Big Tom
2011-07-05 16:23:42
2011-07-05 16:23:42
2011-07-05 16:27:32
2011-07-05 16:27:41
2011-07-05 16:30:20
From: noidea
When is someone going to man up and ban these people. Permanently, then ban them when they come back under a different name.
2011-07-05 16:31:52
2011-07-05 16:32:55
From: Huthaifah
Post pics.. But if you say you got proof, then just show it to admins. And, he has been banned before, so..
2011-07-05 16:33:09
From: Big Tom
No shit this is rediculous, having people like this here makes it feel like a java community seriously.
He hacked me like literly 15 minutes ago. He claimed he would do firecape for me and obviously that didnt happen. He not only took all my cash but he stripped all my items too.
2011-07-05 16:33:39
2011-07-05 16:36:41
2011-07-05 16:37:58
2011-07-05 16:41:56
2011-07-05 16:48:08
2011-07-05 17:08:54
From: Zyt3x
Naike was a highly trusted SRL Developer once. I still find it shocking that he has joined the dark side

2011-07-05 17:10:47
2011-07-05 17:34:20
2011-07-05 17:38:19
2011-07-05 17:40:36
From: Bionicle
If this turns out to not be true, it would ruin his name. Please post proof if you have it, otherwise what was the point of making this thread when you could have pm'd an admin even if they were offline?
2011-07-05 17:52:41
From: TomTuffWell hello there Captain obvious ^^, :D
I thought of star wars when I saw this - sorry, I had to do it.
@OP: Just post proof in the thread.
2011-07-05 17:55:16
From: Floor66
This is like Dominic Strauss-Khan. Please provide proof.
2011-07-05 17:55:53
From: Dgby714
ruin his name?
He was demoted and banned from the BM already….
2011-07-05 18:07:13
2011-07-05 18:08:21
2011-07-05 18:15:37
From: NCDS
Hate to see him end up like this, pretty sad honestly… :/
@Big Tom, sorry for your loss. However, the banned from black market cup is meant to serve as a warning that the person shouldn't be trusted with RS goods.
2011-07-05 18:17:35
From: Awkwardsaw
This. Even if you do have sufficient proof, you should have known he shouldnt be trusted. I would say it's your fault because of that
2011-07-05 18:31:50
From: Awkwardsaw
This. Even if you do have sufficient proof, you should have known he shouldnt be trusted. I would say it's your fault because of that
2011-07-05 18:32:41
From: masterBB
I do not agree on the fault part. Seems pretty hard, why is he even allowed here if we didn't trust him.
2011-07-05 18:46:41
From: Awkwardsaw
That's not for me to decide, but the way i look at it is:
Say your a doctor giving your patient antibiotics. You get an allergy list, but for some reason you forget that one of his allergies is in your antibiotic. You give it to your patient, and all of the sudden he gets a fatal allergic reaction, potentially dies. Even though it was an honest mistake that you where not awear of the allergy that might kill him, it is still your responcibility as a doctor to prevent something like that.
It is clear that naike is banned from the black market, and shouldnt be trusted. OP is responcible for his runescape account, and who he gives his password out to. That doesn't justify naike(if OP does infact provide proof), but OP is still responcible for his account being hacked
2011-07-05 18:59:39
From: josh81193
So what you're trying to say is, both sides are accountable. Either way, that doesn't justify Naike stealing his items from him.
2011-07-05 19:00:44
From: Big Tom
Im just waiting for one to post so when i pm him my proof i know he will do something about it.
2011-07-05 19:07:05
2011-07-05 19:20:41
From: Huthaifah
How do you know he scammed you, did he take back account? Or did you use an untrusted bot service or something, or possibly had a keylogger on your computer. Unless you have his IP.
2011-07-05 21:44:59
From: Smarter Child
It's not really his fault, he was just careless. However, naike is the one who did the deed.
Nevertheless, people should learn from their mistakes, and obviously[?] naike has not.
{That is if he really did hack him.}
2011-07-05 21:46:08
From: Huthaifah
How do you know he scammed you, did he take back account? Or did you use an untrusted bot service or something, or possibly had a keylogger on your computer. Unless you have his IP.
2011-07-05 22:04:20
From: Big Tom
The minute i gave him my password I looked further into his account at all his posts and found what i didnt want to see. From there i knew he was hacking me as I was reading it.
