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How Long have You Played Runescape?
10 Year(s)


Are you affilated in anyway with Jagex LTD?
No

Were you Referred to SRL?



What is your general programming knowledge?
HTML (and CSS, JavaScript), PHP, VB, A teensy bit of JavaScript & Pascal


Are you a member of any other communities?
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forums.digitalpoint.com
and about 100 others…


Tell us about yourself…

From: Putnam
I hand out at #SRL and decided I'd take a stab at becoming a member after being here for 3 years. :P
Most of my free time is spent on computers. I like to trade stocks.
If you want to know more just ask around.

I haven't really played RS for 10 years+ but my oldest account was made in 2001. I rarely play RuneScape.

Please show us one (or multiple) of your scripts.

program PutnamsCowRaper;
{$i SRL/SRL/misc/smart.scar}
{$i SRL/SRL.scar}
{$i Reflection/Reflection.simba}


//{---- Putnam's Cow Raper! ----}///
//{------- Version: 0.12 --------}///
//{--- Start at Lumby Castle ---}///

/////////// --Features-- ///////////
//Cow Hide and/or Raw Beef Banking//
/////////////Reflection/////////////
/////////Beefy Bill Banking/////////
///////////Multiple Players/////////
{----------------------------------}
/////// --Upcoming Features-- //////
/////////////SRL-Stats//////////////
//////Accurate Progress Reports/////
/////////////Loads To Do////////////
///////////Cowhide Tanning//////////
///////////World Switching//////////
//////////////Deathwalk/////////////
////////////////////////////////////
{---Credits---)
#SRL
People from #SRL
end Credits---}
{Official Support Thread: [url]http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62508[/url] }


procedure DeclarePlayers;
begin
  HowManyPlayers := 1; //How many players do you want to run in this script?
  NumberOfPlayers(HowManyPlayers);
  CurrentPlayer := 0;

  with Players[0] do
  begin
    Name := 'Username'; // Username
    Pass := 'password'; // Password
    Nick := 'rnam'; // 3-4 lowercase letters from middle of username
    Active := True; // Will you be using this player?

    //Booleans[0] := True; //Would you like to take breaks? {-- Not Functional Yet --}
    Booleans[1] := True; //Collect Beef?
  end;

{Simply remove the brackets in order for more players.
Do not forget to change HowManyPlayers!}

{  with Players[1] do
  begin
    Name := '';
    Pass := '';
    Nick := '';
    Active := True;

    //Booleans[0] := True; //Would you like to take breaks? (if False, when you obtain the specified amount of cowhides, script will log out)
    Booleans[1] := True; //Collect Beef?
  end; }

{  with Players[2] do
  begin
    Name := '';
    Pass := '';
    Nick := '';
    Active := True;

    //Booleans[0] := True; //Would you like to take breaks? (if False, when you obtain the specified amount of cowhides, script will log out)
    Booleans[1] := True; //Collect Beef?
  end; }

{  with Players[3] do
  begin
    Name := '';
    Pass := '';
    Nick := '';
    Active := True;

    //Booleans[0] := True; //Would you like to take breaks? (if False, when you obtain the specified amount of cowhides, script will log out)
    Booleans[1] := True; //Collect Beef?
  end; }
end;

Var
I, gained, banked, deaded, ReportTimer :integer;

{--You do not have to edit anything after this line, you're good to go!--}



procedure AntiBan;
Var
  X, Y : Integer;
begin
  case random(40) of
   0..4: BoredHuman;
   5..9: MakeCompass('N');
   10..14: PickupMouse;
   15..19: HoverSkill('random', false);
   20..24: Wait(50 + Random(2000));
   25..29:
     begin  //Random Gametab
        for I := 0 to Random(2) do
          GameTab(21 + RandomRange(0, 16));
      end;
   30..34: begin
            MMouse(Random(500), Random(500), Random(MIX2), Random(MIX2));
            Wait(200 + Random(100));
            if IsUpText('xamine') then
              begin
                GetMousePos(X, Y);
                Mouse(X, Y, 0, 0, False);
                Wait(200 + Random(100));
                ChooseOption('xamine');
              end;
           end;
   35..39: RandomRClick;
   40: IdleTime(Random(5000), 2, 5.2);
   end;
   GameTab(Tab_Inv);    //Selects inventory tab
end;

