SRL Archive - Banned from RS

Hello,
I just want to warn you all, this isn't about my account.
It's about the scripts I used.

I used the following scripts:


1) IceFire's Essence Miner
2) IceFire's Firemaker
3) Coh3n's Draynor Cutter
4) Coh3n's everywhere cutter
5) R!chie's Powerminer

The order is from the latest ones to the oldest. (1 being latest)

One of them caused this.

From: mysterious123
Hello,
I just want to warn you all, this isn't about my account.
It's about the scripts I used.

I used the following scripts:


1) IceFire's Essence Miner
2) IceFire's Firemaker
3) Coh3n's Draynor Cutter
4) Coh3n's everywhere cutter
5) R!chie's Powerminer

The order is from the latest ones to the oldest. (1 being latest)

One of them caused this.

I personally havnt used any of these scripts (i make my own private ones) but IceFire,Coh3n, and R!chie have been known to make very good scripts. could it be your fault?

how many hours did you auto? did you not take a break? did you take any precautions or did you just press play and leave it there for 30 hours?

I agree with Warrior. They all make great scripts, especially IceFire's essence miner which was developed by 20+ people and Coh3n's scripts are incredibly nice as well. My view, and not to be mean: You didn't auto properly.

From: itSchRis917
I agree with Warrior. They all make great scripts, especially IceFire's essence miner which was developed by 20+ people and Coh3n's scripts are incredibly nice as well. My view, and not to be mean: You didn't auto properly.

I autoed for 15 hours a day.

They caught me after 1 month.
Once you auto, it's always your fault… lol

What do you guys think I should say to get it appealed? The truth?

Never tell them the truth about autoing. It will do you no good. Also NEVER give them a suicide plea.

Some ones that have worked in the past:
Racism card - If your character is not Caucasian
Terminal illness - You stay on and play RS all day because you are stuck in a hospital and have nothing better to do.


Also, 15hrs a day is a bit much.

Do some math…
There are 24 hrs in a day
You are recommended to get 8 Hrs sleep a night
Leaving you with a 16 hr day
If you play 15 Hrs a day
You have 1 hr left to go about your day.

Jagex is not THAT ignorant.

From: mysterious123
I autoed for 15 hours a day.

They caught me after 1 month.

Then it truly was your fault. I would never suggest autoing for more than 8 hours a day, and that is pushing it. Also, take days off from autoing, just do some legit stuff for a little while.

If you try and auto like a human would play, your much better off than just trying to auto as much as possible.


It's not any of those scripts fault directly. Well, at least not IceFire's or Coh3n's, I haven't used the other one.

From: NCDS
Then it truly was your fault. I would never suggest autoing for more than 8 hours a day, and that is pushing it. Also, take days off from autoing, just do some legit stuff for a little while.

If you try and auto like a human would play, your much better off than just trying to auto as much as possible.


It's not any of those scripts fault directly. Well, at least not IceFire's or Coh3n's, I haven't used the other one.

Buddy, I know it's my fault. I would never blame a script.
It's my fault for using a script. You should have read my previous posts which you clearly haven't.

Do you guys think they read these forums?

Example 1- You blame yourself

From: mysterious123
Buddy, I know it's my fault. I would never blame a script.
It's my fault for using a script. You should have read my previous posts which you clearly haven't.

Do you guys think they read these forums?

Example 2- You blame the scripts

From: mysterious123
Hello,
I just want to warn you all, this isn't about my account.
It's about the scripts I used.

I used the following scripts:


1) IceFire's Essence Miner
2) IceFire's Firemaker
3) Coh3n's Draynor Cutter
4) Coh3n's everywhere cutter
5) R!chie's Powerminer

The order is from the latest ones to the oldest. (1 being latest)

One of them caused this.

Make up your mind about what caused your banning. Personally, I feel its your fault for not autoing correctly.

From: aran armath
Example 1- You blame yourself



Example 2- You blame the scripts



Make up your mind about what caused your banning. Personally, I feel its your fault for not autoing correctly.

…..

I'm saying it's my fault for using a script, not for autoing improperly.

I'm also stating that if anyone wonders, I've used those scripts, so it's a bit of a warning as well.

From: mysterious123
…..

