SRL Archive - News and General

Forum Restructure


nielsie95

2010-06-07 10:33:56

Hello there,

As you might have noticed, the forums are being restructured. Our goal is to make the forums less bloated and still have everything we used to have in a way it is easy to find for everyone. Some forums are renamed and a lot of them are moved.

If you have other suggestions for the restructure, please let us know :)

Greetings,
The SRL Staff

ShowerThoughts

2010-06-07 10:44:42

Cool :)

Dervish

2010-06-07 11:34:01

Good thing that Tutorial Island went up.

EvilChicken!

2010-06-07 12:00:20

I recently noticed that the scripts no longer are placed under categories/skill subforums. Maybe I've just missed out on something or misunderstanding something, but in my view, the removal of the categories was .. rather inconvenient. Why was it done?

I've read the sticky, but my eyes see very few scripts with skill icon prefixes.

EDIT: I'm also still waiting for iSpy to be incorporated in the main navbar.. Unless you changed your mind about that, Wizzup?

Rich

2010-06-07 12:02:17

From: Dr D. Dervish
Good thing that Tutorial Island went up.


+1. It was too out of the way at the bottom

nielsie95

2010-06-07 13:25:49

From: EvilChicken!
I recently noticed that the scripts no longer are placed under categories/skill subforums. Maybe I've just missed out on something or misunderstanding something, but in my view, the removal of the categories was .. rather inconvenient. Why was it done?

I've read the sticky, but my eyes see very few scripts with skill icon prefixes.

EDIT: I'm also still waiting for iSpy to be incorporated in the main navbar.. Unless you changed your mind about that, Wizzup?


The main reason was that there were a lot of sections that only had a few threads in them and this way it's also easier to see which scripts are the most active/updated. You can still search for specific skills by clicking on the icon or by searching on prefix.

bbri06

2010-06-07 15:21:35

This is exactly what I wanted to happen, well done.

Main

2010-06-07 16:21:52

A scripting section for neo pets :) or other games.

Rich

2010-06-07 17:23:28

From: Main_Ftw
A scripting section for neo pets :) or other games.


Perhaps under the Scripts section, add two more sub-sections; Other Games, NOTA Scripts (None of the above)

Ogre

2010-06-07 18:33:44

Is it just me or are all of these ordered by Thread title, ascending?

http://villavu.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=63

http://villavu.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=184

http://villavu.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=125

http://villavu.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=205

There might be more

Dan Cardin

2010-06-07 18:57:20

shouldn't "the dump" follow the same rules with the icons and such?

Sir R. M8gic1an

2010-06-07 19:30:20

From: Dan Cardin
shouldn't "the dump" follow the same rules with the icons and such?


Icons?

~RM

Brain

2010-06-07 19:52:30

From: EvilChicken!

EDIT: I'm also still waiting for iSpy to be incorporated in the main navbar.. Unless you changed your mind about that, Wizzup?

pretty please? :)

edit:
also, everything looks good, I like the name for the DUMP.

nielsie95

2010-06-07 20:14:28

From: Ogre
Is it just me or are all of these ordered by Thread title, ascending?


From: EvilChicken!
I'm also still waiting for iSpy to be incorporated in the main navbar.. Unless you changed your mind about that, Wizzup?


Done and done :)

Cheesehunk

2010-06-07 20:19:27

Looks good, pretty much what I wanted/expected. Good work.:)

Dan Cardin

2010-06-07 22:56:25

From: Rasta Magician
Icons?

~RM

Sorry, I meant the prefixes. Though now, i look the dump is apparently for buying and selling things. Though I don't see why the same thing couldn't be applied to allow for all of the forums to be put together.

Brain

2010-06-07 22:58:53

From: nielsie95
and done :)

THANKS FOR iSPY on quick bar thing, I fear I'm already too used to using it other way though

Nava2

2010-06-08 00:45:35

You brought back bold text on the forums <3

Brain

2010-06-08 10:10:17

WWWWWWWWWHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

Bringing back the monster ranks :o

Baked0420

2010-06-08 10:32:02

noooo, I'm a chicken again >:[ before ranks went away I think I was black demon or something like that. Guess we're starting ranks over. Glad to see Activity/Longevity, the "Today" I don't mind, I like it more then I dislike it though, just so you can quickly tell if people were on at all during the day.

