SRL Archive - The Bashing Club / BBQ Pit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1VFMcbc :f:

Woohoo! Go ATI!

After watching first link. Watch this one for 20mins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnzdnYYiY1U&feature=feedu

1.7% woodscrews.

I still don't know why they chose to use those lol.

It makes no sense.

Let it burn… Let it burn.

Whats funny is this was caused by a bad driver. LOL and everyone says ATI drivers suck.

At least ATI don't release drivers that make your graphics card catch on fire! ha!

From: Overtime
Whats funny is this was caused by a bad driver. LOL and everyone says ATI drivers suck.

At least ATI don't release drivers that make your graphics card catch on fire! ha!

Mhmm I have ATI Radeon HD 4200… I have to say the graphics itself is insanely amazing.. Except the brightness and stuff sucks.. when u edit the default settings to custom ones, it just gets bad.. so default is where ur stuck at.

From: Overtime
Whats funny is this was caused by a bad driver. LOL and everyone says ATI drivers suck.

At least ATI don't release drivers that make your graphics card catch on fire! ha!

It only occurs when over-clocking it though

Will never buy an ati anymore. Bought twice a graphics card from them with a lack of openGL support. NVidea for the wins, though I know I've ignored your request to not look ;).

From: masterBB
Will never buy an ati anymore. Bought twice a graphics card from them with a lack of openGL support. NVidea for the wins, though I know I've ignored your request to not look ;).

Sounds like a user error?

From: Harry
Sounds like a user error?

probably.

You're dumb if you buy a 6990 or a 590, doesn't matter if it's AMD or nvidia.

From: Harry
Sounds like a user error?

I wrote a 3D C++ program, and there were small green boxes all over the edges… ETQW had the same problem. And openGL was like 10 times slower than with an nvidea card. Had no problems with directX though. Still pretty sure it was an hard ware issue;).

From: Capricorn
probably.

You're dumb if you buy a 6990 or a 590, doesn't matter if it's AMD or nvidia.

Right now its dumb to buy one, but once Sapphire, MSI, Gigabyte 6990's drop prices on Black friday ill be buying.

Thats the best time to upgrade, Black Friday, and After Christmas

known problem for a while now, it's when overclocking.. the GPU destroys anything else on the market right now



that being said.. if you buy a gpu that's the newest generation you=dumb

From: Overtime
Right now its dumb to buy one, but once Sapphire, MSI, Gigabyte 6990's drop prices on Black friday ill be buying.

Thats the best time to upgrade, Black Friday, and After Christmas

If you buy a 6990 in November I'll laugh because there is a good chance Southern Islands will be out by then.

From: grats
known problem for a while now, it's when overclocking.. the GPU destroys anything else on the market right now



that being said.. if you buy a gpu that's the newest generation you=dumb

the 590 doesn't "destroy" anything on the market. Unless by "destroy" you really mean it beats the 6990 in half the battles.

Yes, absolutely annihilated. I won't even comment on the second thing.

From: Overtime
Whats funny is this was caused by a bad driver. LOL and everyone says ATI drivers suck.

At least ATI don't release drivers that make your graphics card catch on fire! ha!

Technically it wasnt the driver's fault. If they hadn't even tried to overclock it this wouldnt have happened.

iirc the driver issue was that it didnt limit the overclocking when issues were occurring.

From: noidea
Technically it wasnt the driver's fault. If they hadn't even tried to overclock it this wouldnt have happened.

iirc the driver issue was that it didnt limit the overclocking when issues were occurring.

IMPORTANT: The supplied Geforce Drivers 267.52 for Geforce GTX 590 will not stop the card from overheating when overclocking. Please use newer versions from the Nvidia website and stay away from 267.52. Otherwise this may happen …

Benchmark running was 3DMark 11. Settings used during card failure:
GPU Clock @ 772 MHz
GPU VCore @ 1,025 V

Basically the card destroyed it self because it didn't limit itself when it detected its temperatures getting higher. Hence, why the next drivers fixed this problem and help set a "limit" on the card for better detection.

(If you watch the 20 min, Newegg video, he mentions all this.)

The company is called "SweClockers". Its there job to this since they have a youtube channel and get paid to put videos like that up.

Everyone's uncle will always try to Overclock something, why else would Nvidia release a Overclocked edition of the 590?

The Southern Islands might be overprices since they will be released around that time. And buying a 7000 series graphics card may be overkill for everything i might need. Besides a 6990 will last a good 5-8 years. Till ill need a upgrade. We can only wait and see as there is still little information given as the conference is being taken in June, who knows whats going to go down.

