SRL Archive - Bot Information and Spottings

What is the "Perfect" bot in your eyes?


Cstrike

2010-10-17 23:12:17

God comes down and says "Thy son (or daughter), I grant you a perfect bot. Just you must tell me everything you think it must have".


Perfect chat?
Perfect random solving?
Being able to do whatever task you choose flawlessly?
Perfect walking to anywhere?
Being able to do anything?



I want to say "unbannable", and I guess it would be fair. Of course I don't know how it would be possible to code a real human responder but hey :bart:, this is the thread where anything goes.

What do you think makes a bot perfect?

In addition if this chat gets going, it will bring up some great ideas that possibly people can implement in their code. All good inventions are ideas first.

mrpickle

2010-10-18 00:12:08

a robot with 20 arms able to use 10 computers at the same time acting like 10 different people. robot is programmed with the world's best hacker's knowledge and moral thinking.
Robot able to surf the web as anything, anywhere, doing whatever I want it to do, however long, powered by Villavu :).

But realistically, if perfect chat can be done, all the logrithmetics of the human mind is solved. This bot would solve more than just our botting problems :D.

Becks

2010-10-18 00:32:54

Being able to do whatever task you choose flawlessly. A bot that i could trust transferring wealth from one account to another.

TRiLeZ

2010-10-18 00:50:58

Being able to interact with people, and it's surroundings, flawlessly, while acting like a human.

Bonfield

2010-10-18 01:19:05

Perfectius' autofighter with a flawless chat system :)

Feroc1ty

2010-10-18 02:06:08

There's many websites where you can talk to A.I., it's quite common these days…

But a perfect responder would not only have to know what to say, but when to say it as well.

Daniel

2010-10-18 05:29:49

Guys, I think he's talking about what makes the "perfect" RuneScape bot? lol.

Well, that's what I inferred from his post anyway…

Capricorn

2010-10-18 05:39:33

A bot that knows when to poop and pee and how long to leave for. PERFECT ANTI BAN.

Bonfield

2010-10-18 05:47:55

I think if we can create a flawless autoresponder then this bot would be perfect, colour finding is good, and with proper logic should be 'unbannable' plus with reflection making a comback anything is possible, all that is missing is an autoresponder, but if that is done wrong it also has a negative effect and could attract bans

MasterKill

2010-10-18 13:44:00

Pefect soul wars bot written in simba with reflection. Wish actually plays the game like it should :)

WT-Fakawi

2010-10-18 15:27:28

Best bot would undoubtedly be the bot that has been around the longest.
Best bot would also be the one that keeps your players alive longest.
Best bot would be the bot that is human.

We all recognize bots. We all report bots. It's useless and revolting to walk around like a zombie in runescape hammering on rocks or trees.

In accordence with that, best things I ever made:

Autoresponding, Remote Control, chat through remote master, chatlogging and bot2bot private convos.
A clever autoresponder kept my players going in rough times. After all: A respone a day keeps the banhammer away!

I still have wonderful "convo's" sometimes really getting very offensive

tom99

2010-10-18 17:19:55

If it could learn by it self and had human intelligence. ( yes im fully aware of that its impossible)

Camaro'

2010-10-18 17:41:05

RS Bot connected wireless to my brain so when ever it gets stuck, I tell it what to do just by pure thoughts.

Dervish

2010-10-19 15:06:51

From: Feroc1ty
There's many websites where you can talk to A.I., it's quite common these days…

But a perfect responder would not only have to know what to say, but when to say it as well.


AI != Auto Responding…

Cazax

2010-10-19 16:29:19

A bot that only the creator knows it isn't human.

Troll

2010-10-19 16:31:01

A bot that makes millions a hour in F2P

anonymity

2010-10-19 16:40:26

In my eyes, the 'perfect bot' would be something to setup let run as the character it creates:
- starts up
- "random" chooses a profession
- continues to do things applicable to that profession
-> mine at different places
-> fight at different places
-> fish/cook at different places
-> et cetera
- adds people to the friends list
- analytically interacts (AI) with a decent repertoire and vocab.
- takes breaks some scheduled and some random. what I am working on now

Yea, those are the basics for best bot in running. IMO

Sir R. M8gic1an

2010-10-19 17:00:37

In my eyes the best bot would be the one that lives a life. Some people get married in runescape. If jagex saw a bot doing that, would they ever think it was a bot?

A bot is not human, therefore the more human interaction a bot has, the less it'll be thought of as a bot.

~RM

Camaro'

2010-10-19 18:20:35

From: Sir R. Magician
In my eyes the best bot would be the one that lives a life. Some people get married in runescape. If jagex saw a bot doing that, would they ever think it was a bot?

A bot is not human, therefore the more human interaction a bot has, the less it'll be thought of as a bot.

~RM


No kidding? :)

Sir R. M8gic1an

2010-10-19 18:52:13

[QUOTE=Camaro';744614]No kidding? :)[/QUOTE]

No kidding indeed. As obvious as it sounds, we seem to forget that when adding features to a script…

eg: A miner that detects the rock is gone but that it wasn't you taking it (it was stolen) could say 'That's my rock!'.