As for proof im not really sure how to post it too the public because its in my inbox but if I could show you my inbox its so damn clear. If I gave you and ip it would be pointless because obviously hes done this before and probably changed it the second he logged off… When he logged on my account one of the things he said to me is "I have a high rank of Srl and im very trusted and I would hate to lose that." After that I was trying to ask him a question on how long it would take and he stopped answering back. Asked him something else and he didnt answer, clearly didnt give a shit and just wanted my stuff. So there is no doubt in my mind it was him on my account. Back to the proof the pms between us make it soooo clear but i just wish i could have seen it like i do now.
2011-07-05 22:12:57
2011-07-05 22:24:45
2011-07-05 22:30:07
From: TomTuff
@AwkSaw: So you're saying that Tom should have to be punished too?
2011-07-05 22:36:56
The minute i gave him my password I looked further into his account at all his posts and found what i didnt want to see. From there i knew he was hacking me as I was reading it.So he really didn't know, plus he's only been here since Oct. 2010, I think Naikes first ban was before that.
2011-07-05 22:45:59
From: Huthaifah
I wouldn't say accept responsibility. He said himself, So he really didn't know, plus he's only been here since Oct. 2010, I think Naikes first ban was before that.
2011-07-05 22:46:28
Originally Posted by Big Tom
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Originally Posted by Naike
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Originally Posted by Big Tom
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Originally Posted by Big Tom
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What gear you got?
(him)I might be willing to give it a try
(me)Well, you can decide the gear if you have a preference. My last attempt i went something like black dhide body bandos tassy neitiznot helm zammy book rune cbow unholy necklace snakeskin boots, and i made it to the wave before jad and died from a ko. I had enough pots left for jad with that setup but its really up to you.
Im assuming you have done jad before because if you havent id rather you not do it because 1 trip can be kinda spendy.
(him)I have done JAD before, not too long ago I did it on a pure with one defence 78 range
I suspect that you got more than 65 defence as you use bandos, so it'll be great with just that gear
Just shoot me a PM when you wish, I'm free today and tomorrow!
(me)Alright sweet im glad you have done it before! To be honest you dont even have to do jad if you dont want to you can stop before him. I probably wont have you do it today because im a really busy person and i dont have time to buy gear and stuff today, but please send me a pm on what you want for an inventory. My stats are 89 hp 70 def 85 range 54 prayer. Because of your 1 def im guessing the invi setup is going to be a little different than on your pure. Il probably buy the gear and invi tomorrow and you will just have to tell me when you have time this week. Like i said im a very busy person so im not in a huge rush to get this done hopefully il get you going within a few days. Thanks
(him)I'm collecting photos of finished JAD's. Going to open a store on Sythe while I get around 5-10 pictures(got 3 of them as of now, though I've done more JADs). So please let me finish him off? -- (your so full of shit is what i should have said)
For the gear, I'd like the best possible
Robin -> Verac's helm -> Archer helm
Fury -> Amulet of ranging -> Glory
Ava's device
Karils top -> Black d'hide top
Bandos Tasset(This helps a lot, saves damage from rangers)
Barrows gloves -> Black d'hide vamps
Ranger boots -> Snakeskin boots
Rune c'bow
Zammy book or if you got the cash dfs!
Bolts are really a matter of gp's, anything above mithril goes.
Make sure you have around 3k of them, just in case!
For pots, I'd like
4 Brews
4 Super restore
1 Range pot
and for the rest, prayer pots!
If you're having a hard time making up your mind, I can buy items for you before JAD.
Just leave the account at G.E
If not, just place it outside the cave
(me)Also, ive attempted jad and have seen a lot of guides and there is no way in hell that 4 brews will be enough... I would think atleast 6 or 7?
(him)4 brews is enough, you have a high defense.
If you wish to use 6, then sure go ahead. I'm very confident that 4 would be enough!
Surly for beginners 6 brews can be used, but trust me, 4 is enough
(him)Amulet of ranging/Fury is way better, as the odds of me running out of prayer is very low. ----( Why? because its more expensive of course.)
(me)Alright, I trust you. Will you be doing this today because il be sending you the password in like 5 minutes?
(him)I'll do the first 30 waves now, and the rest when I wake up
(me)Alright go time
Username:*****8 Password: ******
-If you dont like the setup or i forgot something just pm me quick il be home for another 30 minutes
(him)I'd like to change one thing..
