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VPS for botting?


Floor66

2011-03-22 11:03:30

I was thinking of buying a VPS to use for botting since my mother doesn't like it when I leave my PC on all night.

I have no idea what to look for, though. I guess that having Ubuntu shouldn't be an issue since Simba can work on Ubuntu with WINE.

I'm looking for a pretty low-cost per month VPS so I could perhaps support it off of the money I make off of gold farming on it. The method I use yields me about 80k/h per-Simba (so 2 simbas=160k/h, etc.).

How much MB RAM should I be thinking of? Disk space and bandwith should be fine with whatever I choose.
Simba uses about 250MB per instance, right? I want to run 2 or max. 3 at a time.

Also, what is "Swap" for, exactly? I know it has something to do with when you use up all your RAM that you don't get errors and stuff, right?

From what I've seen so far, "Versio" is the best choice for me. It's located in the Netherlands.

They have quite a few options.
First of all, it's divided in "Starter" and "Expert" packages.
The difference is just in the bandwith (Expert has x2) and Starter has "OpenVZ" whereas Expert has "Xen". What's the difference between those?
Furthermore, both of them are divided into "Light", "Medium" and "Large" with…
  • RAM:
    • Light: 256MB, 512MB Swap
    • Medium: 512MB, 1024MB Swap
    • Large: 1024MB, 2048MB Swap
    • HD Space: 30, 60, 150GB respectively
    • All have the choice of CentOS, Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu
    • All are "SolusVM"
    • All have 1 IP address
    • Costs "Starter" packages: EUR 4.95, EUR 8.95, EUR 14.95 respectively
    • Costs "Expert" packages: EUR 7.95, EUR 14.95, EUR 24.95 respectively

    Are these good prices? The company is rated 97/100 by ISPGids.nl (dutch independent rating website for dedis, vpss, webhosting, etc.).

    Thanks in advance! Hope I provided sufficient information, else just ask me!

    P.S.:
    Why are the Expert packages so much more expensive? Is the difference between Xen and OpenVZ that big?

    cause

    2011-03-22 14:55:37

    This is a great question, I'm wondering the same thing. Also, would this VPS provide enough CPU?

    Floor66

    2011-03-22 15:00:01

    I believe they're on quad-core xeon's. So yes, probably.

    weequ

    2011-03-22 15:17:04

    I also consider buying a VPS. As far as I have heard xen is used for botting. (Others might not allow you to run java applets).

    Some quite popular VPS' among botters are photonvps.com and seerhost.com.

    Also here are some tutorials I have bookmarked:
    sythe.org/showthread.php?p=8127437
    sythe.org/showthread.php?t=977316
    rsbuddy.com/forum/%5Bcentos%5D-ultimate-vps-guide-%5Bsetup-gui-bots%5D-1053.html

    cause

    2011-03-22 15:45:33

    http://www.lowendbox.com/

    Great review site of cheap vps'z. They offer discounts with promo codes.

    Capricorn

    2011-03-23 03:29:01

    Lol I think any cheap VPS hoster would kick you off for using too much CPU. To get prices cheap they have to oversell their product enough.

    cause

    2011-03-24 23:46:31

    http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/w2servers-24year-openvz-vps/

    I just bought a year. Haven't touched it yet, will post with updates.
    EDIT: Just a thought, the company was fairly quick at opening my account up.
    EDIT2: Ok I've setup ubuntu (with some help off of IRC Dgby and noidea and wizzup :D!) here are some benchmarks and tests:
    System Benchmarks Index Values               BASELINE       RESULT    INDEX
    Dhrystone 2 using register variables 116700.0 8637490.5 740.1
    Double-Precision Whetstone 55.0 3349.8 609.0
    Execl Throughput 43.0 2627.4 611.0
    File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 3960.0 344924.7 871.0
    File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1655.0 94557.0 571.3
    File Copy 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 5800.0 684940.1 1180.9
    Pipe Throughput 12440.0 586340.4 471.3
    Pipe-based Context Switching 4000.0 184583.7 461.5
    Process Creation 126.0 8694.8 690.1
    Shell Scripts (1 concurrent) 42.4 3936.9 928.5
    Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 6.0 510.9 851.5
    System Call Overhead 15000.0 449835.3 299.9
    ========
    System Benchmarks Index Score 650.7

    And:
    16384+0 records in
    16384+0 records out
    268435456 bytes (268 MB) copied, 3.282 s, 81.8 MB/s (IO Speed)
    root@thingman:~#
    root@thingman:~# wget -O /dev/null http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
    --2011-03-26 22:18:07-- http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
    Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 205.234.175.175
    Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|205.234.175.175|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'

    100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 9.85M/s in 10s

    Hugolord

    2011-04-09 10:31:38

    any updates on this? are you using it to bot? seems interesting..

    Floor66

    2011-04-09 10:32:39

    Kinda got burried in schoolwork/projects, haven't botted a lot so I didn't look into VPSs more. Will give it more thought in the near future though!

    Sex

    2011-04-09 12:26:17

    I'm hosting one for Camaro ;). 5m/month xD.
    I can host 1 more, I have 1 more box atm. Any distro you want :p. VNC + SSH.

    Hugolord

    2011-04-09 12:49:28

    From: Sex
    I'm hosting one for Camaro ;). 5m/month xD.
    I can host 1 more, I have 1 more box atm. Any distro you want :p. VNC + SSH.


    may take you up on that in a little over a month (after exams are over)

    Sex

    2011-04-09 12:51:55

    Alright, just PM me :p.

    nhawkesn

    2011-05-18 19:54:08

    botting with 3 at a time, your barely going to break even

    Camaro'

    2011-05-18 22:45:05

    I have two V(irtual) P(rivate) S(erver)s one which has a guaranteed ram of 512MB (1GB Burst) and the other is 1GB guaranteed RAM (2GB Burst).

    The only botting you will most likely do on a linux distro is with a java bot. I couldn't even get RSBuddy or RSBot(before this hacking scene) to run on that, so I just use all my RAM to host a minecraft server. This is 6$ a month, which is paid each month (like RS) because of a 25% discount.

    My other one is usually hosting a minecraft server, but often times I will shut that off to bot using RSBuddy. This one is 10.50 a month after the 25% discount.

    I love using VPS(s).