SRL Archive - News and General

Reflection, is it working yet?


Lance

2010-05-04 23:46:00

is it?

Baked0420

2010-05-04 23:53:31

no, TileToMs still is not fixed in SRL AFAIK, so it's not 100% fixed yet.

YoHoJo

2010-05-04 23:54:18

Not really. I think just mapwalking works. So yeah it's pretty much still broken, why not search and read the countless fail treads about it?

Timer

2010-05-05 00:02:03

Never been broken.

Baked0420

2010-05-05 00:11:01

From: Timer
Never been broken.


reflection in the svn for SRL is broken as in we can not use it effectively with what is in there currently..

Timer

2010-05-05 00:14:58

I never said for SRL, silly.

Baked0420

2010-05-05 00:16:57

From: Timer
I never said for SRL, silly.


I was talking about for SRL, silly. Why would I be talking about for someone else when he would be using SRL for reflection?

TRiLeZ

2010-05-05 00:39:12

Hopefully I can fix getTileHeight tomorrow (hopefully RS updates) then I assume TileToMS will work and I'll get upon releasing it.

Lance

2010-05-05 02:11:55

Oh k yeah, I just got a nice account from my brother and I was thinking of getting back into scripting a bit just to bot him up a bit.

Is reading text via reflection fixed? I tried to download reflection with the Reflection Installer script, but it didn't download everything.. unless things have changed a lot since last time I made a script.

YoHoJo

2010-05-05 02:33:12

AFAIK most reflection stuff is broken.
Some scripts (POMS Essence Miner) uses reflection, but DLs it (or something) from their own website. Reflection is pretty jacked up right now, all scripts use color right now besides the few that use reflection walking.

Everyone who seems to know how to fix it doesn't want to/is too busy.
Everyone who wants to work hard to get it fixed isn't experienced enough.
But people like Method will gladly help explain things to you, if you have a good knowledge of java.

Camaro'

2010-05-05 06:46:39

TileToMS is fixed, getTileHeight is not.

Capricorn

2010-05-05 08:33:24

From: TRiLeZ
Hopefully I can fix getTileHeight tomorrow (hopefully RS updates) then I assume TileToMS will work and I'll get upon releasing it.


Jagex said there will be no update this week.

Baked0420

2010-05-05 09:33:55

From: YoHoJo

Everyone who seems to know how to fix it doesn't want to/is too busy.
Everyone who wants to work hard to get it fixed isn't experienced enough.
But people like Method will gladly help explain things to you, if you have a good knowledge of java.


I don't have a whole lot of time, but I have (I think) decent java knowledge, being I was learning Java in AP computer science all year. So I want to try to learn how to fix reflection, I just don't really know where to start in making these algorithms or finding hooks, I found in the .jar hooks before I think, but the method names make it hard to know what goes with what. Hopefully I can get some more extra time soon to learn more about it and try to contribute to fixing it.

Home

2010-05-05 15:06:31

From: Timer
I never said for SRL, silly.


Timer, in every thread you say that you have fixed it or something ( Did i understand correctly ) Well why you don't release it then ;)


~Home

MylesMadness

2010-05-05 15:23:39

From: Home
Timer, in every thread you say that you have fixed it or something ( Did i understand correctly ) Well why you don't release it then ;)


~Home
He feels srl is "Full of leechers".

3Garrett3

2010-05-05 15:28:31

From: Home
Timer, in every thread you say that you have fixed it or something ( Did i understand correctly ) Well why you don't release it then ;)


~Home


From: MylesMadness
He feels srl is "Full of leechers".


He got kicked off SRL reflection developers too, hence not wanting to develop SRL reflection anymore.

MylesMadness

2010-05-05 15:34:38

From: 3Garrett3
He got kicked off SRL reflection developers too, hence not wanting to develop SRL reflection anymore.
So he's butt hurt? Wow…

YoHoJo

2010-05-05 16:02:56

Drop it. Stay on topic.

Drakan

2010-05-05 16:18:24

From: YoHoJo
Drop it. Stay on topic.