function OpenGate: Boolean;
var
  TheGate: TRSObject;
  MSPos: TPoint;
begin
  TheGate:= GetObjectByID(45208, OBJECT_TYPE_WALLOBJECT, 15);
  MSPos:= TileToMS(TheGate.Tile, 10);
  Mouse(MSPos.x, MSPos.y, 0, 0, False);
  Result:= ChooseOptionMulti(['pen', 'ate']);
end;

procedure GetLoot;
var
  items: TGroundItemArray;
  TempMS: TPoint;
  CowHide, Beef: integer;
begin
  if not LoggedIn then
    Exit;
  Items := GetItemsNear(6);
  if GetArrayLength(Items) > 0 then
  begin
    for CowHide := 0 to high(items) do
    if items[CowHide].ID = 1739 then // Cow Hide ID #1739
    begin
      TempMS := TileToMSEx(Items[CowHide].Tile, 0.5, 0.5, 0);
      Mouse(TempMS.X, TempMS.Y, 1, 1, false);
      if R_WaitOption('owhide', 1000) then
        IncEx(gained,1);
        IncEx(deaded,1);
        IncEx(Players[CurrentPlayer].Integers[0],1);
        Wait(400+Random(500));
    end;
  end;
  if Players[CurrentPlayer].Booleans[1] = True then
  begin
    for Beef := 0 to high(items) do
    if items[Beef].ID = 2132 then // Raw Beef ID #2132
    begin
      TempMS := TileToMSEx(Items[Beef].Tile, 0.5, 0.5, 0);
      Mouse(TempMS.X, TempMS.Y, 0, 0, false);
      if R_WaitOption('aw beef', 1000) then
        IncEx(gained,1);
        IncEx(Players[CurrentPlayer].Integers[0],1);
        Wait(400+Random(500));
    end;
  end;
end;

function Slaughter: Boolean; //Player kills the innocent cow
var
  CowSpot: TTileArray;
  Cow: TNPC;
  P: TPoint;
  KillCowTime: Integer;
begin
  Result := False;
  if not LoggedIn then Exit;
  R_FindRandoms;
  if (TimeFromMark(KillCowTime) > 30000)then
  begin
    CowSpot := [Tile(3164,3323)];
    WalkPath(CowSpot);
  end;
  SetAngle(True);
  FindNPC('Cow', Cow);
  P := TileToMSEx(Cow.Tile, 0, 0, 200+Random(300));
  Mouse(P.X - Random(1), P.Y - Random(1), 0, 0, False);
  Result := r_WaitOption('ttack', 100);
  Wait(1000+Random(500));
  if not AreWeInteracting(Cow) then
  MarkTime(KillCowTime);
  GetLoot;
end;


function hInvFull: Boolean; // n3s
begin
  if (not LoggedIn) or LobbyScreen then
  begin
    Result := False;
    Exit;
  end;
  Result := (InvCount = 28);
end;

procedure Bill; //Player finds Beefy Bill, gives him his shit
var
P, B, C, D : TPoint;
HideDTM, BeefDTM, tx, ty :Integer;
BeefyTile: TNPC;
ToBill: TTileArray;

