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About a week an a half ago, i sold ashur 25m, and he only payed me 12 bucks (.50 cents per mill), and he was 50 cents short, he said he would pay me next week when he has more money in his paypal. he now is refusing to pay the .50 cents. i have msn chat logs as proof if needed. somebody please take action against this.

50 cts..

From: Dervish
50 cts..

i know its a small amount, but regardless he still owes me it. and exactly, if its just .50 cents, why cant he pay it?

Small amount, but it's still his obligation to pay the full amount.

From: Dervish
50 cts..

Its the fact that he wont pay. I remember failpailirl telling me about this about a week ago.

Wasnt Ashur2good banned from the market a while ago? Why was he allowed back in?

exactly, and he was going to buy 45m from me today, but i told him to go first because he owed me the .50 cents, and on top of that last time i gave him 20m, then after he gave it to me he said he didnt have any money, and if he didnt have it by tommorow he would give it back, so it took time out of my day doing something that i did not gain off of, so i was making him go first just to make sure he actually had the money this time, and for him owing me money from last time, and the hassle with that 20m.

Your "proof" picture does not show him refusing to pay you, in fact it shows him saying he will (by saying will do).

here is proof.

please tell me if you want any more proof, and if you want more, tell me what you want me to show as proof.

50 cts?! Really?
What about those people in the world who is living off 1 dollar a day, and here you are earning many times more than them, complaining about 50cts…

From: Zyt3x
50 cts?! Really?
What about those people in the world who is living off 1 dollar a day, and here you are earning many times more than them, complaining about 50cts…

im not complaining, he simply owes it, no discussion.

and what does this have to do with the people in the world living off of 1 dollar a day? and hes honestly been nothing but a hassle for me.

From: Failpailirl
im not complaining, he simply owes it, no discussion.

and what does this have to do with the people in the world living off of 1 dollar a day? and hes honestly been nothing but a hassle for me.

Yeah, sorry about that outrage… >_<

has anybody actually pmed ashur2good at all?

Haven't you?

well the only reason why i made this thread is that we were talking about an hour ago right before i made this thread, and i was asking when he was going to send the 50 cents, then he went offline on msn and hasent gotten back on

I agree with Failpailirl. He should definetly pay you.
However you should rather use the "Report trading abuse" tool than postin this here publicly.

From: antti mies
I agree with Failpailirl. He should definetly pay you.
However you should rather use the "Report trading abuse" tool than postin this here publicly.

where is that at?

im sorry if i would have known about that i would have just posted it there.

I think you should just get over it, to be honest.. It's 50 cents. Just pass it off as "oh, it's fine, I really don't need that 50 cents.. it is just 50 cents, after all." That way you look a little nice (and not like someone who complains about 50 cents of yours being "stolen," and you don't have to make a thread about it and start a stupid discussion over 50 cents (you didn't really make people start to discuss it, it's just what happens).

I would say that you should make him go first next time though, and if you're still gonna complain about $0.50, just don't sell to him. That's not always how business works. If a bus ticket is $1.50 and all I have is $1.17 or something and I try to get on the bus, should the bus driver let me on? I think so. It's just 33 cents in that case, but it's one of the best things that bus driver can do right then because I need a ride and he/she hopefully knows I at least tried to pay but I just couldn't right then, and it's not like he/she expects me to pay that extra 33 cents later, either. I'd just pay $1.50 the next time, like I (almost) always do.

Get over it.

From: i luffs yeww
I think you should just get over it, to be honest.. It's 50 cents. Just pass it off as "oh, it's fine, I really don't need that 50 cents.. it is just 50 cents, after all." That way you look a little nice (and not like someone who complains about 50 cents of yours being "stolen," and you don't have to make a thread about it and start a stupid discussion over 50 cents (you didn't really make people start to discuss it, it's just what happens).

I would say that you should make him go first next time though, and if you're still gonna complain about $0.50, just don't sell to him. That's not always how business works. If a bus ticket is $1.50 and all I have is $1.17 or something and I try to get on the bus, should the bus driver let me on? I think so. It's just 33 cents in that case, but it's one of the best things that bus driver can do right then because I need a ride and he/she hopefully knows I at least tried to pay but I just couldn't right then, and it's not like he/she expects me to pay that extra 33 cents later, either. I'd just pay $1.50 the next time, like I (almost) always do.

Get over it.

