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Thinking of making account for Pking/Dueling with my friend.
I feel like dueling is way better because all of the control you have over everything and the rules.
When PKing people can run/tele/team on you etc, and you might end up wasting a bunch of food/runes on someone who just runs or does something stupid.

So doesn't it seem like dueling is much better and organized and whatnot?

Also, I'm hearing a lot about 'Zerkers' being good/one of the best style of P2P accounts, are Zerkers just as good for Dueling as they are for PKing?

What would be the idea stats for a good P2P dueling account?

Thats the fun of PK'ing, you never know what will happen, at least thats what gives me the satisfaction. I can't say much about P2P PK'ing/Dueling, I have mainly just PK'ed in F2P. But yeah, go for PK'ing!

PKing just seems like a big gamble to me while dueling is more controlled and for sure that you get what you deserve if you win the fight.
Only + about PKing I see is the 'trill'.

Go with dueling in my opinion if you plan to be solo.

I'm planning to make a zerker account along with my friend. So 2 zerkers.
I think dueling is more of my thing. PKing is just a gamble! I see no reason why it's better.

Plus with dueling you can make a bill in < 30 seconds. :p Or lose a bill, but let's not think about that. ;)

If you have some skill + the money to back the best armour/equipment i'd definantly do duelling my stats are pretty bad on my main for duelling/pking but i just have a ton of money to buy the best equipment and i wont almost every duel for 100k-500k lol.

Dueling is primarily done with no armour but then the best weapons.

So, getting the best swords is kinda essential.

Would a D clawer be a good staker?

Like 99 str, 60 attk and whatever hp?

-Boom

If your going to go for dueling, 1 defense is definitely the way to go. I'm unsure of whether I like 1 def pking because you take so much damage and have to eat so often…but if you had some buddies and you were going to clan it, you should have a tank for sure then everyone else 1 def with 99 whatever (range/mage + str).

From: Dynamite
Would a D clawer be a good staker?

Like 99 str, 60 attk and whatever hp?

-Boom

No, thats a dscim dueler which is good lol.

DClaws would be fail. you would have people pull out dfire shields etc.

Disable shield? Or would that be too obvious

From: Nava2
Dueling is primarily done with no armour but then the best weapons.

So, getting the best swords is kinda essential.

around 70% are no armor in my opinion and 30% are armored, you'd be suprised how many armored duels there are.

From: vashanddou
around 70% are no armor in my opinion and 30% are armored, you'd be suprised how many armored duels there are.

I've only ever staked on accounts with low defence. I guess thats where I get confused then. :)

I prefer PKing myself, I have tryed dualing and it just gets boring, I win or Lose thats it, theres no chase, no frantic calls of lv 3's calling out for you to stop, no excitment.

So It's looking like low/no defense, and high attack strength?
Can anyone link to me a guide/tell stats of ideal P2P Staker?

From: Dynamite
Would a D clawer be a good staker?

Like 99 str, 60 attk and whatever hp?

-Boom

From: YoHoJo
Thinking of making account for Pking/Dueling with my friend.
I feel like dueling is way better because all of the control you have over everything and the rules.
When PKing people can run/tele/team on you etc, and you might end up wasting a bunch of food/runes on someone who just runs or does something stupid.

So doesn't it seem like dueling is much better and organized and whatnot?

Also, I'm hearing a lot about 'Zerkers' being good/one of the best style of P2P accounts, are Zerkers just as good for Dueling as they are for PKing?

What would be the idea stats for a good P2P dueling account?

From: YoHoJo
So It's looking like low/no defense, and high attack strength?
Can anyone link to me a guide/tell stats of ideal P2P Staker?

