SRL Archive - Senior Discussions and Debates

The quote is from the movie lord of war.

Basically what it means is an analgoy for the implication of things.

Like for example I made 25 dollars buying and selling things on ebay (no I didn't actually do this)

Sure it's good fun and easy money, but in the grand scheme of things it's nothing.

Why keep playing around with small potatoes?

Runescape money is worthless, its low in demand and limitless in supply. What are mills now? $1 / 1.3mil?

Even if you could make some type of profit off it, even good, you are talking about getting slammed with lawsuits and probably losing them just like blizzard did with WoW

Anyways, enough rambling and onto the purpose of this thread.

SRL has bored me not because the lack of challenge or loss of interest in rs or anything like that. It's simply because the thrill in the beginning was to "make it big", I remember how it exiciting it was rolling out profits from bots like aryan or the early days of SRL.

I mean I can still roll out tons of gp like its nothing, but it doesn't feel the same anymore. It all feels worthless now.

I wonder if there's a way to apply the skills used here to the real world and make serious real life implications.

Obviously what we do here is hard to describe to other people who have never been here before, so what better place to bring this up.

It's just what's been on my mind lately

I've thought about the same type of thing honestly. The main problem with using our knowledge here in real life is that no one really uses Pascal for anything. Sure it's programming knowledge in general (which is good) but that only gets you so far.

Honestly, I think the implication of Python is the best thing for us ("older coders") as far as being able to use what we know in real life.

With the dramatic increase in the amount and visibility of bots in-game over the past months, it's only natural that the perceived value of our own efforts would decrease.

People are here for different reasons, but it seems obvious that at some point everyone was motivated by a desire to progress in-game.

Probably the only reason I ever got started here was because SCAR coding was Pascal based, which I had experience with long ago. I've still never attempted to branch out into new languages because they seem very foreign to me, and developing my coding skill is not a priority. For younger people that are interested in pursuing computers or coding as a career it would be beneficial to code in a more relevant language. But just seeing how sophisticated some of the SRL Devs have become is impressive to me, and I have always assumed that being part of this community has been part of that growth.

Like most things in life, what benefit you get out of an experience is more about the person than the situation. Being involved in continued maintenance and development of the include and of Simba could help develop valuable skills like dependability and responsibility that are nearly meaningless on a resume, but make a big difference in job performance.

From: NCDS
I've thought about the same type of thing honestly. The main problem with using our knowledge here in real life is that no one really uses Pascal for anything. Sure it's programming knowledge in general (which is good) but that only gets you so far.

Honestly, I think the implication of Python is the best thing for us ("older coders") as far as being able to use what we know in real life.

Well I mean, coming up with an idea first is the thing. If there was enough to be gained learning another language would be worth it.

Pascal itself probably never have any direct use, but using the same type of systems and logic could be applied to do something grand given the right planning.

Someone mentioned making a computer to play online poker, but I was thinking something more legal/easy.

I found that some of the concepts I learned here transfer to computer vision.

If you want to do something that could make some medium fucking potatoes, write a bitcoin exchange trading bot! It's easy to start out, there is not much to lose, and you gain all sorts of knowledge about currency exchange trends.

Interesting read…..when I first started using Scar, it reminded me alot of C.A.D. , which at the time I was struggling with, I haven't had a chance to reapply my skills, but I comprehend C.N.C. machines alot better now thanks to this community :)

I'm talking more of doing the same types of things we do here to apply it to the real world and make a killing for something that has never been done before, not necessarily skills useful for other/future careers.

Even if you could make some type of profit off it, even good, you are talking about getting slammed with lawsuits and probably losing them just like blizzard did with WoW

Jagex can't sue you for selling gp, lol. You can always claim that you randomly gave it for free, and that's not against the rules :)

From: IceFire908
I'm talking more of doing the same types of things we do here to apply it to the real world and make a killing for something that has never been done before, not necessarily skills useful for other/future careers.

I understand what you mean, racked my brains on this many a night also….Other than the sites for filling out surveys ? I know it's been done to an extent, but not to the scale of what resources has been devoted here for RS….

It doesn't really matter which language you use for programming, it all does the same except for syntax. Besides, what we really learn here is analyzing problems and solving them, which is a skill most of us use everyday.

P.S. First year of Comp Science is a piece of cake, due to my experience in programming learned here.

Hell of a Thesis…"Cheating in a video game has improved my Analytical Thinking" :)

From: RAM
Hell of a Thesis…"Cheating in a video game has improved my Analytical Thinking" :)

If you think about it, it's the lazy and cheating people who have made the great inventions.
When others carried heavy rocks one by one by hand, some lazyass invented a wheelbarrow.
Same thing with bicycle, calculator etc.