First off, he owes me it, regardless so idk what your rambling about, and he should just pay it, or give me a mill back. when he bought the gp, he made a promise that he was going to pay me the money, therefore he should.

second off, he was being rude and a hassle to me, therefore, i am going to be a hardass on him, and sorry for my language.

its not the fact that he owes me .50 cents (if he would have gone first instead of being so stubborn about it i would have probably not even made him pay the .50 cents.

From: i luffs yeww
I think you should just get over it, to be honest.. It's 50 cents. Just pass it off as "oh, it's fine, I really don't need that 50 cents.. it is just 50 cents, after all." That way you look a little nice (and not like someone who complains about 50 cents of yours being "stolen," and you don't have to make a thread about it and start a stupid discussion over 50 cents (you didn't really make people start to discuss it, it's just what happens).

I would say that you should make him go first next time though, and if you're still gonna complain about $0.50, just don't sell to him. That's not always how business works. If a bus ticket is $1.50 and all I have is $1.17 or something and I try to get on the bus, should the bus driver let me on? I think so. It's just 33 cents in that case, but it's one of the best things that bus driver can do right then because I need a ride and he/she hopefully knows I at least tried to pay but I just couldn't right then, and it's not like he/she expects me to pay that extra 33 cents later, either. I'd just pay $1.50 the next time, like I (almost) always do.

Get over it.

You could try seeing it from the other side too, rather than sounding ignorant. If it's just 50 ct, why can't he pay him? Not like he'll need it. etc.

In the end, he didn't pay Failpailirl for the goods he promised, aka stole from him.

By making this whole thing you're being no better than him. Maybe you should grow up about this. Again, if it's just $0.50, why do you have to reduce yourself to look this immature that you have to complain about pixels? Yes, it's a dick move to not pay for what you got, but it's also a dick move to then lower yourself to that same level to try to be "fair."

But clearly you won't get over it, so whatever.

From: josh81193
You could try seeing it from the other side too, rather than sounding ignorant. If it's just 50 ct, why can't he pay him? Not like he'll need it. etc.

In the end, he didn't pay Failpailirl for the goods he promised, aka stole from him.

Not like failpailirl needs it etc.

It is 50 cents, who cares? Really. Regardless of whether or not he owes you it, he still paid $12.00. If you give me your PayPal email I'll go ahead and send you 50 cents if you care about it that bad.

I think he should just pay. They made an agreement, and they should both keep their side of the agreement. Now it's 50 cents, but where do you draw the line? Next time it's $5 on $100, should you allow that too?

Anyway, I just skimmed this thread and I'm leaving the rest up to the market mods.

Lol 50 cent.
First, there is no need to whine in public about that. I can pay those 50ct yourself if it makes you happy but raging in public, trying to get the whole forums against him for only half a cheapass McDonalds hamburger? C'mon. That's pretty immature in my humble opinion. Yes, I understand the principle, but you aren't going to nuke an old lady in a house who can't even walk herself, as to make an analogy.
Oh he should pay, but have you thought about paypal transaction fees? Maybe he did pay $12.50 Paypal took 50 cent or is that outruled. But still it's a heavy tool you're using, maybe too heavy.
And maybe he went offline because he's got a life besides SRL? You only waited for an hour after you PM'ed him, which is really impatient. Usually for this kind of stuff there stands 24 to 48 hours. He's an aussie, he got school, it's daytime there.
The only action appropriate right now is to silence this thread and just wait for the weekend.

guys, i am not raging about this whatsoever.

he was just being so stubborn with me, that im not going to give him any leisure room whatsoever. if he would have been more straight foward and not trying to be as difficult with me this would not be an issue.

im not crying about .50 cents if thats what you guys are thinking, i mean, its .50 cents.

its the fact that he gave me such a hard time, made me waste about 30 mintues today walking around the duel arena arguing with him that im giving the gp first, dont you think you would be a little pissed?

you guys are looking at the big picture, not the smaller picture, its the fact that it is up to me whether to be a dick or not and demand the 50 cents, and since he gave me a hard time, i am giving him a hard time.

".50cents" is half a penny. :coolface:

From: Harry
".50cents" is half a penny. :coolface:

Rep'd ! [even tho its greyed out].

Just saw that .50 cents

Dude regardless he owes him that .50 cents.

It can be a rule of scamming now.

He just scammed Fail out of 50 cents, he just got 1 mil for free!

So seriously market mods,admins, devs stop saying "oh its just 50 cents, ill pay it" Really?

Are you trying to look like a total buttface?

Your giving the person who did the crime the right away just because its only 50 cents?

