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MSI & SRL Members!


Sir R. M8gic1an

2010-04-23 14:46:29

Dear All,

Hopefully you've noticed MSI's re-opening :)

To be honest, I was a bit sad. I was expecting more response to the re-opening of such an exciting project, but it didn't really come. And so I have to ask, why? What would make MSI more attractive to you?

There is planning for the next part of MSI, the miner, being discussed openly.
There is also discussion on improving the core, by using DDTMs instead of DTMs.

Is the forum structure accessable enough? Intuitive?

We've been thinking of some more ways to get you guys involved.

One of them was to develop money-making scripts, such as an AK-Tanner, which we think would get more people involved both in scripting, testing and using.

Another thing, is that the MSI Core is extremely flexible, meaning that you can pretty much pluck your already made scripts into MSI. I'll be doing this with my guildminer once exams are over.
Also, tutorials on the exact purpose of each function and the reasoning behind it are being written. We felt that this is something that could get more people interested, as it would make it easier to have a general overview of the MSI Include. Do you think it would help you getting more interested?

There have also been talks of adding an MSI Cup. It might happen, if there's enough activity to justify one.

Ultimately, I wanted to ask you: What do you think would get you more involved in MSI?

~RM

HyperSecret

2010-04-23 15:09:43

I don't mean to be blunt but I just don't think many people have use for it in SRL Members. It is great for learning and having a good project but I wouldn't run my main or any important player on it because it is a lot.

If I had a use for my army (that is collecting dust), I would definitely take the time to set it up and run. But really I can't transfer anything to a worthwhile account so there just is no use for me to run it.

That is just my opinion.

Sir R. M8gic1an

2010-04-23 15:40:38

From: HyperSecret
I don't mean to be blunt but I just don't think many people have use for it in SRL Members. It is great for learning and having a good project but I wouldn't run my main or any important player on it because it is a lot.

If I had a use for my army (that is collecting dust), I would definitely take the time to set it up and run. But really I can't transfer anything to a worthwhile account so there just is no use for me to run it.

That is just my opinion.


What kind of scripts do you run then?

~RM

Dynamite

2010-04-23 16:41:59

IMHO I havn't got involved because I don't like coming in half way through a project :/
If MSI had been more open, I would have joined and helped out a lot more, and I think a lot more people would have aswell.
Just my 2 cents.

senrath

2010-04-23 16:51:38

My big problem? I don't have time to script, at all.

HyperSecret

2010-04-23 16:57:57

From: Rasta Magician
What kind of scripts do you run then?

~RM


Honestly, I think scripts that involve more walking get you banned. That is just a superstition of mine. So I only auto with scripts that do little to no walking. I am infront of my computer doing homework 100% of the time when I auto so I usually do the walking if it needs to be done. (wall safes for example I bank and withdraw food/deposit, but the script does the cracking).

It is how I got 99 fletching, and how I plan to get 99 wc on ivy too (currently 80). I don't have to walk with those and they are easily scriptable where nothing too advance needs to be done.

I use to see scripting/autoing as making money through an army and getting wealth. Now that any known good xfer methods are gone, I try to level up 1 character nicely. I am starting with these skills that have little to no walking then I will move onto bigger tasks, which then I will make something that I am comfortable with in walking.

Sir R. M8gic1an

2010-04-23 17:20:26

From: The Man
IMHO I havn't got involved because I don't like coming in half way through a project :/
If MSI had been more open, I would have joined and helped out a lot more, and I think a lot more people would have aswell.
Just my 2 cents.


Most projects are run this way anyway. Hardly anything ever starts from scratch. I never felt like re-writing the SRL Include just to have the script being 'my way' and not starting it 'half way'; But point taken.

Furthermore, only the core is written ;) There's definitely still a lot to do, and a lot that can be done :)

From: senrath

My big problem? I don't have time to script, at all.

Guess there is not much MSI can do about that :( except maybe make it so exciting you'd want to make time for it :) But then again, we all have real lives, me included.


Honestly, I think scripts that involve more walking get you banned. That is just a superstition of mine. So I only auto with scripts that do little to no walking. I am infront of my computer doing homework 100% of the time when I auto so I usually do the walking if it needs to be done. (wall safes for example I bank and withdraw food/deposit, but the script does the cracking).

It is how I got 99 fletching, and how I plan to get 99 wc on ivy too (currently 80). I don't have to walk with those and they are easily scriptable where nothing too advance needs to be done.

I use to see scripting/autoing as making money through an army and getting wealth. Now that any known good xfer methods are gone, I try to level up 1 character nicely. I am starting with these skills that have little to no walking then I will move onto bigger tasks, which then I will make something that I am comfortable with in walking.


Thank you. We'll make sure all scripts have a "power" version. Then again, the WCer already has it :)


More input on this (main discussion) would be appreciated :)

~RM

Gu3st...

2010-04-23 17:26:47

I understand The Man very good. I find the include very confusing and hard to understand, but now as we're writing a tutorial on every procedure inside the include, I think it will be a lot easier to understand :)

3Garrett3

2010-04-23 17:48:20

I have the utmost respect for all of the developers of MSI for continuing the project.

The reason I (and perhaps others) have not been active, is due to a lack of interest in scripting as well as autoing. I have lost most of my army, due to deleting SCAR off my computer in December, and the names escape my memory now. Due to the intense amount of effort to run through everything required to auto again, I have decided to stay on the sidelines until further notice.

Keep in mind though, my IB exams (worth 80% of my mark) start in May, and are done by the 15th of May, and after that, I have only two classes until June, when I am done school for the summer. I am planning a return when the May exams are finished ;)

MylesMadness

2010-04-23 17:52:32

I would help, but I really need someone to kinda lay out exactly what needs to be done. Like, "DTM for ores" or "Walking spits out weird results, debug"

Awkwardsaw

2010-04-23 17:54:02

dont make the tanner, unless i become involved. ;)

i might become active in MSI, if my school work lays off

Coh3n

2010-04-23 17:55:03

From: MylesMadness
I would help, but I really need someone to kinda lay out exactly what needs to be done. Like, "DTM for ores" or "Walking spits out weird results, debug"

In the To-do lists, we could make things more clear on what we think is the best way to do it, then go from there.

Tim0suprem0

2010-04-23 21:20:42

From: 3Garrett3
I have the utmost respect for all of the developers of MSI for continuing the project.

The reason I (and perhaps others) have not been active, is due to a lack of interest in scripting as well as autoing. I have lost most of my army, due to deleting SCAR off my computer in December, and the names escape my memory now. Due to the intense amount of effort to run through everything required to auto again, I have decided to stay on the sidelines until further notice.

Keep in mind though, my IB exams (worth 80% of my mark) start in May, and are done by the 15th of May, and after that, I have only two classes until June, when I am done school for the summer. I am planning a return when the May exams are finished ;)


This. But I spent 3 hours today futzing with Simba and looking through SRL (I've forgotten pretty much everything). I'm going to try and make a script or two and then I'd be happy to help.

Part of the lack of interest comes simply from a lack of time I think.

P1nky

2010-04-24 18:25:26

I'm just not good enough. lol it's the truth i mean why should i help when my work isn't that good i mean it will work and everything but it could be coded probably in a way better way.

:/

Coh3n

2010-04-25 11:21:28

From: ~~Joker~~
I'm just not good enough. lol it's the truth i mean why should i help when my work isn't that good i mean it will work and everything but it could be coded probably in a way better way.

:/

Well you would make a thread on the part you wrote where you would get feedback and possibly ways to improve what you wrote. :)