begin
  if not LoggedIn then
    Exit;
  HideDTM := DTMFromString('mggAAAHicY2NgYAhmYmCIA+IoIPYBYk8g9gNiJkYGht9AeQ4gzckI4f8E8pfMncswZ+pUhsVzZjNsXrOaYevatQwbVqxg4AfKYcOMODAEAAC35RAF');
  BeefDTM := DTMFromString('mlwAAAHicY2dgYKhhYmBoBeI2Jgi7CIprgZiNkYHhC1ANA5DmBWIuIGYG4n9AoRULFzD0tLUxNNfWMqxespjhxP79DG0ywgxrly5l4AfK48KMeDAUAABqrhHj');
  if hInvFull then
    Writeln('Walkin to Mr. Bill');
    SetRun(True);
    if (FindSymbol(D.X, D.Y, 'store')) then
    begin
      Writeln('Found the General Store symbol');
      Mouse(D.X, D.Y, 5, 5, True);
      Wait(100+Random(2000));
    end else
    begin
    Writeln('Could not find store symbol, using Reflection');
    ToBill :=[Tile(3169, 3321)];
    WalkPath(ToBill);
    if (FindSymbol(D.X, D.Y, 'store')) then
      begin
        Mouse(D.X, D.Y, 5, 5, True);
        Wait(100+Random(3000));
        Writeln('Found the General Store symbol');
      end;
    SetAngle(True);
    end;
    FFlag(0);
    Wait(1000+Random(500));
    if FindNPC('eefy', BeefyTile) then
    begin
      if Players[CurrentPlayer].Booleans[1] = True then
      begin
        if FindDTM(BeefDTM, B.X, B.Y, MIX1, MIY1, MIX2, MIY2) then
        begin
          Mouse(B.X, B.Y, 5, 5, True);
          Wait(500);
          FindNPC('eefy', BeefyTile);
          P := TileToMS(BeefyTile.Tile, 614);
          Mouse(P.X, P.Y, 5, 5, True);
          Wait(500);
          ClickToContinue;
          Wait(500)
          if FindTextTPAEx(clBlack, 0, MCX1, MCY1, MCX2, MCY2, tx, ty, ', Bill keeps 1', CharsNPC, Nothing) then
          begin
            Mouse(tx, ty, 1, 1, True);
          end else
          begin
            FindTextTPAEx(clBlack, 0, MCX1, MCY1, MCX2, MCY2, tx, ty, ', Bill keeps 2', CharsNPC, Nothing);
            Mouse(tx, ty, 1, 1, True);
          end;
          ClickToContinue;
          Wait(500+Random(1000));
          IncEx(Banked,9);
        end else
          Writeln('No Beef');
        Wait(500);
      end;
      if FindDTM(HideDTM, C.X, C.Y, MIX1, MIY1, MIX2, MIY2) then
      begin
        Mouse(C.X, C.Y, 5, 5, True);
        Wait(500);
        FindNPC('eefy', BeefyTile);
        P := TileToMS(BeefyTile.Tile, 614);
        Mouse(P.X, P.Y, 5, 5, True);
        Wait(300+Random(5000));
        ClickToContinue;
        Wait(500+Random(500));
        if FindTextTPAEx(clBlack, 0, MCX1, MCY1, MCX2, MCY2, tx, ty, ', Bill keeps 1', CharsNPC, Nothing) then
        begin
          Mouse(tx, ty, 1, 1, True);
        end else
        begin
          FindTextTPAEx(clBlack, 0, MCX1, MCY1, MCX2, MCY2, tx, ty, ', Bill keeps 2', CharsNPC, Nothing);
          Mouse(tx, ty, 1, 1, True);
        end;
        ClickToContinue;
        Wait(500+Random(1000));
        IncEx(Banked,9);
      end else
        Writeln('No Hides');
      Wait(100+Random(2000));
    end;
end;

//Ohai

procedure CowWalker;
var
  ToCows, CowSpot : TTileArray;
begin
  ToCows := [Tile(3225, 3235), Tile(3218, 3250), Tile(3215,3269), Tile(3199, 3278), Tile(3189, 3285), Tile(3187, 3302), Tile(3176, 3312)];
  CowSpot := [Tile(3164,3323)];
  MakeCompass('N');
  SetAngle(True);
  WalkPath(ToCows);
  OpenGate;
  Wait(100+Random(500));
  WalkPath(CowSpot);
end;


procedure PrintOnSmart(TP: TStringArray; Placement: TPoint; Colour, Shadow: integer); //BobboHobbo
var
 mx, my, Pic, I, B, H, TPH, Numb: Integer;
 TTP: TPointArray;
 Canvas: TCanvas;
begin
  SmartSetDebug(True);
  GetClientDimensions(mx,my);
  Pic := BitmapFromString(mx,my,'');
  TPH := High(TP);
  for I := 0 to TPH do
  begin
    TTP := LoadTextTPA(TP[i], SmallChars, H);
    for B := 0 to High(TTP) do
    begin
      Numb := ((I + 1) * 13);
      FastSetPixel(Pic, TTP[b].x + 1, TTP[b].y + Numb + 1, Shadow);
      FastSetPixel(Pic, TTP[b].x, TTP[b].y + Numb, Colour);
    end;
  end;
  Canvas := TCANVAS.Create;
  Canvas.Handle := SmartGetDebugDC;
  DrawBitmap(Pic, Canvas, Placement.x, Placement.y);
  FreeBitmap(Pic);
end;

