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well i am just curious, if other post what it is below

From: failpailirl
well i am just curious, if other post what it is below

you forgot two of the largest religions in the world, Hinduism and Islam. Might want to edit the pole. I wouldn't shove the two into other.

Also, this isnt a thread to bash other religions or argue.

Added them, and it's poll, not pole.
Would be nice to google the top religions and put them as poll options, and then other.

Jewish
Judism

…? being jewish means you follow Judaism

^ I lol'd. :p

Added Buddhism, and changed a couple to the -ism form. If you vote other, post your religion. Also post if you voted atheism/agnosticism and strongly believe they should be separate.

Other : Wicca :P

I'm atheist, and I think agnostics should always be separate from atheists. Not because I feel any "better" than them or anything, but I feel that they may not want to be grouped with atheists. Atheists tend to get bashed more than agnostics. :p No fair to them, in my opinion.

Im christian. For the people who maybe didnt knew it.

Cigue, may i ask, what does wicca believe in?

Wicca Wiki

Im Athiest.

i am personally agnostic

From: failpailirl
Cigue, may i ask, what does wicca believe in?

It's the cult of nature. There is no single definition of wicca, as it varies from one wiccan to the other.

My personal belief is axed around a more scientific approach of nature : there's nothing more valuable to me than the entropy of the world that surrounds us.

/me is ignored. :p

failpail, would you rather be alone as agnostic or grouped with atheists?

(Related to the thread poll and Boreas' question.)

From: Cigue
It's the cult of nature. There is no single definition of wicca, as it varies from one wiccan to the other.

My personal belief is axed around a more scientific approach of nature : there's nothing more valuable to me than the entropy of the world that surrounds us.

I'm Pagan and as he said Ultimately when it goes back to the basics of all the variations. We worship Nature. My Particular style is what I call "Naturalist".

Atheism isn't a religion. I am atheist btw

um, i consider agnostic's somewhat very close to atheists, idk if this is just me, if some atheists are offended by this, make them separate options.

Christianity because I was born into it… But probably Agnosticism by choice if I had to choose. I sit through an hour of bullshit every week that only makes me hate it more. I think it'd be cool to look into Buddhism, though.

Atheism for the win! ;)

I'm new age/spiritual type. I borrow the best from all religions and leave the shit teachings at the door. I also do science, which fits in great to the spiritual type.

^ has you named this yet?

From: cycrosism
Atheism isn't a religion. I am atheist btw

:p I told you that.

But if you care that much (you don't), the thread title is incorrect, as well. None of us are any religion. ;)

From: i luffs yeww
:p I told you that.

But if you care that much (you don't), the thread title is incorrect, as well. None of us our any religion. ;)

lol, yeah.

I am not offended that atheism and agnostic are in the same catagory, I mean afterall they are similar

I'm not offended, either. I just think it may be unfair for agnostics. :)

it is not unfair for me at all, i just consider us like /b/ro's, very similar, but not exactly alike :D

Agnostic /b/rother? :o Cuhrazay.

Atheist, even after being born into a major Christianity family. SRL made me think and converted me

^ Whoa. :p That's crazy.

Also, to everyone, were you born into the religion you now follow? If not, what religion(s) were you, and what changed/made you think differently about it?

I was Catholic, Christian, Mormon, and then I decided all of it was preposterous and now I'm an atheist.

Yeah I was christian until about last year? Maybe the year before that. I just didn't really like all the stuff that we had to do, going to a huge long easter/christmas service, and going to church some other times, was just bs. But, I am still forced to go to the easter service that will run next year at this church. But after that ill be 18 and my parents cant make me go.

I just stopped beliving in god, realising that he wasn't there, all the stuff I had to learn in school about religion was just bs

Nothing formally but buddhism if anything

From: i luffs yeww
Also, to everyone, were you born into the religion you now follow?

yes, but my parents were very big on letting me choose my faith. they did not shove it down my throat, or make me go to church. i go because i want to now. i go even when they dont lol.

but i must say, they were strong christian believers, but were open to letting me choose, thus making me very open to other beliefs. this, i am grateful for.

