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VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE

As of 24/12 you now need to login to vote in Phase 2 of the vote, which includes a "No" and a "Dont Mind" option.

.. really?!

I'll actually gain some quite a lot of interest if they reintroduce wilderness and free trade the way it originally was.

Voting right now with all my avail accounts.
Is it possible to make a script that allows you enter all the usernames of your accounts and submits a vote using all of them? (Having realistic breaks between each submission!)

I found out about this like an hour ago, I voted like 20 times.

OMG OMG OMG :) Vote people :)

You ninja'd me :p

There is like an additional 1k votes every 10 seconds. I find it amusing hitting refresh over and over seeing the number skyrocketing :p

We can finally fire up our old armies and make our mains rich again. :)

The big question though will they really do it, and what will they do to stop real world trading?

And voted 5 times :)

VOTe!!!!!!

From: Runescape
If the majority of players don't vote in favour Jagex

Does this mean all acounts ever made, if so there is no way the vote will go though.
I really want this but i think its a big stunt that will never happen :(

Doubt it will happen, in the post concerning this it says "we'll revert to our old ways if the vast majority of runescape agree with it."

Sounds sketch, I think they're trying to make an illusion of trying to do something, just to get some of their players back before the inevitable disappointment. But if it indeed comes through will be truly awesome!

From: Feroc1ty
Doubt it will happen, in the post concerning this it says "we'll revert to our old ways if the vast majority of runescape agree with it."

Sounds sketch, I think they're trying to make an illusion of trying to do something, just to get some of their players back before the inevitable disappointment. But if it indeed comes through will be truly awesome!

I think your 100% right and i think the illusion will be the wilderness and no free trade :(

I'm quite sure we'll get wildy and free trading back. Looking at the votes, that'll happen quite soon :p but I wonder how many level 3's will bot after the update. There probably won't be any f2p free trees lol.

wow need to reach atleast a million votes…I don't know if it will reach that high…but I did vote with all my current accounts.

Voted 20 times.

~Home

we need to make a script to parse the highscores and just grab names, and then enter them into the contest….checking "anonymous" randomly…of course all the same ip might be weird…

EDIT: ^ looks like someone beat me to the idea. Lol

Could someone write a script that just goes through all the users on the runescape Highscores and votes with those names? :D
I voted with 17 accounts.

Here's my 2 pennies: If JaGeX is really going to bring back the old wilderness and free trade, I know for a fact they will upgrade their bot detection and will be able to tell if a bot is trading money to a main.

Idea for a script:

http://services.runescape.com/m=hiscore/overall.ws?rank=6565
Put a random rank there, get all of those usernames and submit them. :D

Result from this update: massive increase in SRL's activity?
E: Also, a possible problem with making a script parse out and retrieve all the usernames and submit them is that, AFAIK, there is no way to check whether or not a username has already been submitted. Hence, if we all run the same script and submit the same usernames, several times, Jagex has an easy way to see who was cheating the votes or not.

From: Hugolord
Result from this update: massive increase in SRL's activity?
E: Also, a possible problem with making a script parse out and retrieve all the usernames and submit them is that, AFAIK, there is no way to check whether or not a username has already submitted. Hence, if we all run the same script and submit the same usernames, several times, Jagex has an easy way to see who was cheating the votes or not.

YESSIR^ I remember how fast users left after the 2007 update.

EVERYONE VOTE.

By the way, I feel like noting that the voting script would have to go through a proxy for (preferably) each vote. Otherwise, such a script could just make JaGex nevermind this whole thing. Also, shuffle the results you parse a lot! In case it's not obvious; DO NOT vote sequentially with the parsed results.

Jagex really wants its players back:
"Register your vote by the 14th of January 2011
Please register your vote if you want to see the return of free trade and the danger of the original wildy. 100,000 votes certainly won't be enough. Perhaps not even 1,000,000. It will take you and every one of your friends, ex-friends and probably even enemies to register sufficient votes to bring it back.
Simply put in your character name and if you want to stay anonymous just tick the box. Make your voice heard and your vote count! "

Get teh old account creatorz out!!!! VOTE VOTE VOTE!!!! Wo0o0o0o0o0ot!!!! OMFGz!!!!!

From: EvilChicken!
By the way, I feel like noting that the voting script would have to go through a proxy for (preferably) each vote. Otherwise, such a script could just make JaGex nevermind this whole thing. Also, shuffle the results you parse a lot! In case it's not obvious; DO NOT vote sequentially with the parsed results.

Dynamic IP's like i have i can Reconnect in like 3 secs with new IP.
So how it would be done. Using Appa wich supports Proxies. Or Is it possible using only Simba?


~Home

http://rubyinstaller.org/downloads/

and run this

http://pastie.org/private/13i8n5zrcgivnhdrzqvkq

-Runeserver.

(l)!!! Voteeeeeee!

Does this mean that the Grand Exchange could dissapear?

Lol I don't know what to do >.<

PS: 330k votes in a couple of hours? Oh my god…

Come on!!!

Voted on 10 accounts or so :)

You guys can use the same account to vote over and over.

Edit: Cant believe there are faggots on Rs forums who dont want it back…

From: kingarabian
You guys can use the same account to vote over and over.

Don't they check IP's?

~Eerik.

Guys if this rate keeps up there will be no need to make a voting script.

I think the safest method for auto-voting this poll would be to make new accounts and have them vote, while periodically switching ips because of:

"* If you do not have a RuneScape account, click here to create one. After creating an account, you may return to this page and vote using the account's player name."

On second note: Bot away! I don't think Jagex cares if people cheat their poll system, I think they hope and expect people to do so. Why else would they allow you to create a new account to be able to vote? Why else can any username be input without any confirmation/verification from the actual account user? Furthermore, they are encouraging people to spread the word and there isn't a "no" option on the poll either. Jagex will definitely be going through with this update IMO.

From: Heavenzeyez1
Don't they check IP's?

~Eerik.

Unless they got some program for that to do that… Else its to hard. This thing will hit probably hit 3 million votes by january 14th I dont know if they can check each ip…

Also Jagex must really have some anti-bot anti-rwt for them to consider bringing back the wilderness and free trade.

Edit: Do you guys think this has to do with the fact that WoW is doing a major-better-update to there game.

From: kingarabian
Unless they got some program for that to do that… Else its to hard. This thing will hit probably hit 3 million votes by january 14th I dont know if they can check each ip…

Also Jagex must really have some anti-bot anti-rwt for them to consider bringing back the wilderness and free trade.

It will be over 3 mil, I'm quite sure! :)

I'm not sure why JaGeX are doing this… Have they really fallen this low?

Google.analytics.***
Guiness world records*
No logging in

First of all google.analytics is tracking it therefore they are watching the internet trafficking of the web for this vote. This means they are tkaing the count and the age groups into consideration to whose coming into the site and how much it crashes or many other statistics.

2nd guiness world records is being set. This is by the trafficking of the web which they are watching to make a world record of the people coming into the database or some other topic so jagex is setting a world record aparently

3rd no logging in… thats just obvious that this is only for the record and trafficking becuase if this was a real poll and jagex was listening they would make you log in otherwise what i did was i officiated 30+names to get wildy back for myself and friends accounts. OBVI fake

If it was real you would log in… there wouldnt be suspicious trafficking activities and a record wouldnt be in place and it would be just totally different and a main page poll. If anything theyll tell us april fools in april that this was a complete joke and they set a record off all of us and you other people.

This makes me uneasy…^

It does seem a bit odd how you can easily just create an account and just register your vote in under a minute
I've voted with all my accounts, but im not sure if this might happen.

From: kingarabian
This makes me uneasy…^

google.analytics can be found in almost every page of runescape no?

From: Hugolord
google.analytics can be found in almost every page of runescape no?

Yes. Tons of pages use Google Analytics..

I voted six times as Zezima… something is very wrong here.

Yeah, everywhere you look is showing this as a scam now kinda :(

E: also are forum names the same as in game on runescape if so ill vote for all the boycotters ;)

The amount of times you vote doesn't help anything, the second you load the page it grabs the REFERER header, then it port scans you for open ports…, checking for a proxy or a VPN. Hence why they said it doesn't matter if 1M player accounts vote, its all after the unique IPs, has nothing to do with the counter, the counter is just for show. Proof: Mod Mark: http://imgur.com/qCxYG


Sorry guys :\

Comon guys, ALL KEEP voting, wow i get this old runescape feeling again :redface:!

a Simple voter i made in 20 mins.
But hey i learned Appa basics : P

program Vote;
var
  Name: string;


function GetName: string;
begin
  Name := (Between('hiscorepersonal.ws?user1=', '">', GetPage('http://services.runescape.com/m=hiscore/overall.ws?rank=' + Inttostr(RandomRange(1, 1000000)))));
  Result := (Replace(Name, '%A0', ' '))
end;







function appa_NavigateTo(URL: string; TimeOut: Integer): Boolean;
var
  t: Integer;
begin
  Result := False;
  if (not appa_Showing) then
    Exit;

  if (URL <> '') then
    appa_Navigate(URL);
  t := GetSystemTime + TimeOut;
  while (not appa_PageLoaded) and appa_Showing and (GetSystemTime < t) do
    Wait(250);

  Result := appa_PageState >= 3;
end;




procedure Appa_TypeByte(k: Byte);
begin
  Appa_KeyDown(k);
  Appa_KeyUp(k);
  Wait(20);
  Appa_KeyDown(8);
  Appa_KeyUp(8);
end;


procedure Appa_TypeSend(Text: string);
var
  S: string;
  I, L: Integer;
begin
  S := 'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXZ' + '~!@#$%^&*()_+{}|:"<>?';
  L := Length(Text);
  for I := 1 to L do
  begin
    while (Pos(Text[i], S) > 0) and (I <= Length(Text)) do
    begin
      Appa_TypeByte(GetKeyCode(Text[I]));
      Inc(I);
      if (I > Length(Text)) then Break;
    end;
    if (I <= Length(Text)) then
      Appa_TypeByte(GetKeyCode(Text[I]));
  end;
end;



procedure Appa_ClickMouse(x, y: Integer; Click: Boolean);
begin
  Appa_MoveMouse(x, y);
  Appa_HoldMouse(x, y, Click);
  Appa_ReleaseMouse(x, y, Click);
end;





procedure FillForm;
begin
  Appa_ClickMouse(282, 51, True);
  Wait(10);
  Appa_TypeSend(Name);
  Wait(10);
  Appa_ClickMouse(509, 88, True);
  Wait(1000);
end;


begin
  appa_ShowForm;
  repeat
    Name := GetName;
    Writeln(Name);
    appa_NavigateTo('http://services.runescape.com/m=poll/wildy.ws', 5000);
    FillForm;
  until (false);
end.