Yes, I'm not pants on head retarded. I know the scenario and I explained it in my post. My point is that if they hadn't overclocked, this wouldnt have happened.

Hmm makes no sense though. Nvidia releases a overclocked edition, but yet you can't overlock it no more?

I overclocked a 5 year old Graphics card and it didn't "overheat" itself.

If there going to release a $730 card and drivers, they should make sure there tested at the fullest.

Again company is "SweClockers" I guess, they should just sit on there chairs drinking tea. It's not like they were upset about it that much either. Legitmate business like those get free stuff to test to its limits to "help" promote there products.

Obviously Nvidia failed at that. I'm sure they got a replacement.

soldered onto a real slab of a circuit board. Nvidia has tweaked clock speeds to fit: the 772MHz cores have been reined in to 607MHz, the 1,544MHz shader clock to 1,224MHz, and the combined 3GB of GDDR5 memory from 4,008MHz to 3,420MHz.

Read more: Nvidia GeForce GTX 590 review | Graphics cards | Reviews | PC Pro http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/graphics-cards/366265/nvidia-geforce-gtx-590#ixzz1ItiDeZJG

That edition there using is at 630mhz stock. The gpu can run at 772mhz but have been downed a notch so that it can be "stable" upon release. These guys pushed it to 772, and it was running great im sure, but it just couldn't control its temps upon overclocking.

Besides there new drivers fixed this.

Tests have to be done to fix bugs. These guys had to do it.

From: noidea
Technically it wasnt the driver's fault. If they hadn't even tried to overclock it this wouldnt have happened.

iirc the driver issue was that it didnt limit the overclocking when issues were occurring.

Yea wasn't really anything except the users fault.. overclocking isn't a "have to do" so..

the funniest part is they overclock such a powerful card when there's no game made that even challenges cards with half the power

From: grats
Yea wasn't really anything except the users fault.. overclocking isn't a "have to do" so..

the funniest part is they overclock such a powerful card when there's no game made that even challenges cards with half the power

From what I understood the card was pre-overclocked.

From: Dgby714
From what I understood the card was pre-overclocked.

I thought that too but..

When newegg got the evga card the guy was saying it was underclocked slightly.. that was the first card being on video though so idk..

the first video of it blowing up I saw the guy overclocked it himself.. the way they talk in this thread it seems like the people are OCing it themselves too? :confused:

From: grats
the funniest part is they overclock such a powerful card when there's no game made that even challenges cards with half the power

wut. Half a 590 is a 580. A 580 certainly doesn't play every game max settings. And neither does a 590.

And that isn't even mentioning multiple monitors where the 590 would take a beating from the 6990 due to lower GDDR.

From: Capricorn
wut. Half a 590 is a 580. A 580 certainly doesn't play every game max settings. And neither does a 590.

And that isn't even mentioning multiple monitors where the 590 would take a beating from the 6990 due to lower GDDR.

Please tell me which game I can't run on max settings with even my 460? Please.. because certainly I haven't found one.

GTA IV

And i mean everything.

Even view distance shadows all at 100

My 5770 can't do it, and the 460/5770 are almost identical when it comes to benchmarks

i dont have a prefrence but rite now i have an nvidia gts450. btw i have 19-20 fps in gta 4 is that good or bad?

From: mika
i dont have a prefrence but rite now i have an nvidia gts450. btw i have 19-20 fps in gta 4 is that good or bad?

bad

From: Overtime
GTA IV

And i mean everything.

Even view distance shadows all at 100

My 5770 can't do it, and the 460/5770 are almost identical when it comes to benchmarks

Yea it runs on my gfx card fine.. not the best(obviously) but on max settings it's perfectly playable…?

This means my graphics card that is half the power or less vs a 580… can run it.. so 580 would run it with ease

and two 580's is overkill by far

All I want to get at is the graphics cards we have out aren't needed for any games.. for a long while


and overclocking them is silly.

Wow. I love nvidia but im high so idk what i think… I need money.

ATI will always be the way to go. The reason why Nvidia made the price 700 dollars to compete with the 6990 is because it got destroyed in 09-10 by ATI.

From: grats
Yea it runs on my gfx card fine.. not the best(obviously) but on max settings it's perfectly playable…?

This means my graphics card that is half the power or less vs a 580… can run it.. so 580 would run it with ease

and two 580's is overkill by far

All I want to get at is the graphics cards we have out aren't needed for any games.. for a long while


and overclocking them is silly.

Come back when your 460 can run Metro 2033 at 2560 x 1600 max settings with 120 fps (which would max out a 120 hz monitor, which is enough for 3d)

And please, you can't really compare two GPUs and say one is "half the power". It doesn't work that way. (especially when comparing a 460 to a 580!)