What's your pin?
2011-07-05 22:49:14
From: Big Tom
Originally Posted by Big Tom
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Originally Posted by Naike
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Originally Posted by Big Tom
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Originally Posted by Naike
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Originally Posted by Big Tom
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Originally Posted by Naike
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Originally Posted by Big Tom
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Originally Posted by Naike
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What gear you got?
I might be willing to give it a try
Well, you can decide the gear if you have a preference. My last attempt i went something like black dhide body bandos tassy neitiznot helm zammy book rune cbow unholy necklace snakeskin boots, and i made it to the wave before jad and died from a ko. I had enough pots left for jad with that setup but its really up to you.
Im assuming you have done jad before because if you havent id rather you not do it because 1 trip can be kinda spendy.
I have done JAD before, not too long ago I did it on a pure with one defence 78 range
I suspect that you got more than 65 defence as you use bandos, so it'll be great with just that gear
Just shoot me a PM when you wish, I'm free today and tomorrow!
Alright sweet im glad you have done it before! To be honest you dont even have to do jad if you dont want to you can stop before him. I probably wont have you do it today because im a really busy person and i dont have time to buy gear and stuff today, but please send me a pm on what you want for an inventory. My stats are 89 hp 70 def 85 range 54 prayer. Because of your 1 def im guessing the invi setup is going to be a little different than on your pure. Il probably buy the gear and invi tomorrow and you will just have to tell me when you have time this week. Like i said im a very busy person so im not in a huge rush to get this done hopefully il get you going within a few days. Thanks
I'm collecting photos of finished JAD's. Going to open a store on Sythe while I get around 5-10 pictures(got 3 of them as of now, though I've done more JADs). So please let me finish him off?
For the gear, I'd like the best possible
Robin -> Verac's helm -> Archer helm
Fury -> Amulet of ranging -> Glory
Ava's device
Karils top -> Black d'hide top
Bandos Tasset(This helps a lot, saves damage from rangers)
Barrows gloves -> Black d'hide vamps
Ranger boots -> Snakeskin boots
Rune c'bow
Zammy book or if you got the cash dfs!
Bolts are really a matter of gp's, anything above mithril goes.
Make sure you have around 3k of them, just in case!
For pots, I'd like
4 Brews
4 Super restore
1 Range pot
and for the rest, prayer pots!
If you're having a hard time making up your mind, I can buy items for you before JAD.
Just leave the account at G.E
If not, just place it outside the cave
Also, ive attempted jad and have seen a lot of guides and there is no way in hell that 4 brews will be enough... I would think atleast 6 or 7?
4 brews is enough, you have a high defense.
If you wish to use 6, then sure go ahead. I'm very confident that 4 would be enough!
Surly for beginners 6 brews can be used, but trust me, 4 is enough
Amulet of ranging/Fury is way better, as the odds of me running out of prayer is very low.
Alright, I trust you. Will you be doing this today because il be sending you the password in like 5 minutes?
I'll do the first 30 waves now, and the rest when I wake up
Alright go time
Username:*****8 Password: ******
-If you dont like the setup or i forgot something just pm me quick il be home for another 30 minutes
I'd like to change one thing..
What's your pin?
2011-07-05 22:50:37
From: Big Tom
Originally Posted by Big Tom
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Originally Posted by Naike
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Originally Posted by Big Tom
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Originally Posted by Naike
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Originally Posted by Big Tom
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Originally Posted by Naike
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Originally Posted by Big Tom
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Originally Posted by Naike
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Originally Posted by Big Tom
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Originally Posted by Naike
What gear you got?
I might be willing to give it a try
Well, you can decide the gear if you have a preference. My last attempt i went something like black dhide body bandos tassy neitiznot helm zammy book rune cbow unholy necklace snakeskin boots, and i made it to the wave before jad and died from a ko. I had enough pots left for jad with that setup but its really up to you.
Im assuming you have done jad before because if you havent id rather you not do it because 1 trip can be kinda spendy.
I have done JAD before, not too long ago I did it on a pure with one defence 78 range
I suspect that you got more than 65 defence as you use bandos, so it'll be great with just that gear
Just shoot me a PM when you wish, I'm free today and tomorrow!
