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Hey guys,

I have a very successful gold shop going over at sythe, but am running out of mills. The orders just keep coming, and getting bigger and bigger :p (2 people making $150+ orders just today).

To keep up with demand, I will need to buy some mills. I know some of you here have lots of mills, but no way to transfer it. Even though I will be profiting off of your mills by buying them cheaper, you get some very large advantages:

-Very low chance of scam (I don't think there's reason not to trust me)
-Dealing with the people/scammers on sythe isn't always fun
-You don't need to waste time manually transferring the gold to accounts like I will
-You don't need to worry about anything!


What I will do is you will give me your account password. I will get on it, use your account to transfer mills to other people, and pay you $1 for each mil I take/sell.


Anybody interested? Please add my msn or post here if you have any questions.

Thanks!
~JAD

For anyone who asks
"Why can't I just do this myself"
The answer is, JAD knows a kick ass transfer method to transfer large amounts of gp.
The benefits of this are, you dont have to find a buyer, negotiate, and risk getting scammed, JAD does all the work, you get the free $.

Does this require p2p?

Yeah :/

From: GoF
Does this require p2p?

Yeah it does. Should have mentioned that above.

Well, I got 215M queued up :)

From: Widget
Well, I got 215M queued up :)

Rich boi.

I took a look around, seems like I got like 10 mils, max.

Protip: Don't sell to JAD.

And it's not free money.

Why not robot?
Doing this though JAD isn't that bad at all.

No need to deal with risk of finding a buyer/getting scammed.
And mainly, to RWT now a days you NEED to know a GOOD way to transfer gp/do unbalanced trades. I doubt many people know methods of transferring large amounts of
gp?

Unless you know a good way to transfer large sums of gp fast why not do this though JAD?

From: YoHoJo
Why not robot?
Doing this though JAD isn't that bad at all.

No need to deal with risk of finding a buyer/getting scammed.
And mainly, to RWT now a days you NEED to know a GOOD way to transfer gp/do unbalanced trades. I doubt many people know methods of transferring large amounts of
gp?

Unless you know a good way to transfer large sums of gp fast why not do this though JAD?

One reason not to would be the large amount of profit he's making off you if you sell, which makes a difference when trading higher amounts of cash. Just saying. Its up to the seller if the decrease in potential profit is worth the convinience of selling to a trusted person with a method.

Well its either know a method, sell yourself, don't know a method can't sell at all.Up to what the seller feels I guess.

Well you can buy this method for 20 bucks from 'RS2Pleasant' and then make profit $.$

From: mastaraymond
Well you can buy this method for 20 bucks from 'RS2Pleasant' and then make profit $.$

1) R2Pleasent does not sell the method anymore. Many people have asked him about it on msn since then, and he tells all of them no. So you can't get his method anymore.

2) Profit, but at what cost? If your account has 600M, that would take over 40 hours to transfer (that's if you can get the ridiculously hard items needed to transfer), hours of talking to people/trying to convince them you're legit/using MM's and paying fees at first.

Honestly, then, I think it would be worth the extra effort to get the full price. Don't sell to JAD just because he's "Special" and wants your money for $1.

Ugh stop taking a shit on JAD. If people want to they will, if they don't they wont, no need to bash. Some people wouldn't mind selling mills for 1$

From: R0b0t1
Honestly, then, I think it would be worth the extra effort to get the full price. Don't sell to JAD just because he's "Special" and wants your pixels for $1.

Fixed :rolleyes:

I'm suggesting they not, I have every right to.

From: R0b0t1
Honestly, then, I think it would be worth the extra effort to get the full price. Don't sell to JAD just because he's "Special" and wants your money for $1.

The key word there is "I". I don't care what you think… Like, at all. People will formulate their own opinions. I'm sure everybody in SSRL+ is capable of doing so.

People can't even get the transfer method anymore robot. So what kind of effort would it take to invent one? Is it really worth it?

How much effort would it take to build a reputation on sythe, talking to different people/weeding out scammers, getting scammed (because it's inevitable), and spending your time transferring it? That's not a little effort, that's a lot of effort, and I offer to do it for you guys here for a profit.


Everything I said there is fact. Even if the effort is worth it, there is no good method available anymore.

As I said, I don't care what you think, because I already got all the gp I need for a while. I have 2B to sell now. Thanks for your input Robot, but it is merely your opinion.