procedure BasicProggy;
begin
  PrintOnSmart(['  Putnam''s Cow raper'],Point(15, 30), 62207, 131072);
  PrintOnSmart([
    'Time Running: ' + TimeRunning,
    'Players active: ' + ToStr(PlayersActive) + '/' + ToStr(HowManyPlayers),
    'Gained: ' + IntToStr(Gained) + ' cow parts',
    'Banked: ' + IntToStr(Banked) + ' cow parts',
    'Rate: ' + IntToStr(Round((Gained * 3600) / (GetTimeRunning / 1000))) + ' Cow Parts Per Hour',
    '',
    ''], Point(20, 60), 1959605, 131072);
end;

procedure Perogy; { Jason2gs, :3 }
begin
  ClearDebug;
  SRLRandomsReport;
  Writeln('[REPORT]');
  Writeln('PCR Perogy Report');
  Writeln('Script Worked for ' + TimeRunning);
  Writeln('Gained ' + IntToStr(Gained) + ' cow hides/beef.');
  Writeln('Banked ' + IntToStr(Banked) + ' cow hides/beef.');
  Writeln('Deaded ' + IntToStr(Deaded) + ' cows.');
  Writeln('Rate: ' + IntToStr(Round((Gained * 3600) / (GetTimeRunning / 1000))) + ' Cow Parts/Hour');
  Writeln('[/REPORT]');
  end;
end;

procedure MainLoop;
var
Cow: TNPC;
begin
  LogInPlayer;
  SetAngle(True);
  MakeCompass('North');
  repeat
    repeat
      CowWalker;
      repeat
        if (TimeFromMark(ReportTimer) > 60000)then // 1 minute
        begin
          Perogy;
          AntiBan;
          MarkTime(ReportTimer);
        end;
        BasicProggy
        if hInvFull then
        begin
          Wait(200+Random(600));
          Writeln('Inv Full');
          Bill;
          Perogy;
        end;
          Slaughter;
      until False;
      if (not LoggedIn) or LobbyScreen then
      begin
        Wait(5000+Random(5000));
        if (not LoggedIn) or LobbyScreen then Break else Wait(1);
      end;
    until False;
    if LobbyScreen then
      LeaveLobby;
    WriteLn('Detected as logged out, NPlayer');
    NextPlayer(Players[CurrentPlayer].Active);
  until False;
end;

begin
  ClearDebug;
  SetupSRL;
  DeclarePlayers;
  LoginPlayer;
  Mainloop;
end.

Updated version of script here: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62508

That script sucks some major balls. I think I'll vote yes.

If I make it, can I has Seniors? :3

From: Putnam
If I make it, can I has Seniors? :3

Asking for seniors means you will not get it.

End of story..

On topic, I like you attitude, the script is satisfactory as far as SRL is concerned. I do think you need to be more active on the forums and some TPA work would be nice.

Perhaps doing a TPA/Reflection hybrid attack style? In my experience, its proven to be MUCH better than one or the other.

E: Oh, and yes. Just keep in mind what I said.

From: Nava2
Perhaps doing a TPA/Reflection hybrid attack style? In my experience, its proven to be MUCH better than one or the other..

Yeah I'll put that on my things-to-do for my script. Right now I'm busy getting it to tan the hides, then I'll implement deathwalk, and see what I can do with TPAs.

yes

I'd like to see some more walking not involving Reflection.

Also, does your walking function add a certain random to the tiles? Because clicking on the exact same tiles every single time could be a little suspicious perhaps. Maybe add a random 1-3

From: Floor66
Also, does your walking function add a certain random to the tiles? Because clicking on the exact same tiles every single time could be a little suspicious perhaps. Maybe add a random 1-3

I'm in the process of adding r_WebWalk instead of using manually placed tiles, so randomness should be better after I update.

EDIT: Updated Script (Thread) to include Deathwalk, Breaks, and better walking.

This is a no from me. You do not show TPA, Arrays, Failsafes, Color walking/object searching/anything, you don't free your DTMs..

Your logic is off too.

Result := r_WaitOption('ttack', 100);
  Wait(1000+Random(500));
  if not AreWeInteracting(Cow) then
    MarkTime(KillCowTime);
  GetLoot;
end;

Here. What exactly is it that you want to do? Kill the cow, or get the loot? Because that would click on the cow and select attack, and then imidiately go look for loot…

This script shows little to no knowledge of the SRL include..

