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Have you been Banned for free trade?


Overtime

2011-04-28 10:14:48

I want to use my main to buy around 76~ rune hatchets. Then transfer the rune hatchets to each account.

DO you think i will be banned for this?

Should i transfer the 76~ rune hatchets to a mule, then use the mule to disperse the hatchets evenly to each account?

How hard are they on banning for transfering items to other accounts?

Is their a safe way to do it?

Iamadam

2011-04-28 10:16:38

We can't be sure yet. If the main is very important its probably not a good idea to let it have any contact with a bot army at all.

On the other hand, haven't seen many bans for this type of thing at all - so up till now its been pretty safe.

Overtime

2011-04-28 10:24:28

hmmmm, maybe ill buy 1mil and have put it on my bot, then disburse from their…

doublex8

2011-04-28 10:57:34

How do you usually get the botted goods from your army to your main (unless you don't send them to your main)?

Overtime

2011-04-28 10:59:30

i don't send botted goods to my main. Their all still their.

Echo_

2011-04-28 11:39:18

I traded about 20m in supplies from one account to another and I haven't run into any issues with Jagex, I'm pretty sure you'll be fine. If you feel that using a throw-away middleman account will be safer, then go for it.

Coh3n

2011-04-28 11:43:54

I haven't been banned yet, and I've transferred over 60M from my bots. I don't usually transfer specific amounts of cash (i.e. 5000k). I will transfer all the items then sell them on my main.

HarryJames

2011-04-28 11:49:21

I don't mind trading you the money across, i'll go first too :)

**BANNED The Man

2011-04-28 12:33:05

Trade gpeeez to mule then buy hatchets then send to bots.

KingKong

2011-04-28 20:54:51

IIRC jagex can still track the money thats been transferred to the middle man account which can then be traced back to the main, so its no use really, the only reason they don't ban for every little thing is due to the sheer number of trades going on each day, so you'll be fine even if u trade from main-bot directly.

Overtime

2011-04-28 20:58:16

Already taken care of :)

Thanks Harry.

Smartzkid

2011-04-28 21:08:36

Just for conversations sake, it may make sense to purchase more than you need - say, double - and then randomly gift a few. This would add to your 'credibility'..

P1nky

2011-04-28 21:19:28

i transfered abt 100m when ever the update was introduced. they change the rules?

HarryJames

2011-04-28 21:21:50

From: KingKong
IIRC jagex can still track the money thats been transferred to the middle man account which can then be traced back to the main, so its no use really, the only reason they don't ban for every little thing is due to the sheer number of trades going on each day, so you'll be fine even if u trade from main-bot directly.


I wanted like 2m swapping over anyway, so three trades took place!

Sgt Soul

2011-04-28 21:30:15

within the last month I have transferred over 120M+ between accounts and not one ban yet (between 10M-40M transactions) I presume you should be safe ;)

1337w33d

2011-04-28 23:22:14

I don't think it matters too much really. It's always a good precaution to not do it from your main, but I transferred supplies for a 10 man bot army first to my secondary main(Not for the purpose of less risk for ban, just out of convenience as I was playing on my main, while transferring the goods from secondary main to bots), from my main, and then distributed to all the accounts. Main & Secondary main both have 0 infractions.

TRiLeZ

2011-04-28 23:59:32

When free trade was released, I transferred 300m over to my main (some guy even reported me for rwt), and in the past 2 months, I've transferred about 30m from my suicide gold farmer to my main, who even got a macroing minor ban. I also have been banned in the past for rwt (50m bought from UsFine a year ago). :p

I am still ban free.

Sgt Soul

2011-04-29 00:25:06

From: TRiLeZ
When free trade was released, I transferred 300m over to my main (some guy even reported me for rwt), and in the past 2 months, I've transferred about 30m from my suicide gold farmer to my main, who even got a macroing minor ban. I also have been banned in the past for rwt (50m bought from UsFine a year ago). :p

I am still ban free.


you have had some bad luck TRiLeZ haha, only thing I got was 2 years ago minor macroing ban for suiciding TzHaar fight pits for 3 months, got 99 strength and 93 attack haha AND a 10 day ban, I have never had rwt bans :o

Floor66

2011-04-29 01:51:39

I have heard of someone transfering 1.2B (LEGIT staked cash) to his pure and the account getting reset.

grats

2011-04-29 03:39:54

No, I know hundreds of people who trade 100's of millions at a time all the time weekly, daily, no one has been banned

WT-Fakawi

2011-04-29 05:26:13

In discussions about banning under certain conditions it is vital to take into consideration that the banning mechanism is fully automatic. No human is ever involved in the banning proces.