Uses Appa and Scar. Nothing fancy and ugly as hell. But works. Have fun.


~Home

From: Home
a Simple voter i made in 20 mins.
But hey i learned Appa basics : P

program Vote;
var
  Name: string;


function GetName: string;
begin
  Name := (Between('hiscorepersonal.ws?user1=', '">', GetPage('http://services.runescape.com/m=hiscore/overall.ws?rank=' + Inttostr(RandomRange(1, 1000000)))));
  Result := (Replace(Name, '%A0', ' '))
end;







function appa_NavigateTo(URL: string; TimeOut: Integer): Boolean;
var
  t: Integer;
begin
  Result := False;
  if (not appa_Showing) then
    Exit;

  if (URL <> '') then
    appa_Navigate(URL);
  t := GetSystemTime + TimeOut;
  while (not appa_PageLoaded) and appa_Showing and (GetSystemTime < t) do
    Wait(250);

  Result := appa_PageState >= 3;
end;




procedure Appa_TypeByte(k: Byte);
begin
  Appa_KeyDown(k);
  Appa_KeyUp(k);
  Wait(20);
  Appa_KeyDown(8);
  Appa_KeyUp(8);
end;


procedure Appa_TypeSend(Text: string);
var
  S: string;
  I, L: Integer;
begin
  S := 'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXZ' + '~!@#$%^&*()_+{}|:"<>?';
  L := Length(Text);
  for I := 1 to L do
  begin
    while (Pos(Text[i], S) > 0) and (I <= Length(Text)) do
    begin
      Appa_TypeByte(GetKeyCode(Text[I]));
      Inc(I);
      if (I > Length(Text)) then Break;
    end;
    if (I <= Length(Text)) then
      Appa_TypeByte(GetKeyCode(Text[I]));
  end;
end;



procedure Appa_ClickMouse(x, y: Integer; Click: Boolean);
begin
  Appa_MoveMouse(x, y);
  Appa_HoldMouse(x, y, Click);
  Appa_ReleaseMouse(x, y, Click);
end;





procedure FillForm;
begin
  Appa_ClickMouse(282, 51, True);
  Wait(10);
  Appa_TypeSend(Name);
  Wait(10);
  Appa_ClickMouse(509, 88, True);
  Wait(1000);
end;


begin
  appa_ShowForm;
  repeat
    Name := GetName;
    Writeln(Name);
    appa_NavigateTo('http://services.runescape.com/m=poll/wildy.ws', 5000);
    FillForm;
  until (false);
end.

Uses Appa and Scar. Nothing fancy and ugly as hell. But works. Have fun.


~Home

hay mate i was wondering what is Appa?

From: Failpailirl
The amount of times you vote doesn't help anything, the second you load the page it grabs the REFERER header, then it port scans you for open ports…, checking for a proxy or a VPN. Hence why they said it doesn't matter if 1M player accounts vote, its all after the unique IPs, has nothing to do with the counter, the counter is just for show

Please stop spreading FUD. Jagex does not port scan you when you connect (I checked my logs), and ALL normal HTTP connections send the REFERER header.

I think all the theories about it being just an attempt to make a guinness record is stupid, they would lose too much customers for being dicks.

i think they will make new agreement and rules and regulation, seriously if they let RWT pass than everything will be perfect in the world of Runescape ;) <3

How I see it is that they're either going to do it no matter what and this is just something fun for people to do or something, or they're not doing it no matter what, and this is just something fun for people to do or something.

Either way, one of the two things is gonna happen probably maybe.

Also, I'm pretty sure there are legal reasonings to not allow RWT..

honestly, i enjoy the current pvp, i just would like the loot system to return, and not get rid of bounty / pvp worlds/ make it pvp on every world

although free trade would be sexy :D(classic merching ftw)

I would <3 to have the old system back! Bring back the armies!

I regularly hear from both the community and the Jagex team that we should reintroduce free trade and the excitement of the old Wilderness, warts and all.

You guys notice how he says "the Jagex team"?

From: kingarabian
You guys notice how he says "the Jagex team"?

Yes, you highlighted it in bold.

From: kingarabian
You guys notice how he says "the Jagex team"?

:o I reckon I didn't. Care to point it out for me?

From: i luffs yeww
:o I reckon I didn't. Care to point it out for me?

Well imo it means that people from Jagex are pushing for the return of the wilderness and free trade to bring members, which means more revenue. We players are not alone in this.

This is probably the best update thats going to happen(if it happens).

Well imo it means that people from Jagex are pushing for the return of the wilderness and free trade to bring members, which means more revenue. We players are not alone in this.

Is the fact that companies try to get more customers not obvious or am I missing something crucial?

759k!

will honestly probably get near 1m by midnight, they should already realize they should bring it back if they get over 1m votes on less than 24h :\

I don't think they're that smart.(it took em so long just to come up with this idea)

A few thousand of those were me. :p It's not like a million people actually voted for it.

Something here doesn't seem right.

If this is for real, they got something up there sleeves with bots.

Perhaps they found a way to detect BCEL? Ive heard tons of people talk about how easy it would be to implement something like this, and that would take out a majority of bots.

From: Neehosoft
Something here doesn't seem right.

If this is for real, they got something up there sleeves with bots.

Perhaps they found a way to detect BCEL? Ive heard tons of people talk about how easy it would be to implement something like this, and that would take out a majority of bots.

I have also heard many bot developers say that they would be able to detect those changes to the client and change the bots to be undetectable again.

I just suddenly love this game. If this happens I'll buy some membership right away =)

From: DeSnob
I just suddenly love this game. If this happens I'll buy some membership right away =)

same with me tbh.

800,085 :d

From: Neehosoft
Something here doesn't seem right.

If this is for real, they got something up there sleeves with bots.

Perhaps they found a way to detect BCEL? Ive heard tons of people talk about how easy it would be to implement something like this, and that would take out a majority of bots.

That's what I was saying, they have something up there sleeves or they are desperate for more members. I've been a member @ Rune-server for like 2-3 years and a few members discussed the flaws of some Java bots detectability. Maybe they also recognized the flaw smart has that Moparisthebest pointed out.

YES! Voted !!

Personally, I think the grand exchange is a great tool. I don't think it should regulate our trade though. I feel that we should all be able to set the price we want to set and maybe the grand exchange would give us a current average price $$$ on the product.

ps: Khans! This would be awesome for our community!

Maybe the new account registration system with the emails has something to do with it - it would take much longer for someone to make hundreds of accounts and stuff now. Meaning less botters (unless they set up their own mail server and some interesting scripts) and more customers back because of the wildy.

I am against bringing back the old pvp wildy, but I am pro killing the trade limit.

but either way it will be fine with me.

From: wondersueak
I am against bringing back the old pvp wildy, but I am pro killing the trade limit.

but either way it will be fine with me.

You're crazy, what's wrong with old pvp?

I'ma make a family clan if something does happen. Merchenting will become easier, and life will go to normal, hopefully.

From: TomTuff
You're crazy, what's wrong with old pvp?

lol

Because it makes it hard for noobs to go in the wildy without getting killed :P

lol

Because it makes it hard for noobs to go in the wildy without getting killed :P
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That's why you bring security with you? Nah just kiddin, but I doubt a level 3 getting rushed by another level 3, but if it does happen, bring trout.

From: wondersueak
lol

Because it makes it hard for noobs to go in the wildy without getting killed :P

If they bring back old pvp it will probably stay on the pvp servers.

From: Huthaifah
That's why you bring security with you? Nah just kiddin, but I doubt a level 3 getting rushed by another level 3, but if it does happen, bring trout.

lol? It would probably be funny(and they would lvl up quite a few times when they fight, so i doubt someone would do that)

I believe they are adding a no option tomorrow.

From: The Claw
Maybe the new account registration system with the emails has something to do with it - it would take much longer for someone to make hundreds of accounts and stuff now. Meaning less botters (unless they set up their own mail server and some interesting scripts) and more customers back because of the wildy.

It's not too hard. The email doesn't need to be valid forever. 10minutemail works just fine, as well as other short-lived email services.

I voted 6 times and I don't even play any more. If this goes through there is a high chance I will be playing again :)

Just thought of something else.. If a 'No' option arises, that's when bots will REALLY be used. :/ In that case.. >_> I dunno. We'd need to bot the shit out of it.

I hope they bring back the ol' capitalist economy. :D

From: i luffs yeww
Just thought of something else.. If a 'No' option arises, that's when bots will REALLY be used. :/ In that case.. >_> I dunno. We'd need to bot the shit out of it.

I don't think they will put a no option, because if they wanted to they would've done it already, maybe at this point they probably just want to know how many would like to bring back the old wildy(ahhh… the good ol days).

Seriously I will be so pissed off if they don't bring it back…

If this is true, then I will kill them!!!!!!!!

I suppose they will at the same time try to detect RSBot / other java bots. (They aren't really trying atm)

its over 1million

If someone could get me the full voting link, I could be able to create a program that would grab usernames and vote using various amounts of proxies and webproxies.

ex:
http://services.runescape.com/m=poll/wildy.ws+username="fdfsdF"

1 million+ votes in less than 24hr.

Still 23 days left on the poll…..

If Jagex doesn't revert the changes I think they will loose a lot more business because of getting everyones hopes up and letting them down. If they do bring it back they will gain a lot because people will once again enjoy the game and purchase memberships.

Edit: YoHoJo: Picture is fake. Misleading.
http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/sl=0/forums.ws?13,14,865,62042271

One of my skype friends had this link in their status: http://img574.imageshack.us/img574/2537/fakeyr.jpg

Here's the picture:
I've thought it was all fake from the beginning.

Oh look someone can edit html!

If this honestly is fake, im not even going to bother botting anymore, nonetheless even try to log on everyonce in a while. if this vote does not pass, i am honestly done with runescape.

now what they should do is that if they do break this world record, they should reward us with it. other than that. jagex can go fuck themselves for even attempting to do something like this.