Haven't got to browse the forums much yet to see all the changes. Hopefully I can still find everything :p

Sir R. M8gic1an

2010-06-08 10:50:08

I love my rank :p I don't remember seeing it before.

~RM

3Garrett3

2010-06-08 11:23:06

From: Rasta Magician
I love my rank :p I don't remember seeing it before.

~RM


Everyone who isn't in staff is still a chicken, from what I've seen. It upsets me kinda.

I don't like "Today" again, it's not worth it.

Torrent of Flame

2010-06-08 11:30:22

Sure its worth it. It allows you to know you've fulfilled your daily duty on SRL. XD

Wanted

2010-06-08 11:50:59

It's alright, but I miss the bars and not just text for the longevity ect..

Rich

2010-06-08 12:00:55

From: IceFire908
It's alright, but I miss the bars and not just text for the longevity ect..


I agree. Also, how is activity calculated?

Torrent of Flame

2010-06-08 12:03:09

I suppose it goes up a % every day you get 5/5? Or down a % every day you dont get 5/5? xD

Dervish

2010-06-08 12:32:23

Hmm the monster names… What are they influenced by ?

EvilChicken!

2010-06-08 12:36:43

From: Torrent of Flame
Sure its worth it. It allows you to know you've fulfilled your daily duty on SRL. XD


See, there's the problem with the activity bar; it makes posting seem like a, well.. duty. Which goes against it's very own point and purpose, no?


From: Dr D. Dervish
Hmm the monster names… What are they influenced by ?


AFAIK they're based on longevity and activity combined in some simple formula. Correct me if I'm wrong, peeps.

Sir R. M8gic1an

2010-06-08 12:50:41

From: R1ch
I agree. Also, how is activity calculated?


5/5 posts everyday = 100% I think.

or, Total Posts / 5 / amount of days

The bars will be coming back. This is just an initial setup ;)

~RM

Wanted

2010-06-08 13:15:47

Fix the ranks, pl0x

Torrent of Flame

2010-06-08 13:27:11

From: EvilChicken!
See, there's the problem with the activity bar; it makes posting seem like a, well.. duty. Which goes against it's very own point and purpose, no?


Well no, lets face it. Most peopel on SRL make more than 5 posts a day anyways..

Frement

2010-06-08 13:32:48

From: Torrent of Flame
Well no, lets face it. Most peopel on SRL make more than 5 posts a day anyways..


There are days when I post only one or not even that one. But sometimes I post more then 10 a day.

nielsie95

2010-06-08 13:34:57

It's based on how often you visit, how much you post and how long you've been here. The ?/5 is how much you can gain per day. You get 1 for visiting and the other 4 are for posting. If you keep it up for a certain amount of time, you'll gain a rank.

I don't want to explain it down to the very bottom, that'll keep it a bit more exciting :p

EvilChicken!

2010-06-08 13:54:40

From: Torrent of Flame
Well no, lets face it. Most peopel on SRL make more than 5 posts a day anyways..


As frement says,
From: Frement
There are days when I post only one or not even that one. But sometimes I post more then 10 a day.
, I believe the reintroduction of the activity bar will make people's posting patterns a bit more unnatural. For instance, as frement states, he'd normally post 10 posts on some days and some days might pass without him posting anything. Now, with the activity bar reintroduced, people might try to even out their posting habits, which might (again) lead to some people feeling the urge to simply having to post something, which, in the end, might result in less useful posts.

Frement

2010-06-08 14:11:41

From: EvilChicken!
As frement says,
, I believe the reintroduction of the activity bar will make people's posting patterns a bit more unnatural. For instance, as frement states, he'd normally post 10 posts on some days and some days might pass without him posting anything. Now, with the activity bar reintroduced, people might try to even out their posting habits, which might (again) lead to some people feeling the urge to simply having to post something, which, in the end, might result in less useful posts.


More posts on the forums, I would love it. And the people still try to have some content in their posts, right? So maybe its not a bad thing.