Kay, so i won 15m in these past 2 days, however today i got SCAMMED for it. SO, dueling IS better than pking if ur looking to earn money HOWEVER, YOU CAN GET SCAMMED! i was scammed by a ranging def nerd. (im lv 60)
ideal stats for staking would be

60 att
70-80 str, or 99 if u want to be higher cb
70+ hp (hp is a big advantage in DDSing)
1 def
1 prayer
might want range/mage since it doesnt level cb for like 80 lvls…
use rune hq's CB lvl calculator if u want to know how many range/mage lvls u would want to get.

thats a VERY good staker. thats how ive made my money.
i dds/dlong ( i know i need scim) ( or a CVLS (; )

as for claws, they are VERY good, HOWEVER, if ur specs fail, you get owned by a ddser, AND you MUST have shield on to use them. which sucks. because you could get scammed like i did by an obbyshielding rune knifer. (you WILL NOT hit on them, atleast nothing more than 100.) so, those are my thoughts. claws are good but scammers galore, i prefer dds. honestly.

so GL, pking isnt good, too many pjers.
so i recommend dueling. best of luck. – Personality (AkA donkey60000) (name change soon)

Yea looking like 99str, 60at, 1 def is ideal for a good staker?
So I guess PKing is way more fun that just sitting there and dds specializing and see who wins, but still, safer and less of a gamble.

I agree with donkey' s build, except you should get 11-13 prayer with it. 11 prayer if you only want just enough to get Desert Treasure done (ancients can change the momentum of a duel in a heartbeat) or 13 for Ancients, Ava' s accumulator, and Superhuman Strength. Maxed at this build would be 78 combat with 60 att, 99 str, 1 def, 13 prayer, 99 range, 99 mage, and 99 hp.

From: Echo_
I agree with donkey' s build, except you should get 11-13 prayer with it. 11 prayer if you only want just enough to get Desert Treasure done (ancients can change the momentum of a duel in a heartbeat) or 13 for Ancients, Ava' s accumulator, and Superhuman Strength. Maxed at this build would be 78 combat with 60 att, 99 str, 1 def, 13 prayer, 99 range, 99 mage, and 99 hp.

i disagree with prayer. because in duel arena as a pure, First, nobody puts prayer on and they dont want to stake u if u do. second, if u get prayer on someone could have prot melee, third, nobody but other mages with ancients/ higher level spells put mage on. this will just get u useless CB levels. especially as a pure. because people who dont have the prayer will have 5-10 lvls of combat stats such as either str, or hp on you. and on top of that, with mage on, there is a spell which turns ur active attacks off, EX: when ddsing and they cast this spell, (idk what it is) you must click them again to att ( i think?) but one time when i was dueling a kid with it, i couldnt att for at least 2 secs, thankfully, i won. lets just say im not dueling him again.


EDIT: idk if u want to do dueling… i just lost absolutely everything… all 15m … even my d hatchet lul.. ugh. scammers galore. u just gota be alert. its your choice what u want to do. there are risks to both

From: donkey60000
i disagree with prayer. because in duel arena as a pure, First, nobody puts prayer on and they dont want to stake u if u do. second, if u get prayer on someone could have prot melee, third, nobody but other mages with ancients/ higher level spells put mage on. this will just get u useless CB levels. especially as a pure. because people who dont have the prayer will have 5-10 lvls of combat stats such as either str, or hp on you. and on top of that, with mage on, there is a spell which turns ur active attacks off, EX: when ddsing and they cast this spell, (idk what it is) you must click them again to att ( i think?) but one time when i was dueling a kid with it, i couldnt att for at least 2 secs, thankfully, i won. lets just say im not dueling him again.


EDIT: idk if u want to do dueling… i just lost absolutely everything… all 15m … even my d hatchet lul.. ugh. scammers galore. u just gota be alert. its your choice what u want to do. there are risks to both

Your build when maxed is 76 combat. The 11 prayer version of your build is 77 combat. The 13 prayer version of your build is 78 combat. 1-2 combat levels isn' t much of a difference imo, the 1 prayer combat equivalent would have 65 attack.

From: Echo_
Your build when maxed is 76 combat. The 11 prayer version of your build is 77 combat. The 13 prayer version of your build is 78 combat. 1-2 combat levels isn' t much of a difference imo, the 1 prayer combat equivalent would have 65 attack.

why would u want 65 att if u wouldnt be wielding anything more than dragon?
and once again, nobody duels with prayer on.