E: Those who voted, write what you voted and why please.

From: Zyt3x
This is a no from me. You do not show TPA, Arrays, Failsafes, Color walking/object searching/anything, you don't free your DTMs..

Your logic is off too.

Result := r_WaitOption('ttack', 100);
  Wait(1000+Random(500));
  if not AreWeInteracting(Cow) then
    MarkTime(KillCowTime);
  GetLoot;
end;

Here. What exactly is it that you want to do? Kill the cow, or get the loot? Because that would click on the cow and select attack, and then imidiately go look for loot…

This script shows little to no knowledge of the SRL include..

I understand what you are saying, but while you were writing that I actually just released v0.15 of my script which has major changes since v0.13. No TPAs or Arrays, but I have fixed the logic when it attacks and searches for items. It also frees the DTMs.

No.

No TPAs, bad logic. Your antiban ALWAYS runs a different antiban procedure. Horrid standards. Not active in the community (3 years and 300 posts?).

Edit: To clarify, I mean the antiban is always called on (i.e. there's no random chance for it to not be called)

No from me, sorry. Pretty much the same reason already stated.

I say no, just because you're so inactive. You have just recently started being a bit more active again, but still. I'd like to first see that you are a real member of the SRL community, not just visit once a month.

For your script:
- You don't seem to wait until the cow is dead, which can be a problem for lvl3 players
- You don't seem to use any failsafes. What if something goes wrong along the way? Your script won't notice and it tries to proceed, which can lead to unexpected problems.
- In antiban you call random(40) yet your options go 40..70. I know that's just something you forgot, I'm just mentioning.

So stay active and try again in a month or two. :) The script is fine enough for Members.

Also by seniors did you mean the Yoda cup or the title?

From: marpis
I say no, just because you're so inactive. You have just recently started being a bit more active again, but still. I'd like to first see that you are a real member of the SRL community, not just visit once a month.

Except hes on the irc /everyday/. Tbh, after you became dev I never saw much of you until recently. But that might just be me.

Putnam is very helpful on the irc and is plenty active.

I vote No.

Reasons already mentioned, but lack of failsafes is kinda a big deal.

i also dont like how some of your procedures just keep going even after they failed to do what they are suppose to. but thats due to your lack of failsafes.

From: marpis
I say no, just because you're so inactive. You have just recently started being a bit more active again, but still. I'd like to first see that you are a real member of the SRL community, not just visit once a month.

For your script:
- You don't seem to wait until the cow is dead, which can be a problem for lvl3 players
- You don't seem to use any failsafes. What if something goes wrong along the way? Your script won't notice and it tries to proceed, which can lead to unexpected problems.
- In antiban you call random(40) yet your options go 40..70. I know that's just something you forgot, I'm just mentioning.

So stay active and try again in a month or two. :) The script is fine enough for Members.

Also by seniors did you mean the Yoda cup or the title?

I see your point that I'm not active enough, but like noidea said, I am active almost every day on the IRC. But then again IRC != Forums.
For seeing whether or not the cow is dead, I used AreWeInteracting(Cow) to check if we are, and if we aren't then I get loot and mark the time since we last killed a cow. My only failsafe pretty much is the deathwalk, and I see your guys' point that I need more. The antiban part was a mistake, I forgot to copy over the full function and just copied the 40..70 part. I've fixed that.

And for seniors I did mean the Yoda cup. :)

From: Putnam
And for seniors I did mean the Yoda cup. :)

In that case, then you would get it.

Good enough for me!

Yes, keep learning afterwards though. Okay?

From: Naum
Yes, keep learning afterwards though. Okay?

Of course!

From: marpis
I say no, just because you're so inactive.

Inactive? I dare you to go on IRC once in a while, and all who is there is Putnam talking non-stop ;)

I vote yes, due to your active status, your positive attitude and your constant assistance to beginners with Simba/SRL and other languages :)

I'm sorry to make this spammy post, but type :putnam: in a facebook chat window, there you have your very own senior's cup !

From: Shady?
I'm sorry to make this spammy post, but type :putnam: in a facebook chat window, there you have your very own senior's cup !

