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Hey, I could use some help with the uptext problem, because I have little time atm… It would be really helpful if people could provide me with data about the uptext, not so much on how it looks, but the colors.

Basically this is what I need:
A set of color values used in a single character, the color values used in it's shadow and the color values of the background just around the character. All of these separated of course.

It's be useful to get this in several different places, including really hard ones here the background is for example whitish or black. Also for as many different text colors as possible.

I know it's an annoying assignment, but if a few people could do this for 1 or 2 characters, it'd already help a lot, maybe you could possibly post a screenshot of the character alongside the values.

Sorry on my iPhone atm.. Will do tomorrow.. Could u try using find deformed bitmap for each character in uptext?

The 't' is missing in UpChars font.
E: Nvm

From: jimmy_mac
Sorry on my iPhone atm.. Will do tomorrow.. Could u try using find deformed bitmap for each character in uptext?

FindDeformedBitmap is horrible for text recognition, really…

I'm making a snow sculpture. First time I'm available to the internets is in 2 days, sorry!

I'll harvest all of the white uptext chars.

From: TRiLeZ
I'll harvest all of the white uptext chars.

Most important thing is mainly to have some on various backgrounds, which doesn't really matter

Can you tell me how to do this? I'd really like to help

so just take printscreens with uptext, then spin the camera so the background on the topleft is different and get a different uptext or the same one?

From: Baked0420
so just take printscreens with uptext, then spin the camera so the background on the topleft is different and get a different uptext or the same one?

save as a .bmp

:duh: I know that, but does he want screenshots of text and then THE SAME TEXT with a different background, or just as many different texts with as many different backgrounds?

From: Baked0420
:duh: I know that, but does he want screenshots of text and then THE SAME TEXT with a different background, or just as many different texts with as many different backgrounds?

From: Freddy1990
set of color values color values color values screenshot of the character alongside the values.

As long as the color values aren't exactly the same (which they won't be with a varying background) you should be fine. Most texts have the same relative colors except the fact that there's a white, a blue, and maybe another or two.

Not to be a fail noob… but I assume in the Standard/Low Quality Set screen… with all effects off or to the minimal setting… am I correct?

From: anonymity
Not to be a fail noob… but I assume in the Standard/Low Quality Set screen… with all effects off or to the minimal setting… am I correct?

Low quality, yes, but effects or w/e doesn't matter

Mine = 12961221, 12829635
  Rocks = 12961026, 12829440
  shadow = 131586
  
  Attack = 14079959, 14476262
  Dwarf = 517094, 120791
  (level: 10) = 120578, 516881
  shadow = 462353
  
  A = 14277338, 14277082, 14804456, 14211545, 14607077, 14541284, 14804198, 14870506, 14541540
  shadow = 395789, 395531, 330252, 329996
  t = 14804456, 14804197, 14738920, 14738663, 14738662, 14541283, 14870506, 14277082, 14277081
  shadow = 395788, 592909, 527375, 527632, 593168, 264203, 329995
  t = 14277082, 14277081, 14804197, 14607076, 14804455, 14672612, 14541283, 14804456, 14211545
  shadow =  593167, 264202, 264203, 329995
  a = 14277082, 14804455, 14475490, 14540768, 14211545, 14804198
  shadow = 593167, 329481, 592910, 329480
  c = 14804198, 14211545, 14277082, 14540768, 14804197, 14803940
  shadow = 329480, 592910
  k = 14277082, 14804455, 14211288, 14804198, 14277081
  shadow = 65793, 593167, 526860
  D = 253664, 121305, 55512, 55513
  shadow = 198152, 65793, 592652
  w = 121305, 648164, 713957, 55512
  shadow = 658445, 461323, 395530, 461066, 461067, 592652
  a = 516579, 55769, 121305, 55512, 450785, 516578, 384992
  shadow = 65793, 329481
  r = 55512, 121305, 55513, 976871, 976614
  shadow = 65793, 198152, 921102
  f = 121305, 55513, 55512, 253664
  shadow = 65793, 198152
  (level: 10) = 121089, 55296
  shadow = 65793

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/862/71350037.png

Correct? If so I'll keep this up to kill some more time.

From: Town

Mine = 12961221, 12829635
  Rocks = 12961026, 12829440
  shadow = 131586
  
  Attack = 14079959, 14476262
  Dwarf = 517094, 120791
  (level: 10) = 120578, 516881
  shadow = 462353
  
  A = 14277338, 14277082, 14804456, 14211545, 14607077, 14541284, 14804198, 14870506, 14541540
  shadow = 395789, 395531, 330252, 329996
  t = 14804456, 14804197, 14738920, 14738663, 14738662, 14541283, 14870506, 14277082, 14277081
  shadow = 395788, 592909, 527375, 527632, 593168, 264203, 329995
  t = 14277082, 14277081, 14804197, 14607076, 14804455, 14672612, 14541283, 14804456, 14211545
  shadow =  593167, 264202, 264203, 329995
  a = 14277082, 14804455, 14475490, 14540768, 14211545, 14804198
  shadow = 593167, 329481, 592910, 329480
  c = 14804198, 14211545, 14277082, 14540768, 14804197, 14803940
  shadow = 329480, 592910
  k = 14277082, 14804455, 14211288, 14804198, 14277081
  shadow = 65793, 593167, 526860
  D = 253664, 121305, 55512, 55513
  shadow = 198152, 65793, 592652
  w = 121305, 648164, 713957, 55512
  shadow = 658445, 461323, 395530, 461066, 461067, 592652
  a = 516579, 55769, 121305, 55512, 450785, 516578, 384992
  shadow = 65793, 329481
  r = 55512, 121305, 55513, 976871, 976614
  shadow = 65793, 198152, 921102
  f = 121305, 55513, 55512, 253664
  shadow = 65793, 198152
  (level: 10) = 121089, 55296
  shadow = 65793

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/862/71350037.png

Correct? If so I'll keep this up to kill some more time.