You seem to be under the assumption that people buying multiple GPU only have one monitor. But if these people are dropping $1500 on GPUs they certainly have enough money to have 3 monitors running 5760 x 3240. And believe me, no card on the market would be able to run Crysis or Metro at that resolution with max settings. Just look at the 590 - it already loses to the 6990 because the 6990 has more vram at high resolutions.

I don't need to max out boring games..

I can run SC2 & WoW on separate monitors with 50+ fps on each

when humans can make a legit reason for needing more, lmk

From: grats
I don't need to max out boring games..

I can run SC2 & WoW on separate monitors with 50+ fps on each

when humans can make a legit reason for needing more, lmk

Boring or not… he just proved to you a game that your 460 cannot run :).

From: kingarabian
Boring or not… he just proved to you a game that your 460 cannot run :).

That wasn't the argument

My 460 can run that.. it would be laggy? yes

It was whether 590 is needed or not.. which it still definitely isn't

From: grats
That wasn't the argument

My 460 can run that.. it would be laggy? yes

It was whether 590 is needed or not.. which it still definitely isn't

No see, you think your opinion is fact. I adamantly believe buying into x-GPU setups is a waste of money, but if you want to take advantage of a 120 hz screen + 3D you don't have any choice unless you drop down the graphics.

And I don't consider that a GPU can play a game max if it doesn't break 60 fps. A 460 does not play Crysis at 60 fps, or Metro or STALKER at 1080p, which is native resolution for almost every LCD over $120.

inb4 there's no difference between 30 fps and 60 fps

If you had said, "my 460 can run everything max that I care for" you would have gotten away by saying that. You are obviously not the people AMD and nvidia are targeting with their dual GPU, so you'd never see the benefit to owning one.

Bumping this thread to remind everyone to buy an ATI. :thumbsup:

From: Overtime
Bumping this thread to remind everyone to buy an ATI. :thumbsup:

Get an APU with that. Eat it Intel.

From: Silent SPY
Get an APU with that. Eat it Intel.

Apu's?

Yeah, stands for Accelerated Processing Unit. It's a cross between a normal CPU and a graphics card. I believe AMD is the only company that makes them right now, or at least I haven't seen one from Intel. The current ones are quad-core CPU's with GFX chipset also embedded in the APU.

See:
newegg

EDIT:
Here is the Tech Specs:
Core: Llano
Multi-Core: Quad-Core
Name: A8-3850
Operating Frequency: 2.9GHz
L2 Cache: 4MB
Manufacturing Tech: 32 nm
64 bit Support: Yes
Virtualization Technology Support: Yes
Integrated Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 6550D
Thermal Design Power: 100W
Cooling Device: Heatsink and Fan included

From: Silent SPY
Yeah, stands for Accelerated Processing Unit. It's a cross between a normal CPU and a graphics card. I believe AMD is the only company that makes them right now, or at least I haven't seen one from Intel. The current ones are quad-core CPU's with GFX chipset also embedded in the APU.

See:
newegg

EDIT:
Here is the Tech Specs:
Core: Llano
Multi-Core: Quad-Core
Name: A8-3850
Operating Frequency: 2.9GHz
L2 Cache: 4MB
Manufacturing Tech: 32 nm
64 bit Support: Yes
Virtualization Technology Support: Yes
Integrated Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 6550D
Thermal Design Power: 100W
Cooling Device: Heatsink and Fan included

So it's just like a regular quad core chip that you place in an am3+ socket?

No, unfortunately it runs on a new socket. FM1

The A8-3850 isn't worth it until it drops in price a little bit.

Otherwise you're better off buying a regular budget build. Where Llano really shines are laptops though. There they have Intel beat on performance/battery life and that's quite amazing. Actually it makes Intel look like a bitch, it was a real shocker when I read the battery life on Llano laptops.

Intel's CPUs are still faster but their integrated GPU sucks dick, so it's still all comes down to what are you willing to trade for what… Battery Life? GPU? CPU?

<3 ati/amd.!

Currently have A HD 5870/2G/dis version, and a AMD Phenom 955 X4 BE

it pwns…

From: ssh0rty4
<3 ati/amd.!

Currently have A HD 5870/2G/dis version, and a AMD Phenom 955 X4 BE

it pwns…

I only have a HD 5670 1G… and a Athlon dual core…. Don't remember the model but it's 2.8Ghz

From: Silent SPY
I only have a HD 5670 1G… and a Athlon dual core…. Don't remember the model but it's 2.8Ghz

Phenom 6 here and a 5750 1gb and running solid.

From: kingarabian
Phenom 6 here and a 5750 1gb and running solid.

