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Really and truly, I would vote for her.

Some of you are facepalming right now and getting ready to flame me, but heres why.


The world is quite boring. It's the same old people insulting each other back and forth, same old people stealing money under peoples eyes, same banksters bailing themselves out and going in vacations with everyones money…etc. I'm really bored of it. Nothing new is happening. I want some comedy.


What if she is elected. That would be HILARIOUS. Ask yourself how comedic life would get if she had control of our nuclear arsenal. Ask yourself how good of a light show it would be. We're going down the crap-hole anyways, lets end it with a bang. Hey, I'm the last guy who wants to be near a nuclear warhead unless I'm near the insta-vaporization area, but it'd totally be worth it in my opinion. I don't think the world will collapse quite to the point of us being tribes again, but it could… and if it did become 'survivor' style, that would suck. No this has nothing to do with 2012 prophecies (though the image below is for a potential laugh, if you have humor left in you).
Do you really want the world to look like The Road? (great movie BTW)
I sure as hell don't want to get to that point. Lets go out with a bang.

Vote Palin. Your sadistic humor side will NOT regret it.

This is exactly why I absolutely hate politics today. Sorry, but you're cancer to me in this aspect. For one to vote for a candidate based on things specifically and completely unrelated to their political beliefs is completely f**king over everything. Politics are one of the best things about the United States nowadays, and lately they've been turning to s**t because nobody actually considers what they're doing. This isn't just humor. People will then think that she's good (people are idiots), and may vote her in again, and then later an equally bad president. The president is srs bsns. Look at what the war on drugs has caused. World Wars, atomic bombs, and biochemical warfare has arose because of certain presidents.

This is not something to f**k around with.

IMO is the honk-for-jesus countries that have no idea what they are voting for. I remember watching a video of some woman going "I'm going to vote for person X", and the interviewer asked the woman "What if your favorite policy about person X" and the woman went "….err….uuuh".
Those are the ones that will screw us over.


The banks own politics and the president anyways.


This is politics:

Not much point in democracy when ignorance is celebrated I guess

From: The Claw
Not much point in democracy when ignorance is celebrated I guess

Democracy = illusion.
Ideally in a society without people bent on filling their pockets at the expense of others, it'd be cool. Hell, communism might work. Though, we're talking planet Earth here. Bringing planet Earth into any uncertainty equation throws out all guesses.



Except taxes and death of course. Oh and maybe life. ;)

EDIT: Maybe I should say humans instead of planet earth. We're truly the *best* species. If there are Aliens out there, we're definitely a prime time TV show.

From: cstrike
Democracy = illusion.

That's because we have a republic, not a democracy.

From: TomTuff
That's because we have a republic, not a democracy.

I'm not American so that I don't know ;) (assuming by 'we')

On a random topic: I don't even know what my own country is (or care). I don't vote… though if I was American I'd vote Ron Paul. He speaks with reason and logic. Of course I don't know all his platform stuff, but hey, he'll audit the fed.


Though still I'd like to see the end of the world. Of course after I do some stuff first.

From: cstrike
On a random topic: I don't even know what my own country is (or care). I don't vote… though if I was American I'd vote Ron Paul. He speaks with reason and logic. Of course I don't know all his platform stuff, but hey, he'll audit the fed.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha……"he'll audit the fed"….bull shit. Just like Obama wanted "Change". Stuff like that will never happen. They just say those things to pull in the idiots(no offense, I'm not saying your an idiot). There are no good candidates in the US, its just a matter of choosing the one that will do the least damage.

From: mormonman
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha……"he'll audit the fed"….bull shit. Just like Obama wanted "Change". Stuff like that will never happen. They just say those things to pull in the idiots(no offense, I'm not saying your an idiot). There are no good candidates in the US, its just a matter of choosing the one that will do the least damage.

Now that I think of it, I never thought of that :p


I don't blame you for calling me that (I know you said that you didn't! ;)), for now I do think I'm one since… technically you are right and I agree 100% since I didn't think about him saying that for a vote either. ;) Plus the Obama stuff about changed seems to have nuked his rating as well :D
Will be interesting to see how the US goes with the next election.

From: cstrike
Now that I think of it, I never thought of that :p


I don't blame you for calling me that (I know you said that you didn't! ;)), for now I do think I'm one since… technically you are right and I agree 100% since I didn't think about him saying that for a vote either. ;) Plus the Obama stuff about changed seems to have nuked his rating as well :D
Will be interesting to see how the US goes with the next election.

It will go republican unless they can't find an almost decent candidate.

From: mormonman
It will go republican unless they can't find an almost decent candidate.

lol i would say that even if it is not an almost decent canidate, i think it will still be republican

I have always hated Obama from day one.

I have been waiting for the next election since day 1 when he was elected. I knew it was going to be a total sh*t hole.

But i guess its only because im a Republican and i don't believe in sharing the "wealth"

All of these celebrities running for president is funny to me. No one does shit, no one changes nothing. But in reality Obama's administration will be 1000000000x better than palin's will ever be. I mean the reason why McCain lost was because of her. Republicans said it themselves.

I dont think it really matters all that much. Republicans are making it really difficult for Democrats to do anything very democraty, so Obama tries to go middle, and everyone hates him now. It will be the exact same thing with next election's republican. Obama hasn't really been that bad of a president, because he hasn't really done all that much. I don't think that palin would really be THAT bad because nobody would let her do any of the crazy shit that she wants (at least i very much hope so). The next president wont be decided on their polititcs, it will be decided on who is more a more attractive candidate (in terms of charisma, speaking, and such).

From: Dan Cardin
I dont think it really matters all that much. Republicans are making it really difficult for Democrats to do anything very democraty, so Obama tries to go middle, and everyone hates him now. It will be the exact same thing with next election's republican. .

this.

You'd all be surprised what IS being done in the white house, however, lack of bipartisanship is screwing everybody over. It's the republican's AND the democrat's fault

As for sharing the wealth, Squancy, if you've ever visited cities like Camden or Newark, you'll know how ridiculous the poverty gap is. You have no idea how angry it makes me that some people have so much when pretty much the rest of the world has so god damn little.

I don't think Democracy is an illusion. You vote for something that lies closest to your ideals, and a little bit of power is given to them. That the rest of the world is ignorant / doesn't agree with you is just part of Democracy. If you want be in control then you'll need communism which in most cases (afaik, all) leads to a less free country / world.

I'm not saying that I particularly like Democracy, but I can see some of the advantages. It's not an illusion anyway. You could call freedom an illusion. But then again, that completely depends on how rational you are in your definition of free in the current world. For example, I don't believe in the freedom to kill whoever you dislike. But you can see this as a freedom. I also don't believe in the freedom that hands out guns to every idiot on the planet; but that happens in some countries.

i wasn't saying nothing was getting done, but none of the large "Change" was promised is getting done. Just like how none of palin's trying to get rid of taxes and being annoying would actually be accomplished.

democracy is silly. It doesn't really work.

Better her than Obama

You know Abraham Lincoln and Franklin D. Roosevelt were pretty good republicans. So was Reagan. But when i see there views now days it makes me sick. Today I read on CNN "Republicans tell Feds to quit on view to create jobs"….

From: kingarabian
You know Abraham Lincoln and Franklin D. Roosevelt were pretty good republicans. So was Reagan. But when i see there views now days it makes me sick. Today I read on CNN "Republicans tell Feds to quit on view to create jobs"….

Lol wait, you sort of snuck Reagan in there. Reaganomics screwed us all over

Also, Lincoln was part of the Republican party that became what are today known as the Democrats, so he doesn't count.

Yeah, I don't blame republicans for our economic woes, I blame Reagan. He sucked pretty bad

From: blulightning
Lol wait, you sort of snuck Reagan in there. Reaganomics screwed us all over

Also, Lincoln was part of the Republican party that became what are today known as the Democrats, so he doesn't count.

Yeah, I don't blame republicans for our economic woes, I blame Reagan. He sucked pretty bad

+1!

From: blulightning
Lol wait, you sort of snuck Reagan in there. Reaganomics screwed us all over

Also, Lincoln was part of the Republican party that became what are today known as the Democrats, so he doesn't count.

Yeah, I don't blame republicans for our economic woes, I blame Reagan. He sucked pretty bad

:duh: Okay sorry you showed me up there! +1 But I still love Roosevelt!

Edit: Shoulda done research.

"The plan of Reaganomics was not fully realized. Certainly corporate taxes were cut significantly, and personal income taxes in certain tax brackets were cut as well. The wealthiest individuals in the country went from paying about 70% in taxes to approximately 28% in taxes.

However tax rates for people in lower income taxes rose, suggesting that the little guy and poorer people were not benefiting from Reaganomics. With fewer government programs, fewer resources were available to the poor. While some government spending was reduced, deficit spending was significantly increased, in part to help rescue the country from the high oil prices of the late 1970s and recession that existed in the country for at least the first two years of Reagan’s presidency. US debt during Reagan’s presidency increased from about 700 billion to over 3 trillion US Dollars (USD), as various economic crises hit the country, and also as a means of compensation for much lower tax on high income bracket taxpayers."

What?! You love Roosevelt? hmm…I hate him. Social Security is the worst idea ever.

But everyone loves Teddy Roosevelt right!?

From: Dan Cardin
But everyone loves Teddy Roosevelt right!?

Of course! the teddy bear was named after him. who wouldnt. :norris:

From: Dan Cardin
But everyone loves Teddy Roosevelt right!?

Not Teddy, FDR. They both suck.

you both suck. Teddy is the most awesome one! Bull moose man, bull moose! He got shot and still continued his speech! So awesome.

Yea FDR really screwed America over…we are still being screwed by some of his BS.

I'm an avid supporter of Ron Paul. Restoring state powers and limiting federal powers might be the only thing that could possibly get us out of this mess unless we settle for socialism.

From: Smartzkid
Better her than Obama

I don't know how you can say that

From: doublex8
Yea FDR really screwed America over…we are still being screwed by some of his BS.

I'm an avid supporter of Ron Paul. Restoring state powers and limiting federal powers might be the only thing that could possibly get us out of this mess unless we settle for socialism.

*jaw drop*

seriously??

also, "settle for socialism?"
I doubt you know what Socialism even means. You probably just got some vague idea that its bad from watching fox news.

From: Blumblebee
I don't know how you can say that

Obama = QE1, QE2, Health Bill

From: Smartzkid
Obama = QE1, QE2, Health Bill

Pretty much all ruined because the republicans wouldn't pass it until x y and z were all "fixed".

From: MylesMadness
Pretty much all ruined because the republicans wouldn't pass it until x y and z were all "fixed".

It got ruled unconstitutional anyways.(in virginia)

i heard it might not even get going because republicans basically have the house and will try to not allow the allocation of funds to it.

From: blulightning
*jaw drop*

seriously??

also, "settle for socialism?"
I doubt you know what Socialism even means. You probably just got some vague idea that its bad from watching fox news.

Got a good laugh from that. I don't even watch fox news.

They should not force anyone to buy health insurance I mean what the Fuck. Where is the freedom?

A Democracy of Hypocrisy
The Divided states of Embarrassment.
-Eminem

A bit hypocritical, imo, king. As I'm sure you wouldn't be fine with all drugs being completely legal, gay marriage, abortion, etc. etc. being fine as well, although all of those are related to freedom of choice.

From: i luffs yeww
A bit hypocritical, imo, king. As I'm sure you wouldn't be fine with all drugs being completely legal, gay marriage, abortion, etc. etc. being fine as well, although all of those are related to freedom of choice.

I have no problem with that.

From: kingarabian
They should not force anyone to buy health insurance I mean what the Fuck. Where is the freedom?

A Democracy of Hypocrisy
The Divided states of Embarrassment.
-Eminem

No one is forcing anyone to buy health insurance, it is just a really good idea to have health insurance these days. If you are talking about the free government insurance, then you also still have a choice as they didn't abolish private insurance. But since your taxes are going to the free government insurance then I suppose you are paying for insurance, even if you yourself don't have any.

From: doublex8
No one is forcing anyone to buy health insurance, it is just a really good idea to have health insurance these days.

The health care bill carries a fine for anyone without health insurance.

sigh..

There's no use arguing politics anymore. Everyone thinks that THEY have the right answer, and everyone else is wrong. I'm guilty of it too.

[/niceness]

Seriously, you guys are idiots. How can you refuse to help people of lower socio-economic standings than yourselves? Ugh, peoples' greed pisses me off. You probably think you're all set because you make some dinky $100 donation once a year, so you've done your part. Fuck no, that's not how the world works.

Go walk through a bad neighborhood, and tell me that it's those peoples' own fault they're there. NO! It's a vicious cycle. People are constantly being pushed down because no one has the balls to say, "Okay, I'll give you some of what I've got, because I have more than I need"

It's definitely one thing to argue and one thing to act, or at least to attempt to persuade others to what you think is right, although the other person thinks they're right, so it really generally doesn't do much. But if you want things to change, do shit.

exactly. Fine, don't support healthcare legislature that would get healthcare to hundreds of thousands of people who need it.
But get your ass our to a soup kitchen once a week, or something

From: kingarabian
They should not force anyone to buy health insurance I mean what the Fuck. Where is the freedom?

I'm not really sure how this relates to freedom. The government has a certain responsibility to look over the population. Not having health insurance is just plain, plain stupid. Forcing everyone to have it doesn't look bad to me. There a lot of things you have to do for the government or else you'll get a fine. Why not say those things restrict your freedom? If I were you, I'd worry about serious freedoms. The freedom to believe whatever you want; the freedom to say whatever you want (doesn't always work with the previous statement).

On topic: Palin just looks like an extreme stupid woman to me. I can't imagine why anyone would want to vote for her. I don't really follow politics but if she is what the republicans are ``bringing'' then I very much hope Obama will win the elections again. It's quite ironic though how Palin does represent republicans in a lot of ways. (Negatives ones, in my eyes)

From: mormonman
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha……"he'll audit the fed"….bull shit. Just like Obama wanted "Change". Stuff like that will never happen. They just say those things to pull in the idiots(no offense, I'm not saying your an idiot). There are no good candidates in the US, its just a matter of choosing the one that will do the least damage.

I really agree, I always find myself as a pessimist in things that I take seriously for some reason. I never understand why the U.S. is unable to pull itself together. I feel that we're one of the most ignorant countries in the world who waste money on foolish things such as war. I also don't understand why our country is so greedy.

Everyone having healthcare = win. Charity & helping people rise up from the bottom = win.

2000 page healthcare bill = fail. Forcing the middle class to support the lower class while letting the upper class by = fail. Not giving students enough money to get through school = fail.

From: Heavenguard
I really agree, I always find myself as a pessimist in things that I take seriously for some reason. I never understand why the U.S. is unable to pull itself together. I feel that we're one of the most ignorant countries in the world who waste money on foolish things such as war. I also don't understand why our country is so greedy.

You should realise that the people who left Europe to later form the U.S. were mainly optimists or people who had seen just about enough of Europe. Most likely this indicates a different mindset. That mindset never really left, I suppose. Personally I think Americans generally are optimistic. Also, I think the system the U.S. uses for voting is rather undemocratic. There are very few parties and "winner gets all". When you get more parties, they'll have to collaborate, discuss certain issues with each other, compensate. And as a person you have more freedom in choosing your favourite party. (If there are 10 different parties, there's a big chance one of them fits your ideals more than say if there are only two parties)

From: Wizzup?
You should realise that the people who left Europe to later form the U.S. were mainly optimists or people who had seen just about enough of Europe. Most likely this indicates a different mindset. That mindset never really left, I suppose. Personally I think Americans generally are optimistic. Also, I think the system the U.S. uses for voting is rather undemocratic. There are very few parties and "winner gets all". When you get more parties, they'll have to collaborate, discuss certain issues with each other, compensate. And as a person you have more freedom in choosing your favourite party. (If there are 10 different parties, there's a big chance one of them fits your ideals more than say if there are only two parties)

winner gets all? I don't understand what you mean by this. Winner DOESNT get all in the us. Sure, Obama won the presidency, but stuff ends up getting blocked in Congress….

Otherwise, 100% agree

From: Wizzup?
You should realise that the people who left Europe to later form the U.S. were mainly optimists or people who had seen just about enough of Europe. Most likely this indicates a different mindset. That mindset never really left, I suppose. Personally I think Americans generally are optimistic. Also, I think the system the U.S. uses for voting is rather undemocratic. There are very few parties and "winner gets all". When you get more parties, they'll have to collaborate, discuss certain issues with each other, compensate. And as a person you have more freedom in choosing your favourite party. (If there are 10 different parties, there's a big chance one of them fits your ideals more than say if there are only two parties)

Sorry, I wasn't talking about the voting system and parties lol. I was more talking about the actions and such that our country does.

From: blulightning
winner gets all? I don't understand what you mean by this. Winner DOESNT get all in the us. Sure, Obama won the presidency, but stuff ends up getting blocked in Congress….

Otherwise, 100% agree

That's where it goes wrong - too. I'll quickly describe the system we use in the Netherlands. There are about 20 parties, ~7 major ones. You vote for a specific party. None of these parties will ever get >50% votes. (Or… well, this hardly ever occurs) So, to get a 50% or more parties will have to collaborate. (There are 150 ``seats'' you need at least 76 ones.)

Usually, the party that got the most votes will try to create/form a goverment - with the help of multiple other parties. They agree on a specific set of decisions - within some limit. The government will then for four years perform it's tasks. It occasionally happens that a party drops out of the government; and then the government falls. (They will no longer have >50%)
Every decision is "polled" amongst these 150 seats. In some cases an idea can get a lot of votes; sometimes even a party in the government can decide to vote against it. (Remember that the opposition maintain all the other seats, although the opposition as a whole usually doesn't agree)

It's a bit more complex than this and there is another "room" with "seats" that decide on ideas that "passed" the room with 150 seats.
So I really made a very simplistic (and probably a bit flawed) description of our system. I really prefer it to the system used in the U.S. though. Personally I think it is a lot more democratic. There's still room for improvement though I can imagine. I'd like to vote in favour of or against specific ideas. So really "creating" my own party out of my own ideas/opinion.

From: Heavenguard
Sorry, I wasn't talking about the voting system and parties lol. I was more talking about the actions and such that our country does.

Well aren't the action generally decided upon by the government? ;)

This was a really good laugh.
Thanks. ^^

End government. Vote laws directly via the internet.
:)

From: Cigue
End government. Vote laws directly via the internet.
:)

Someone has got to make and enforce the laws…I.E. a government