Like neilsie95 said, next time it will be $5, $10, and so forth. He should get a month ban imo.

That way next time he can think twice about trying to scam a member here at SRL forums.

They both made an agreement, he should stick to his end of the deal.

Stop acting like your rich and think you can afford .50 cents.

If so, PM me and add .50 cents to my paypal. Since you think your all that and a bag of potato chips.

ONE WHOLE 50 CENTS? Holy crap, if he doesn't pay be sure to sue him ASAP. This is a really big deal.

But yeah, there are people in china who work 12 hours a day making shoes for nike who only earn 50 cents an hour.

imo, its fine to make a thread like this. Its a public announcement that Ashure2good is a risk selling to and that they should be wary when doing business with him.

Pay up Ashure2good.

I think give ashur2good some time and if not then take actions that's all… Pointless in expressing how much 50cents is worth to your personal self and taking your eyes off the issue. Only adds to this crap…

From: cycrosism
ONE WHOLE 50 CENTS? Holy crap, if he doesn't pay be sure to sue him ASAP. This is a really big deal.

But yeah, there are people in china who work 12 hours a day making shoes for nike who only earn 50 cents an hour.

Stop it. Many people have already said things like this and OP has responded to them, you're just spamming and bothering him/people.

Alright. YoHoJo send him a message asking him to pay up and if he doesnt then ban him from the black market, because he didn't pay the price they agreed on.

I think everyone whining about 50 cents being an insignificant amount of money should send failpailirl 50 cents out of their own PP account.

You could all consider it a fee for whining about a legitimate complaint that had nothing to do with you.

well can i just say wow. there are 2 things i gota say and im not sure which should come first….

1:instead of rationalizing something how bout everone saves their breathe and lets hear ashurs side of the story….

2:in the case that he did cut you out of 50 cents, yes he should definitly pay. not only is this a perfect example of zero tolerence "scamming" (and i use that hella fkn loosly) but tara and niels are totally right.

yes this is insignificant but even if it was 1 fkn penny i would demand justice…obviously only for prinicple…

From: chitin


yes this is insignificant but even if it was 1 fkn penny i would demand justice…obviously only for prinicple…

because forgiveness for a .50 cent debt is asking SO much, (even if the guy didn't ask for it).

So a thread about getting hustled outta fity cent and we're SURE no one is butthurt… promise? Cross your heart hope to die, thousand needles in my eye?

-But dammit man, it's a scam! I got ripped, robbed, hustled, jewed and cheated!

The feeling hurts I know (being lied to), but sometimes homes, forgiveness makes it fell much better, way beyond any "righteous fury of justice" can vindicate this betrayal.

Just my perspective, carry on with the witch trial.

All i can say is money is still money

From: tarajunky
I think everyone whining about 50 cents being an insignificant amount of money should send failpailirl 50 cents out of their own PP account.

You could all consider it a fee for whining about a legitimate complaint that had nothing to do with you.

Thank you…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO22Z0T3qPE

HOLY SHIT. I honestly can't believe you went through all this trouble for half a dollar.

Look mate. If your gonna be fucken anal about it, I will too. Those 50 cents were the fees for the transactions. Where's the proof saying i'ld pay the fee?

EDIT: BTW. I also had people who still owed me MILLIONS (RSGP) for the guide that they said they'ld pay back. I let it go, and I asked them to donate instead. Not trying to act like a saint, but just showing the contrast of it and how you look like a complete fuckhead.

-Ashur

From: mastaraymond
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO22Z0T3qPE

instead of lazy mod your title should be funny mod..im glad someones enjoying themselves…

From: Ashur2Good
HOLY SHIT. I honestly can't believe you went through all this trouble for half a dollar.

Look mate. If your gonna be fucken anal about it, I will too. Those 50 cents were the fees for the transactions. Where's the proof saying i'ld pay the fee?

EDIT: BTW. I also had people who still owed me MILLIONS (RSGP) for the guide that they said they'ld pay back. I let it go, and I asked them to donate instead. Not trying to act like a saint, but just showing the contrast of it and how you look like a complete fuckhead.

-Ashur

Ignoring the last part of that post, you lies. In the second pic on the first page you can see that the money transferred was $12 and the fees reduced it by $0.12.

From: Rich
Ignoring the last part of that post, you lies. In the second pic on the first page you can see that the money transferred was $12 and the fees reduced it by $0.12.

edit:edit:edit: ………….. ….. …. why is there 3 edits? because i know when to leave this alone :redface: im no longer involved in this thread

Well you said you'd pay back that $.50, so irregardless of how much it is, you went against your word. Even sending failpailirl a PM telling him you'll just count the transactions fee as the $.50 you owed him would have been okay, but you never mentioned that either.