Born an atheist, don't want/cba to change.

I'm an agnostic.

The reason I'm not an atheist is possibly because I'm not a big fan of showing off unwarranted self-importance, giving myself some silly titles like "hurr im a secular, free-thinking, rational skeptic (+10 other ones)" and having a superiority complex over everyone else and of course contradicting myself ("religion sucks because they try to make other people to believe what they do, so we should make them believe what we do!" etc.) and being overly aggressive about my beliefs, all of which seem to be huge among atheists. And I can admit that I don't know if God exists.

yea my parents were originally Christian, then i started thinking out side the box

GoF, just because other atheists are arrogant doesn't mean you have to be. :p I know what you mean, though; I feel the same way sometimes.

I'm born an atheist, but I got converted to science :)

From: x[Warrior]x3500
yes, but my parents were very big on letting me choose my faith. they did not shove it down my throat, or make me go to church. i go because i want to now. i go even when they dont lol.

but i must say, they were strong christian believers, but were open to letting me choose, thus making me very open to other beliefs. this, i am grateful for.

^ pretty close to same type of story.

From: i luffs yeww
GoF, just because other atheists are arrogant doesn't mean you have to be. :p I know what you mean, though; I feel the same way sometimes.

^ this sort of think really irks me. I agree, just because other %religionists% are arrogant, loud, and provide a false image doesn't mean you have to.

laveyan satanism. :)

I guess I didn't actually answer the question. Me? I am a Christian. When it comes down to it, I don't 'act' the way Christians are labeled as. I ask, whom will you remember more and which will have a bigger influence on the way you view "Christians": the patron who picks up something that she dropped and holds the door for an elderly person outside a random building as you pass by - or the guy, with a bullhorn and pamphlets telling nobody about the disappointment, the anger, and the wrath of God?

No, I don't believe that you have to be a Christian to be a good person; however I do believe that there is a distinct Love that all persons need to be a Christian.

From:
"So a Christian is somebody who understands this, who understands that people with different perspectives and different religious beliefs and convictions, they're to be loved and respected, because they're made by God, and they're valuable and they matter. God loves the world, so a Christian does too."

I can see the shallow bridge troll comment already: "Valuable??? What do you mean by "valuable"??!? See, that is what I hate about Christians.. they see people as a prize to be converted, some statistic, numbers.. That is why I hate Christianity." …. .. Well, you know what? Me too.

From:
"They aren't statistics, they aren't numbers, they aren't possible conversions. I mean, if, if I'm loving somebody with an agenda, then it isn't really love, is it?"

Christians can sicken me, and at times, it pains me to say I am one… IF the label was as I described.. then no I would never be. It shames me to say that sometimes I am ashamed of what I believe in. But I try to catch myself, because when it comes down to it… I am not ashamed at all. Not in the slightest. If somebody gets angry, says something vile, does something indecent or hurtful towards me because of me being a Christian, that is their fault for judging or pinning a label on me without knowing truly what it is that I, that I believe in.

Neither atheism not agnosticism are religions, and agnosticism is compatible with both atheism and theism and should not be included in the poll whatsoever.

From: GoF
I'm an agnostic.

The reason I'm not an atheist is possibly because I'm not a big fan of showing off unwarranted self-importance, giving myself some silly titles like "hurr im a secular, free-thinking, rational skeptic (+10 other ones)" and having a superiority complex over everyone else and of course contradicting myself ("religion sucks because they try to make other people to believe what they do, so we should make them believe what we do!" etc.) and being overly aggressive about my beliefs, all of which seem to be huge among atheists. And I can admit that I don't know if God exists.

In other words: You're not an atheist because from your experience, you don't like the way that atheists present themselves? Regardless of how you get along with people, atheist is simply a label that we put on people who don't believe in a deity.

Agnosticism is the absence of knowledge of the existence of a god.
Atheism is the absence of belief of the existence of a god.

One can be both an agnostic and atheist at the same time. Using myself as an example, I do not KNOW if a god does/doesn't exist in the same what that I do not KNOW if fairies exist/don't exist, however I do not BELIEVE that a god exists for I have seen no reasonable evidence to suggest that one does exist in the same way that I do not BELIEVE in fairies due to a lack of evidence for their existence.