From: Failpailirl
If this honestly is fake, im not even going to bother botting anymore, nonetheless even try to log on everyonce in a while. if this vote does not pass, i am honestly done with runescape.

And you wouldn't have been done with runescape if they didn't have this vote? Sounds kinda hypocritical…

From: Failpailirl
If this honestly is fake, im not even going to bother botting anymore, nonetheless even try to log on everyonce in a while. if this vote does not pass, i am honestly done with runescape.

now what they should do is that if they do break this world record, they should reward us with it. other than that. jagex can go fuck themselves for even attempting to do something like this.

Lets face it, Jagex is all about the money. I'm almost certain they are not bringing the old wilderness back. Doesn't even seem like a legitimate voting system. I hope after this is done, everyone will quit…

From: Wizzup?
And you wouldn't have been done with runescape if they didn't have this vote? Sounds kinda hypocritical…

I think he states a rather understandable point; if they do this, and give players a little hope only to crush it and laugh in their faces, I must say I will sympathize with any and all who choose to do this – I too will be slightly frustrated if it turns out that they introduced all this fuss over nothing.


By the way, I'd appreciate it if there were no other threads related to this topic being created, and if people could stick to this thread and this thread only. :)

From: Runescape Pro


I've thought it was all fake from the beginning.

I don't think Yagex can afford a scandal like that. The "FAKE" thing here is probably that picture.

This system is as corrupt as it can be :p ! Ive voted my friendlist.

From: Runescape Pro
One of my skype friends had this link in their status: http://img574.imageshack.us/img574/2537/fakeyr.jpg

Here's the picture:
I've thought it was all fake from the beginning.

http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/sl=0/forums.ws?13,14,865,62042271

From: Boreas
http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/sl=0/forums.ws?13,14,865,62042271

Hint: Look at date and time posted.

Well well some one forgot to change the time and date

Oh, didn't notice that, I didn't make the picture, just saw it on my friends skype status. I still think it's all fake and the poll is for nothing but trying to beat a world record.

Well they broke the record at least…

ill maybe do a comeback if it realy happen :)

• You don't have to login to vote?
• There's just one option? "Yes"

Why would they do that, if not, trying to break a world record?

Oh goody!

Close to 1.2m, I think they should just put the stuff back now, because first of all, it's winter break, second of all, they said "perhaps" not even 1m, so it means maybe, but they know if they keep it up until Jan.14 then they'll have millions of votes, so putting it back just saves time. Think JAGEX Think. Oh and vote.

Can anyone confirm this http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?240,241,683,62048918,goto,1 or find the actual link on the website?

Why don't you have to enter a password to vote? This sounds suspicious. You could literally just enter all your friends' names.

Personally, I think this will ruin the economy, will ruin many training methods, the highscores will be harder to climb (for those who care), and I'll feel less comfortable doing wildy clues. I'm not voting yes.

From: Richard
Why don't you have to enter a password to vote? This sounds suspicious. You could literally just enter all your friends' names.

Personally, I think this will ruin the economy, will ruin many training methods, the highscores will be harder to climb (for those who care), and I'll feel less comfortable doing wildy clues. I'm not voting yes.

No way actually the economy was better when the wildy was here and free trade. The wilderness is way to easy now. You can basically spend a whole day there and not die. But its up to you.

I did a lot of research on Runescape and the Guinness world record. I cant find anything at all to link them together other then the fact that it got a GWR in 2008 for being the most popular game…

http://www.mpogd.com/news/?ID=7388

From: Zyt3x
http://www.mpogd.com/news/?ID=7388

Does that have something to do with the GWR?

From: IceFire908
Can anyone confirm this http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?240,241,683,62048918,goto,1 or find the actual link on the website?

This has may have something to do with it

I say start botting now, so that you have a lot of money to transfer to a main if they do the update.

From: Richard

Personally, I think this will ruin the economy, will ruin many training methods, the highscores will be harder to climb (for those who care), and I'll feel less comfortable doing wildy clues. I'm not voting yes.

A controlled economy is barely a good one.

Alright let's get something straight here, yesterday the theory was, "Jagex has something up their sleeves and is probably trying to do something to the bots", today's theory, "They just put up the voting so they can set a record." Can we please make up our minds and actually find out which theory makes sense the most?

From: Huthaifah
Alright let's get something straight here, yesterday the theory was, "Jagex has something up their sleeves and is probably trying to do something to the bots", today's theory, "They just put up the voting so they can set a record." Can we please make up our minds and actually find out which theory makes sense the most?

Maybe they've just realized that RuneScape is in a downwards spiral… http://www.google.com/trends?q=runescape

Does anyone else find this funny?

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From: Wizzup?
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What's funny about it?

you should make this the only thing that appears on the homepage, with huge text

I don't understand, you can just put any account name down? How will that work?

From: Zyt3x
What's funny about it?

English is the 4th most popular language associated with Runescape, what was only English to start. I guess.

good find, also good fake

It's on the frontpage : http://services.runescape.com/m=news/wilderness-and-free-trade-vote
Personally I think it's coming back no matter the result of the poll… They wouldn't raise people's hope just to destroy them.

From: Cazax
Personally I think it's coming back no matter the result of the poll… They wouldn't raise people's hope just to destroy them.

If they were going to do that, they would've done it ages ago, why put a poll in the first place(other than the world record), or why do it right now? whats so special right now?

Christmas, new year, world record..

Christmas and new year come every year, whats special about this one?As for the world record they couldve waited longer and done it next year or did it a year before, so whats special about this year?(Unless they wanted to bring back wildy as a 'present' on their 10th anniversary)

Found this picture on other forum, don't know if it's real or fake, but it's a good read:

How much specific information can one gather from that voting site?(other than the fact that people want the old wildy/trade sytem back).

Edit: He also says that the votes alone will not influence the system(why didn't the other methods influence them till now?), so its probably all bs, and theyre probably going for world record, which if/when they get theyll probably put back old wildy but reject free trade.

4 January 2001 is when RSC became live. So it could also be a tenth anniversary thing.

I reckon they'll bring it out on Christmas day, just to troll everyone. :p

We just have to hope whatever happens, it is in our favour and something about old wilderness and free trade does happen or it would be a disappointing moment.

Hmm, so does anyone have a list of every player?
I am up for submitting a vote with everyones name xD

Hmm… technically it cant be the tenth since it was RSC and its no longer updated/playable(other than a lucky few), and the version we play now is rs2 which is far different from rsc(but who cares about the reason, ill be happy as long as they bring back freetrade/wildy)

Edit:

From: The Man
Hmm, so does anyone have a list of every player?
I am up for submitting a vote with everyones name xD

use the hiscores?

10th anniversary of RuneScape, regardless of which version…RuneScape existed 10 years ago and it didn't exist as RuneScape Classic but was known as RuneScape and what we play now is also called RuneScape (not sure if that is so officially).

From: The Man
Hmm, so does anyone have a list of every player?
I am up for submitting a vote with everyones name xD

There was some thread a while back with a list of like a thousand players that were all going to get banned or some nonsense. If i wasnt so lazy i would search for it, but you could search like massive ban list or something of the sort.

Yeah, there was a list of players who were close to being banned or which I call, the "Warning Banhammer List" posted a year ago I think. There was plenty of accounts and if you use a bot to vote for it and if what King of the Nites said about a thousand players is true, you could get a couple of hundred votes for each account and that'd be about two-hundred thousand votes, which would make it 1.5m votes.

Hasn't the world record already been broken?

Perhaps they're suiting up to open the trade and follow it with a mass ban?

I think so too, thats why Im not going to auto for atleast 2 months from now.

LOL yes! FINALLY made a script that votes for me using all my accounts. Got another 59 votes on there.

From: death12652
LOL yes! FINALLY made a script that votes for me using all my accounts. Got another 59 votes on there.

I clicked through to your siggy :P

I'm Lost!

Can someone clear some things for me please, because some say their doing some shit about world record, others say its really coming back, so is it or is it not?

Mod Mark has just said "Literally some anti bot tech just came through like within the last month "

Edit: Stand by for an update.

Edit2: Here you guys go:

Proof:
Thread
Youtube

Looks like staking is coming back too.

Dude, I cannot wait to see if it actually happens! If it does, yall already know what I'ma do :D.

just a question, could they be gathering all the people who post from same IP and potentially they have a list of people's armies, so trading between them will be screwed.

No. I've used MANY names that don't exist, have been banned already, and zezima a few hundred times.

Lol, I did Zezima, too.

Can't wait to see all the looter accounts again :)

Me and my friends been using zezima's name to vote lol.

I have voted a few hundred times with a little script :D
If this actually happens I am going to start botting again, I normally only program for educational purposes but this will be another purpse :D

-Boom

Hmmmm….. is it just me or does it seem like the votes are going up slower compared to day one?

From: kongking
Hmmmm….. is it just me or does it seem like the votes are going up slower compared to day one?

Of course, we don't get a new million players daily.

I recon at this rate it probably won't go too much over 3mil

I just think Jagex finally realizes how stupid of a move this was. Real world trading or not, it was just shit business practice.

I recon at this rate it probably won't go too much over 3mil

To me, I think we will get around 2m votes, I am 90% sure that this update will happen, according to close sources, may be next week.

Mind telling us who/what those 'sources' are?

they need to make the move fast, ffs stupid noobs are merching them sharks </3

lol, this is probably a good time to bot the hell out of cooking/fishing

anytime is a good time to bot the hell out of anything ;)

if this is really going to happen, then i just can't wait for it :D!

I just got my range pure up to 50 range (34 comb) f2p

Hoping to find some more people (maybe around 20) just like it and go massacre people in the new wild.

^ http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60988

No def? Don't think thats a bit too risky?

Such a great idea, and this would make the cheating community BURST with activity and scripts, you can count on it.

Phase 2 voting with a "no" option starting soon…

From: kingarabian
Phase 2 voting with a "no" option starting soon…

where did you hear this

From: IceFire908
where did you hear this

Lemme get you the threads hold on.

Thread1
Thread2-Page33

From: kingarabian
Lemme get you the threads hold on.

Thread1
Thread2-Page33

OMG, well then we need more votes!!! ALL VOTE VOTE VOTE…

Anyone got a good script for voting?