Alright sweet im glad you have done it before! To be honest you dont even have to do jad if you dont want to you can stop before him. I probably wont have you do it today because im a really busy person and i dont have time to buy gear and stuff today, but please send me a pm on what you want for an inventory. My stats are 89 hp 70 def 85 range 54 prayer. Because of your 1 def im guessing the invi setup is going to be a little different than on your pure. Il probably buy the gear and invi tomorrow and you will just have to tell me when you have time this week. Like i said im a very busy person so im not in a huge rush to get this done hopefully il get you going within a few days. Thanks
I'm collecting photos of finished JAD's. Going to open a store on Sythe while I get around 5-10 pictures(got 3 of them as of now, though I've done more JADs). So please let me finish him off?
For the gear, I'd like the best possible
Robin -> Verac's helm -> Archer helm
Fury -> Amulet of ranging -> Glory
Ava's device
Karils top -> Black d'hide top
Bandos Tasset(This helps a lot, saves damage from rangers)
Barrows gloves -> Black d'hide vamps
Ranger boots -> Snakeskin boots
Rune c'bow
Zammy book or if you got the cash dfs!
Bolts are really a matter of gp's, anything above mithril goes.
Make sure you have around 3k of them, just in case!
For pots, I'd like
4 Brews
4 Super restore
1 Range pot
and for the rest, prayer pots!
If you're having a hard time making up your mind, I can buy items for you before JAD.
Just leave the account at G.E
If not, just place it outside the cave
Also, ive attempted jad and have seen a lot of guides and there is no way in hell that 4 brews will be enough... I would think atleast 6 or 7?
4 brews is enough, you have a high defense.
If you wish to use 6, then sure go ahead. I'm very confident that 4 would be enough!
Surly for beginners 6 brews can be used, but trust me, 4 is enough
Amulet of ranging/Fury is way better, as the odds of me running out of prayer is very low.
Alright, I trust you. Will you be doing this today because il be sending you the password in like 5 minutes?
I'll do the first 30 waves now, and the rest when I wake up
Alright go time
Username:*****8 Password: ******
-If you dont like the setup or i forgot something just pm me quick il be home for another 30 minutes
I'd like to change one thing..
What's your pin?
2011-07-05 22:51:48
2011-07-05 22:52:09
From: josh81193
You really should screenshot the conversation, rather than copy/paste. (PrntScrn button, paste on MSPaint, save image, upload here)
2011-07-05 22:54:19
From: Huthaifah
Yeah, take a screenshot, that's not really anything, you could of wrote that yourself. Go into your inbox, take a damn screen shot, and go to tinypic.com won't take 2 mins.
2011-07-05 22:57:39
2011-07-05 23:00:44
From: Awkwardsaw
The text he provided doesn't make naike guilty, IMO
2011-07-05 23:06:56
2011-07-05 23:07:17
2011-07-05 23:14:56
From: Sixth Amendment of US Constitution
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
2011-07-05 23:15:39
From: Awkwardsaw
The text he provided doesn't make naike guilty, IMO
2011-07-05 23:16:36
From: Dgby714
I wanna just say two things…
1) Wrong section
2) This shouldn't of been public
There is a "Report Trading Abuse" button for a reason guys…. Yes this is trading, money for a service.
2011-07-05 23:18:29
From: Dgby714
I wanna just say two things…
1) Wrong section
2) This shouldn't of been public
There is a "Report Trading Abuse" button for a reason guys…. Yes this is trading, money for a service.
2011-07-05 23:49:39
From: Big Tom
You would never wear a robin hood on a main when doing jad.
2011-07-05 23:53:03
From: Capricorn
Well that really depends on your stats.
2011-07-05 23:54:55
2011-07-05 23:58:08
From: Huthaifah
I believe you. But, I'm just saying, it doesn't show he scammed you. Yes your right it is fishy if someone asks for your pin just for a ring of recoil, and seriously, no one wears robin hood to jad, armadyl helm, maybe.
2011-07-05 23:59:20
2011-07-06 03:42:43
From: Dervish
This is very much like a politician accused for rape.
2011-07-06 04:05:04
From: YoHoJo
NO MORE COMPLAINING ABOUT GETTING HACKED/SCAMMED ANYWHERE!
( http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65169 )
If you have problems related to black market/accounts/hacking etc report it properly here:
http://villavu.com/forum/misc.php?do=form&fid=2
This is between You, the Hacker/Scammer, and the Staff.
The rest of the community is unrelated in your case and pretty much anything/everything they post is useless. All of these threads just turn into big arguments about nothing and go nowhere!