In this same way, one could be an agnostic theist, not knowing if god exists, but believing that he does regardless.

^ tl;dr, strong vs. weak atheism.

There's some strange set of beliefs in my head, but I cannot define them fully. I voted other.

Christianity

Hindu =]
born into Hinduism

From: bbri06
There's some strange set of beliefs in my head, but I cannot define them fully. I voted other.

This shit is called Wicca by the way :)

^ wat no.

From: i luffs yeww
^ wat no.

Wicca is believing in one, many or no gods; practicing or not a set of rituals construed as prayer; having or disregarding beliefs about karma, chakras, life energy, nature, science, love, emotions, intertwining of the lives of people. It's also about not adhering to any of the mainstream (or even underground, for that matter) religions that litter the world.

Odds are pretty good he IS a wiccan if he is neither an atheist nor a believer of another faith ;)

i believe there is one universal and transcendental god, Ahura Mazda, the one uncreated creator to whom all worship is ultimately directed

put a box for that

What about anti-theist? :P

Atheism FTW.
I wasn't born into a family of religion, so no one ever told me what to think. When I went to secondary school and gained some mild intelligence, it didn't take me long to shake off all the crap we had been taught in primary school about "God".

From: anonymity
I guess I didn't actually answer the question. Me? I am a Christian. When it comes down to it, I don't 'act' the way Christians are labeled as. I ask, whom will you remember more and which will have a bigger influence on the way you view "Christians": the patron who picks up something that she dropped and holds the door for an elderly person outside a random building as you pass by - or the guy, with a bullhorn and pamphlets telling nobody about the disappointment, the anger, and the wrath of God?

No, I don't believe that you have to be a Christian to be a good person; however I do believe that there is a distinct Love that all persons need to be a Christian.I can see the shallow bridge troll comment already: "Valuable??? What do you mean by "valuable"??!? See, that is what I hate about Christians.. they see people as a prize to be converted, some statistic, numbers.. That is why I hate Christianity." …. .. Well, you know what? Me too. Christians can sicken me, and at times, it pains me to say I am one… IF the label was as I described.. then no I would never be. It shames me to say that sometimes I am ashamed of what I believe in. But I try to catch myself, because when it comes down to it… I am not ashamed at all. Not in the slightest. If somebody gets angry, says something vile, does something indecent or hurtful towards me because of me being a Christian, that is their fault for judging or pinning a label on me without knowing truly what it is that I, that I believe in.

Great - you are a perfect candidate to tell Bill O'Reilly to keep his trap shut. Please and thank you :P

Hindu by birth. Yet, I believe more strongly in Buddhism like Claw. It just makes more sense to me.

Any religion is fine to me as long as they don't take the dogma too seriously. Dogma should be judged apocryphally.

Hehe or you could view me as a member of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster :D

I strongly believe in the IPU.

Other - Zamorakian.
The weak deserve to die!
So that the strong may flourish.
Tis' the creed of ZAMORAK!

I like to pick the best from all the religions.

Not much of a fan of divine creatures, nature is pretty cool, some of the stuff of buddhism is alright. etc etc

From: trecool999
Great - you are a perfect candidate to tell Bill O'Reilly to keep his trap shut. Please and thank you :P

Hahaha, thanks. You know, I actually like watching that show sometimes. In moderation of course. But it makes me smile. Surely though, there are things that I do and don't agree with on the show.

From: Runescape Pro
Other - Zamorakian.
The weak deserve to die!
So that the strong may flourish.
Tis' the creed of ZAMORAK!

^ I thought that was called Social Darwinism.. Just saying. Although the name you are using kindof sounds like a runescape cult.. not that it is, and I am sorry if that insults you.