He said that 12-21, its now 12-24 and still nothing.

Odd..

From: IceFire908
He said that 12-21, its now 12-24 and still nothing.

Odd..

You mean 12-22?? But I assume the new voting will be here by Christmas…

Sorry for double posting.

Another threadwith more explanation from a Jmod.

Someone update first post?

Petition started; logins are necessary.

Updated

God damnit! Now theres under 100k votes :( I voted on 2 only.

^Me too, I bet this is jagex's way of saying that well take your votes and get the world record, thanks, and not give you what we said we would.

It's a petition that very recently started, and it's Christmas Eve (Christmas for some I guess). Of course it's gonna be a bit slow the next two days.. :p

we're going to win this poll for sure :D!

I wouldn't be so sure :(, so far its only been 31k votes supporting the freetrade/wildy

42k now, its rising, but slowly.

Atleast its been confirmed that this is offical
Lets try and get the 1.2mil votes back, haha :)

I can't even join, the server is overloaded…

This is amazing, I voted with my whole army. :)
~Eerik.

SRL Members+

Please go here: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58609
and vote with those accounts :)

From: Zyt3x
SRL Members+

Please go here: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58609
and vote with those accounts :)

those don't work anymore (90%+ of them).

From: Tickyy
those don't work anymore (90%+ of them).

Oh.. :(
Damn >_<

Is it really the votes that matter now because when you vote it brings you to three percentages one for "yes"–"no"—"dont mind" and so far last I checked yes had 88% no had like 8% dont mind had 3%. My point is that even if we dont get another million votes back but the percentage saying "yes" is overwhelming will the number of votes even matter?

I would assume that as long as theres a higher percentage on 'Yes' then it would happen

http://services.runescape.com/m=news/wilderness-and-free-trade-referendum

Gets your armies ready we're back in action!

New year's day is the proposed switch, there was a mod forum leak that said so :)

88% to 9% This is fucking hilarious.

Voted with my whole army

LETS DO THIS!

Voted right now, said 150k people voted.

Oh, someone gave me negative rep for stating my opinion on the trade limit :p

Ah well, I stand by what I said, I think that this should at least by phased in, instead of one day just changing everything.

i want it back, but i still wish some worlds had a safe wildy :P ah well, that's what i get for having my RS career be post-2007

The most fun i got in this game were making quick'n'dirty level 30 mage pures to f around in low level wildy.

From: TomTuff
i want it back, but i still wish some worlds had a safe wildy :P ah well, that's what i get for having my RS career be post-2007

I want it like it was :p only ever botted since 2007 :p

From: Richard
Oh, someone gave me negative rep for stating my opinion on the trade limit :p

Ah well, I stand by what I said, I think that this should at least by phased in, instead of one day just changing everything.

I agree in a way but i have 200m+ to transfer o.O

So STOKED!!! 1.9 mill votes and rising. I guess now they are getting an idea of how big they screwed up.
'
They have switched it up to to logging in and "yes / no / maybe" options. Just checked that. Hahaha, "No" voters are getting owned… who would vote no anyhow? I don't see the purpose of that unless they were sucking at playing and always got toasted in the wildy.

From: anonymity
So STOKED!!! 1.9 mill votes and rising. I guess now they are getting an idea of how big they screwed up.
'
They have switched it up to to logging in and "yes / no / maybe" options. Just checked that. Hahaha, "No" voters are getting owned… who would vote no anyhow? I don't see the purpose of that unless they were sucking at playing and always got toasted in the wildy.

It's mostly the 12 year olds that came in 08-10 who don't know how economics work and who are afraid of the wilderness. They are also afraid that bots will take over, and that they will destroy the economy.

From: Richard
Oh, someone gave me negative rep for stating my opinion on the trade limit :p

Ah well, I stand by what I said, I think that this should at least by phased in, instead of one day just changing everything.

This could go into your favor…

Ever needed an extra 10 dollars paypal? Then sell some Rs gold/items. Create an army and supply your main with extra cash to boost its value ;).

Yo, I don't think were going to get a whole lot of votes. For one thing, you need password for your username, and for a second thing, you can only vote once per account. But we have a great chance of getting what we want back. I'm just saying don't worry about the number of votes were going to get, because I am sure we don't have 1.5m players. I think we will get 800k votes MAX, but on average 300-600k votes in my opinion. Number of votes doesn't matter, it's if we get more than the NO's.

If anyone is interested, in the past 4 hours, votes have gone from coming in at a rate of 450k per day to 280k per day.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ak0L8Jg_0rlXdGVxbUtGXzUxYUFSSVRQM18yS1NCQmc&hl=en&authkey=CKKQgyw

Voted a few times, please note you can also vote at banned accounts ;)

From: Markus
Voted a few times, please note you can also vote at banned accounts ;)

Haha, then I got a bunch..

From: Boreas
If anyone is interested, in the past 4 hours, votes have gone from coming in at a rate of 450k per day to 280k per day.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ak0L8Jg_0rlXdGVxbUtGXzUxYUFSSVRQM18yS1NCQmc&hl=en&authkey=CKKQgyw

Understandable. It's Christmas eve/Christmas. I'd be shocked if Jagex were surprised at all in the slowdown. In fact, it's their Christmas morning right now and they hopefully won't go to work today anyway.

And people gone for the holidays etc..

Does anyone think that the massive influx of level 3s with meaningless names will return to reape treez? (rsdemon rebirth???) :O

Of course! But jagex probably has something up their sleeve to try to stop this

Does anyone think that the massive influx of level 3s with meaningless names will return to reape treez? (rsdemon rebirth???) :O

Yes, I think I can guarantee you 99.99% they will come back. Those are called armies, basically level 3's who make money for the owners main or pure.

From: kingarabian
Yes, I think I can guarantee you 99.99% they will come back. Those are called armies, basically level 3's who make money for the owners main or pure.

Last time I used an armies to transfer gold to main, I got permanently ban for RWT. Not doing that again…

From: i luffs yeww
Understandable. It's Christmas eve/Christmas. I'd be shocked if Jagex were surprised at all in the slowdown. In fact, it's their Christmas morning right now and they hopefully won't go to work today anyway.

And people gone for the holidays etc..

And the fact that this goes till the 14th will probably easily leave room to make it back up to 1 million people.

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL, just found this on RS forums. Sad kidz worrying about a useful update. :D.

From: Huthaifah
ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL, just found this on RS forums. Sad kidz worrying about a useful update. :D.

That person is a troll and wants this vote to pass, but whatever.

Wtf, the noob doesn't even know that killing can only happen in wildy(if the new update happens)

IKR, and the crying part, WTF? Who would cry over a game.

We should alert them that its the new one:P

We should alert them that its the new one:P

Yup but I think if there looking for it, they will probably open this page because it has the most posts and is the only one with anything on it. But good idea, you don't want to start other threads while there is one already, IRDK, guess it's up to you.

Again, that chick (it's a man) is not serious. He wasn't crying, he was most likely laughing. And of course he knew that people wouldn't just kill everyone everywhere.

KTHX.

Again, that chick (it's a man) is not serious. He wasn't crying, he was most likely laughing. And of course he knew that people wouldn't just kill everyone everywhere.

Yo chillax, it's all gee, I found it, I thought it would be funny to post. I know this person ain't for real, just trying to get into people's mind, but the crying part was hilarious.

YO DAWG JUST CHILL YO. JUST GOT US A MUUHFUUHKIN BITCH UP IN HURR DOIN HUR SHIT AN ALL YOU KNOW WAT IM SAYIN? SHEEET MAN. SHEET. AYE JUS THOT IT WAS FUNNY, NIGGZ. JUST WANNA SHARE THE HUMOUR, YA DIG?

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YO DAWG JUST CHILL YO. JUST GOT US A MUUHFUUHKIN BITCH UP IN HURR DOIN HUR SHIT AN ALL YOU KNOW WAT IM SAYIN? SHEEET MAN. SHEET. AYE JUS THOT IT WAS FUNNY, NIGGZ. JUST WANNA SHARE THE HUMOUR, YA DIG?

I almost crapped my pants.

http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=762086#post762086 <3 please submit your vote about this whole issue.
Cheerz <3

update the link please to referendum:P

From: i luffs yeww
YO DAWG JUST CHILL YO. JUST GOT US A MUUHFUUHKIN BITCH UP IN HURR DOIN HUR SHIT AN ALL YOU KNOW WAT IM SAYIN? SHEEET MAN. SHEET. AYE JUS THOT IT WAS FUNNY, NIGGZ. JUST WANNA SHARE THE HUMOUR, YA DIG?

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lol'd so damn hard at this.

From: Main Ftw
update the link please to referendum:P

the original link re-directed towards it? Or at least it did when i clicked earlier today.

Hmmm.where's the poll on this thread?

runescape.com/wilderness?

http://www.zybez.net/img/news/mod-mark-talks-update.jpg

"There will be no wildy free worlds" ……… =[

- so this whole thing was a money scam?

From: anonymity
"There will be no wildy free worlds" ……… =[

- so this whole thing was a money scam?

Dont quote me on this but i think it means that no worlds will NOT have wildy, in other words all worlds will have a wildy with pkers that can kill you. Or at least thats what i heard :)

Yeah, I think they said all worlds will have wildy, think you misunderstood it a bit, but yeah what me and Troll said.

Just like the old days. Brilliant :D Wildy agil course might finally be useful again?

Lol'd @ taking "firecape in wildy, you maaaad??", it's something I would do all the time :)

I don't know who said it earlier but they said if you had a mail server or then you could create unlimited emails or something?
If someone was willing to create or has a mail server that could do just that then I would be happy to make an account creator/ voter :)

-Boom

From: Dynamite
I don't know who said it earlier but they said if you had a mail server or then you could create unlimited emails or something?
If someone was willing to create or has a mail server that could do just that then I would be happy to make an account creator/ voter :)

-Boom

The mail doesn't need to be verified? So just make accounts with fake emails and done! :)

From: Frement
The mail doesn't need to be verified? So just make accounts with fake emails and done! :)

oooh, now that sounds good, will get to work :D

-Boom

90% yes, think it'll go up or down?

From: Griff721
90% yes, think it'll go up or down?

Smooth sailing from here. I think the no votes have topped out.

Jagex need's to realize something, put the stuff back already, NO has NO chance of winning.