From: JAD
1) R2Pleasent does not sell the method anymore. Many people have asked him about it on msn since then, and he tells all of them no. So you can't get his method anymore.

2) Profit, but at what cost? If your account has 600M, that would take over 40 hours to transfer (that's if you can get the ridiculously hard items needed to transfer), hours of talking to people/trying to convince them you're legit/using MM's and paying fees at first.

Well if you're going to sell 600m, then the difference in profit you could make is $1200. You could make $600 selling to you, or for some extra time, make $1200-1800. Once a buyer has been found, 40 hours transferring for an extra $1200 = $30/hour. Thats twice as much as I make IRL, I'd do that.

There are plenty of viable methods. Eye of newts (I think? I haven't checked.), white berries, you could also grow crops (like white berries…), etc.

Basically, anything that allows one player to "print money". This can be situationally dependent, as it might require certain skills, etc, but with the skill-sharing mabob, that certainly opens up possibilities (mainly, crafting runes).

From: The Claw
Well if you're going to sell 600m, then the difference in profit you could make is $1200. You could make $600 selling to you, or for some extra time, make $1200-1800. Once a buyer has been found, 40 hours transferring for an extra $1200 = $30/hour. Thats twice as much as I make IRL, I'd do that.

You wouldn't get 1800 without a strong reputation there… 1500 at $2.50/M it would be. So for $900, you could spend 40 hours transferring (That is, if you can get a 15M/hr method, which I can't find anywhere other than R2, who isn't selling anymore).

Once a buyer has been found? You think one buyer will buy all those mills? It will take talking to many many people. If you get scammed on an order for 100M, that means you lose $250. It would be very unlikely to go through 600M in orders without at least 1 scam.

From: R0b0t1
There are plenty of viable methods. Eye of newts (I think? I haven't checked.), white berries, you could also grow crops (like white berries…), etc.

Basically, anything that allows one player to "print money". This can be situationally dependent, as it might require certain skills, etc, but with the skill-sharing mabob, that certainly opens up possibilities (mainly, crafting runes).

None of those would do even close to 5M/hr.. So it would mean 150+ hours of transferring in Claw's example.





You guys are truly over simplifying what I need to do. I don't need to convince you though. Try selling your gp yourselves.. You'll see exactly what I mean.

I gave him access to my account with over 600M on it. I'm getting over $500 for doing absolutely nothing. I'm not complaining.

You spent your time getting the money. Don't say you autoed it, because it took time to auto. You could have gotten more money for your time.

(I use that example because all you people seem to understand is money.)


Also, I'm not oversimplying what you need to do. You are overcomplicating it.

And you seem to overlook the fact you can sell in sections. It is entirely possible to have someone pay you a few million at a time, so the most they would loose is a few dollars. It would add no time to the overall procedure as they just send the next payment when you finish… (maybe a little, as you check paypal)

Considering my experience, rep, etc., with Sythe and such, I think it's worth it, although maybe slightly unfair for the price (~1.35 would be better). Otherwise, I'd essentially be at it for days trying to get rid of mine, and probably for not much more.

From: R0b0t1
You spent your time getting the money. Don't say you autoed it, because it took time to auto. You could have gotten more money for your time.

(I use that example because all you people seem to understand is money.)


Also, I'm not oversimplying what you need to do. You are overcomplicating it.

And you seem to overlook the fact you can sell in sections. It is entirely possible to have someone pay you a few million at a time, so the most they would loose is a few dollars. It would add no time to the overall procedure as they just send the next payment when you finish… (maybe a little, as you check paypal)

Lol sure it took time to auto, but I didn't do anything other than hit run. Plus what Widget said.

Can someone/a few people tell me the fastest rate at which they can transfer GP at?
gp/hr

IMHO making GP is not hard at all. Yes it is time consuming, even autoing, but if I'm autoing anyway since it's the game inside the game I like to play, I don't count that time. Before I found MITB, I spent a couple weeks at sythe, and it felt like I was getting an STD just by reading threads, and I wasn't even doing any market stuff. Dealing with all that is a pain in the ass, no doubt about it. Whether it is 1.5 times the effort of the effort spent getting GP is debatable, and depends on your situation and what numerical values you arbitrarily assign to the effort for different activities. For example how much time you have to spend outside of work/school/family/friends besides what is already spent on autoing, and how much you hate dealing with the transactions. If you have the extra time/effort to also sell, go ahead. But if like me, you barely have time to run a script, then JAD is offering free money to help pay the bills (or video game budget).

It's not free. Please stop saying that.

The money you acquire from autoing is half, if not more of the result. Levels often come slowly if not at all compared to the amount of money you earn.

It would be easy enough to simply sell your money in blocks, like I said. Doing that would allow you to charge near full price and still attract customers, as the risk of them loosing anything if much at all is very slim.

R0b0t or anyone, seriously, what are some decent transfer methods now a days? I'm honestly wondering, I never RWT so I'm not sure at all.

From: YoHoJo
R0b0t or anyone, seriously, what are some decent transfer methods now a days? I'm honestly wondering, I never RWT so I'm not sure at all.

Why don't you ask jad? I've heard some vague rumors he knows one. Oh wait, because you're trolling.

Jeese Claw, I was just trying to make a point that if no one else knows why decent transfer methods, then either keep your mils and shush, or use JAD. But if you DO know your own method/want to do it slowly over hours and hours, then dont use JAD.

Lets just stop this now :/. We've all made our points and made our opinions clear no need to drag it out.

HEY GUYS MY POINT IS BETTER JUST THOUGHT I'D LET YOU ALL KNOW, THANKS. a

From: R0b0t1
HEY GUYS MY POINT IS BETTER JUST THOUGHT I'D LET YOU ALL KNOW, THANKS. a

Robot, if you go find a transfer method that's a reasonable amount per hour, then your point is fine. Otherwise, it's completely useless, and wrong, seeing as nobody can sell gp without one…


And as you said Robot, do it in small blocks/trades. I get that, and that's what I do. How do you think it works though? Do you think somebody adds you on msn, within 60 seconds sends payment and you start transferring for them? Not that easy.. It takes time talking to people and finding people to buy your gp. You obviously have absolutely no experience selling gp recently, so you wouldn't know this.


This discussion is completely pointless, but you will argue no matter how pointless it is. Some people will benefit selling to me (You can argue that they won't until you're blue in the face, but people such as Boreas and Coh3n have clearly stated they don't have the time to sell it, so they would benefit..), and some wouldn't benefit selling to me; mainly those who have a good transfer method (which nobody who's posted in this topic seems to have, so I'm assuming they're pretty hard to come by).

Anyways, I won't be reading any more posts in this thread for a while, seeing as I have all the gp I need for now. You can now have a pointless argument with yourself Robot, because I won't be reading anything else you post. Please share more of your expert knowledge of gp selling with the rest of villavu… I myself would love to learn more from the master as well.

Cheers,
~JAD

Wtf? Quit assuming. You sell in blocks after you find someone to buy. You tell them you sell (and therefore trade pixels and exchange money in small amounts) in block as a selling point, it's meant to entice people. They can't loose much, and if they loose their five bucks or whatever amount you want to work with, they can just report you or scream profanities at you. Either way, it's biased towards the buyer.

If you want to win an argument, using the straw man fallacy, making personal insults on your opponent, and being dismissive and sarcastic generally isnt the way to go.

JAD, no offence but if you found a method most of us probably could too. We just have no time/desire to.

From: The Claw
We just have no time/desire to.

Therein lies the rub.

From: R0b0t1
Wtf? Quit assuming. You sell in blocks after you find someone to buy. You tell them you sell (and therefore trade pixels and exchange money in small amounts) in block as a selling point, it's meant to entice people. They can't loose much, and if they loose their five bucks or whatever amount you want to work with, they can just report you or scream profanities at you. Either way, it's biased towards the buyer.

Good luck finding 1 person to buy over 200M in "small blocks"… Or even multiple buying 50M total each, for that matter.

From: The Claw
If you want to win an argument, using the straw man fallacy, making personal insults on your opponent, and being dismissive and sarcastic generally isnt the way to go.

JAD, no offence but if you found a method most of us probably could too. We just have no time/desire to.

I'm not looking to win an argument at all, but thanks for the tips… (tbh, Robot is just being confrontational for no reason. He isn't selling or buying mills, so why is he in this thread?)

As ruroken said above, that's the point.. This service is FOR people who don't have the time/desire to spend their time doing this, or they already would have (no offense, I doubt if you even spent 10 hours running around runescape trying different things, you would find a method over 5M/hr tbh. I didn't find mine out, I bought it, but it isn't being sold anymore).

If you don't want to buy from JAD, then don't. It's that simple.

It doesn't add any time… that's why I suggested it in the first place. You pretty much do the same thing transferring, it's just that they give you all the money the first time and you go at it. My way, you just check in every so often and they pay you for the next bit.

From: R0b0t1
It doesn't add any time… that's why I suggested it in the first place. You pretty much do the same thing transferring, it's just that they give you all the money the first time and you go at it. My way, you just check in every so often and they pay you for the next bit.

Maybe I'm doing it all wrong then, because I spend at least 2 hours a day every day just talking to people and working deals out, trying to build trust in people, answering their questions, setting up their accounts and my accounts for the transfer (It takes quite a bit of time to set up.. The method isn't as simple as just a bug to remove the trade limit). And then, after finally convincing them, they change their mind/say they forgot they met a requirement.

Believe me, when it's real life cash you're working with, people like to talk to you quite a bit before just sending a stranger they don't know at all cash…

I just don't see how it doesn't add time. Selling a product doesn't only mean the actual exchange of a product for cash, it involves convincing people to buy the product. Unless you're really trusted, it takes time..


Maybe I make it too complicated, but I spend 5-6 hours a day on the computer for an average of $50 a day, and that's selling my own gp (pure profit). I'll have to post one of my convo logs with the next customer I get, because it's not just

Customer: Hi JAD
JAD: Hi. Ready to buy? [email]runescapemacro@hotmail.com[/email] is my paypal
Customer: ok sent. Here's my account deals.
JAD: Ok, will be done in an hour.

Although that's how you are making it seem..


They have paypal troubles, I have to walk them through it. I find out after they've sent the money that their paypal account actually wasn't verified, and I'm at risk of a chargeback. I ask them to send me an email from the paypal email address to confirm it's not a fraudulent/hacked paypal account, and it takes them 5-10 minutes to do that because they're busy. I have 10 other people messaging me asking if I take accounts, although I clearly stated I only take paypal cash. Then this guy claims he's more trusted than me and I should go first. This guy wants me to do a small transfer of 500k first to confirm I'm legit, so I have to spend 10 minutes setting up the transfer just to confirm trust in the guy. Although you are extremely busy, transferring money and trying to work out deals, you have past customers messaging you just to chat, and you do not want to be rude to them to ensure they come back to you in the future, so you have to explain why you can't talk and apologize. Then there's a guy bugging you on villavu.com about how your service sucks for no reason at all, he's not planning to sell anything to you at all, and you have to try to defend yourself in order to secure future gp for sales once I run out on my account.

Then they ask you for a confirmation pm on sythe to ensure you are actually JAD, but sythe's server is always going in and out because of upset hackers DDoSing the place, so you have to wait for that to load. Then you get people who after taking 5-15 minutes convincing them to buy from you, say they won't have paypal on their account for a few days, and then just end up not buying anything at all.

You have to go through a strict process using paypal (have them attach a message stating that they already received the goods and will not charge back, send an email from the paypal email address to confirm it's not fraudulent, if their paypal isn't verified you are at risk of charge back, you have to do background checks on their msn account if they are not verified to see if they have a history of scamming).



I'm sorry Robot, but if you're wrong on anything here, it would be when you said "It doesn't add any time…".

I can give you my blessing on Sythe if you think it will help you. People tend to be attracted to the high post count, though I never got an ex-mod cup.

Every time I read one of R0b0t1's posts I think I die a little bit inside. I'm not even part of this conversation and I can't stand it already.

From: Town
I can give you my blessing on Sythe if you think it will help you. People tend to be attracted to the high post count, though I never got an ex-mod cup.

Every time I read one of R0b0t1's posts I think I die a little bit inside. I'm not even part of this conversation and I can't stand it already.

Yeah if you could vouch for me there that'd be great Town, thanks! PM'd you the link to my gp selling thread.

You could always quit? You're bringing all that stuff on yourself by having this business.

From: Bobarkinator
You could always quit? You're bringing all that stuff on yourself by having this business.

What the cluck does that even mean. JAD gets NOTHING handed to him in real life, and this is his way to actually get some real cash to get gas, books, and pay for college. Why are you trying to ruin his 'business', its not causing any of you guys ONE BIT of harm, so leave him alone.

Duh hes bringing it all himself, you can say that to anyone who works!
Hard Working Man: Oh man, my job is tough, it stresses me out so much, I can barely stand it!
Retard: You're bringing that all upon yourself! Just quit!
Hard Working Man: Um, sorry, I've got a family to feed and bills to pay!

(Not comparing JAD to hard working man or you to retard, just an example :p)

Honestly though guys, if you dont want to sell the mills, STFU.
If you do want to sell them, then go ahead and do so. (JAD has already bought over 1Billion GP from people here at SRL, I think hes doing fine, and people DO want to sell to him?)

Answer me this:
WHAT THE CLUCK EXACTLY are all of you haters trying to accomplish here anyways?

From: Ruroken
Therein lies the rub.

<3

From: YoHoJo
What the cluck does that even mean. JAD gets NOTHING handed to him in real life, and this is his way to actually get some real cash to get gas, books, and pay for college. Why are you trying to ruin his 'business', its not causing any of you guys ONE BIT of harm, so leave him alone.


(Not comparing JAD to hard working man or you to retard, just an example :p)

Honestly though guys, if you dont want to sell the mills, STFU.
If you do want to sell them, then go ahead and do so. (JAD has already bought over 1Billion GP from people here at SRL, I think hes doing fine, and people DO want to sell to him?)

Answer me this:
WHAT THE CLUCK EXACTLY are all of you haters trying to accomplish here anyways?

Dude, what are YOU trying to accomplish here? We're all just stating our opinions, hardly "hatin" or trying to shut down his business, yet on every one of them you jump down our throats saying we're wrong, and then you give JAD an e-blowjob for a bit. You've said you support JAD, we get it, no need to rebut every single little point someone makes….

Not saying you cant/shouldnt voice your opinion, but to say the same stuff over and over and over and over and over…makes me wonder how much JAD is paying you for this, lol.

From: YoHoJo
Lets just stop this now :/. We've all made our points and made our opinions clear no need to drag it out.

This thread is going nowhere.

From: Bobarkinator
You could always quit? You're bringing all that stuff on yourself by having this business.

I like running my own business. I'm just explaining that there is more to running your own business/selling a product than you would think… Did you not read the posts above that one? If you did, you would notice why I felt the need to explain that.


@Claw, I would say this thread is going somewhere. I've gotten people to sell me lots of gp. That was the main reason for this thread. This debate you guys have created is what's going nowhere. I didn't create this thread for Robot and you/others to spam it with your "expertise" in a business you have absolutely 0 experience working in recently. I am going to request you guys not post in here any more unless interested in selling me gp. This is the SSRL section, so I assume you guys can respect that so I don't have to close it…


I'm sorry if I sound rude or cocky, but you guys are acting like experts on something you are not. All of your things are "In theory". As I clearly proved above, selling gp is much more then the task of transferring gp to people's accounts. If semi trusted, you get a shot at maybe 1-2 people buying gp a day. If you are not on at a time they are on, then they will just go to a different gp seller who is online.

From: The Claw
You've said you support JAD, we get it, no need to rebut every single little point someone makes….

You've all said you don't support me. There's no need for you guys to keep saying the same thing over and over again, either.

I really hope you did read what I said in the post above this one. I work very hard to run my business. I make good money because of all the time I put in. I hope you guys realize it isn't as easy as you thought it was when first entering this thread..

So? You do the same things (except the transferring method, perhaps), and I know you had to coerce the buyer, etc, etc. You yourself say waiting is the main part of it, I didn't factor that in, because, well, I didn't.

From: R0b0t1
So? You do the same things (except the transferring method, perhaps), and I know you had to coerce the buyer, etc, etc. You yourself say waiting is the main part of it, I didn't factor that in, because, well, I didn't.

Point is Robot, I don't see how you can you tell me how easy it is to sell rsgp (at least since the trade limit) if you've never done it… You are the kind of person who will never admit when you are wrong, even if you can see when you are wrong. Since you failed to respect that I wanted this discussion to end, I have to close the thread…


Closed.

I wish I had seen this earlier..

This is JAD's shop, either you sell GP to him or don't post. Anything else s pretty much spam.

And about everyone stating their opinions, this is not he Debates forum in case you failed to notice. Want to discuss it? Do it elsewhere.

@JAD, you might as well start a new thread (when you need one) and report any spam /offtopic / business discussion.

~RM