E: Eh reopned I guess….
None of the two users have access to the BM(and therefor probably the reporting feature), but this thread is still pretty useless. Big Tom just PM a mod/admin about it and maybe outline some of your arguments/proof etc and a thread can be made in the Staff section where we can sort it out or somethin'.
2011-07-06 04:29:48
2011-07-06 04:34:53
From: cycrosism
Wait, so this scam didn't even involve SRL at all? Then why is SRL involved?
2011-07-06 05:18:00
From: masterBB
Cause when you bully another kid outside of the school, the teacher can still punish you
2011-07-06 05:55:31
2011-07-06 06:23:58
2011-07-06 06:47:44
From: KingKong
To everyone above me who came to a conclusion without looking at the evidence, you're all idiots. Bigtom hasn't posted any evidence so far and seeing as he still hasn't posted anything, im pretty sure he is making shit up.
2011-07-06 07:23:23
From: kingarabian
He has yet to post proof but I have a hunch that he is not telling a lie…
2011-07-06 08:37:15
2011-07-06 09:42:52
2011-07-06 10:49:35
From: Big Tom
No shit this is rediculous, having people like this here makes it feel like a java community seriously.
He hacked me like literly 15 minutes ago. He claimed he would do firecape for me and obviously that didnt happen. He not only took all my cash but he stripped all my items too.
2011-07-06 13:03:40
From: josh81193
This is the original thread. http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65146&highlight=fire+cape
Also, if you didn't read…
And I'm sure if he took real screenshots of his conversation you could see the time-frame of the event is probably accurate, and Fight Caves takes much longer than 15 minutes. Why would you need to see his IP? He GAVE him his password, he knew he was on his account and was PM'ing him while he was on his account with another account.
I guess you could make up this story, but what would be the point of that?
2011-07-06 13:14:56
From: Big Tom
Im glad someone is seeing how someone can be proven guilty withought being given an ip. Thank you.
Guys obviously I dont have his ip or i would have posted it a long time ago. I have already sent in a report with all the evidence that I have. I cannot post the picture of my inbox because i have my username and previous password in it. It was attached in the evidence in the report so they can take a look at it. When you read the conversation that i posted, just look at what gear he wants me to take? I had all the gear he requested, but when i let him on yet he still demands the bankpin. I offered to get back on and change it but he claimed he had dialup and that it takes him to long to log on. Bunch of crap but i bought it and gave him my pin. My last pm with him was asking him why he hacked me. If he really didnt hack me he would have atleast tried to tell me he didnt wouldnt he?
2011-07-06 13:22:11
From: Bionicle
Printscreen it and block it out with ms paint… not that difficult.
2011-07-06 13:31:09
From: Big Tom
Im using a labtop that im not normally using and I cant find ms paint and when i hit printscreen nothing happens…
Edit: nvm got it
2011-07-06 14:02:18
2011-07-06 14:07:28
From: Big Tom
Im using a labtop that im not normally using and I cant find ms paint and when i hit printscreen nothing happens…
Edit: nvm got it
http://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/rileys1214/?action=view¤t=proof.jpg
Can someone please tell me if that link works?
I have probably 3 more links il have to post if that works
2011-07-06 14:26:59
From: r!ch!e
Link works. You should probably show the sender of the pm though as that doesn't necessarily prove that naike sent those PM's.
2011-07-06 14:35:42
From: r!ch!e
Link works. You should probably show the sender of the pm though as that doesn't necessarily prove that naike sent those PM's.
2011-07-06 14:36:44
2011-07-06 14:41:32
2011-07-06 14:53:36
From: kingarabian
Okay its obvious Naike sent the Pm's… But we need a little bit more proof.
2011-07-06 15:13:50
From: Dgby714
There is no we, he needs to contact a admin and have this thread die….
Everyone mod- have no say in punishment like this.
2011-07-06 15:18:40
From: kingarabian
Admins probably know about this situation. Just leaves us to speculate.
2011-07-06 15:44:44
2011-07-06 15:46:57
From: Dervish
I call firebug html editing on that picture.
I'm just messing with you.
2011-07-06 15:49:32
From: Dervish
I call firebug html editing on that picture.
I'm just messing with you.
2011-07-06 15:53:37
From: Big Tom
Ha i dont even know what that means. That white color is pretty sneaky too :)
2011-07-06 16:06:40