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DUTCH anti-Islam MP Geert Wilders, the country's most heavily guarded politician, has denounced an Australian Muslim cleric's reported call for his beheading for denigrating Islam.

"This is really terrible news and a very serious threat, unfortunately," the firebrand politician told AFP by email in response to the threat reported in the popular Dutch daily De Telegraaf.

Wilders, who campaigns for an end to Muslim immigration and a ban on the building of new mosques and the Koran in a bid to end the "Islamisation" of the Netherlands, has been under 24-hour protection since 2004.

According to De Telegraaf, Sydney-born Muslim cleric Feiz Mohammad called on extremists in an internet chatroom to "chop off his head" and accused Wilders of "denigrating" Islam.

An interview with Wilders recorded in June was aired by SBS TV in Australia on Sunday. He called Islamic culture retarded and violent.

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Mohammad, as the head the Global Islamic Youth Centre in the Sydney southwest suburb of Liverpool in 2005, gained notoriety for a speech at the Bankstown Town Hall in March of that year in which he told the audience a rape victim has "no-one to blame but herself".

Women teased men and appealed to their "carnal nature" by the way they dressed in "nothing but satanic skirts", the imam told the crowd.

In 2007, he was named by national security sources as one of at least 10 hardliners who were preaching fundamentalist messages in Australia, propagating a Wahabi ideology espoused by al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

In the same year, Mohammad, who was believed to be living in the Middle East, came to the attention of Australia's attorneys-general when his lectures were included in a box set of DVDs which urged young Muslims to kill non-believers.

The Dutch intelligence service, AIVD, which is understood to have a copy of his latest speech, said Mohammad is considered on a par with US Muslim preacher Anwar al-Awlaki, who is seen as the brains behind a failed attack on a plane flying over Detroit.

Wilders told De Telegraaf, which published a recording of the speech on its website, that he is shocked by the death threat.

The newspaper claims to have a sound recording of the appeal by Mohammad, who it said had links with terrorists and was influential for Western Muslims.

Wilders' Party for Freedom wants to restrict immigration from Islamic countries and considers Islam a violent ideology rather than a religion.

It is currently involved in protracted negotiations to support a minority centre-right government of free-market liberals and Christian Democrats.

Wilders said he would seek "clarification from the Dutch Minister of Interior/ Justice why the secret service and anti-terrorism unit NCTB have not informed me" of the reported threat, and "what the consequences will be for me".

"The information that has come to the fore will be included in the threat analysis for Mr Wilders," said NCTB spokeswoman Judith Sluiter, who added: "We had contact with Mr Wilders last night. We have permanent contact."

Dutch authorities would not confirm the threat or elaborate on possible steps to be taken.

Barred from entering Britain last year to stop him spreading "hatred", Wilders is known abroad for his 17-minute anti-Islam commentary, "Fitna", which was termed "offensively anti-Islamic" by United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.

His Party for Freedom came third in June 9 national elections, nearly tripling its number of parliamentary seats to 24.

Wilders is set to go on trial in the Netherlands in October on charges of inciting racial hatred against Muslims.

Source: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/aussie-cleric-feiz-mohammad-calls-for-beheading-of-dutch-mp-geert-wilders/story-e6frfku0-1225914033334?from=public_rss

Islam is peace for wanting to behead all non-believers and ones who speak out against them!

"Party for Freedom" is the worst name ever.

This guy (Geert Wilders) is pathetic. And he's actually getting quite a lot of votes too. His democratic party is run just by him, no one else in his party has a say.

Don't know who I should be more disappoint in, the political Dutch leader guy or the Islamic extremist.

I know many people who voted for Geert Wilders.

I turned 18 one week to late to vote. Well there have been coming up thoughts to vote for him but it would probably be a stupid and very selfish idea.

I do want that he got some participation in the politics but there could happen crazy things when he got to much.

Well, you gotta take into consideration the kind of people who vote on Geert Wilders.
A really far cousin of mine (actually, our grandpa's were cousins) got a relatively low IQ. He also voted for Geert Wilders because "everybody votes for him, so me too".