:garfield:

From: marpis
If you think about it, it's the lazy and cheating people who have made the great inventions.
When others carried heavy rocks one by one by hand, some lazyass invented a wheelbarrow.
Same thing with bicycle, calculator etc.

:garfield:

Hence

From: Kaitnieks
1.2. Q. Why is the Scar icon a bulldozer?

A. Quote from Kaitnieks – ‘Why do with a shovel what you can do with a bulldozer’

From: marpis
If you think about it, it's the lazy and cheating people who have made the great inventions.
When others carried heavy rocks one by one by hand, some lazyass invented a wheelbarrow.
Same thing with bicycle, calculator etc.

:garfield:

To be honest, this is a terrible analogy. Wanting to do more in the same amount of time and actually inventing something to do so seems to me to be a sign of great diligence, not laziness or desire to "cheat the system". I'm not sure how you could claim that inventions like the wheelbarrow, bicycle, or calculator were invented as a result of laziness or desire to sleight someone else without having been the inventor.

if you want to apply your skills to real life, then cut trees irl so you can sell the lumber for real money profits. and if you can develop a script so you don't have to be there while doing it, then even better!

Otherwise, you cant, unless the solution is really obvious like…programming job. Make an iphone game. involves programming and shit tons of money if its good.

From: marpis
If you think about it, it's the lazy and cheating people who have made the great inventions.
When others carried heavy rocks one by one by hand, some lazyass invented a wheelbarrow.
Same thing with bicycle, calculator etc.

:garfield:

I have always preferred to call it.."Working Smarter, not Harder" ;)

@ Dan, your neglecting to compensate for the Adrenaline Rush that is given when doing something that borders on legality issues….Ice ?

From: Dan Cardin
if you want to apply your skills to real life, then cut trees irl so you can sell the lumber for real money profits. and if you can develop a script so you don't have to be there while doing it, then even better!

Otherwise, you cant, unless the solution is really obvious like…programming job. Make an iphone game. involves programming and shit tons of money if its good.

Lol, cut trees.

Programming games is more of an art, like music or graphics.

Conventional programming careers takes degrees and years.

From: RAM
I have always preferred to call it.."Working Smarter, not Harder" ;)

@ Dan, your neglecting to compensate for the Adrenaline Rush that is given when doing something that borders on legality issues….Ice ?

Guys it's not an adrenaline rush to cheat the system.

It's the adrenaline rush of creating something that hasn't been done before and being rewarded with monetary value.

There's a good market for computer skills specifically related to automating tasks, which is essentially all botting is. I'm working in a lab right now and my current task is essentially to redesign the program that controls an experiment that laser-cools a cloud of Rb-87 atoms into a Bose-Einstein Condensate. (16 analog outputs, 24 digital outputs, and ~10 analog inputs along with serial/gpib communication and a few cameras) Where the lab would have usually hired a comp-sci major to do this, I know more about computing than any average comp-sci undergrad (and many grad students), and I'm a physics major, so I actually know how/why the experiment works. My point? If you're good at writing scripts (running them is useless, just saying) then you have a marketable skill. You just need to learn a real modern language, and find a place that needs it.

From: BenLand100
There's a good market for computer skills specifically related to automating tasks, which is essentially all botting is. I'm working in a lab right now and my current task is essentially to redesign the program that controls an experiment that laser-cools a cloud of Rb-87 atoms into a Bose-Einstein Condensate. (16 analog outputs, 24 digital outputs, and ~10 analog inputs along with serial/gpib communication and a few cameras) Where the lab would have usually hired a comp-sci major to do this, I know more about computing than any average comp-sci undergrad (and many grad students), and I'm a physics major, so I actually know how/why the experiment works. My point? If you're good at writing scripts (running them is useless, just saying) then you have a marketable skill. You just need to learn a real modern language, and find a place that needs it.

We agreed on 'communication' being the secret word, Ben is being held in an underground laboratory by the communists somewhere in Siberia, forced to invent something horrible!

From: n3ss3s
We agreed on 'communication' being the secret word, Ben is being held in an underground laboratory by the communists somewhere in Siberia, forced to invent something horrible!

Hah. That was actually pretty good. :)

I've actually found some freelancing that might offer a good kick

Someone yesterday was asking for a PuzzlePirates Puzzle solver willing to pay a few hundred dollars for one

I've been looking at www.freelancer.com

There's probably a lot of opportunities many of you would find useful for spare cash