I'm saying it's my fault for using a script, not for autoing improperly.

I'm also stating that if anyone wonders, I've used those scripts, so it's a bit of a warning as well.

Those script do what they are supposed to do, you did not, this thread is more like a warning to you that auto properly.

I don't get you guys, do you come here to spam?

I've already said it three times:

It's my fault, with scripts or without.
A script causes a ban, whether it was used improperly or whether is was used properly. If I played 24 hours a day without botting, I wouldn't have gotten a ban - You got to agree with me on that.

I'm just saying here which scripts I used so if another person gets banned using lets say one of those script, we'll be able to at least know which scripts need more tweaking in order to be not caught.

I think you guys thought I was mad and was trying to blame people.
Well, I'm not.
And I don't see what gets you other than higher post count to tell me that "It's your fault" when I already stated in my next posts that I agree?

From: mysterious123

It's my fault

true

From: mysterious123

A script causes a ban, whether it was used improperly or whether is was used properly.

false

the particular scripts you used would not have gotten you banned if u used them properly. :) the problem is, u used them improperly.


I personally would learn from this and move away from "public" scripts. Make your own private ones :)

From: mysterious123
I don't get you guys, do you come here to spam?

I've already said it three times:

It's my fault, with scripts or without.
A script causes a ban, whether it was used improperly or whether is was used properly. If I played 24 hours a day without botting, I wouldn't have gotten a ban - You got to agree with me on that.

I'm just saying here which scripts I used so if another person gets banned using lets say one of those script, we'll be able to at least know which scripts need more tweaking in order to be not caught.

I think you guys thought I was mad and was trying to blame people.
Well, I'm not.
And I don't see what gets you other than higher post count to tell me that "It's your fault" when I already stated in my next posts that I agree?

Whats the point of this thread? If you know its your fault?

guys, lighten up, it wasn't completely his fault, how many autoers go less than 8 hours a day??? legit players play more than that when on vacation / weekends. 15 hours is a lot, but right now im doing like 20h a day, but not for more than a week, no ban, im doing that witch kbot for now though, and its almost unhumanly fast ;D. es i am risking a ban, but im aso not doing it for long periods of time. im a kid so i really only need 1 hour to go about my normal day and still dont need 8 hours of sleep.(well, i should but i dont :P)

anyways, mysterious is putting up a good warning in my opinion, if a script was perfectly human he would NOT have been banned. it is no persons fault. beating jagex and looking completely human isnt easy. and we arent paid to make scripts either.

From: Frement
Whats the point of this thread? If you know its your fault?

The same point of this forum. This forum wasn't made in order for your guys to flame the topic starter, is it?

It's in order to learn from other's actions. SRL is all about learning as the mods and admins say. Isn't it?

I already stated why I posted it here.

And I'm sure people with less experience would definitely learn from this.

From: mysterious123
The same point of this forum. This forum wasn't made in order for your guys to flame the topic starter, is it?

It's in order to learn from other's actions. SRL is all about learning as the mods and admins say. Isn't it?

I already stated why I posted it here.

And I'm sure people with less experience would definitely learn from this.

Yes but you keep "disrepsecting" us by saying it was the scripts fault whether I autoed right or wrong.

From: mysterious123
Buddy, I know it's my fault. I would never blame a script.
It's my fault for using a script. You should have read my previous posts which you clearly haven't.

Yes, I clearly did, otherwise I wouldn't have posted.

From: aran armath
Example 1- You blame yourself



Example 2- You blame the scripts



Make up your mind about what caused your banning.

As stated by aran you placed possible blame on a number of different script's.

I was merely trying to point out to you some "tips" on autoing safely. If you choose to remain ignorant to them, then that is your choice.

From: The Man
Yes but you keep "disrepsecting" us by saying it was the scripts fault whether I autoed right or wrong.

I'm saying that it is my fault for using scripts. A script causes the ban.

This is why:
A script runs 24 hours, a human lets say plays 24 hours.

The account with the script will get banned, but not the human.
The account with the script is noticeable. That's why.

If it wasn't noticeable, no one would have been banned and this thread wouldn't have been here.

Look at the logic. I will definitely keep contributing in scripts and post proggies. Some scripts are more noticeable than others. Lets help those scripts by seeing which of the scripts are.

This is exactly like posting a proggie. I don't see what gets you all against helping SRL have more knowledge over which scripts are better than others and which scripts are more noticeable?
It's as if you are all Jagex staff.

You would rather if everyone here were leechers?

But a human enough script shouldn't get you banned for macroing even if you did 15 hours a day. (= perfect autoresponder etc…)

From: antti mies
But a human enough script shouldn't get you banned for macroing even if you did 15 hours a day. (= perfect autoresponder etc…)

Exactly my point.

So lets help the weaker scripts get to that perfection.

lol slioghtly offtopic but i think we should look at the positives in other bots and try to mimic them, this is one of my rs accounts log in kbot:

[11:51:57]KBot PRO by Kosaki started. Copyright © 2009 Jan Ove Saltvedt. 
[11:51:57]Runescape started. 
[11:56:23]Started script Miniak 
[11:56:26]Starting random: AutoLogin 
[11:56:51]Random: AutoLogin exited. 
[12:43:37]Starting random: AutoLogin 
[12:43:51]Random: AutoLogin exited. 
[13:11:10]Starting random: AutoLogin 
[13:11:24]Random: AutoLogin exited.
[13:34:53]Starting random: Freaky Forester 
[13:36:9]Random: Freaky Forester exited. 
[13:36:15]Starting random: Reward Box
[13:36:15]Random: Reward Box exited. 
[13:36:17]Starting random: Reward Box 
[13:36:17]Random: Reward Box exited. 
[13:36:19]Starting random: Reward Box 
[13:36:19]Random: Reward Box exited. 
[13:36:20]Starting random: Reward Box 
[13:37:0]Random: Reward Box exited. 
[13:39:25]Starting random: AutoLogin 
[13:40:45]Random: AutoLogin exited. 
[13:40:45]Starting random: AutoLogin 
[13:45:56]Random: AutoLogin exited. 
[13:45:56]Starting random: AutoLogin 
[13:51:9]Random: AutoLogin exited. 
[13:51:9]Starting random: AutoLogin 
[13:56:20]Random: AutoLogin exited. 
[13:56:20]Starting random: AutoLogin 

it actually solves them, often(too often) srl gets stuck, and sometmes doesnt even realize its in a random event(bannage)

None of these scripts caused this.
It is your fault.

From: mysterious123
Exactly my point.

So lets help the weaker scripts get to that perfection.

Your asking for someone to dedicate months of their time to get a color finding macroing program to get to that level.

As you attempted to say before, SRL is a learning community. It isn't likely that someone is that dedicated to RS or Pascal scripting to put forth that effort.

You should be extremely greatful to the people here at SRL who still release scripts. They take a long time to get right, especially if the person actually cares about their work.

There are plenty of warning's on how to properly auto with Scar/Simba and SRL. You chose to ignore them by autoing for 15+ hours a day.

From: g0tp0t
lol slioghtly offtopic but i think we should look at the positives in other bots and try to mimic them, this is one of my rs accounts log in kbot:

[11:51:57]KBot PRO by Kosaki started. Copyright © 2009 Jan Ove Saltvedt. [11:51:57]Runescape started. [11:56:23]Started script Miniak [11:56:26]Starting random: AutoLogin [11:56:51]Random: AutoLogin exited. [12:43:37]Starting random: AutoLogin [12:43:51]Random: AutoLogin exited. [13:11:10]Starting random: AutoLogin [13:11:24]Random: AutoLogin exited. [13:34:53]Starting random: Freaky Forester [13:36:9]Random: Freaky Forester exited. [13:36:15]Starting random: Reward Box [13:36:15]Random: Reward Box exited. [13:36:17]Starting random: Reward Box [13:36:17]Random: Reward Box exited. [13:36:19]Starting random: Reward Box [13:36:19]Random: Reward Box exited. [13:36:20]Starting random: Reward Box [13:37:0]Random: Reward Box exited. [13:39:25]Starting random: AutoLogin [13:40:45]Random: AutoLogin exited. [13:40:45]Starting random: AutoLogin [13:45:56]Random: AutoLogin exited. [13:45:56]Starting random: AutoLogin [13:51:9]Random: AutoLogin exited. [13:51:9]Starting random: AutoLogin [13:56:20]Random: AutoLogin exited. [13:56:20]Starting random: AutoLogin 

That doesn't mean your not going to get a ban.

So you are saying that scripts are exactly 100% like human, respond like human and act like human. And you are saying that Jagex bans ALL accounts which play 15 hours a day?!

That sounds absurd with all due respect.

From: mysterious123
So you are saying that scripts are exactly 100% like human, respond like human and act like human. And you are saying that Jagex bans ALL accounts which play 15 hours a day?!

That sounds absurd with all due respect.

I dont think he said that? We do our best to develop scripts for everyone to use, you really cant expect them to be 100% human like? You knew there was no auto-responder, you knew they might not be 100% human like, still you decided to auto 15 hours a day while you perfectly knew all you are going to get from it is a ban. I think you are being very ignorant.

From: mysterious123
So you are saying that scripts are exactly 100% like human, respond like human and act like human. And you are saying that Jagex bans ALL accounts which play 15 hours a day?!

That sounds absurd with all due respect.

it's happened before. And your account becomes flagged in the least if you consistently play 15+hours a day. Also, no script is 100% human like.

From: mysterious123
So you are saying that scripts are exactly 100% like human, respond like human and act like human. And you are saying that Jagex bans ALL accounts which play 15 hours a day?!

That sounds absurd with all due respect.

That's actually the opposite of what I'm saying. That's why we have rules and guidelines to autoing with SRL, to avoid situations like this.

SRL is not 100% human like, but neither is any other macro/bot you may use unless it uses AI, which could still not make it perfect, and as far as I know, there are none of those..?

Plenty of people including myself auto with an SRL script on a daily basis. I haven't had a problem with a ban in over a year at least. Same goes for a lot of people here. You just need to cheat respectively.

So I don't understand why you keep posting?!
The scripts are obviously not like human as you admitted yourself, so lets help them get to be as close to human.
Or in math:

Lim
Script -> Human

Have you not read this:

From: antti mies
But a human enough script shouldn't get you banned for macroing even if you did 15 hours a day. (= perfect autoresponder etc…)

Exactly my point.

So lets help the weaker scripts get to that perfection.

(Or as close to it!)

Who plays 15 hours a day? Jagex will look at your account and see you playing 15 hours a day, every day, for a month. Now, how many people do you see just play runescape, eat, sleep and use the washroom? For a month straight? That looks pretty bottish for me. If I were to do that legitimately, and if people watched me doing the same thing for around a week, they would report me and Jagex would probably ban me.

Also, if it's the scripts fault for your ban, do you not think that you'd get banned if you were a level 3 character with default clothing? Even if the script has an auto-responder (which some do), you'd get banned.

Also, nobody is flaming you. We all think that it's your fault that your account got banned. It's not like your computer made you character itself and just started autoing it…

I play rs 18-24 hours per day during the summer.

And I've got multiple 99s autoing with 50 line scripts for days straight.

Point being, it's your fault. I auto much much more than you did, and I've never got a ban. I don't even use breaks. But I check it and watch movies while auto, and I don't use SMART when I can, so that I can easily type and auto at the same time (not that SMART isn't good or anything :p I love it. But when autoing a lot, I tend to just use the browser and talk to people while I auto).

Sorry, but it's entirely your fault, imo.

Mysterious,

From reading all these posts you keep saying you want to help the weaker scripts. If thats what you want to do then I suggest that you post your proggies and flaws on the scripts thread. If you want to do more then that, then learn to script and get your hands dirty and actually write scripts and help others make theirs better.

Now you know how to make scripts better, any other questions?

From: aran armath
Mysterious,

From reading all these posts you keep saying you want to help the weaker scripts. If thats what you want to do then I suggest that you post your proggies and flaws on the scripts thread. If you want to do more then that, then learn to script and get your hands dirty and actually write scripts and help others make theirs better.

Now you know how to make scripts better, any other questions?

Yes, one more question:

I don't understand why you're telling me to do things which I already do?
I also mentioned in this thread that this is exactly like a proggie.
Even if one person has a problem in his proggie - you don't go off flaming him saying it's his problem. You learn from it.

So instead of repeating what others said, learn from other's bans.
Whether it's my fault or not - it's still a ban.

Whether scripts are perfect or not - I'm still banned.


Fine just lock this thread.
If this community is against learning from others but only from their own mistakes, be it.

From: mysterious123
I also mentioned in this thread that this is exactly like a proggie.
Even if one person has a problem in his proggie - you don't go off flaming him saying it's his problem. You learn from it.

"Even if one person has a problem in his proggie" what?

From: Frement
"Even if one person has a problem in his proggie" what?

Read my other posts please.

could a mod move this to the flame section in waste of time of-> bbq pit. i think it woould fit better in there. ;)

btw, i found that mysterious123 is not a big contributor, so he does deserve a litle tiny bit of flame, just to roast his butt and ask him to help better scripts by posting more proggies and learning to script a little so he can correct simple errors himself.

in the last 2 weeks mysterious has posted 10 replies to theads - 5 helpfull posts and 4 posts asking for help.

@mysterious, thank you for letting us know which scripts could have possibly banned you, but i think you should list the scripts you used within a month on the banned acc(cuz banning proccess might really take a month to go through and be confirmed by jagex), and stop autoing for a few days after ban because jagex might flag your ip address.

@ flamers this thread IS helpfull because we now which scripts may be detectable by jagex. i do not think autoing 15 hours, or 100 hours makes a difference in most cases. only when mods go bot hunting, and if you are in a low populated world they probably wont visit you. so no worries there.(i think)

EDIT:

Mysterious123:

Yes, one more question:

I don't understand why you're telling me to do things which I already do?
I also mentioned in this thread that this is exactly like a proggie.
Even if one person has a problem in his proggie - you don't go off flaming him saying it's his problem. You learn from it.

So instead of repeating what others said, learn from other's bans.
Whether it's my fault or not - it's still a ban.

Whether scripts are perfect or not - I'm still banned.


Fine just lock this thread.
If this community is against learning from others but only from their own mistakes, be it.
Reply With Quote

what was the question? :tongue:

From: g0tp0t
could a mod move this to the flame section in waste of time of-> bbq pit. i think it woould fit better in there. ;)

btw, i found that mysterious123 is not a big contributor, so he does deserve a litle tiny bit of flame, just to roast his butt and ask him to help better scripts by posting more proggies and learning to script a little so he can correct simple errors himself.

in the last 2 weeks mysterious has posted 10 replies to theads - 5 helpfull posts and 4 posts asking for help.

@mysterious, thank you for letting us know which scripts could have possibly banned you, but i think you should list the scripts you used within a month on the banned acc(cuz banning proccess might really take a month to go through and be confirmed by jagex), and stop autoing for a few days after ban because jagex might flag your ip address.

@ flamers this thread IS helpfull because we now which scripts may be detectable by jagex. i do not think autoing 15 hours, or 100 hours makes a difference in most cases. only when mods go bot hunting, and if you are in a low populated world they probably wont visit you. so no worries there.(i think)

EDIT:

what was the question? :tongue:

Have you ever considered I had since march one semi-final test every week?
I study for those tests, I don't spend 24/7 botting. I did bot during spring break. That was only for 2 weeks, and maybe a week before that. So that would be 3 weeks.

With all do respect, I never said I've contributed more than anybody.
But please look at yourself, after looking at your posts, most of them seem like 1337 speak and spam.

Just stop this, this thread ISN"T about arguing nor who contributes more.
The fact that I posted this means I have intentions to contribute.

The fact I post proggies after I bot means I have intentions to contribute.

But please look at yourself, after looking at your posts, most of them seem like 1337 speak and spam.

comparison?

btw soonot true, i havnt posted many progs because i have been writing a script with frement. also i dont use 1337 speak much… y u say?

i didnt compare YOU to anybody, merely said you have posted 10 times this last 2 weeks. if you have an excuse thats cool. doesnt matter. i did say thnks, and i thought i was being the nice guy :\

From: g0tp0t
comparison?

btw soonot true, i havnt posted many progs because i have been writing a script with frement. also i dont use 1337 speak much… y u say?

i didnt compare YOU to anybody, merely said you have posted 10 times this last 2 weeks. if you have an excuse thats cool. doesnt matter. i did say thnks, and i thought i was being the nice guy :\

If only I had enough time to post more on these forums, sadly I don't.

Next time, just don't talk about member's contribution because some people find it offensive.

I've asked from an admin to lock this.

I thought I was doing good by sharing this with people - as a progress report in some way or another. But I guess people understood it as if I was whining, which was really not my intentions.

From: mysterious123
If only I had enough time to post more on these forums, sadly I don't.

Next time, just don't talk about member's contribution because some people find it offensive.

I've asked from an admin to lock this.

I thought I was doing good by sharing this with people - as a progress report in some way or another. But I guess people understood it as if I was whining, which was really not my intentions.

My guess is you were fucking mad at the time you got banned. We all know (or should know atleast) that autoing can get you banned, i dont think we need this sort of "progress reports" that blame the scripts, no, you did not blame them directly, you just said you were using THOSE scripts, and THEN you got banned. I do not dislike you, i dislike the thread, if you find this post offensive, im sorry, but this is the truth i believe in.

Guys, just drop it. Lets wait till a mod/admin locks this thread.
I had other intentions, I guess people understood me wrongly.

Forget this ever existed and lets all just be friends.

You see though, correcting people when they disrespect someone who has volunteered their time for the good of the community; that is allowed.

I read your first post. You very clearly blamed the five scripts that you used for your ban. There is no other way to interpret what you have written. It was 100% the blame game. Then once you realized it was your fault, you defended yourself (yet again) by saying that if the script was perfect, or approaching perfection (yes I understand calculus) then you would not have been banned. To me, this meant that you had obviously not ever tried to script in your entire life. If you have ever spent hours trying to perfect a script, to make it work 24/7 without a ban, you will realize how incredibly difficult that is. Especially since we use SCAR/Simba. The programs are far from perfect, the developers know that, we all know that. If it were perfect, it wouldn't be developed anymore.

Simply said, your ignorance and disrespect throughout the entire thread (I have read every single post) has lead me to two conclusions:

The major conclusion being that you have never scripted, or have never made a hard script requiring weeks of work.
Stemming from this conclusion, I know that you do not respect the effort of the people who do produce scripts, and actually maintain them. I have done it before, after releasing the script there are always weeks more work fixing unresolved bugs, trying to find the wrong code in 1000 lines of work isn't easy. Learn some respect for those who deserve it, or get out.

From: 3Garrett3
You see though, correcting people when they disrespect someone who has volunteered their time for the good of the community; that is allowed.

I read your first post. You very clearly blamed the five scripts that you used for your ban. There is no other way to interpret what you have written. It was 100% the blame game. Then once you realized it was your fault, you defended yourself (yet again) by saying that if the script was perfect, or approaching perfection (yes I understand calculus) then you would not have been banned. To me, this meant that you had obviously not ever tried to script in your entire life. If you have ever spent hours trying to perfect a script, to make it work 24/7 without a ban, you will realize how incredibly difficult that is. Especially since we use SCAR/Simba. The programs are far from perfect, the developers know that, we all know that. If it were perfect, it wouldn't be developed anymore.

Simply said, your ignorance and disrespect throughout the entire thread (I have read every single post) has lead me to two conclusions:

The major conclusion being that you have never scripted, or have never made a hard script requiring weeks of work.
Stemming from this conclusion, I know that you do not respect the effort of the people who do produce scripts, and actually maintain them. I have done it before, after releasing the script there are always weeks more work fixing unresolved bugs, trying to find the wrong code in 1000 lines of work isn't easy. Learn some respect for those who deserve it, or get out.

See, even you didn't understand my intentions.
If you want to blame my wording and the fact my English isn't great, go ahead. I don't type perfectly and you might find in some threads that I don't use good wording.
This isn't my native language.

I never thought I ever had to even say this… Well, if you ask my close friends you would know that I'm not a guy who blames things. Nothing comes out from blaming unless you do something about it.

You really think I care about that account?

Once again, please stop posting. Lets just wait till this thread gets closed.
Else I'd have to delete it myself…

closed on request.

~RM