It's not a big deal or anything to get worked up about, it's about keeping your word, gaining trust, and knowing there's others you can trust.

From: Ashur2Good
HOLY SHIT. I honestly can't believe you went through all this trouble for half a dollar.

Look mate. If your gonna be fucken anal about it, I will too. Those 50 cents were the fees for the transactions. Where's the proof saying i'ld pay the fee?

EDIT: BTW. I also had people who still owed me MILLIONS (RSGP) for the guide that they said they'ld pay back. I let it go, and I asked them to donate instead. Not trying to act like a saint, but just showing the contrast of it and how you look like a complete fuckhead.

-Ashur

Last time i checked there is no fee when sending a gift on paypal.

From: Failpailirl
Last time i checked there is no fee when sending a gift on paypal.

There is in some cases. It's really dumb.

haha I seriously thought this was a joke thread but you are seriously concerned about the 50 cents its awesome. You sir just made my day a little brighter.

From: Blumblebee
haha I seriously thought this was a joke thread but you are seriously concerned about the 50 cents its awesome. You sir just made my day a little brighter.

uhh, cool story bro? a scam is a scam.

A scam is a scam..

Crossing the street when you shouldn't in France is illegal. Nobody makes a big deal out of it (unless someone dies).

So unless someone dies because of this, it does not diserve this amount of attention.

All I had to say.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080615064555AA6Jrsr

Clearly this is important.

I'll start by saying this is a massive circlejerk on the beliefs of the SRL community and this is what WT-Fakawi wanted to keep out by not having a black market.

First, I'd like to say that you should have reported this using the official form found here.

Second, I think everyone posting about people in China making .50c/hr is pathetic. Other countries have different economies meaning they have a different standard of living.

If what I've read is correct then Ashur2Good agreed to buy more gold than he could afford at the time of the exchange which is wrong. Then when it was time to pay up the .50c he didn't which breaks this rule:

Emphasis on the bold part.

From: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45404
Scamming: not keeping yourself to important agreements (like: I will pay you within 48 hours, and then they'll pay like 2 weeks later.)

My final thought on this subject is that Ashur2Good should pay Failpailirl the money he agreed upon when the deal was met. if not then he should be banned from the Market for however the mods feel is long enough for him to learn a lesson that when a deal is final you must stay true to your word and pay the final amount that is due or else accept the consequences.

I didn't feel like putting the effort into typing everything that Geo said, but he said what I wanted to pretty well. With the above being said, I think this thread should now be locked and black market mods/admins should talk with the two involved people and settle the matter, outside of this thread letting it die.

From: Geo
Second, I think everyone posting about people in China making .50c/hr is pathetic. Other countries have different economies meaning they have a different standard of living.

I'm not talking about people in China. I'm talking about people who are starving to death (I.E Some african people). Here he is making a big fuzz about a lousy 50c (which is like what… 2% or 3% of what he's earning at work each hour?) , when there's some people in the world haven't ate for days….

E: I didn't really want to go this far, but this is the kind of people that makes me sad for being a human.

You can't let yourself be walked all over all the time, you gotta stand up for what you think is right. And he felt like he was continuously being played. He already said he doesn't care about the amount, it's about honesty, and he never got his payment, along with a rough time. This has nothing to do with whether this 0.50 cents will help make him not die, or how much it's worth to him. He is standing up for himself and you guys are being rude by telling him he should stop whining when he is being seemingly mature about it, even after being attacked by 1/2 the people posting. A mod should end this thread, people just keep saying the same thing over and over, it's not getting anywhere. -_-

From: Zyt3x
I'm not talking about people in China. I'm talking about people who are starving to death (I.E Some african people). Here he is making a big fuzz about a lousy 50c (which is like what… 2% or 3% of what he's earning at work each hour?) , when there's some people in the world haven't ate for days….

E: I didn't really want to go this far, but this is the kind of people that makes me sad for being a human.

In case you didn't realize, this is a first world forum with first world problems. Its obvious that 50 cents isn't a big deal in terms of amount. Its more that a price was agreed on, and he ended up not paying that amount

Closed.

Both parties involved solve it through PM/MSN/PERSONALLY.

If you feel as if you have been scammed/the 50 cents is not payed then file a report here: http://villavu.com/forum/misc.php?do=form&fid=2

No more threads like this.