Dervish

2010-06-08 14:24:01

There should be some form of "how many scripts released" activity meter or something :)

Sabzi

2010-06-08 15:35:51

From: Dr D. Dervish
There should be some form of "how many scripts released" activity meter or something :)


Ohh, I would have never thought about that, but as I read it sounds a great idea.
Sure there would be some "not too good script", but there would be good ones too. Although machines like RM would pwn everyone :p.

Or a personal rating system that would only involve scripts released.

EDIT: See? My pattern already breaking up! Or is it because I finally got time that my exams are almost over and the summer is here?
3% is fair enough, no? NO?!?!

Dervish

2010-06-08 15:38:42

From: Sabzi
Ohh, I would have never thought about that, but as I read it sounds a great idea.
Sure there would be some "not too good script", but there would be good ones too. Although machines like RM would pwn everyone :p.

Or a personal rating system that would only involve scripts released.

EDIT: See? My pattern already breaking up! Or is it because I finally got time that my exams are almost over and the summer is here?


Well I guess they'd have to be confirmed by an admin or some … :p

MylesMadness

2010-06-08 15:43:17

I was a KBD before they removed them…

Coh3n

2010-06-08 18:05:24

From: 3Garrett3
Everyone who isn't in staff is still a chicken, from what I've seen. It upsets me kinda.

Not everyone. :rolleyes:

3Garrett3

2010-06-08 18:23:58

From: Coh3n
Not everyone. :rolleyes:


You cheated.

Coh3n

2010-06-08 18:26:03

From: 3Garrett3
You cheated.

Lol noooo!

Is there a reason the post count is displayed twice? Or is that also temporary?

MylesMadness

2010-06-08 18:37:22

From: Coh3n
Not everyone. :rolleyes:
wtf hax

Griff

2010-06-08 20:48:41

THE BARS ARE BACK!!! I love the activity and longevity bars.

Brain

2010-06-08 22:34:57

2x post numbers
bars are sweet, thanks!
does activity still go up for spamming in the no-post-count-section or are only counted posts counted toward activity?
or don't answer and make it surprising, tsall good.

Ejjman

2010-06-08 23:42:36

Thanks for finally getting something done, Admins/whoever.

Not like nothing was getting done, but this is nice to see change!


Time to see stats re-incorporated :stirthepot:

SubiN

2010-06-08 23:49:59

i luv the longetivity bar :)

The Claw

2010-06-09 01:21:12

Because the monster ranks are due in part to activity, if you don't have high activity you won't have the old rank you used to have. To everyone saying theyve lost their ranks, that just shows how much you're activity has decreased lately ;) Back in the day, most people were at 100% or close to it.

noidea

2010-06-09 01:31:11

From: The Claw
Because the monster ranks are due in part to activity, if you don't have high activity you won't have the old rank you used to have. To everyone saying theyve lost their ranks, that just shows how much you're activity has decreased lately ;) Back in the day, most people were at 100% or close to it.


Thanks for clarification :)

Ogre

2010-06-09 01:36:40

From: The Claw
Because the monster ranks are due in part to activity, if you don't have high activity you won't have the old rank you used to have. To everyone saying theyve lost their ranks, that just shows how much you're activity has decreased lately ;) Back in the day, most people were at 100% or close to it.


Remove the two post counts please?

The Claw

2010-06-09 01:38:51

Can't, not an admin. Will mention it though

Tim0suprem0

2010-06-09 02:46:50

Nooooo I liked no activity bar :( Now I feel pressured to post more.

I always liked longevity though.

EvilChicken!

2010-06-09 08:45:53

From: Tim0suprem0
Nooooo I liked no activity bar :( Now I feel pressured to post more.

I always liked longevity though.


.. maybe I was just being biased. Maybe the "pressure" people feel to post actually will contribute to more content and activity.

After all, very few people did indeed spam to raise/maintain their activity – and those who did were swiftly dealt with. After all, I have no doubt that this has been thoroughly discussed in the admin forums; I'm sorry for my previous criticism.

Nava2

2010-06-09 09:06:26

Perhaps get rid of the changing bloody banner. Its getting irritating.

ZephyrsFury

2010-06-09 09:16:14

From: Nava2
Perhaps get rid of the changing bloody banner. Its getting irritating.