Did you ever think about this obvious possibility?

~RM

Feroc1ty

2010-10-19 19:13:17

From: Dervish
AI != Auto Responding…


Are you retarded? Do you even know what A.I. stands for, if not why the hell even quote me? You just made yourself look like a clueless dipshit.

TRiLeZ

2010-10-19 19:29:00

From: Feroc1ty
Are you retarded? Do you even know what A.I. stands for, if not why the hell even quote me? You just made yourself look like a clueless dipshit.


Try to not insult other members.

AI = Artificial Intelligence.

With the post that he quoted, you said there are many sites where you can talk to AI. Ummm… how can you talk to artificial intelligence?

Feroc1ty

2010-10-19 21:35:32

From: TRiLeZ
Try to not insult other members.

AI = Artificial Intelligence.

With the post that he quoted, you said there are many sites where you can talk to AI. Ummm… how can you talk to artificial intelligence?


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=chat+with+A.I.

TRiLeZ

2010-10-19 22:08:03

From: Feroc1ty
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=chat+with+A.I.


You chat with the bot, not with it's intelligence. :p

Overtime

2010-10-19 22:13:52

that bot is not intelligent at all.

Gu3st...

2010-10-20 03:05:05

From: Feroc1ty
Are you retarded? Do you even know what A.I. stands for, if not why the hell even quote me? You just made yourself look like a clueless dipshit.
I seriously dislike your attitude..

WT-Fakawi

2010-10-20 03:38:38

From: Feroc1ty
Are you retarded? Do you even know what A.I. stands for, if not why the hell even quote me? You just made yourself look like a clueless dipshit.


Hey NeonKnight77, want to be banned on the spot?

Overtime

2010-10-20 04:04:32

From: WT-Fakawi
Hey NeonKnight77, want to be banned on the spot?


Intresting read Fakawi. Sorry to hear that happened long time ago, but man what a jerk.

Can't believe you still give him access to the forums?

Failpailirl

2010-10-20 07:45:31

From: WT-Fakawi
Hey NeonKnight77, want to be banned on the spot?


Wow, just read the whole thing, thats sad on his part tbh. :mad:

Cstrike

2010-10-20 11:06:05

From: Squancy
Intresting read Fakawi. Sorry to hear that happened long time ago, but man what a jerk.

Can't believe you still give him access to the forums?


Jesus H Walford Christ, this!
Most websites sue over less.

Sir R. M8gic1an

2010-10-20 12:30:00

Can we get back to topic? ;)

~RM

Troll

2010-10-20 12:56:16

A bot which is so good it has a attitude and a attitude that is good :)

Cstrike

2010-10-20 14:01:27

A bot for me would be able to accidentally click the wrong spot and compensate for it properly with minimal to no error

Troll

2010-10-20 14:04:46

A bot that can get bored of doing something and do something else for just muck around/ do random stuff before starting again

mat_de_b

2010-10-20 14:16:34

Something Like MSI but part way through, it would break away, go bank everything and go do something else like what troll man said.

On top of this the bot would make mistakes and correct them.

the bot would respond with miniature typing mistakes -missed letters, moved letters (mised lettrs - Mvoed letetrs)

A bot that can be run 24/7 using 1 character running an average humans load (starts at 7 works till 10) That will vary by an hour or two each way.

A bot that can locate other players nearby, work out what they are saying, and decipher it to work out if they are talking about you… for example ' haha that guys a level 3 and he hasn't said anything in like 6 years botter much' you then reply 'sorry doing an essay, i am here dw ;)'

Bad Boy JH

2010-10-25 10:31:54

From: tom99
If it could learn by it self and had human intelligence. ( yes im fully aware of that its impossible)


This is slightly possible, what about a bot that goes like a markov chain, studying all human's interactions with the game. this bot is then to interact with the game, acting like a human flawlessly. This is possible, but would require decades of manpower.

My bot would have to 'sleep', 'eat' and pretend to perform other human everyday activities, as if living in the real world. It would have to then have to change tasks, and basically act like a human. However it wouldn't do what the human controller would want it to, cause it basically would have independant thought

Dan Cardin

2010-10-25 18:56:46

Making an intelligent bot would imo, be having a real person behind the bot. I dunno where I said it, but making an auto responder that relays the last thing said to you to an IRC channel, then the people inside being able to respond to what is said.

I image it would have to be pretty involved in terms of knowing when you're being talked to without them saying your name. It probably wouldn't be necessary to talk without them addressing you unless the responder determines that nothing else has been said in a while. It would also need people willing to not be stupid and say things that would be suspicious. After those two problems, it would probably be pretty easy. Implement variables like $person_that_addressed_me_name, $wc_level and stuff like that, and ba-boom. Easy, intelligent response without even needing to have the game open or know anything about what your character is doing.

EDIT: actually, that type of notion could work for anything. Webpage that displays a character's screen when in an unsolvable random then someone viewing the page can click on the image, and once the bot determines that it's still stuck, it will show another screen. Slow? maybe. But easier way out of coding a solution? very much so. Once again, only requires people that are actually willing to help.