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For supplying everyone else hooks in /reflection..

he surely deserves something for his hard word every time RS updates

I believe the Hooks he posted were generally a mix of the Hooks multiple different people got, and I only see three threads about it from him?

I don't really have feelings either way on this one at this point.

If he's willing to commit the hooks when he updates them I think he should be given write access to the svn.

From: NCDS
I believe the Hooks he posted were generally a mix of the Hooks multiple different people got, and I only see three threads about it from him?

I don't really have feelings either way on this one at this point.

People with his kind of knowledge should be appreciated and kept in sight, if we can get him to stay, and maybe even write a tutorial or two, we'll profit way more then handing out a pixel cup or something like that instead of doing nothing at all.

So what do you propose?

If he keeps updating, and does what he does best, we should grant him members.

Simple as it is, he knows stuff we don't.
If we want to find out, we have to go to #RsBot where they aren't that friendly.

This is just one, of the few, I'll try to invite from other places here, and try to get them to stay. People with this kind of knowledge, if proven to be willing to continue update, is what we should be looking for..

I don't really have any problem with that.

Is he more active/well-known on another forum or something?

Then give him a helper cup?

From: IceFire908
Then give him a helper cup?

Members are a bit a more appropriate?

From: Naike
Members are a bit a more appropriate?

Well what I picked up from this thread was that we was a helpful guy. Not necessarily a vital resource. Him "updating" the hooks is useful, yes, but consider how he updates them. It probably involves him manually parsing other sources, in latent terms, he's not a java guru like _Super/Ruler/Solarwind/Geno .

He deserves a cup for his efforts, but auto memborization is something reserved for people who have unique talents or assets.

Ok turns out I was wrong, after digging around some more, he is somewhat of a java guru, I agree with Naike on this one.

From: IceFire908
Ok turns out I was wrong, after digging around some more, he is somewhat of a java guru, I agree with Naike on this one.

What did you find out that led you to that conclusion?

From: Method
What did you find out that led you to that conclusion?

He has his own updater which is how he got interactiveobject before any bots had them.

From: ZephyrsFury
If he's willing to commit the hooks when he updates them I think he should be given write access to the svn.

Agree, I don't have ownership of the repo, only one on there I see active is Nava.

From: Naike
Members are a bit a more appropriate?

I think members is slightly early, but I think this should be considered.

From: IceFire908
He has his own updater which is how he got interactiveobject before any bots had them.

Neither of those things seem particularly noteworthy to me. It's not all that difficult to make an updater, especially if you have the logs of other updaters to look at while making your own. I've yet to see someone newer to the RS hacking "scene", if you will, that really knows what they're doing.

It would be quite useful to have someone with their own updater as SRL Member, because theres less chance for reflection to go down then, because if they become more active and can see they are appreciated theres more chance they'll stay motivated. At the very least they'll be able to keep it up for a while and perhaps spread enough wisdom to help others make their own updaters. So I say SRL Members and/or Reflection Dev

Isn't everyone else with an updated Members+?

From: Method
Neither of those things seem particularly noteworthy to me. It's not all that difficult to make an updater, especially if you have the logs of other updaters to look at while making your own. I've yet to see someone newer to the RS hacking "scene", if you will, that really knows what they're doing.

..He's better than nothing?

We need all the help we can get..

Best Newcomer
Useful Poster
are the only two that apply at the very least he should have best newcomer. Can we get that voted on/added for him…

~Brak

From: BraK
Best Newcomer
Useful Poster
are the only two that apply at the very least he should have best newcomer. Can we get that voted on/added for him…

~Brak

I was thinking about best newcomer… How ``new'' is he?

From: Wizzup?
I was thinking about best newcomer… How ``new'' is he?

Someone gave him SRL Aristocrat. But he's already past 2 years and doesn't have old timer added. So no to the Best Newcomer.

~BraK

E: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59468

WT-Fakawi gave the SRL Aristocrat. Beat to the Punch

I thought this title appropriate, no?

Auto Memberize is also fine with me!

Isn't the aristocrat cup for people who contribute to the SRL include? :confused:

From: Method
Isn't the aristocrat cup for people who contribute to the SRL include? :confused:

I would have to say that both are probably OK by me. SRL and reflection are both important. :)

From: Nava2
I would have to say that both are probably OK by me. SRL and reflection are both important. :)

If that's the case, it just seems silly to me that pyroryan would receive it for helping out for a few weeks and people like you, N1ke, Narcle, Drags111, Bobarkinator, Widget, and everyone else who helped update and maintain it in the past have received nothing.

From: Method
If that's the case, it just seems silly to me that pyroryan would receive it for helping out for a few weeks and people like you, N1ke, Narcle, Drags111, Bobarkinator, Widget, and everyone else who helped update and maintain it in the past have received nothing.

Your name should be included in there as well.

The SRL Aristocrat does not exist for those >= developer. But, I do believe reflection developers past and present deserve something. As well as Simba Developers; thats a side note though.

From: Nava2
Your name should be included in there as well.

The SRL Aristocrat does not exist for those >= developer. But, I do believe reflection developers past and present deserve something. As well as Simba Developers; thats a side note though.

I agree, if pyroryan gets the cup, so should all these people. I would have voted for auto-member personally.

Aristocrats is -correct me if I am wrong- for non-members that contribute to the include……or SRL/Simba at large. (<- just made that up)

So, isn't it about time to have a Simba Dev (roar) cup and a Reflection Cup?

You guys are cool with pyroryan instamember?

From: WT-Fakawi
Aristocrats is -correct me if I am wrong- for non-members that contribute to the include……or SRL/Simba at large.

I don't think I've ever seen a non-member with Aristocrats. It was originally for SRL Members (or perhaps anyone) that puts lots of effort into developing that perhaps aren't mature enough or too inconsistent for developer. So its more or less for non-devs that contribute a lot.

Pyroryan has updated hooks a few times and has recently helped fix up reflection GroundItems. Tbh, he hasn't done enough to deserve aristocrats compared to other aristocrats, especially when people have done lots more and not received anything.

He's extremely helpful.

Aristocrat was a bad choice..
A reflection cup should be created instead, and given to all the people mentioned.

However, instamember him would be a good idea. He's a nice little extra to this forums..
He's clear headed, not a struggling guy. Easy to talk to and come to conclusion with.
As some know he comes from the RuneDev scene(other bot) where he left as the community was crap, and he ended up here..


OH, and don't you dear taking my hat away! first cup I got, and I really like it : <

I think naike's following a good path. I also agree with finally getting the reflection dev cup implemented.

While we may discuss what would be best, naike's actually doing something about it. If there's a not so great decision here or there it'll still get us further than not deciding at all.

My support is behind him.

~RM

Ya Reflection cup and Simba cup time I think. :)
And automemberise for the reasons mentioned and would also make a statement to other people in the lower ranks, that if you put in good effort you will get noticed and stuff.

From: Naike
OH, and don't you dear taking my hat away! first cup I got, and I really like it : <

I lost mine when I got dev'd >.> I was the first person to get the cup with the exception of a tester account. :<

Members..?

bump*

From: Naike
Members..?

bump*

At this point, I agree with Members.

Although, if he has the knowledge, it would be nice of him to show some initiative and just post a script to apply with.. it really doesn't take much.