Hence why YoHoJo is Super Mod! :P

I havn't touched reflection since I left a year or two ago. I'm gonna start workin on it again now that I have increased my java knowlege :P

mormonman

2010-05-05 20:12:32

From: drags111
Hence why YoHoJo is Super Mod! :P

I havn't touched reflection since I left a year or two ago. I'm gonna start workin on it again now that I have increased my java knowlege :P


DRAGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG dude I haven't talked to you in forever…. get on your msn sometime biotch.[/offtopic-spam]

Naike

2010-05-06 17:03:35

From: Timer
I never said for SRL, silly.


Just to clear something up as I've seen you post some false information about you being kicked off the reflection developers team.

Everyone got kicked out, for not being able to develop. We were like 25 guys, all doing massive changes every week, which broke more then it did good. Therefor Narcles little rage (rawr'!) and the fresh start.
When you act like you could fix it, and say you dropped out of this community becuase of..? what really? I lost a lot of respect for you, not just today, over a long term period.

Sorry for jumping out of topic again.. :duh:

Lance

2010-05-06 18:36:21

Well seems its down for good :P not that its really needed, anything reflection can do colors can to, it just requires so much more work. Bah I might have to go over a few tutorials to freshen up on pascal :P its been so long..

Edit: Is smart working now btw? I think when I left it was glichey.

JPHamlett

2010-05-06 19:07:16

From: Lance
Well seems its down for good :P not that its really needed, anything reflection can do colors can to, it just requires so much more work. Bah I might have to go over a few tutorials to freshen up on pascal :P its been so long..

Edit: Is smart working now btw? I think when I left it was glichey.


its not gone at all im alomst done with it

Method

2010-05-06 20:23:23

From: Lance
Well seems its down for good :P not that its really needed, anything reflection can do colors can to, it just requires so much more work. Bah I might have to go over a few tutorials to freshen up on pascal :P its been so long..

Edit: Is smart working now btw? I think when I left it was glichey.


I can think of multiple things reflection can do that SCAR or Simba alone cannot…

Drakan

2010-05-06 20:29:17

Yah its far from gone for good. It seems this is the hot topic around nowa days. People like J_Pizzle and Method and the likes are working hard on it. From what I hear, progress is being made.

Lance

2010-05-06 22:24:06

oh K well then I retract what I said :P Good work guys

TRiLeZ

2010-05-06 22:38:39

From: drags111
Yah its far from gone for good. It seems this is the hot topic around nowa days. People like J_Pizzle and Method and the likes are working hard on it. From what I hear, progress is being made.


TRiLeZ is also working hard on it. :) I made TileToMS in my java bot and it works nicely so I gave J_Pizzle my bot methods so we are working together on making a pascal version. I'm having a little troubles though…

Drakan

2010-05-07 06:07:09

Yah sorry TRiLeZ :P I know you're workin hard too :)

mastaraymond

2010-05-09 11:33:59

From: TRiLeZ
TRiLeZ is also working hard on it. :) I made TileToMS in my java bot and it works nicely so I gave J_Pizzle my bot methods so we are working together on making a pascal version. I'm having a little troubles though…

So bro, fixed those little problems yet? :p

3Garrett3

2010-05-09 11:46:50

From: n3ss3s
I'm getting mildly pissed off at how hard can it be for someone to rip RSBot's TileToMS?


Do it then? ;)

n3ss3s

2010-05-09 11:48:42

From: 3Garrett3
Do it then? ;)


I'm sorry I just checked and realized the fags put in all the renderdata shit… but still, hasn't it been worked on for months?

Method

2010-05-09 11:51:32

From: n3ss3s
I'm sorry I just checked and realized the fags put in all the renderdata shit… but still, hasn't it been worked on for months?


Yep, it's been close to a year since it was last fully functional and has been worked on for about the same time.

3Garrett3

2010-05-09 12:34:51

From: n3ss3s
I'm sorry I just checked and realized the fags put in all the renderdata shit… but still, hasn't it been worked on for months?


Nobody knows exactly how to do it, its a super slow process from what I've heard.

n3ss3s

2010-05-09 12:36:03

In fact, back when we didn't have SmartGetField2DArray functions, I was thinking about a separate Java program, like KYAB, to do the work… Ofcourse it didn't work for the same context as you can't pass on an integer representing the class to a Java program and expect it to work, but what if we get all the client info needed using SMART, pass it to our other Java program which basically contains RSBot's worldToScreen methods, works the shit out and sends it back to SCAR?