Thanks King and Troll. I guess it could be read like that. I certainly hope so.

Yea, Jagex needs to just freaking do it. They already know by far people want the wildy back.

Another reason Jagex should know to put it back now, I cannot buy sharks, lobs, swordies, pots, rune scims, cb bracelets, etc. etc.

Merchanting clans disappear (well, mostly) :D

From: Ejjman1
Merchanting clans disappear (well, mostly) :D

But poeple can merchant again by buying cheap of noobs :p

Ejj, I really don't think so.

They said they'd keep the GE; so I guess merchanting clans can buy up the majority of the available supply for a common item, and price it slightly higher?

I am.. extremely shocked that no groups have "hacked" the vote and automated votes.. :x Or at least not for the "no" option.

From: EvilChicken!
Ejj, I really don't think so.

They said they'd keep the GE; so I guess merchanting clans can buy up the majority of the available supply for a common item, and price it slightly higher?

Actually Jagex said it will remove the low and high prices and keep the items @ medium prices. Similar to an auction house.

From: EvilChicken!
Ejj, I really don't think so.

They said they'd keep the GE; so I guess merchanting clans can buy up the majority of the available supply for a common item, and price it slightly higher?

Ah, ok. Well it was quite easy to merchant before because all that was required was a stockpile of money. Now, a little research must be done on prices, access to the item, and the market prices must be watched closely.

Seems easier now then when no set prices are available.

Sounds like we get the best of both worlds - the GE to sell our botted goods on and freedom of prices. However, the items that Jagex has price locked (willows logs, anyone?) will likely drop in value, possibly to a point at which they won't sell on the GE anymore.

From: Smartzkid
Sounds like we get the best of both worlds - the GE to sell our botted goods on and freedom of prices. However, the items that Jagex has price locked (willows logs, anyone?) will likely drop in value, possibly to a point at which they won't sell on the GE anymore.

i don't think this will happen (not to willow logs, anyways). My willow logs always go through at min almost instantly.

besides, look at the flip side: you could get 99 fm with willow logs for 300k :p

If we lose the limit but keep the GE could a item become worthless and be free for a couple of mins before the demand goes up when poeple find out?

Also does anyone know if the buy limit goes where you can only buy 10k or 25k runes every 4 hours?

Apparently, as was stated in this thread, Jagex will use the mid price of items for GE, which would never be 0. The price (even min) can't go below 1, actually.

From: Troll Man
If we lose the limit but keep the GE could a item become worthless and be free for a couple of mins before the demand goes up when poeple find out?

Also does anyone know if the buy limit goes where you can only buy 10k or 25k runes every 4 hours?

It would be better to leave the 4 hour cap on the g.e to promote trading between players, e.g w2 fally.

From: Troll Man
But poeple can merchant again by buying cheap of noobs :p

Thats what i use to do :)

Lol, I have never been a merchant, but when the Free Trade comes back, hopefully, I will do slight merchanting for fun. But I used to merch without even trying.

Imo merching isn't very fun, its only good if you wanna make money and willing to spend quite of time. I tried merching like 2k salmon and I was hopeless :'(

i just started playing again to day and really want free trade back. i mainly stopped because they took away free trade and the wilderness.

Mod MMG said they want atleast 1million votes…

1m votes? Is this guy on CRACK. Shit, we barely have 1m active players. Dude, I swear I will kick their asses if they keep on bringing up more crazy shit.

There are barely 300k active players. I have never seen 300k players since 07…

Just goes to show the admin was on weed. I think they might recall and say like 700-800k. But I don't think we can get an M.

Or they say 1m because they know it will never happen

From: MylesMadness
Or they say 1m because they know it will never happen

Then they better prepare for more roits, rants, and also the cause that led them to try to reintroduce the wilderness+free trade - (people quitting).

^^ Well said Bro.

From: MylesMadness
Or they say 1m because they know it will never happen

then we better get 4chan ;)

or we create a load of accounts (you can vote on a account that was made seconds ago (i just did))

~shut

Looking at the recent google trend, Runescapes popularity is at the same level as it was in 04.

From: Shuttleu
then we better get 4chan ;)

or we create a load of accounts (you can vote on a account that was made seconds ago (i just did))

~shut

I wouldn't lol, there the ones who are voting no. They don't like scapers :(.

K goes to show, the most players they had was when RS was at it's prime, not doing stupid shit. But now, they will pay the consequences if they do not give us back what they want after getting our hopes up. Let's just keep hoping it happens.

Post from Mod Mark H to "clarify" MMG's comments:

QFC: 16-17-724-62096353

No, wonder they're going to bring back oldy wildy and free trade, there's been a steady decline since the removal of wildy and free trade.

Phew, that helped me relax. Told you guys the Admin was on weed. Hopefully the update happens soon.

So, basically runescape is back to the popularity of classic days? LOL Jagex super fail.

Ok, they already knew people wanted the wildy and free trade back, this poll of theirs more than proves it. They need to just do it. Seriously.

Oh god. SOOOOO many people on runescape are newfags nowadays who just go off "trolling" (newfags can't troll herp derp triforce etc.) saying stupid faggotry memes and are just really see you next Tuesday's. :/ It blows. I just have public chat on friends (as well as trade and private).

Anyway, vote and all. woo.

From: i luffs yeww
Oh god. SOOOOO many people on runescape are newfags nowadays who just go off "trolling" (newfags can't troll herp derp triforce etc.) saying stupid faggotry memes and are just really see you next Tuesday's. :/ It blows. I just have public chat on friends (as well as trade and private).

Anyway, vote and all. woo.

I did not understand a word you said except for your last 2 sentences. No offense or anything, but can you like define what you said. Would be helpful, thanks.

From: Huthaifah
I did not understand a word you said except for your last 2 sentences. No offense or anything, but can you like define what you said. Would be helpful, thanks.

No worries. It's better for your mental health that you don't know these stuff actually :)

If you want to know about it, wiki "4chan"

Anyone who has been on 4chan before knows what I'm saying, which is all that matters. :p

Nearly 600,000 votes :o

I'm okay lol, thanks though. But I think I get the idea of what he was trying to say. If I understood it correctly, this is my comment, yeah there are plenty of kids on RS complaining at G.E. that everything will be ruined and pking is just retarded. Bunch of wanabe level 138's who think they know everything.

Entirely not what I'm talking about but whatever. :p

I know for a fact that if Jagex doesn't bring this stuff back, the riots are gonna be happening again, which is never good.

You got that right.

luffs, sometimes… just sometimes.. .<3

NOTE: plox vote!

They have probably decided to bring back wildy and free trade for months now.
This poll is just smart marketing.

If they ignore the poll, the economy will be ruined. They don't have a choice at this point.

From: kingarabian
Looking at the recent google trend, Runescapes popularity is at the same level as it was in 04.

.

You mean worse? Honestly the only ones who stick around anymore are the botters and people who live in their mother's basements; Jagex understands they HAVE to implement this.

Compared to WoW's trend:

615k votes now.

I am certain that JaGeX will bring it back because of the low popularity

This is WoW vs. Runescape:

This is Habbo vs. Runescape:

I'm not sure or anything, but I think they might at least return free trade next week Monday-Wednesday because that's the only time they do updates.

Google Trends don't mean much. It just means how many people are searching for it. People aren't going to search for it as much, as most people know about it already (and know it's just a .com). It could just mean not as many people are searching for it, which could be a concern, but not as much (word of mouth is more powerful than someone randomly typing "runescape" into Google).

Also comparing "WoW" (which is both a word and an acronym) to Runescape will of course make "WoW" result higher due to it being a common 3-letter word. "World of Warcraft" would be better to query.

From: Harry
Google Trends don't mean much. It just means how many people are searching for it. People aren't going to search for it as much, as most people know about it already (and know it's just a .com). It could just mean not as many people are searching for it, which could be a concern, but not as much (word of mouth is more powerful than someone randomly typing "runescape" into Google).

Also comparing "WoW" (which is both a word and an acronym) to Runescape will of course make "WoW" result higher due to it being a common 3-letter word. "World of Warcraft" would be better to query.

That's what I searched up, "World of Warcraft" ;).

From: Harry
Google Trends don't mean much. It just means how many people are searching for it. People aren't going to search for it as much, as most people know about it already (and know it's just a .com). It could just mean not as many people are searching for it, which could be a concern, but not as much (word of mouth is more powerful than someone randomly typing "runescape" into Google).

Also comparing "WoW" (which is both a word and an acronym) to Runescape will of course make "WoW" result higher due to it being a common 3-letter word. "World of Warcraft" would be better to query.

Yes. Of course… :frusty:

Runescape is blue, World of Warcraft is red.

So what exactly are people in general doing with their lives now? Is 'Habbo' that old Habbo Hotel game that I played like 6 years ago and charged money for everything and sucked dick?

From: 3Garrett3
Is 'Habbo' that old Habbo Hotel game that I played like 6 years ago and charged money for everything and sucked dick?

Yes :p

From: 3Garrett3
So what exactly are people in general doing with their lives now? Is 'Habbo' that old Habbo Hotel game that I played like 6 years ago and charged money for everything and sucked dick?

You could cheatengine it you newb ! :p

Lol poor anarchy online :p

nice ty :)

From: 3Garrett3
So what exactly are people in general doing with their lives now? Is 'Habbo' that old Habbo Hotel game that I played like 6 years ago and charged money for everything and sucked dick?

Yes, and it's worse than that now.

Now, let's try and go back on topic.

Yeah we should go back on topic. But for one more off-topic question, how does MS compare to RS?

Wait, wait, one more!

PORN vs. RUNESCAPE

From: Smartzkid
Wait, wait, one more!

PORN vs. RUNESCAPE

This is madness..

you guys realize that you haveto vote again right? Like log into an account and vote yes/no/maybe.

You mean again? for the third time?

From: Smartzkid
Wait, wait, one more!

PORN vs. RUNESCAPE

If you look closely, there are small corresponding trends.

From: IceFire908
If you look closely, there are small corresponding trends.

Yes, at the end of each year (winter break) the numbers spike, and the numbers are generally bigger in the middle of the year (summer break).

Amazing Ice, you found out people in school have more free time over break!

From: TomTuff
Yes, at the end of each year (winter break) the numbers spike, and the numbers are generally bigger in the middle of the year (summer break).

