SRL Archive - S.M.A.R.T.

I read a lot of posts on how signed SMART is more easily detected than unsigned SMART, but if this was the case why are most scripts I find set to signed. How big of a deal really is this. I just want some opinions because ive been running signed and I want to know if I should change before its too late.

I always run as signed, and I have yet to be banned.

It's fine, almost all bans come from unintelligent botting and reports anyways.

Just going off of recent posts that I've seen, signed client is bad. I'm pretty sure any senior autoer here at SRL would say to use unsigned.

From: phantombmx
Just going off of recent posts that I've seen, signed client is bad. I'm pretty sure any senior autoer here at SRL would say to use unsigned.

Actually I'd appreciate it if someone could explain why unsigned would be substantially better.

From: Her0n
Actually I'd appreciate it if someone could explain why unsigned would be substantially better.

AFAIK using signed client jagex can see most anything on your computer, including if you have Simba or any other program of the sort running. Not saying they do that, but it's possible, unless you use unsigned. ;)

However signed doesn't have to be loaded each time you reload runescape.
you can be logged into more than 1 unsigned runescape at the one time, however signed won't let you do that. now thats useful for RSBot who can multi-thread, but not us who can't

From: Bad Boy JH
However signed doesn't have to be loaded each time you reload runescape.
you can be logged into more than 1 unsigned runescape at the one time, however signed won't let you do that. now thats useful for RSBot who can multi-thread, but not us who can't

Ive tried running unsigned before and its pretty slow to load RS, I understand it has to load the client everytime but overall is it worth the wait?

All of my reasons are here:
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59019
No reason to post them in a different place.

HOWEVER, since when does SMART support using the unsigned client? The version in the repos certainly doesn't because there is no SecurityManager to enforce the unsigned rules.

When has SMART ever not supported unsigned? :x I always thought it supported both..

From: moparisthebest
All of my reasons are here:
http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59019
No reason to post them in a different place.

HOWEVER, since when does SMART support using the unsigned client? The version in the repos certainly doesn't because there is no SecurityManager to enforce the unsigned rules.

As far as I know the URL you enter already manages whether you use unsigned or not. Hence the slu.ws page that gives you a different URL?

From: moparisthebest
HOWEVER, since when does SMART support using the unsigned client? The version in the repos certainly doesn't because there is no SecurityManager to enforce the unsigned rules.

This is based on the assumption that unsigned applets require that rules be enforced — they don't. Sure, Jagex could try to do something 'illegal' in the unsigned world, and notice it works, and make appropriate inferences about why that may be, but there is nothing to prevent an unsigned applet from running without a SecurityManager. In fact, iirc, the presence of a security manager is the only difference between Signed/Unsigned/Local programs. The runescape client will behave as if its unsigned if it thinks its unsigned, regardless of the security manager.

From: BenLand100
This is based on the assumption that unsigned applets require that rules be enforced — they don't. Sure, Jagex could try to do something 'illegal' in the unsigned world, and notice it works, and make appropriate inferences about why that may be, but there is nothing to prevent an unsigned applet from running without a SecurityManager. In fact, iirc, the presence of a security manager is the only difference between Signed/Unsigned/Local programs. The runescape client will behave as if its unsigned if it thinks its unsigned, regardless of the security manager.

Granted I haven't tried really recently with the runescape client, but at least as recently as revision 525, even if you run runescape.jar (the unsigned client), it will still write to the hard drive just like the signed client will, the only thing that stops it is a SecurityManager. Is that not the case anymore?

I have written a GPL'd SecurityManager for my MoparScape client that could be 'plugged into' SMART rather easily, if you are interested.

Sure, if you want to contribute. I don't really have time to do heavy modification myself, but if you / someone else wants to throw together a patch (diff form preferably) i'll commit it / upload to the repos.