Wanted

2010-05-09 13:24:25

From: n3ss3s
In fact, back when we didn't have SmartGetField2DArray functions, I was thinking about a separate Java program, like KYAB, to do the work… Ofcourse it didn't work for the same context as you can't pass on an integer representing the class to a Java program and expect it to work, but what if we get all the client info needed using SMART, pass it to our other Java program which basically contains RSBot's worldToScreen methods, works the shit out and sends it back to SCAR?



SMART's open sauce, so why not just add the to SMART instead of having SMART SCAR and 3rd Party Program

Method

2010-05-09 15:37:53

From: n3ss3s
In fact, back when we didn't have SmartGetField2DArray functions, I was thinking about a separate Java program, like KYAB, to do the work… Ofcourse it didn't work for the same context as you can't pass on an integer representing the class to a Java program and expect it to work, but what if we get all the client info needed using SMART, pass it to our other Java program which basically contains RSBot's worldToScreen methods, works the shit out and sends it back to SCAR?


You can achieve the same thing by emulating the client's functions in SCAR or Simba. There's no need to use a separate application to get the same functionality.

n3ss3s

2010-05-09 15:43:51

From: Method
You can achieve the same thing by emulating the client's functions in SCAR or Simba. There's no need to use a separate application to get the same functionality.


Naturally, but I think the problem here is that to the people willing to make a working TileToMS, the RSBot source looks like a mean clusterfuck of code ready to munch on their balls with their rusty 2 inch teeth?

Method

2010-05-09 16:00:18

From: n3ss3s
Naturally, but I think the problem here is that to the people willing to make a working TileToMS, the RSBot source looks like a mean clusterfuck of code ready to munch on their balls with their rusty 2 inch teeth?


So what? An inability to understand Java isn't a reason to take some pointless roundabout path to solve the problem.

The Claw

2010-05-10 00:58:49

When theres no other working alternative and its been this way for a year maybe its time to start looking at the pointless roundabout paths

JPHamlett

2010-05-10 07:43:06

From: The Claw
When theres no other working alternative and its been this way for a year maybe its time to start looking at the pointless roundabout paths


me trilez drag and benland *I think* are really close to getting it to work were just trouble shotting alittle bit of it

Naike

2010-05-10 09:52:40

From: J_Pizzle
me trilez drag and benland *I think* are really close to getting it to work were just trouble shotting alittle bit of it


I've only seen a lot of talking in this matter?
And when I actually saw code, it was based on my crappy MMToMS calculations..

So please, share what you do got, and what there is to troubleshot and I promise you, if it's that close someone here will take the time and finish it.

mikevskater

2010-05-11 01:34:59

Ok… so what i dont understand, is that"back in the day" reflection seemed to be so easily maintained and made. but now fagex posted a update which made the ENTIRE reflection void? i dont see how this thing is possible… what did they do that made EVERY line of code invalid…?

Home

2010-05-11 07:10:55

From: Naike
I've only seen a lot of talking in this matter?
And when I actually saw code, it was based on my crappy MMToMS calculations..

So please, share what you do got, and what there is to troubleshot and I promise you, if it's that close someone here will take the time and finish it.


Naike you are alive :) (Sorry offtopic )

Method

2010-05-11 09:40:25

From: mikevskater
Ok… so what i dont understand, is that"back in the day" reflection seemed to be so easily maintained and made. but now fagex posted a update which made the ENTIRE reflection void? i dont see how this thing is possible… what did they do that made EVERY line of code invalid…?


The client underwent a big remodel when it was updated to the Runetek5 game engine.

Naike

2010-05-11 10:50:36

I've seen some code now..
Not allowed to post it though, for some reason?

and boys..
It's looking way better then the first time :D

mikevskater

2010-05-11 16:05:25

From: Naike
I've seen some code now..
Not allowed to post it though, for some reason?

and boys..
It's looking way better then the first time :D


Good to hear, i would gladly help, but sadly i dont know java :duh::duh: