SRL Archive - NOTA

Oops, I guess....


HyperSecret

2010-11-01 18:37:14


dmardian@fccsci:/home$ sudo cd dcooper

We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System
Administrator. It usually boils down to these three things:

#1) Respect the privacy of others.
#2) Think before you type.
#3) With great power comes great responsibility.

[sudo] password for dmardian:
dmardian is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.


So I found some other directories on my schools networks and I thought I would see if a simple 'sudo' would get me into these directories. I guess the school's network didn't like this too much.

We will see what this 'incident' is and if I get in trouble. Hopefully nothing comes over it :rolleyes:

Wizzup?

2010-11-01 18:52:35

It always says that. Don't worry. ;) Also, what kernel do they run? uname -a

Failpailirl

2010-11-01 18:56:57

Im suprised that they dont use windows at your school, unless this is on windows then thats akward.

i actually tried to get my school to switch to ubuntu and the pros definatly outweighed the cons, and they denied it. :(

HyperSecret

2010-11-01 19:01:23

From: Wizzup?
It always says that. Don't worry. ;) Also, what kernel do they run? uname -a


Good :).

Linux fccsci.fullcoll.edu 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Thu Aug 19 03:44:10 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux

Is what I get with that command.

From: Failpailirl
Im suprised that they dont use windows at your school, unless this is on windows then thats akward.

i actually tried to get my school to switch to ubuntu and the pros definatly outweighed the cons, and they denied it. :(


It actually isn't the whole school, I am on a windows machine. It's just the server that we use for computer programming classes, we connect to the server via putty. The server is a UNIX system.

Wizzup?

2010-11-02 11:12:42

From: HyperSecret
Good :).

Linux fccsci.fullcoll.edu 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Thu Aug 19 03:44:10 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux

Is what I get with that command.



It actually isn't the whole school. It's just the server that we use for computer programming classes.


Some schools here (mainly the gymnasium ones) use Linux exclusively.

MylesMadness

2010-11-02 16:16:27

From: Failpailirl
Im suprised that they dont use windows at your school, unless this is on windows then thats akward.

i actually tried to get my school to switch to ubuntu and the pros definatly outweighed the cons, and they denied it. :(
The con of retraining everyone is by far the largest con, unless your school is full of computer pros.

Failpailirl

2010-11-02 16:35:55

From: MylesMadness
The con of retraining everyone is by far the largest con, unless your school is full of computer pros.


but it is honestly, not that hard simply requires a brain and maybe a 30 minute- an hour tutorial on it max.

MylesMadness

2010-11-02 16:37:58

I've seen people who learned how to use a computer based on the location of buttons, not functions or anything else. It would take ages for those people to learn Ubuntu.

Failpailirl

2010-11-03 08:00:18

But its free, faster than windows (IMO) and seriously, all the buttons are moved to the top instead of the bottom tbh. thats all it is. and they would have to do is make a CD than install whatever they want the students to have on it. and install it to all of the school computers (i even offered to help with that, they still rejected it.)

i luffs yeww

2010-11-03 10:37:10

Some things definitely aren't usable on Ubu like they are on Windows. CAD, for example.

Failpailirl

2010-11-04 07:42:23

From: i luffs yeww
Some things definitely aren't usable on Ubu like they are on Windows. CAD, for example.


CAD? never heard of it tbh :x. could you please explain?

Troll

2010-11-04 11:27:11

CAD? as in Computer-aided design ? like i do at school? If so its http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-aided_design

blulightning

2010-11-04 11:40:25

CADs are used in a lot of architecture/engineering classes. An example is Autodesk. They're super powerful programs with huge rendering capabilities.

i luffs yeww

2010-11-04 23:48:25

^ This. Sorry, I was in a hurry.

There were a few more points that I had but I can't remember. Ubuntu definitely isn't the best for some things, and it's a bit silly to say otherwise. Of course it is better in some ways to Windows, but everything has its pros and cons.

Nava2

2010-11-05 01:47:34

From: i luffs yeww
^ This. Sorry, I was in a hurry.

There were a few more points that I had but I can't remember. Ubuntu definitely isn't the best for some things, and it's a bit silly to say otherwise. Of course it is better in some ways to Windows, but everything has its pros and cons.


Incorrect about the engineering programs!

http://www.ptc.com/products/creo-elements-pro/

These are products readily available for Linux/Windows and are just as good, if not better than Autodesk. They are not the most common practice ones, but they are getting more and more popular. They are proprietary, don't make me go get the FOSS ones. ;)

There are very few reasons to not use Linux in schools, and many reason why schools should. There are even distributions setup to look and behave like Windows, whats stopping people?

For education, only thing I can think of is Photoshop and the Adobe Suite. There are open source versions of these, which are quickly improving.

i luffs yeww

2010-11-05 02:01:39

Huh. Well then could you show me some alternatives to Photoshop/Suite? :)

Another thing is the teachers didn't learn using Ubuntu or the Linux alternatives of the programs, which is important, usually. Although most computer teachers I've had (only had a few) have read things straight from a book to teach the class.. >_>

JuKKa

2010-11-05 05:51:05

From: i luffs yeww

Another thing is the teachers didn't learn using Ubuntu or the Linux alternatives of the programs, which is important, usually. Although most computer teachers I've had (only had a few) have read things straight from a book to teach the class.. >_>

I have actually taken over the teaching from the teacher, I did it better then him.

i luffs yeww

2010-11-05 06:00:54

I could teach many if not all of the computer classes at my school. :/ It's sad, really; school doesn't challenge anyone very much anymore.

Failpailirl

2010-11-05 07:44:12

From: i luffs yeww
I could teach many if not all of the computer classes at my school. :/ It's sad, really; school doesn't challenge anyone very much anymore.


I agree. The majority of people at my school are extremely computer illiterate.

My Computer Applications teacher said that the largest flash drive you can have is 8GB, and also said that Norton is the best anti-virus software. made me lol