Dueling is best for money IF you are lucky…

From: tom99
Dueling is best for money IF you are lucky…

/agree

however, im very unlucky. LUL :duh:

From: P3rs0nal1ty
/agree

however, im very unlucky. LUL :duh:

Part of it is luck, yes, but if you create the account with the right stats, there's a higher chance you'll win. ;)

Basically, from what I've read ITT, pures are good at staking.

WRONG.

Pures are terrible for boxing, the ideal stats for boxing are completely opposite to a pure's ideal stats. And it's not about luck, boxing takes some skill (switching from punch to kick really helps), and mage boxing takes serious skill.

If you want to make just a staker (99% of the time it is boxing), then your ideal stats would be high attack, low strength, high defence, high hp, and no prayer. Such as, 70 attack, 20 strength, 70 defence, 1 prayer, and as high as you can get hp(which involves training range[or mage if you combat it])

Personally, I enjoy pking more than duelling, and I use a range/mage tank for that, but duelling is definitely more profitable if you're good at it.

I find no armour (with weapon) duels all the time, in case anyone was wondering, but yes, dueling seems to be more common.

From: Coh3n
Part of it is luck, yes, but if you create the account with the right stats, there's a higher chance you'll win. ;)

And when you have better changes you should stake a lot of stakes. It will make you profit almost 100% certain.

Just don't get angry and stake high when you lose 10 duels in a row like I do…

Also first hit means a lot in duels. Especially when fighting weapons on with no armour. Sadly getting first hit requires no skill. It's some variable stored on your character and it changes every time you log in.

Biggest problem for me is that I get mad when I lose a lot. Then I start staking stupidly against higher levels etc… ending up losing tons…

From: antti mies
And when you have better changes you should stake a lot of stakes. It will make you profit almost 100% certain.

Just don't get angry and stake high when you lose 10 duels in a row like I do…

Also first hit means a lot in duels. Especially when fighting weapons on with no armour. Sadly getting first hit requires no skill. It's some variable stored on your character and it changes every time you log in.

Biggest problem for me is that I get mad when I lose a lot. Then I start staking stupidly against higher levels etc… ending up losing tons…

Elaborate on the "first hit" thing?

Also, I was considering staking when I got maxed melee (I would have 99 hp at that point too). Good idea?

From: Coh3n
Part of it is luck, yes, but if you create the account with the right stats, there's a higher chance you'll win. ;)

exactly, you must have a properly built acc.

From: josh81193
Basically, from what I've read ITT, pures are good at staking.

WRONG.

Pures are terrible for boxing, the ideal stats for boxing are completely opposite to a pure's ideal stats. And it's not about luck, boxing takes some skill (switching from punch to kick really helps), and mage boxing takes serious skill.

If you want to make just a staker (99% of the time it is boxing), then your ideal stats would be high attack, low strength, high defence, high hp, and no prayer. Such as, 70 attack, 20 strength, 70 defence, 1 prayer, and as high as you can get hp(which involves training range[or mage if you combat it])

Personally, I enjoy pking more than duelling, and I use a range/mage tank for that, but duelling is definitely more profitable if you're good at it.

boxing is for the main accounts. if u want to stake with pures, that is the most common way of dueling. so i would go with a pure for staking as well. for no armour with wep fights. obviously a pure would not box. :duh:

From: antti mies
And when you have better changes you should stake a lot of stakes. It will make you profit almost 100% certain.

Just don't get angry and stake high when you lose 10 duels in a row like I do…

Also first hit means a lot in duels. Especially when fighting weapons on with no armour. Sadly getting first hit requires no skill. It's some variable stored on your character and it changes every time you log in.

Biggest problem for me is that I get mad when I lose a lot. Then I start staking stupidly against higher levels etc… ending up losing tons…

yeah you have to be a smart staker i agree, and yes i do the same thing you do. i get mad. but i never fight someone who has more than 1 cb on me, or insanely good stats. also, yes, first hit means ALOT.

From: TomTuff
Elaborate on the "first hit" thing?