Phenom 6? I'm super jealous… 5750 is pretty good from what I've heard… Even my 5670 plays pretty much everything on full.

Im on a 5770 1gb saphire pre-overclocked. with a OLD Phenom x4 9950.

Its overclocked to 3.0ghz from 2.6ghz

Will be saving up soon to get a 1100T. :)

Ive been doing mass botting lately. Racking up around 1.5m daily.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127575

running on this card atm, it is soo lovely

badass, did you unlock it to the 6970?

From: grats
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127575

running on this card atm, it is soo lovely

oh my ………. That almost made me crap myself.

EDIT: @ Overtime, Sapphire ftw!

From: Overtime
badass, did you unlock it to the 6970?

naw I have it running a little above how it comes, even running a game on each of my monitors the card isn't fully used so I have no reason to run it hotter lol

From: Overtime
Im on a 5770 1gb saphire pre-overclocked. with a OLD Phenom x4 9950.

Its overclocked to 3.0ghz from 2.6ghz

Will be saving up soon to get a 1100T. :)

Ive been doing mass botting lately. Racking up around 1.5m daily.

Offtopic, but JESUS CHRIST either 100x your army or change money making method, 1.5m daily wouldn't even cover for the electricity it took to have the computer on during the night -.-

I bought a GT 430 the other day. Did I make a big mistake?

From: Mr. Doctor
I bought a GT 430 the other day. Did I make a big mistake?

Not really… Even though I like ATI a lot, Nvidia still makes nice GPU's. It all depends… Sure there are better cards but it should play games decently.

From: n3ss3s
Offtopic, but JESUS CHRIST either 100x your army or change money making method, 1.5m daily wouldn't even cover for the electricity it took to have the computer on during the night -.-

so you're saying I should have bots on my "server" machine that has 8 cores and 8gib of ram?

From: n3ss3s
Offtopic, but JESUS CHRIST either 100x your army or change money making method, 1.5m daily wouldn't even cover for the electricity it took to have the computer on during the night -.-

Heh, well i guess it doensn't matter since i dont pay the electric bill :P

But once i get enough mils, i will sell them. and make more premium accounts and start botting members.

This is just botting on F2p and you cant make that much money very fast. But i plan on doubling my army once i get a 1100t, as it can only handle 10 RSBuddy bots running at 100% load for 48 hours.

From: kingarabian
Not really… Even though I like ATI a lot, Nvidia still makes nice GPU's. It all depends… Sure there are better cards but it should play games decently.

Ahh thank you. Didn't want to make a mistake buying a card so I would have to buy another.

Do you think does card would bottle neck a Phenom II X4? And if I unlock it to a hex-core? The MSI board said it can unlock hidden cores. Also, if I save up enough I might consider buying a newer ATI card.

From: Mr. Doctor
Ahh thank you. Didn't want to make a mistake buying a card so I would have to buy another.

Do you think does card would bottle neck a Phenom II X4? And if I unlock it to a hex-core? The MSI board said it can unlock hidden cores. Also, if I save up enough I might consider buying a newer ATI card.

It should not bottleneck your Phenom. It shouldn't unless there are some software conflicts between drivers lol. In fact getting a good GPU relives stress off your CPU in a lot of cases. Thats from my experience and what I read around.

From: Mr. Doctor
Ahh thank you. Didn't want to make a mistake buying a card so I would have to buy another.

Do you think does card would bottle neck a Phenom II X4? And if I unlock it to a hex-core? The MSI board said it can unlock hidden cores. Also, if I save up enough I might consider buying a newer ATI card.

Well… Where to start…

First off a 430 isn't really fast, at all. And compared to AMD's offerings it's kinda… mediocre. I can't decide for you if you made a mistake buying the card, but AMD's options at that level beat the 430 in the majority of the benchmarks (iirc)

Nvidia's lower tiers just weren't that exciting this time around.

As to bottlenecking a CPU… no, that doesn't really happen. A CPU can bottleneck a GPU but not really the other way around.

Onto unlocking cores, the Phenom II X4's are different dies from the Phenom II X6's, so no, there are no cores for you to unlock.

As to saving up money for a higher tier card - maybe, your choice. AMD is shipping their new series sometime September or October. Or is that sales launch? Honestly I can't remember but they'll be available soon.

Thanks. I will definitely buy a new card when I order some new parts. The 5770 is twice-thrice as fast as the GT 430.

I should have definitely looked more instead of blatantly buying a card. But buying a quad core seems sufficient enough. Is there a website that shows card releases, new computer stuff and such? Seems I'm pretty late on everything here. Seeing stuttering in my games when playing with my Pentium 4. Right when the action begins, too.