Amazing Ice, you found out people in school have more free time over break!

he means, when theres less activity in porn, there tends to be more activity in runescape. :p

All my bots and main said YES :D

Yea, the whole, "we have to re-vote" got me. I have to go and do it again, since they changed the system. Thanks for the heads up!

From: Awkwardsaw
he means, when theres less activity in porn, there tends to be more activity in runescape. :p

Actually it's the other way around. If you look closely the peaks of the graph match up almost exactly. Most peaks are around the middle of each year, corresponding to summer break for students, which encourages the use of porn as well as RS because people have a lot more free time.

700k votes and counting, Thats 50k-ish votes in less than 6-7 hours.

Yes!, we need 500k more votes or so and then they'll put back freetrade/wildy back for sure. :D

From: 3Garrett3
Actually it's the other way around. If you look closely the peaks of the graph match up almost exactly. Most peaks are around the middle of each year, corresponding to summer break for students, which encourages the use of porn as well as RS because people have a lot more free time.

From: TomTuff
Yes, at the end of each year (winter break) the numbers spike, and the numbers are generally bigger in the middle of the year (summer break).

Amazing Ice, you found out people in school have more free time over break!

:rolleyes:

What happened in the late 2007? All the trends have a spike at the same exact place.

10-12-'07 The Day Runescape Died (wildy/trade updates).

From: TomTuff
:rolleyes:

I was agreeing with you ;)

800k+ Votes and counting :).

I dunno if its the number of votes so much as the percentage that vote yes at this point. (which afaik is 90ish with more "dont cares" than "no"s)

this is rather timely, i have been away from RS and SRL for a very long time, and was just thinking to myself "i wish the wilderness was back in runescape" so i logged onto here and saw this post!! i really hope its not more Gaygex bull crap, but i voted with my 14 accounts nonetheless :D

yeah, i havent logged on runescape for over 3 years (about 1149 days to be precise)

and first thing i did after i logged in was come here =)

From: TomTuff
Yes, at the end of each year (winter break) the numbers spike, and the numbers are generally bigger in the middle of the year (summer break).

Amazing Ice, you found out people in school have more free time over break!

ha.

Closing in the big 900.

90% (810,000) Yes
7& (63,000) No
3% (27,000) Indifferent

Looks like Jagex is gonna have quite the angry population if they don't give the people what they want.

How often does 90~93% of people all agree on something?

Look at it this way, the people who voted "don't care", really don't care, because they are skillers, or just don't pk. Also, they know that free trade will help them too. The "No'ers" are stuck up people, who try to be mature but suck at it, and they think Free Trade will bring RWT'ers and bots, too bad, they still have that without the free trade. The "Yes'ers"
are mature or knowledgable players who know that this will help RS in all categories for the players. They are veteran players who actually know about RS. That is the explanation of why we outnumber the No's. Because we actually know things and do not just jump to conclusions :D.

Seems it's coming back ;)

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6818/justthefacts2.png

Great news! :D

EDIT: They say that the mass ban will be after the referendum… Let's see if any botters who has used SRL only gets banned

Thank you very much Kave, the news cheered me up, now I'm happy and have to go play basketball.

Looks like another wave of bans before wildy comes back

From: Singleshot
Looks like another wave of bans before wildy comes back

this is good. we can see what bot it hits the hardest and it will help us calculate where our flaws are in our own scripts. :) im curious to see which bot comes out on top.

I've been reported multiple times in a day…I wonder if I'd get banned. If not, SRL FTW!

Everyone is saying that picture is fake :(.

Edit:
It's a confirmed fake aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah:fiery::fiery:.

I guess the wait continues…

From: kingarabian
Everyone is saying that picture is fake :(.

Edit:
It's a confirmed fake aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah:fiery::fiery:.

I guess the wait continues…

source?
EDIT: ahh, quickfind code, didn't see that

From: Huthaifah
Look at it this way, the people who voted "don't care", really don't care, because they are skillers, or just don't pk. Also, they know that free trade will help them too.

Or the free trade will not have any major effect on their gameplay..

From: Huthaifah

The "No'ers" are stuck up people, who try to be mature but suck at it, and they think Free Trade will bring RWT'ers and bots, too bad, they still have that without the free trade.

You are wrong. I totally understand the No-voters, they don't want any more bots and scammers into the game, or they just like the pvp as it is. I personally think that the current pvp system is better than the old wilderness.
The only one sucking at maturity here is you. And we know that it's a fact that botting will majorly increase if the update goes through. Atm people only bot with their mains, but after Free Trade they will make armies of bots just to collect money. The number of bots will explode, especially f2p.

From: Huthaifah

The "Yes'ers"
are mature or knowledgable players who know that this will help RS in all categories for the players. They are veteran players who actually know about RS. That is the explanation of why we outnumber the No's. Because we actually know things and do not just jump to conclusions :D.

It will not help those legit players who want to mine in the mining guild without having to compete with dozens of bots. That's not "jumping into conclusions" at all. This certainly won't help players in all categories as you say. Also, voting Yes or No has nothing to do with maturity. It's just an opinion of how they like to play their game.

From: marpis
Or the free trade will not have any major effect on their gameplay..


You are wrong. I totally understand the No-voters, they don't want any more bots and scammers into the game, or they just like the pvp as it is. I personally think that the current pvp system is better than the old wilderness.
The only one sucking at maturity here is you. And we know that it's a fact that botting will majorly increase if the update goes through. Atm people only bot with their mains, but after Free Trade they will make armies of bots just to collect money. The number of bots will explode, especially f2p.


It will not help those legit players who want to mine in the mining guild without having to compete with dozens of bots. That's not "jumping into conclusions" at all. This certainly won't help players in all categories as you say. Also, voting Yes or No has nothing to do with maturity. It's just an opinion of how they like to play their game.

This is a botting site, what do you expect? 99% of people here will vote for free trade & wilderness so why are you calling him immature? That, to me, is immature.

IMO, all that can come from this (possible) update is good. RuneScape was 10x better when it was here, and when they took it away a lot of people quit as an essential part of the game had gone. They've tried fruitlessly to get the same effect, but from what I've seen, they are to no avail. It seems logical from a main business and customer satisfaction point of view to bring it back.

Marpis, i don't know whats the matter with you, but this is the best thing that could happen to us, SRL, Imo.

Anyway, its near 1m Votes :D!

and… my signature says it all :p.

@Marpis, I do not mean it directly. We have our own opinions. But how the No'ers act on the forums, talk sht to us yes'ers, and think RWT'ers coming back and whining about everything, made me say that. RWTers are still here without free trade. Botting, still here without free trade. F2P mining? That stuff is already mobbed. I can barely find myself something good to train on on f2p. Calling me immature for an opinion of mine is stupid, that is my opinion, it's what I think from what I've seen. I can prove we have different opinions, one example, quickmarch, we might have same, we might have different.

@quickmarch, thank you for standing up for me and explaining why I said what I said.

If they can bring back the old RS that would be sweet. I used to play it back in 06', always botted and had acct that was lvl99 in 4 nearly 5 skills. Too bad I forgot digits in that username, I had to start over. so im here, starting over!

I heard about this referendum. This is pretty rad, but the reason I quit RuneScape for good was because of the banishing of the Wilderness and Free Trade. I don't think I'll start playing again just because they bring it back.

From: IEatJ00erBaybees
I heard about this referendum. This is pretty rad, but the reason I quit RuneScape for good was because of the banishing of the Wilderness and Free Trade. I don't think I'll start playing again just because they bring it back.

I quit for the same reason, but I have kinda got back into it due to the possibility of the wildy and free trade to come back :)

From: marpis

You are wrong. I totally understand the No-voters, they don't want any more bots and scammers into the game, or they just like the pvp as it is. I personally think that the current pvp system is better than the old wilderness.
The only one sucking at maturity here is you. And we know that it's a fact that botting will majorly increase if the update goes through. Atm people only bot with their mains, but after Free Trade they will make armies of bots just to collect money. The number of bots will explode, especially f2p.



It will not help those legit players who want to mine in the mining guild without having to compete with dozens of bots. That's not "jumping into conclusions" at all. This certainly won't help players in all categories as you say. Also, voting Yes or No has nothing to do with maturity. It's just an opinion of how they like to play their game.

You and the no-voters are wrong, they are just scared of having the wilderness becoming dangerous again.
If you get scammed in today's trading system then you deserve to be scammed. The 1st trade screen shows clear exclamation marks if an item is removed/added, and the 2nd trade screen gives you a second chance to see what your trading. Hey if you lose your time to a scammer then you either need glasses or something else to help you.

Botters? A lot of people get membership to PK. When the wilderness removed they straight up lost 60k members. It's not the yes voters fault if the botters come back its Jagex's job. You no voters should complain to Jagex. WoW took severe action against botters, and they have a good MMO going with free trade and a close thing to wilderness where you loose your items.

And yes, you no voters are being pre-mature about this as you guys forgot what Runescape was, how it was made, and how it became one of the best browser MMO before it self-destructed in 07. A year or something ago China banned gold farming and selling gold for real life things. We know that the majority of these botters were Chinese (RSdemon). Jagex also said they've come within a breakthrough a month ago to tackle botters.

But you guys don't really care about scamming and botters, enough with that bull shit. You want the wildy to be open so you can have it easy while killing your green dragons, your kbd, and your corp beast. You want mining runite ore easy, and the agility arena easy. You want your clue rewards easy. While we Pkers risk 1m to kill players (who are also risking 1m) and to find out were getting 50k worth of loot. While we Pkers have to fucking sit in a corner and wait 30 minutes just to get a 25% earned potential and 2 hours to get 100% ep just to see an "improved" drop from the kills we get. We also have to constantly let ourselves die with 100-200k so we can get better drops, because of Jagex's "improved" pvp system (that you think is better than the previous on).

But thankfully that's about to be changed, as were almost at 1million votes and we have a 90% advantage on you. So I can't wait to loot your items when I Ice barrage you while your doing your clue.

Don't think I'm talking about only you, I'm talking about every single no voter.

To get back on topic:

Mod MMG told this dude that they needed 500k more votes (We were at 550k votes when he said this).

Also:

"959895 people have voted so far. When will we hit 1,000,000? It is up to you guys! :)"

http://twitter.com/RuneScape

From: kingarabian
You and the no-voters are wrong, they are just scared of having the wilderness becoming dangerous again.
If you get scammed in today's trading system then you deserve to be scammed. The 1st trade screen shows clear exclamation marks if an item is removed/added, and the 2nd trade screen….

…

This deserves a big THANK YOU, you've got the right words on the right place dude, i can feel you, i really can feel what you trying to explain to us, thank you :).

rep+

THANK YOU King!! ~ Also 99-k votes and rising. Looking good people. When would this end up happening if it did? Obviously the community feels 90% strong about this (which is quite the voting margin). ~ If we are still 500k short, dang… Don't forget to tell your friends to get on and vote for this too!

Haha, it's hilarious how some people really believe that we are 500k short on votes. Of course we are not short on votes. More than that: they will implement the old wildy and free trade 100% sure, they have been working on it and talking about it for months I guarantee you.

There is only 1 reason why they will keep saying "We need x more votes!". It's because people will believe it, and try to get all of their friends to vote. And thus, they are spreading the word that runescape is bringing back free trade and old wildy, probably even to people that haven't played in ages. When you realise this, you know that it is an ingenous marketing strategy, and the best possible way to get a big part of the playerbase that they lost in 2007, back into the game.

good points furyan.

Furyan, good call! <– That makes sense. ~ I did consider that, but I have to keep in mind that I am thinking about Jagex… And for now I assume that this is all a marketing ploy of somesort and the will not bring back the wildy or freetrade because they don't want to anger that 7%.

@Kingarabian So you were the stranger hanging around my english class. Lol jk, Rep+ my bro.

OMG It's over 1m :)

From: tico2
OMG It's over 1m :)

i had a little doubt in my mind that we wouldnt get wildy back because the votes we going so slow, but since it hit 1m, i have no doubt that it will come back

I got news that its coming a couple of days after the Jan.14 deadline if the no votes don't make a come back. I'll confirm when I'm at home… Fking school blocks everything -.-.

Are you a good friend of a mod or something king?

From: marpis
Or the free trade will not have any major effect on their gameplay..


You are wrong. I totally understand the No-voters, they don't want any more bots and scammers into the game, or they just like the pvp as it is. I personally think that the current pvp system is better than the old wilderness.
The only one sucking at maturity here is you. And we know that it's a fact that botting will majorly increase if the update goes through. Atm people only bot with their mains, but after Free Trade they will make armies of bots just to collect money. The number of bots will explode, especially f2p.


It will not help those legit players who want to mine in the mining guild without having to compete with dozens of bots. That's not "jumping into conclusions" at all. This certainly won't help players in all categories as you say. Also, voting Yes or No has nothing to do with maturity. It's just an opinion of how they like to play their game.

I completely agree. As it is, the botting community has a far better programmer:leecher ratio, the majority of the people who use the bots here also create them. Bringing back the old form of things will just cause leechers to come along, and that's not the sort of people I enjoy spending time with in a community. For me, this is a programmers/computer enthusiasts forum.

Yes, I'd love the old wilderness back, it brings back that feeling or fear into the game which was needed, but I have no use for an increased trade limit, and the GE currently is a really great way of buying things, what'll happen when the economy issues arise due to the no maximum or minimum?

I can understand why others would want it back, mainly because it does have some benefit to you/your friends, but I think this will just damage the botting community.

I had a feeling when Jagex made the original announcement that it would be coming back regardless; they wouldn't announce a poll for an update of such magnitude if they had no intention of doing it. I agree with Furyan in that it was simply a marketing move to get back as many of the players they lost in '07 as they could. Those who quit back then (myself included) wouldn't keep up with RS news anymore, so Jagex is relying on word of mouth to spread it.

I think they were always going to bring it back, at least since the new CEO took over a year or two ago…I remember seeing an interview with him saying that he wanted to re-introduce it/make it as similar to how it was as possible. So yeah, genius marketing. :p

From: Zyt3x
Are you a good friend of a mod or something king?

Noo, I just do extensive researching on all the RS sites and know. So far nothing but fakes from desperate people who have know lives…

Do PKers ever come and attack people killing green drags? i was never a member pre-07, so i wouldnt know…

Yes. A lot of PKers do target green dragon killers because it, if I recall recorrectly, rewards more due to the victim being stocked up on dragonhides and dragon bones.

From: TomTuff
Do PKers ever come and attack people killing green drags? i was never a member pre-07, so i wouldnt know…

yes RISK, along with armor and om noms.

So, I still think they should keep the completely p2p worlds. I like that as an idea anyhow.

From: anonymity
yes RISK, along with armor and om noms.

So, I still think they should keep the completely p2p worlds. I like that as an idea anyhow.

I definitely do too. I think PvP worlds are one of the only two good things to happen to RS since '07 (the idea of the GE being the other, except that imo it was poorly implemented). However, I also want back the plain old wilderness. I'm betting they will have exclusive PvP worlds and the rest will be 'old' Wildy worlds for F2P, and Members will also get 'current' (ie safe) Wildy worlds for clue scrolls and such. But we'll have to wait and see.

This poll is just some sort of publicity scam. Jagex would not have spent 3+ years trying to stamp out gold farmers and botters just to give all that work up at the drop of a hat. Obviously they aren't hurting for members or free players, as the polls indicate, there are a lot of people paying attention here.
My thought is that they will say that the 7% who voted "No" are more important than the 90% who voted "Yes". How they will spin that story is anyone's guess.

Next they will invent 4 or 5 worlds that have unrestricted trade and unrestricted wildy and let people who want that play over there, just like the PVP worlds are now. Or maybe they will just flip-flop everything, the 99 main worlds will have unrestricted trade and wildy and there will still be a couple worlds with revenants and such.

It just seems like if they enact free trade and unrestricted wildy, then everything they have said over the past three years has been a lie: gold farmers, credit card fraud, botting, RWT, etc, etc. I can't imagine that was all some sort of complex lie on Jagex's part.

So if we assume it was true, all those problems will return with a vengeance. So what would happen at that point? The game will be ruined I fear, no matter how this all ends up, but then again, everyone has been saying that for years now, and yet we all just keep playing, don't we?

From: jimthesoundman
It just seems like if they enact free trade and unrestricted wildy, then everything they have said over the past three years has been a lie: gold farmers, credit card fraud, botting, RWT, etc, etc. I can't imagine that was all some sort of complex lie on Jagex's part.

Here's their explanation for that:

We&#8217;ve been shutting down bot-makers all around the world and prosecuting people for stealing accounts, and we&#8217;ve evolved our systems to quickly detect cheating;

can't find the quote i'm looking for but it says they have had a 'breakthrough' in bot detection technology and as soon as they had this 'breakthrough' they rushed out the wilderness vote. Frankly I don't want to be one to call bullshit because I have no idea. Time will tell.

From: lordsaturn
Here's their explanation for that:can't find the quote i'm looking for but it says they have had a 'breakthrough' in bot detection technology and as soon as they had this 'breakthrough' they rushed out the wilderness vote. Frankly I don't want to be one to call bullshit because I have no idea. Time will tell.

Well, if they had this big "breakthrough" then how come they can't catch anyone on this board? (Well, unless the people here get greedy and bot 24/7.) They don't seem to be shutting down much with their awesome new breakthrough. Course, maybe they are saving it for a special occasion and then they will come down on SRL users like a ton of bricks. You are correct. Time will tell.

From: jimthesoundman
Well, if they had this big "breakthrough" then how come they can't catch anyone on this board? (Well, unless the people here get greedy and bot 24/7.) They don't seem to be shutting down much with their awesome new breakthrough. Course, maybe they are saving it for a special occasion and then they will come down on SRL users like a ton of bricks. You are correct. Time will tell.

AFAIK, Jagex doesn't really know/care about SRL.

From: Hugolord
AFAIK, Jagex doesn't really know/care about SRL.

Well we are one of the small ones :p

Color bots are the most difficult bots to detect, as they work the same way as humans do, in terms of finding things/searching/etc. There's really nothing they can do without making huge changes that would affect the game itself so much that it's not worth it.

From: Hugolord
AFAIK, Jagex doesn't really know/care about SRL.

rsbot(powerbot) is their main problem atm.

It is interesting how they completely nerfed pin sellers and then they say this. I think they are only suggesting / proposing this idea because they have pretty much already destroyed people's profits from the game except for account selling and such. But they are making that harder and harder with almost every update, it seems. The most recent one was the email one. There is only one way, if I remember, to remove the email. But I may be incorrect on that.

So I don't think they care anymore. They can easily just track gold sellers, too.

If Jagex sides with 7%, they will lose all there credibility as a company. I guarantee you people will quit.

From: kingarabian
If Jagex sides with 7%, they will lose all there credibility as a company. I guarantee you people will quit.

well when they originally got rid of the wilderness/free trade I am fairly certain that at least 50% of people would have quit or become a lot less active. (not a precis evaluation, just stating as everyone I knew quit. Including myself months later)

From: sgt soul
well when they originally got rid of the wilderness/free trade I am fairly certain that at least 50% of people would have quit or become a lot less active. (not a precis evaluation, just stating as everyone I knew quit. Including myself months later)

When I was still playing back in '07, every world through 9 or 10 was full at all hours of the day (and several more had populations in the thousands); if you look at the server list now, even world 2 isn't always full–and during peak hours.

That right there ought to tell you how many people have quit since the '07 update. Jagex realizes this, and this is a move to bring customers back in.

Interesting, Jagex changed it from 1.2m votes to 1.6m votes:

"Following a petition of 1.6M votes in December, we are holding RuneScape's first ever Referendum. Please read the following to make your decision. We want our entire community to decide the future of RuneScape and whether the Wilderness and free trade should return. Every vote counts, so ensure you get everyone who plays/has played RuneScape to register their vote too! Hurry, as the voting ends on the 14th of January.

If they want 1.6m votes by the end of Jan.14th were screwed.

I don't think so. They changed it from "1.2m in less than 24 hours" to "1.6M votes in December"

From: kingarabian
If they want 1.6m votes by the end of Jan.14th were screwed.

I think it would be one of the stupidest decisions to not bring it back now.

Well from sythe:

They were bugging Mod Jon H for some answers about the wilderness and he replied with that.