Also, I was considering staking when I got maxed melee (I would have 99 hp at that point too). Good idea?

no, this isnt a good idea. UNLESS you had the absolute best armour/weps in the game. aka torva. and idk what best wep would be. because at that level, its all about equipment. and also, you could box. however, the ideal staker is a pure. as long as your not boxing, have no armour/rings/ammys etc. on. also, you would want weapons on if fighting pure v pure. btw.

Zuriel staff for Miasmic Barrage against melee&range
- Causes opponent's attacks to be 50% slower

Some melee weapon, Godsword, Korasi, whatever.

Morrigan's javelin (p++)
- Use the special right away, so you both poison the opponent and the special causes damage over time

And: have a macro with mousespeed 50 change your equipment and cast special attack ;)
Invinsible staking.

I have a level 49 with a crystal bow (10/10), a dark bow/dragon arrows, 70 range, ranger set, range ammy, archers ring.

Lol, people get so mad.

Also, boxing is lame.

Pures are the best.

If anyone wants to refute this just let me know, and I'll be happy to show you (upto lvl 51)

So much misinformation in this thread.

If you are account is high enough to be considered a main, then there really isn't any reason to be making a new account. (Unless of course you enjoy making new accounts)

From: P3rs0nal1ty
no, this isnt a good idea. UNLESS you had the absolute best armour/weps in the game. aka torva. and idk what best wep would be. because at that level, its all about equipment. and also, you could box. however, the ideal staker is a pure. as long as your not boxing, have no armour/rings/ammys etc. on. also, you would want weapons on if fighting pure v pure. btw.

Yes, I meant boxing… lol.

From: TomTuff
Elaborate on the "first hit" thing?

You can't both die. Not even if you hit at the same time. So one of you ends up hitting 1 more time. (If the weapons have same speed)

From: TomTuff
Yes, I meant boxing… lol.

Then it's almost 100% luck. In boxing getting first hit doesn't mean much. Maybe it gives you 50.5% change to win. Ofc if you stake a lot this will end up profitable.

Also fightmodes are important in boxing. If you are not hitting at the same time you could change your fightmode to def when he hits and attack when you hit ;) It needs some skill though.

From: P3rs0nal1ty
why would u want 65 att if u wouldnt be wielding anything more than dragon?
and once again, nobody duels with prayer on.

I was saying that your 1 prayer account would need 65 attack to have the same combat as my 60 attack 13 prayer account. So your 1 prayer account would have no real advantage, I never suggested getting 65 attack. :duh:

From: Echo_
I was saying that your 1 prayer account would need 65 attack to have the same combat as my 60 attack 13 prayer account. So your 1 prayer account would have no real advantage, I never suggested getting 65 attack. :duh:

and thats what i mean, instead of say 70 str, i could have 74-75ish. which is quite an advantage. as opposed to 65 att which would be absolutely no advantage.

Str > Pray

Haha, your not seeing the point of getting the prayer that I intended. THE PRAYER IS FOR DESERT TREASURE, NOT FOR BEING USED IN THE FIGHT. STRENGTH MEANS NOTHING IF YOU CANNOT HIT YOUR OPPONENT WITH MELEE. Plus the max hit with a dragon scimitar with 70 strength is 170. The max hit with a dragon scimitar with 75 strength is 180. That 10 points of extra possible damage probably wouldn't decide a fight between these two builds.

From: Echo_
STRENGTH MEANS NOTHING IF YOU CANNOT HIT YOUR OPPONENT WITH MELEE. Plus the max hit with a dragon scimitar with 70 strength is 170. The max hit with a dragon scimitar with 75 strength is 180. That 10 points of extra possible damage probably wouldn't decide a fight between these two builds.

K so, with 60 att you can obviously hit something DERRRRRRr :duh:
and as for the str, i would rather have 75 str as opposed to the 11 prayer for dt in which is pointless anyway because people always put no movement when mage is on. thus making it pointless cuz u cant FC. SOO, pointless 2 cb levels.
pointless quest if u plan on dueling. kthx.

Wilderness is fun, staking is a science.
80 dungeoneering for chaotic rapier is pretty essential if you want to ever get anywhere with staking, which turned me away from it.