Even though it is a runescape cult. :p

I, myself, am a Christian. Born to it. Yes, some stuff that comes with it can get boring and sometimes is hard to get through.
But when you actually look through and start to understand the logic within the words, its very relieving.
In my opinion.
P.S I'm not the type to get in your face about it. Those are the people that are just trying to get attention from such religious beliefs.

roman catholic born and raised.x]

are you guys talking about dieties to worship, or personal morals, or both? :p

In what sense? I do you mean completely overall when it comes to "what our religion is?" or what our views are? or the like? feel like iterating Awkwardsaw?

I'm Atheist.

Atheist ftw <3
I'd like to believe in a religion, after all they have good intentions! However I can't figure out these so called gods or supernatural miracles… Makes no sense :)

Atheist. Screw you all :D

wat

If you haven't noticed, the majority of people who voted on this thread are atheist.

Also, you're an arrogant child for acting like that. One's religion has nothing to do with their actual personality. And you acting better or superior to others because you deem yourself rebellious is ludicrous.

Grow up.

From: i luffs yeww
you're an arrogant child for acting like that. One's religion has nothing to do with their actual personality. And you acting better or superior to others because you deem yourself rebellious is ludicrous.

Grow up.

<3 ~ you get hugs for a week.

From: i luffs yeww

Also, you're an arrogant child for acting like that.

agree

One's religion has nothing to do with their actual personality.

One's religion instills morals, which guide a persons actions and can shape their personality. So personally, I would have to disagree with you. Morals play too big of a role in decision making and everyday life.

And you acting better or superior to others because you deem yourself rebellious is ludicrous.
Grow up.

agree

Atheist. And I'm so not surprised most people are Atheist here. In fact, it was more than expected. But yes, you should definitely separate the Atheists from Agnostics. There is a Fine line between the two.

From: x[Warrior]x3500
One's religion instills morals, which guide a persons actions and can shape their personality. So personally, I would have to disagree with you. Morals play too big of a role in decision making and everyday life.

The reason I said that one's religion has nothing to do with their personality is because anyone from any religion can have the same personality. Of course each religion causes people to feel differently in certain situations, but a Buddhist and a Muslim could feel the same about any event. (Keyword is could.)

From: D4rk Gr4y
Atheist. And I'm so not surprised most people are Atheist here. In fact, it was more than expected. But yes, you should definitely separate the Atheists from Agnostics. There is a Fine line between the two.

May I ask why? I agree, but it'd be nice to know why you think that. :)

Why what? Why most people are atheist here? Because most educated people are. Especially if they're not born into a religion. Usually if your family is really religious (such as my cousins), they will tend to stay with that religion and pass it onto their kids. As apposed to myself, where we had no hardcore church goings or prayers at every meal. This allowed me to question religions rationally and pick one for myself. Being educated you tend to be more scientific fact based. Because a lot of religious beliefs tend to contradict science proven facts. The goodie optimists, such as my friends, bend the interpretation of their religions to their liking/ to suit their needs (in this case to coexist with Scientology) and voila. You get people becoming atheist because they see a bunch of flaws.

If you're asking why they should be separate, well that's obvious: Atheists are people who BELIEVE there is no God, and Agnostics (as far as I've been told [but haven't looked into it]) are people who cant decide what to believe/ don't believe in either?

From: i luffs yeww
but a Buddhist and a Muslim could feel the same about any event. (Keyword is could.)

Unless that event is religion. I'm pretty sure they'll disagree lol.

Your definition of atheism is incorrect. Atheists do not believe that there is no deity. Atheism is the lack of theism. I, as an atheist, cannot fathom that there could be a deity. It makes no logical sense to me. I don't believe that there is no god. I simply know that there couldn't be.

Agnostics just don't really care. There could be, there couldn't be. But, generally, they like to have that 50/50 chance, because, from agnostics who I've asked, would rather take a chance and sort of believe in a god than totally deny it and be wrong.

Also, intelligence and religion aren't very correlated, usually.

looks like this forum hates god :D but we all already knew that… lol

I disagree with that statement. If you count the number posted for a religion vs the number not for a religion of some sort. Your conlcusion would be false. I would say more of something like, "well it looks like this forum is really math/science/logic based. As such, many of the people here do not view religion as something absolute or concrete. Therefore many do not claim/follow/understand/et cetera religion and/or God." :)