SRL Archive - Devs' Corner

Limit the reflection include down to basics


Naike

2010-10-02 10:26:42

Limit the reflection include down to basics until we have the knowledge again to maintain it in a larger scale?

Basics
-Walking
-NPC's/Player
-TileTo**/**ToTile

Then add these stuff as we feel ready
-Gametabs
-Inventory
-GroundItems
-Interfaces
-Equipment
-Objects

We should ditch some functions, such as the whole login system..

In other words, I think we should look to be a add-on for SRL, and not a separate include.

Reasons for this is that it needs a re-write, and it needs it rather badly.
I'm getting people to support us hook-wise, and working on a RsBot stealer myself.. just wondering who I got behind me, and who's willing to support this change?

Nava2

2010-10-02 14:03:34

There's a lot of the low level things which do not need a rewrite. They have been rewritten over 3 times now, by myself included. I am not against it completely, but I do not really like you attitude with this whole thing.

Also, the include is already separated into ``core'' sections. Before you go modifying it all, you should look at whats there. Not to mention asking people. There are some poorly coded parts, and also some excessive parts. The point of it was to be a fork essentially of SRL, still requiring it to be used. Not sure where that got lost…

Naike

2010-10-02 18:25:03

From: Nava2
There's a lot of the low level things which do not need a rewrite. They have been rewritten over 3 times now, by myself included. I am not against it completely, but I do not really like you attitude with this whole thing.

Also, the include is already separated into ``core'' sections. Before you go modifying it all, you should look at whats there. Not to mention asking people. There are some poorly coded parts, and also some excessive parts. The point of it was to be a fork essentially of SRL, still requiring it to be used. Not sure where that got lost…


I'm not going to change it all around, I'm not stupid.
But having all these things and nobody to maintain them?

Simple and easy, having a include which is an add-on for SRL(duh, it was the thought from the beginning?). Also, as it seems the reflection include is only cared for when somebody brings it up in a thread?, I'm willïng to work on it, with people which have the knowledge it takes..?

Why stop me and make so many negative points? (not specially focused at you Nava, towards everyone complaining I'm trying to change it).

If not, I'm afraid I'll start a new include, as it seems you guys won't do the work.. (still Nava, not focused at you, I know that you're busy).

I'll of course work from guidelines which anyone is willing to help me set..
Just a couple is
  • Maintain the core functions(might skip r_UpText, as it's already in srl?, remember add-on)
  • Make sure old scripts will still compile, not switch around types and such
  • Not switch around func/proc names
  • Fix up hooks.scar so it's fucking readable -.-

Nava2

2010-10-03 12:09:03

From: Naike
I'm not going to change it all around, I'm not stupid.
But having all these things and nobody to maintain them?

Simple and easy, having a include which is an add-on for SRL(duh, it was the thought from the beginning?). Also, as it seems the reflection include is only cared for when somebody brings it up in a thread?, I'm willïng to work on it, with people which have the knowledge it takes..?

Why stop me and make so many negative points? (not specially focused at you Nava, towards everyone complaining I'm trying to change it).

If not, I'm afraid I'll start a new include, as it seems you guys won't do the work.. (still Nava, not focused at you, I know that you're busy).

I'll of course work from guidelines which anyone is willing to help me set..
Just a couple is
  • Maintain the core functions(might skip r_UpText, as it's already in srl?, remember add-on)
  • Make sure old scripts will still compile, not switch around types and such
  • Not switch around func/proc names
  • Fix up hooks.scar so it's fucking readable -.-


Its more because your tone is demanding, and commanding. Its a team sport, remember that.

I am OK with removing things like r_UpText. We have functions within SRL for that. But if you remove things like reflection banking, thats excessive.

Why not do up a patch and post it. I am not exactly comfortable giving you access yet. You are distraught and a little to attacking for my liking. Post a patch here and we can see what we can do.

Naike

2010-10-03 16:29:45

I'm taking action.

I know it's a team sport, otherwise I wouldn't go on and on about getting some knowledge in this community. Still nobody tries to see the positive side, only the negative.
As nobody else maintains it, and it takes 2-3 weeks to update the svn/hooks, I'm willing to do the effort.

I wouldn't do any drastic changes, without posting, and asking, As I wouldn't do with the SRL include (NOTE: Nobody else did this when they updated reflection anyways?).

And just for the record Nava, I'm pretty sure I had access before you? On both Svn's until you guys decided to switch once more, and I cbf asking again. (Edit: BenLand gave me access, and no, I won't do anything stupid)

I think you took the last post rather offensive?, as my tone is perfectly fine in a case like this..

JPHamlett

2010-10-03 16:37:15

I can update hooks I just need access to do so.

Naike

2010-10-03 16:43:24

From: J_Pizzle
I can update hooks I just need access to do so.


Talk with BenLand or Nava2 :)