So if it works…..you are fine. Always.

i luffs yeww

2011-04-29 06:18:01

From: WT-Fakawi
In discussions about banning under certain conditions it is vital to take into consideration that the banning mechanism is fully automatic. No human is ever involved in the banning proces.

So if it works…..you are fine. Always.


I completely disagree with this.

cycrosism

2011-04-29 06:31:22

No, and no one ever will get banned from trading one thing from one account to another. Unless its RWT, which I have seen bans been issued from

WT-Fakawi

2011-04-29 06:35:22

From: i luffs yeww
I completely disagree with this.


If you completely disagree, then why is there a Report Button?

i luffs yeww

2011-04-29 12:52:24

From: WT-Fakawi
If you completely disagree, then why is there a Report Button?


You said that there's no point the the report button, didn't you? :x You said it was fully automatic, which I have never seen proof of. I've used ClickMouse extensively, been stuck in randoms for half a day (not exaggerating), autoed for over 100 hours straight with no breaks, anti ban, or anything, and never been banned. I find it extremely hard to believe that if the banning processes is fully automatic, I'm not banned.

Overtime

2011-04-29 14:11:36

They may be doing what blizzard is doing, just letting everything slide, then BOOM mass ban wave.

But i have yet to see one from jagex even though they "claim" to ban over 30k bots per week.

Iamadam

2011-04-29 19:29:06

From: Overtime
They may be doing what blizzard is doing, just letting everything slide, then BOOM mass ban wave.

But i have yet to see one from jagex even though they "claim" to ban over 30k bots per week.


*hopes*

Echo_

2011-04-30 09:24:36

From: Overtime
But i have yet to see one from jagex even though they "claim" to ban over 30k bots per week.


I'm guessing those are all autotalkers advertising gold sites :D

grats

2011-04-30 10:05:41

From: WT-Fakawi
In discussions about banning under certain conditions it is vital to take into consideration that the banning mechanism is fully automatic. No human is ever involved in the banning proces.

So if it works…..you are fine. Always.


besides when the mods run around banning everyone?

WT-Fakawi

2011-04-30 15:51:08

From: grats
besides when the mods run around banning everyone?

Well, thats exactly my point. The automatic banning mechanism currently fails, because it is heavily outdated. We have introduced ways to work around the automatic banning: auto wisely for instance, tossed by SRL, multiarmy playerswitching, also tossed by SRL, days and night shifts, also by us, autoresponders, also us. List goes on and on. That was all new at the time, and Jackexck has not been able to come up with a proper response.

Hence explaining why the mod now turn to….manual ban aot. the failing automatic banning mechanisms.

Jackexck also completely lost the case against our friendly neighbours:norris:, leaving them little space other than manban, a blatant display of lack of control.

It is well known that the mayority of Runescape Players are in fact plain bots.

Markus

2011-04-30 16:03:51

From: WT-Fakawi
Jackexck also completely lost the case against our friendly neighbours:norris:, leaving them little space other than manban, a blatant display of lack of control.


They did? Is there any recent information on that somewhere?

Overtime

2011-04-30 16:44:14

who did they lose the case against? RSBot??

Tlachtli

2011-04-30 16:57:53

From: Overtime
who did they lose the case against? RSBot??


I thought it was RSBuddy, but I could be wrong. I'm about 95% it was one of the popular Java bots they were against.

From: Overtime
But i have yet to see one from jagex even though they "claim" to ban over 30k bots per week.


30k bans would hardly cover the autotalkers and the Essence suiciders. I doubt they ever get even the most blatant resource gathering bots.

cycrosism

2011-04-30 21:23:54

Those autotalkers are really annoying, like one time I saw some guy spamming to sell mills, then botted essence for 4 hours, came back, he is still there …

noidea

2011-04-30 23:45:46

From: Tlachtli
I thought it was RSBuddy, but I could be wrong. I'm about 95% it was one of the popular Java bots they were against.


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