
I think RS-specific stuff should be in extensions. I like that Simba isn't RS-specific. I think it's part of what makes us so different from other bots: gives us more of a programming community feel than a botting community.

From: Echo_
I agree with this, I actually do a lot of stuff with Simba that isn't RS related. Just the other day I was converting decimals to binary with Simba :D

With most other bots, the code editing part of the procedure has absolutely nothing to do with the bot itself, it's merely a class file that you save and then execute from the bot. If anything, Simba as an editor is far closer to the bot itself than all the other bots.

But yeah, I agree :p

From: Coh3n
I think RS-specific stuff should be in extensions. I like that Simba isn't RS-specific. I think it's part of what makes us so different from other bots: gives us more of a programming community feel than a botting community.

Yup. RS-Specific Simba would definitely be easier for the newcomers however, Simba is better the way it is imo. While Simba is mostly used for botting, I think it is great that we can do many all sorts of fun things in it that has nothing to do with runescape :p

Any ways good idea, but personally, most people(i thinks?) like myself like Simba the way it is ;)

From: Richard
With most other bots, the code editing part of the procedure has absolutely nothing to do with the bot itself, it's merely a class file that you save and then execute from the bot. If anything, Simba as an editor is far closer to the bot itself than all the other bots.

But yeah, I agree :p

The only other bot I have experience with is Nexus and it stores characters and settings, not the scripts. Other bots also have their own RS client whereas Simba doesn't (SMART is only a plugin).

I agree with keeping Simba as it is now

Okay, so we might have to come up with a solution for the account manager, then. It won't be easy, however. (Forms in plugins is pretty complicated)

And what about the script manager?

From: Wizzup?
Okay, so we might have to come up with a solution for the account manager, then. It won't be easy, however. (Forms in plugins is pretty complicated)

And what about the script manager?

I don't think having a script manager would make it RS specific just because the majority of scripts will be for RS. I don't see why it can't include several other types of scripts as well.

The script manager made me think about this the most, actually. And again, I have no preference really, as everything does work fine as is; I was merely curious as to reasons to not have it be more RuneScape specific. :)

Having a script manager be not RS-specific seems quite silly, to me.. Especially if we ship it with scripts (which I believe we should).. At that point what would get in? If I made a script for neo pets and a calculator and that projectile to the moon thing Naum made (I think it was Naum, apologies to whoever made it if I'm incorrect), who's to say those well coded programs shouldn't be put in?

Just seems like we're trying to avoid RS for silly reasons. It would make some things simpler, and others wouldn't change at all (i.e., programming for other reasons, which, I too, do from time to time).

It doesn't really matter that much I suppose, I just like that part of Simba. It makes us really different from other bots.

Well, then perhaps it is an idea to rewrite parts of the Account Manager to make it less RS specific? Then you could use it for whatever other games you like to.

From: Coh3n
Other bots also have their own RS client whereas Simba doesn't (SMART is only a plugin).

That's simply not true.

From: Wizzup?
Well, then perhaps it is an idea to rewrite parts of the Account Manager to make it less RS specific? Then you could use it for whatever other games you like to.

What about it right now makes it RS specific?

From: Method
That's simply not true.

Thanks for the explanation. From my experience, you run the bot and it loads RS. That's what I meant by client, not that it's literally a separate game (like a private server?).

Looking at the best interest of Simba, I would say no. However, the best interest for SRL may be different.

Simba may be effected negatively if it's focused primarily on RS whereas SRL would most likely be effected positively from that change.

Simba will most likely have a more useful future if it stays as general as it is now, and SRL will have no negative effect from that.

Seems to me that best option is to keep it the way it is.

From: Coh3n
Thanks for the explanation. From my experience, you run the bot and it loads RS. That's what I meant by client, not that it's literally a separate game (like a private server?).

I don't think he understood you meant SMART handles that stuff, and not Simba itself… :p

From: Zyt3x
I don't think he understood you meant SMART handles that stuff, and not Simba itself… :p

If "Other bots also have their own RS client" wasn't what he meant, perhaps it should have been phrased differently. It's obvious that Simba doesn't handle the loading of the client internally.

From: Method
It's obvious that Simba doesn't handle the loading of the client internally.

If this is what other bots do then that's exactly what I meant; sorry if my terminology wasn't correct.