Have to agree there.

The Claw

2010-06-09 09:23:17

The one with the green truck and blue of the forums suits it best I reckon. Would be more professional at least

Nava2

2010-06-09 10:47:19

want a simba one :)

HyperSecret

2010-06-09 10:49:08

From: Nava2
want a simba one :)


Mufasa/Simba combination.

Even more, Simba in the foreground with Mufasa in the background.

Tim0suprem0

2010-06-09 11:56:02

From: EvilChicken!
.. maybe I was just being biased. Maybe the "pressure" people feel to post actually will contribute to more content and activity.

After all, very few people did indeed spam to raise/maintain their activity – and those who did were swiftly dealt with. After all, I have no doubt that this has been thoroughly discussed in the admin forums; I'm sorry for my previous criticism.


This is true, I definitely don't spam when trying to get my postcount up, so maybe it will help activity. But isn't it kind of unnecessary to have how many times I've posted in a day visible?

From: Nava2
Perhaps get rid of the changing bloody banner. Its getting irritating.


I like the changing banner!

Dynamite

2010-06-09 13:14:59

Very smart moves on the admins part.
Thank you

Main

2010-06-09 15:39:32

I miss the ranking soo much :)

Dan Cardin

2010-06-09 16:38:27

From: The Claw
The one with the green truck and blue of the forums suits it best I reckon. Would be more professional at least

I agree but, it's background should then be fixed. Its kind of hard to see, but the background has a chunk that's not the right color.

Is it just me or were there more banners in the cycle before?

i luffs yeww

2010-06-09 19:29:04

:) I missed ranks (Chicken, etc.) and activity/longevity/today/posts area. ^^ But yeah, the banner should stay constant. Or be customizable to the user.

3Garrett3

2010-06-09 19:45:31

From: i luffs yeww
Or be customizable to the user.


That is a sexy idea.

Brain

2010-06-09 20:17:24

I don't see how having an activity bar makes you want to spam…should we change it to an INactivity bar, and make it go down, would that make you want to be inactive?

I like, reminds me of the old days, and it lets you see who is posting a lot and who is casually posting.

Main

2010-06-09 20:36:26

Can we switch back to lesser demon and king black dragon?

Brain

2010-06-09 21:09:03

Main, some people are already leveling up, you just need to start grinding man!

I like the fresh start.

Nava2

2010-06-09 23:59:46

I'm a lesser demon :D

Main

2010-06-10 00:57:46

I am grinding up as we speak:).


[beg] please give us black kbd :) [/beg]

Dan Cardin

2010-06-10 06:55:42

Is there any way to put location into the same style as the activity bars and such? If so you could completely get rid of that box and just stick location under the bars. I forget if that's how it used to be or not.

Also, not that its a huge deal, but is there any way to get rid of the line that goes to the left and above the avatars?

nielsie95

2010-06-10 07:10:15

I don't think it's a good idea to mess with the templates more than necessary. This way it's easier to update them (and the forums).

Rich

2010-06-10 12:15:54

From: Dan Cardin
I agree but, it's background should then be fixed. Its kind of hard to see, but the background has a chunk that's not the right color.

Is it just me or were there more banners in the cycle before?


I think I'm looking at the correct banner, but I can't see the blob?

Frement

2010-06-10 12:22:03

From: Dan Cardin
Is there any way to put location into the same style as the activity bars and such? If so you could completely get rid of that box and just stick location under the bars. I forget if that's how it used to be or not.

Also, not that its a huge deal, but is there any way to get rid of the line that goes to the left and above the avatars?


Well in Opera you can modify the CSS for individual pages all you want :)

Wanted

2010-06-10 13:14:55

The ranks are seriously retarded.

Rubix

2010-06-10 13:20:22

From: IceFire908
The ranks are seriously retarded.


you're just mad you're a chicken! *bawk*

anonymity

2010-06-10 14:34:41

I enjoy having the ranks up, it allows for a quick view of stats. In my opinion it makes the forum look more active as a whole. Gives the site a little bit of a liveliness aspect.

Wanted

2010-06-10 14:39:15

From: Rubix
you're just mad you're a chicken! *bawk*


Actually, no they are seriously retarded.

If it's based off of "activity" which is already a bad idea imo, than it is still inconsistent. Take for example both me and The Claw are around 45% activity and yet I'm ranked 0 whilest he is a "tormented dragon" makes sense? Didn't think so.

97% of everyone is a chicken, which is just stupid.

Sir R. M8gic1an

2010-06-10 14:43:29

From: IceFire908
Actually, no they are seriously retarded.

If it's based off of "activity" which is already a bad idea imo, than it is still inconsistent. Take for example both me and The Claw are around 45% activity and yet I'm ranked 0 whilest he is a "tormented dragon" makes sense? Didn't think so.

97% of everyone is a chicken, which is just stupid.


97% have activity < 50%

~RM

Wanted

2010-06-10 14:45:59

From: Rasta Magician
97% have activity < 50%

~RM


What?

nielsie95

2010-06-10 14:46:51

Do note that the mod only started logging when it got enabled, so that's why a lot of you probably have a low activity (or you're just inactive).

MylesMadness

2010-06-10 14:53:20

Then you just set your activity higher I would guess?

nielsie95

2010-06-10 14:57:21

Nope :p
All admins and mods have a different rank.

Torrent of Flame

2010-06-10 15:08:34

I doubt people will care that much about their rank to be honest, hence I doubt that they'll post random shit to get to Lesser Demon or w/e

Wanted

2010-06-10 15:16:15

Exactly so whats the point?

Encourage spam?

Why not just fix the ranking system or remove it entirely, it's completely inconsistent and annoying 2 days into it's existence.

Ogre

2010-06-10 15:18:47

IceFire908, as others have said, I really don't think it will cause people to spam, but I do think it will make people post more.

and I'm not sure but I'm guessing it might take a little bit of time to get ranks, surely not everyone is going to remain a chicken…

Dan Cardin

2010-06-10 16:12:44

From: R1ch
I think I'm looking at the correct banner, but I can't see the blob?

Well i can't really make it the same quality without a png, but this is what came up when i tried filling in the background.

and this is what i got when trying to fix it.
but like i said, without the png, i can only copy and paste things really. I think it screws up the text a bit.

nielsie95

2010-06-10 17:00:30

From: IceFire908
Exactly so whats the point?

Encourage spam?

Why not just fix the ranking system or remove it entirely, it's completely inconsistent and annoying 2 days into it's existence.


What do you mean "fix the ranking system"? As far as I can see it works as it's supposed to.

3Garrett3

2010-06-10 17:10:27

Well, the activity/today doesn't seem to be working for me. My today said that I'd only logged in today, and hadn't posted. Even though I have made like 5 posts today.

nielsie95

2010-06-10 17:17:46

Although the posts in NOTA are not added to your post count, it still looks like you did post more than once.. Weird.. =\
Could you reply again in this thread?

Rich

2010-06-10 17:21:46

From: Dan Cardin
Well i can't really make it the same quality without a png, but this is what came up when i tried filling in the background.

and this is what i got when trying to fix it.
but like i said, without the png, i can only copy and paste things really. I think it screws up the text a bit.


How did you notice that?! :o

noidea

2010-06-10 17:37:52

From: R1ch
How did you notice that?! :o


if you use 16bit colour depth, you can notice a lot of stuff ;)

3Garrett3

2010-06-10 18:27:45

From: nielsie95
Although the posts in NOTA are not added to your post count, it still looks like you did post more than once.. Weird.. =\
Could you reply again in this thread?


NOTA would have been most of my posts, so that is less confusing.

My only other explanation would have been that "today" resets on a general clock, not on my clock. So that might be it..

nielsie95

2010-06-10 18:40:06

Yes, it uses GMT, so I think it's working correctly :)

Dan Cardin

2010-06-10 18:58:42

From: noidea
if you use 16bit colour depth, you can notice a lot of stuff ;)


I just noticed the line it made at the far right. Then upon closer inspection, i saw that the whole background wasn't wrong, it was all just different colors not uniform.

masterBB

2010-06-10 19:12:44

I love these ranks, just like in the days when I registered!