From: sgt soul
well when they originally got rid of the wilderness/free trade I am fairly certain that at least 50% of people would have quit or become a lot less active. (not a precis evaluation, just stating as everyone I knew quit. Including myself months later)

I did also. I remember buying the pink robes and protesting in world 2.

Time to get my scamming skills back on <3 along with Luring! <3

Time to brush up the auto bots. Here we go.

Up to 91%

When is this update supposed to take place? this saturday or next tuesday?

From: anonymity
Time to brush up the auto bots. Here we go.

I DON'T THINK SO, AUTOBOTS.

From: Failpailirl
When is this update supposed to take place? this saturday or next tuesday?

well the poll closes on 14 jan, so the update will probably happen a week or so after that(if it happens)

From: kongking
well the poll closes on 14 jan, so the update will probably happen a week or so after that(if it happens)

You can't really say when they will update it. Doubt it will even be for january. They don't need to add lots of features tho as they made everything already. I hope we will get a date after the referendum.

From: blab
You can't really say when they will update it. Doubt it will even be for january. They don't need to add lots of features tho as they made everything already. I hope we will get a date after the referendum.

Trade limit should theoretically instant/ASAP, as I seem to remember Mod Andrew saying that the original trade limit implementation was "just a few lines", so surely it's merely removing those lines.

However, the wilderness will require a hell of a lot more work, as they'll have to relocate a considerable amount of quests, and various other content. Mid-year I'm going to guess for the wildy come back. Either that, or they'll slowly update it/have safe zones especially for these quests.

Thoughts?

From: Richard
Trade limit should theoretically instant/ASAP, as I seem to remember Mod Andrew saying that the original trade limit implementation was "just a few lines", so surely it's merely removing those lines.

However, the wilderness will require a hell of a lot more work, as they'll have to relocate a considerable amount of quests, and various other content. Mid-year I'm going to guess for the wildy come back. Either that, or they'll slowly update it/have safe zones especially for these quests.

Thoughts?

Don't forget that they could have been working on this for quite some time..

From: Naike
Don't forget that they could have been working on this for quite some time..

Good point, I highly doubt they were expecting a negative outlook on this…

Well I don't care one bit about wildy, all i want is free trade and ASAP(so i can bot the hell out of rs :D)

ahh can't wait till old wildie, i'm missing it so much…
That free trade isnt bugging me so much but it was great too, but wildy.. mmmm… (love the memories)

From: kongking
Well I don't care one bit about wildy, all i want is free trade and ASAP(so i can bot the hell out of rs :D)

that hurts to hear that :( I swear the freedom to kill whoever you wanted in your level range and loot everything you can off them was what made runescape the game it was! (in 2007) free trade and wildy came hand in hand and worked together :)

On this topic I actually feel that with this luxury back the chances are that even more bots will be active when this update takes place as the activity of runescape will increase dramatically so will supply and demand. or something like that anyway haha.

The reason i don't care about wildy is because i didn't know pretty much anything about rs back then and just lvled up the skills(maybe now ill get the chance)

ahh that is fair enough, I guessed that but I didn't want to say it unless it would have offended you. I would be offended if someone came up to me and accused me of being a noob(etc.) for not wanting(caring for) the wildy back due to not experiencing it. But if it comes back I am sure you will love it ;)

I voted for both, this will eventually get the game fun again!

But i heard they did close wilderness because chinese gold farmers planned to make a autopker army, is this true ?

From: tom99
I voted for both, this will eventually get the game fun again!

But i heard they did close wilderness because chinese gold farmers planned to make a autopker army, is this true ?

I have never heard of this, but hmm its chinese goldfarmers, no one knows their next move!

USFine's Moves:
1. Hire Americans from Powerbot (Specifically Sara, the last time I chatted with them.)
2. Buy Nexus scripts from RSBot.com and do not actually do any real "Labor" on their side. (Proof: I spent about an hour working with one of the "Female" live chat people setting up "Her" bot while she noted everything down on how to set things up. I hate Chinese language default computers. I really do. And you can also blame me for showing USFine.com how to bot at green dragons.)
3. Remove services for smaller games such as Gaia Online.

From: sgt soul
I have never heard of this, but hmm its chinese goldfarmers, no one knows their next move!

The actual idea of them PKing for gold is possible, but they would not bother. They are too lazy now. At least they are good for WoW gold on new servers. WHOOPTEEDOO!

Jagex is desperate. The amount that they have lost is so substantial that they are willing to open up free trade again and the wilderness.

I'm going to miss P2P worlds, as others have mentioned.

EDIT: Gak. PvP F2P.

From: Smartzkid
I'm going to miss P2P worlds, as others have mentioned.

i remember that f2p worlds were overly-full.. 50% chinese bots.

They would be implementing some algorithms and/or detection methods to locate bots. Best to have someone test their new build before we go full out. (of course, i'm expecting the old RS to be back).

I love free trade and Wild. I just hope prices will mellow out. Right now the GE is going insane with merchant clans selling junk really low and selling everything combat related really high. (For me atleast) It's making everything really hard to afford. :( Even with the sufficient amount of botting I do it's just never enough. Or my rotten luck. 1 of the 2.

Just remember though.. What caused this to happen in the first place (the taking away of free trade)? everyone exploiting bots and getting caught. I fear if this does pass people will stop being sneaky about it and this "victory" will be short lived.

I personally voted yes for it. Like numerous others I quit playing rs back in 2007 when jagex took out the old wildy and free trade. While the GE is convenient in all, I do miss merchanting in world 2 fally, transferring items between accounts, and such. I didn't do as much pking, however i always had fun when i did. Granted jagex is probably just doing this to get players back so they make more money and i'm not too sure it'll be the same as the old free trade/wildy, but time will tell.

Looks like there making preparations for the wilderness.

3 hours left till the referendum ends!

Can't wait!!! :)

~Eerik.

Hello fellow nerds


The results are in! Over 1 million people have taken part in the Wilderness and Free Trade vote over the past couple of week which is an amazing turnout! We are extremely pleased with this result, but the question is, will we get to see the old wilderness again? Will free trade be reinstated in the lands of Gielnor?

The answer is no.



Unfortunately we didn't receive enough votes to bring back the old wilderness and free trade. Yes I know 90% voted yes. I know that totals to over 1 million players voting yes. But that is not enough.

We have over 150M accounts in this game. Yes, I know 144 million of them haven't logged in for 3 years. And I know 3 million of them belong to goldfarming companies. But its still not enough.

The wilderness and free trade is not coming back. We are sorry that it has come to this. We were looking forward to it as much as you were. But that's the way it is. No arguments. Anyone that speaks out against us will be banned.

On the plus side we managed to nab ourselves a guinness world record! Highest voted poll for a MMPORG!


Have fun with your EP!

Happy Scaping

Mod MMG

—Some random forumer on the Rs forums.
Edit:Imagine if Jagex announced something similar to this.

Come on, this guy is just a nerd?

~Eerik.

Jagex would have to reinforce their "castle", I think.

From: The Claw
Jagex would have to reinforce their "castle", I think.

Come to think of it, IF they do indeed comeback, will you update your lumby miner? I used to run it 20 hours flawlessly…

I bet that if jagex do something like that, botting will probably increase by 10 fold, because of all the pissed off players and jagex will probably lose more players.

I'd bot just to bot.

"Catch me if you can" :D

1 hour left…

From: kingarabian
Come to think of it, IF they do indeed comeback, will you update your lumby miner? I used to run it 20 hours flawlessly…

Sure :) I'll update my other ones, too.

Just a question(which has probably been answered, but im not sure where its at): Can jagex catch someone just because they're using smart?

No.

~Eerik.

From: kongking
Just a question(which has probably been answered, but im not sure where its at): Can jagex catch someone just because they're using smart?

From: Heavenzeyez1
No.

~Eerik.

I heard that Benland has said that if Jagex wanted to bust SMART, it wouldn't be hard.

http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?14,15,956,62173737,goto,1

Mod Nexus
Jagex Mod


14-Jan-2011 12:07:37
We are in the process of dealing with the Referendum vote and I know it mentions that it will close 12pm GMT currently. However this work is taking slightly longer than expected.

In the mean time if you've not voted you can probably sneak one in!

Thank you for your patience,

Mod Nexus.

How2Delay? They're good at it.

E: But why are they delaying the final results? Are they scared to back-out now or something? Or are they preparing some other dumb vote to "Finalize" it?

I don't know what they're planning to do, but by the time I wake up tomoro morning, I wan't to hear that free trade is back, or else I will {insert supreme evil deed here} and unleash my bot army which I've been saving for after the update muahahahhahahhh :sasmokin:

Bet you they won't bring it back

They will make you pay a fee to play without restrictions.

From: cycrosism
Bet you they won't bring it back

From: RISK
They will make you pay a fee to play without restrictions.

No I don't think they will do that. If they were to do that, they would have to set up special worlds where you'd have to subscribe to enter the world to participate. It all comes down to this. Is Jagex ready to face the full Chinese invasion of bots and gold farmers? Are their mass detection systems ready to handle and quickly disperse these ridiculous Chinese people. And does Jagex have the manpower to ban scammers quickly and efficiently. Seeing how Jagex openly let us vote for this, they hopefully feel ready to combat these enemies once again. In '07 they were not able to efficiently remove these nuisances. So instead of just banning China (which they should of did.. everyone else does it) they implemented all these new and ridiculous rules and regulations.

Come on guys VOTE VOTE VOTE (sarcasm).

Roughly 12 hours until they supposedly "make a decision".

From: mynameisjoe
Roughly 12 hours until they supposedly "make a decision".

they are in GMT, so the 17 is in roughly 2.5 hours

~shut

But isn't that in the middle of the night? So you have to wait another 8-9 hrs until people start to come into the office.

Yeah so EST tomorrow morning is when we will see it. Roughly 9-10AM EST

The're at work now

ive been hitting f5 for like 2 hrs lol hoping to look for the announcement

god damn it I set my apple device to wake me up at 2:30 am in hawaii and still no update omg!

8:16AM EST still nothin

9:42 EST Free stuff pl0x </3

omg! still no update! theyre proly gonna announce at like 24:00 gmt

Doubt that it will be 24:00 ;) I'm thinking they are going to announce in the next 2 hours. They are still a company, don't they work 24/7 ;)

It will come back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: Heavenzeyez1
It will come back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yup :) http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61525

unstick this : d