Haha yeah I know. Not related to him in any way, but Chris Putnam made the FB chat, therefore

:putnam:

I have been here for like 5 years and I still don't have 1000 posts. I check villavu almost every day but I only post when I feel it's neccessary. Does this mean I'm inactive?

I think low postcount/time_here is a bit bad reason for saying no.

SRL-Forums > SRL Members Forum > Appliances > Putnam - SRL Member Application

From: http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=appliance
# appliance - a device or control that is very useful for a particular job
# appliance - durable goods for home or office use

Just saying.

From: antti mies
I have been here for like 5 years and I still don't have 1000 posts. I check villavu almost every day but I only post when I feel it's neccessary. Does this mean I'm inactive?

I think low postcount/time_here is a bit bad reason for saying no.

Agreed.
I've been a member for 4,5 years and my post count is ~400, but I check the site every single day.

From: Shady?
Agreed.
I've been a member for 4,5 years and my post count is ~400, but I check the site every single day.

Your signature links still point to www.srl-forums.com. Heh.

OK, seeing I had forgot to press the vote button you have convinced me vote Yes :)
I never use IRC, and I have thought no-one uses #SRL :p Yes it is enough if you only post when it's necessary and are active on IRC, but with juniors with very low activity there's a chance they might just write one script, then leech from Members' section or just quit when they see there's nothing to leech.

I'mma vote yes, keep up your activity in the future too.

From: Jason2gs
Just saying.

It's here to stay:
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50321
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21656

My hooks broke and the script didn't do anything =O

C'mon, does no one submit colour scripts anymore?
Even if it's just a powerminer :(

^Exactly. Taking the easy way out. Yea, reflection is reliable when it works but it doesn't work all the time.

From: Runescape Pro
^Exactly. Taking the easy way out. Yea, reflection is reliable when it works but it doesn't work all the time.

Maybe if there more people wanting to dev for reflection and realized its potential.

By "taking the easy way out" did you mean, using a sick include that makes scripting a lot more powerful and easier, then sure.

Brb, living in the dark ages, because anything else is "taking the easy way out".

Yes excuse my while I go and start a fire with sticks so I can cook my sausages, because an oven, and even a lighter are taking the easy way out.

Lighters don't work all the time, but when they do its effective.

From: Bad Boy JH
Yes excuse my while I go and start a fire with sticks so I can cook my sausages, because an oven, and even a lighter are taking the easy way out.

Lighters don't work all the time, but when they do its effective.

Think of it as cooking your sausages on a bbq, but using a fire starter. Sure it helps but it is not necessary.

From: cycrosism
Think of it as cooking your sausages on a bbq, but using a fire starter. Sure it helps but it is not necessary.

I think you are underestimating how much you cram into that word "helps".

It isn't necessary, but neither is using any functions from the SRL.

Voting no for reflection (not saying you did) is a bad excuse. If they can script well, i'm sure that they could easily as well pump out color scripts. They just take longer and are more difficult than reflection.

I want to write scripts for the community and it feels like I can do a better job with limited time by using reflection. No one should knock their ability for using it though.

From: smurg
It isn't necessary, but neither is using any functions from the SRL.

So applying for SRL members has nothing to do with SRL functions? Well I'll be damned. Why didn't you tell me earlier? So I could apply with RSbot scripts?

Well, since we don't have reflection members, srl membership should need knowledge of both reflection and colour.

From: Bad Boy JH
Well, since we don't have reflection members, srl membership should need knowledge of both reflection and colour.

SRL Membership needs knowledge on the SRL include.

Reflection is great and works awesomely well when it's not broken, but those times it is broken, there should be a color backup failsafe that works good enough until reflection is back up. This way, the bot can still do it's job even though reflection is outdated/not installed.

From: smurg
Brb, living in the dark ages, because anything else is "taking the easy way out".

If I can make a yew cutter with reflection while drunk like fuck a drunken sailor, that clearly proves reflection doesn't need that many skills.

From: Markus
If I can make a yew cutter with reflection while drunk like fuck a drunken sailor, that clearly proves reflection doesn't need that many skills.

I agree.

I made a fighting script for you all to use:

{$DEFINE SMART}
{$i Reflection/Reflection.simba}
{$i SRL/SRL.scar}

const
  Monster = 'Chicken';

var
  NPCs : TNPCArray;
  P : TPoint;
  H, I : Integer;

begin
  SetupSRL;
  SetupReflection;
  while LoggedIn do
  begin
    NPCs := GetNPCs(Monster);
    H := High(NPCs);
    for I := 0 to H do
      if not NPCs[I].fighting then
      begin
        P := TileToMS(NPCs[I].Tile, 50);
        Mouse(P.X, P.Y, 0, 0, True);
        while not GetMe.Fighting do
          Wait(100);
        while GetMe.Fighting do
          Wait(1000);
        Break;
      end;
  end;
end.

I didn't make it in Simba, so I'm not sure it works, but seriously… That's all that's needed to create a reflection script… No skill at all

This thread is getting off topic fast.

But quite a number of reflection functions are based off of SRL functions, hence you would be familiar with them if you had just used the alternative if reflection wasn't present.

Tell me how making something easier to script is a bad thing. Really? These are just everyone's egos talking and being self-centered to why they script. If you shy away from reflection because you feel it is too easy, then youredoingitwrong.jpg

I thought the purpose was to create scripts, share them, and build a community. Not, stroke each others e-dongs with how complicated and great are our scripts are. Fact is, reflection is a lot more powerful and easier to use to do a lot of tasks, so why not take advantage of that in order to bring scripts to the community?

Instead of pushing out the same oak cutting scripts over and over, then I'd tell you to "use the easy way" and create a AIO farmer with world web walking. But i'm sure that's way too easy for some of you, so its beyond the community to make.

From: smurg
This thread is getting off topic fast.

But quite a number of reflection functions are based off of SRL functions, hence you would be familiar with them if you had just used the alternative if reflection wasn't present.

Tell me how making something easier to script is a bad thing. Really? These are just everyone's egos talking and being self-centered to why they script. If you shy away from reflection because you feel it is too easy, then youredoingitwrong.jpg

I thought the purpose was to create scripts, share them, and build a community. Not, stroke each others e-dongs with how complicated and great are our scripts are. Fact is, reflection is a lot more powerful and easier to use to do a lot of tasks, so why not take advantage of that in order to bring scripts to the community?

Instead of pushing out the same oak cutting scripts over and over, then I'd tell you to "use the easy way" and create a AIO farmer with world web walking. But i'm sure that's way too easy for some of you, so its beyond the community to make.

I'll quote myself.

From: Zyt3x
Reflection is great and works awesomely well when it's not broken, but those times it is broken, there should be a color backup failsafe that works good enough until reflection is back up. This way, the bot can still do it's job even though reflection is outdated/not installed.

Everyone knows that Reflection > Color in most cases, but to make something as stable as possible, there should be failsafes, right? So use Color as a failsafe where reflection might fail.

From: Zyt3x
I'll quote myself.



Everyone knows that Reflection > Color in most cases, but to make something as stable as possible, there should be failsafes, right? So use Color as a failsafe where reflection might fail.

I wasn't talking about you specifically, probably Runescape Pro, cyro..

Just anyone opposed to anything involving reflection, etc.

And I think SRL members is more of a community icon for being a scripter. Rather than someone who strictly codes in color. I you have adequate scripting abilities, love the community, and want to contribute, then why shouldn't you be in? What happens if we get into OpenGL? People who script that exclusively can't be in?

There's like 2 working scripts in the members section anyways, it's more of a sign that you're knowledgeable in scripting.

Else, make Reflection members and OpenGL members, and separate the community :p.

Hey smurg (and all other debaters above), I hope you know this thread is about voting on an SRL members application (which used to be about scripting ability) and that this isn't a debater about the pros and cons of reflection vs. colour?
Please try to stay a bit on topic.

Hm. Wait, this reminds me of something.


Phew!

Does that look easy to script, or what!

But it's sure as heck efficient, no?

So, with all of my pea-brain knowledge of the cheating scene, allow me to recount history:

We started with AutoRune - arguably the simplest, and most efficient, style of cheating. Then we progressed (regressed?) to SCAR, with all of its color-y goodness. Then we appended the SRL library, presumably to make things easier for the script-writer. Now, we shun the current most efficient method of cheating as being 'too easy'?

The only reason why I "shun" it is because I don't script to do anything in RS. I simply script for the knowledge factor. Maybe it's just me…

Sorry for the "spam" nonetheless.

In! Welcome. Never mind all the noise. 0_o