From: Markus
Well, you gotta take into consideration the kind of people who vote on Geert Wilders.
A really far cousin of mine (actually, our grandpa's were cousins) got a relatively low IQ. He also voted for Geert Wilders because "everybody votes for him, so me too".

Thats really stupid. But I know some people with a fairly high IQ. Well its above average and they are saying that they dont believe in now a days politics and dont want/care to vote. So the biggest group (political group) will eventually get their votes. Thats like the same stupidity in my opinion.

From: Matsetst
I know many people who voted for Geert Wilders.

I turned 18 one week to late to vote. Well there have been coming up thoughts to vote for him but it would probably be a stupid and very selfish idea.

I do want that he got some participation in the politics but there could happen crazy things when he got to much.

Why would you want him to participate in politics at all?

I have to agree with him though, the ratio of extremists to average believers in Islam is a bit out of whack.

As opposed to other religions, like 1/10000 muslims is insane, and since I think it is now the most followed religion in the world, that's a problem.

From: Wizzup?
Why would you want him to participate in politics at all?

Because the Islam is not tolerant to other religions. Thats my biggest issue.

I see the Islam as a threat to me personally. I want to be safe in my own country.

Islam is in my opinion a religion focused on dominance, totalitarian doctrine, violence and oppression.

From: Matsetst
Because the Islam is not tolerant to other religions. Thats my biggest issue.

I see the Islam as a threat to me personally. I want to be safe in my own country.

Islam is in my opinion a religion focused on dominance, totalitarian doctrine, violence and oppression.

You could stamp that on all religions…

From: Narcle
You could stamp that on all religions…

I do, and even from my "all religions suck" aspect Islam is still leading the way with their extremists.

Judging a religion by it's outliers is foolish. Same goes for mathematics. If every data point is the same except one in a group of 100 entries, the one outlier does not make all the constant entries outliers as well.

There are extremists in everything. Extreme whites, extreme blacks, extreme Christians, Jews, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and Muslims. That does not mean that whites are extreme. It does not mean that blacks are extreme. Nor Christians, Jews, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, or Muslims.

Do you just randomly come accross all these "Hurr fear the evil muslims durr" articles?

Wilder's having to be in 24-hour protection for trolling islam says a lot about muslim extremists, and it's really stupid if some muslims will actually chop his head off (or kill him in any other way) because Geert's "No freedom for brown people" party will just benefit from their prophet being decapitated because it'll make muslims look like bloodthirsty savages.

From: GoF
Do you just randomly come accross all these "Hurr fear the evil muslims durr" articles?

Wilder's having to be in 24-hour protection for trolling islam says a lot about muslim extremists, and it's really stupid if some muslims will actually chop his head off (or kill him in any other way) because Geert's "No freedom for brown people" party will just benefit from their prophet being decapitated because it'll make muslims look like bloodthirsty savages.

Actually, it turns out to be the opposite. We already had a guy like this, called "Pim Fortuyn". He was shot by Volkert van der G. and suddenly his entire party collapsed. The same will probably happen to the "PVV" (Freedom Party) of Geert Wilders.

Not that I would really like to see him die, as it would prove him right. (Not that christians wouldn't do the same, or any other religion)

From: GoF
Wilder's having to be in 24-hour protection for trolling islam says a lot about muslim extremists, and it's really stupid if some muslims will actually chop his head off (or kill him in any other way) because Geert's "No freedom for brown people" party will just benefit from their prophet being decapitated because it'll make muslims look like bloodthirsty savages.

If I say shit about you, you wouldn't retaliate by wanting to murder me!… r-i-g-h-t? :p

[QUOTE=Dan's The Man;734995]If I say shit about you, you wouldn't retaliate by wanting to murder me!… r-i-g-h-t? :p

If I denounced everything you stand for in front of a world audience, in a provocative manner through the use of Racism, etc I think that you would be quite pissed off about it. Killing someone no, but I mean if you don't stand up for yourself you are simply letting people walk all over you.

(inb4 standing up for yourself <> calling for a beheading)