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math problem bugging me


bolshak25

2011-04-14 18:16:23

any way to rewrite
A(n)=A(n-1) +A(n-2)^2
so i dont have to figure out each number individually?
3,8,17,81,370… etc.

YoHoJo

2011-04-14 20:55:38

Lol disregard this will edit later

Ogre

2011-04-14 21:02:25

F(1) = 3
F(2) = 8
F(x) = F(x - 2)^2 + F(x - 1)

dunno?

Method

2011-04-14 21:05:17

F(0) = 3
F(1) = 8
F(n) = F(n-1) + F(n-2)^2

Something like that, perhaps?

edit: It seems we've thought of the same thing.

bolshak25

2011-04-14 21:08:45

Yeah those work, but there has to be a way to write it so i dont have to find the other terms to get it. i want to be able to plug in 50 to get the 50th term without manually finding 48 and 49 terms

Ogre

2011-04-14 21:10:17

I'm pretty sure that's impossible.

YoHoJo

2011-04-14 21:13:10

http://i.imgur.com/VjNo1.jpg
There we go. That's my guess / it works.

Super ninjas!
<3 method!

i luffs yeww

2011-04-14 21:18:40

From: YoHoJo
http://i.imgur.com/VjNo1.jpg
There we go. That's my guess / it works.

Super ninjas!
<3 method!


Still recursive.

bolshak25

2011-04-14 21:19:48

updated first post again. im not sure if this new part is possible, just wondering. thanks everyone for this equation as is.

Awkwardsaw

2011-04-14 21:55:47

what do you mean by having to figure out each number individually?

bolshak25

2011-04-14 23:00:52

well as of right now you cant figure out say the 10th term without calculating every term before it, so id need to figure out the 6th and 7th and 8th and 9th to get that 10th term

i luffs yeww

2011-04-14 23:48:43

He just wants an exclusive equation, not a recursive one.

any_one

2011-04-15 00:47:27

You may be able to for a specific sequence, however you must define a(1) and a(2) before you can try to find a closed-form expression like you want. (ie. give the first two terms of the sequence :))

Also, there is no real set method for determining what the closed-form expression of a recursive sequence is, or even if such an expression exists as far as I know, so you'll just have to guess things I'm afraid.

Alternately you can try reading this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurrence_relation#Solving.

bolshak25

2011-04-15 15:57:28

yeah our teacher told us today that you cant write it better than what we already figured out and we needed 3 and 8 as term 1 and 2 for it to work at that point. thanks for the help though