Yeah, but I also need the colors around the character in the background

From: Freddy1990
Yeah, but I also need the colors around the character in the background

Assuming the word character is referring to the letters in this case (rather than my Runescape character), is it more helpful to have the color that would be overlapping with the color of the text or the colors surrounding the text? I could be more specific if I was giving you which color was the result of the overlap with a background color, though it would take more effort.

If that wasn't coherent: To my understanding, the color of the text changes as a result of its overlapping with the color behind it. Otherwise, the color would be constant besides the fade that can be seen in the first two examples. Would you rather have several sets that looked something like "Text on Black + Background = Resultant Text Color" or just a list as I was making before while adding an extra category for colors that surround the text?

This would be one of the options,

Mine = 12961221, 12829635
  Rocks = 12961026, 12829440
  shadow = 131586
  background = 789517
  
  Attack = 14079959, 14476262
  Dwarf = 517094, 120791
  (level: 10) = 120578, 516881
  shadow = 462353
  background = 3234160
  
  A = 14277338, 14277082, 14804456, 14211545, 14607077, 14541284, 14804198, 14870506, 14541540
  shadow = 395789, 395531, 330252, 329996
  background = 4150111, 2639447, 3955308, 2902619, 2376274
  t = 14804456, 14804197, 14738920, 14738663, 14738662, 14541283, 14870506, 14277082, 14277081
  shadow = 395788, 592909, 527375, 527632, 593168, 264203, 329995
  background = 4150111, 4084061, 4413798, 2178123, 2640219, 2310224, 2772577, 2966866, 4413798, 2966866
  t = 14277082, 14277081, 14804197, 14607076, 14804455, 14672612, 14541283, 14804456, 14211545
  shadow =  593167, 264202, 264203, 329995
  background = 4413798, 2966866, 4150111, 3952731, 3098452, 2244174, 2310224, 2772577, 2640219, 2178123
  a = 14277082, 14804455, 14475490, 14540768, 14211545, 14804198
  shadow = 593167, 329481, 592910, 329480
  background = 4413798, 3555399, 2635069, 2503482, 4347747, 4281697
  c = 14804198, 14211545, 14277082, 14540768, 14804197, 14803940
  shadow = 329480, 592910
  background = 2503482, 2635069, 4347747, 4281697, 2897210, 592910, 4148050, 3096135
  k = 14277082, 14804455, 14211288, 14804198, 14277081
  shadow = 65793, 593167, 526860
  background = 4347747, 4413798, 3689044, 789773, 658189, 462353, 789773
  D = 253664, 121305, 55512, 55513
  shadow = 198152, 65793, 592652
  background = 658189, 1584183, 4345687, 1584183, 4477273
  w = 121305, 648164, 713957, 55512
  shadow = 658445, 461323, 395530, 461066, 461067, 592652
  background = 4608859, 4477273, 658189, 3293771, 3359822, 2964548, 3162185
  a = 516579, 55769, 121305, 55512, 450785, 516578, 384992
  shadow = 65793, 329481
  background = 658189, 3096135, 2766655, 3293771, 3162185, 3359822, 2503482
  r = 55512, 121305, 55513, 976871, 976614
  shadow = 65793, 198152, 921102
  background = 658189, 1584183, 6251107, 4408647, 921102
  f = 121305, 55513, 55512, 253664
  shadow = 65793, 198152
  background = 1584183, 658189, 6251107
  (level: 10) = 121089, 55296
  shadow = 65793
  background = 658189

I don't understand shit, but I'll work on it once I've got a good night's rest… Anything to help bro !

Well, I went walking around… this is what I got.. I didn't have a chance to get the numbers… I am tired.. going to go to bed… be back later.. but .. here ya go… - oh, also, I noticed that the letter spacing randomly changes. Would that contribute to the problems being had?



It is like jagex just put out a few text styles (new and old) and now has it rotate randomly for everyone's view..

From: anonymity
Well, I went walking around… this is what I got.. I didn't have a chance to get the numbers… I am tired.. going to go to bed… be back later.. but .. here ya go… - oh, also, I noticed that the letter spacing randomly changes. Would that contribute to the problems being had?

It is like jagex just put out a few text styles (new and old) and now has it rotate randomly for everyone's view..

Padding alone should in theory not have anything to do with SCAR unable to read the text…

And that image dosen't help at all because it's saved as .jpeg…
EDIT: In case you don't know the difference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG#JPEG_compression

From: Zyt3x
Padding alone should in theory not have anything to do with SCAR unable to read the text…

And that image dosen't help at all because it's saved as .jpeg…

Yeah, true, JPEG is lossy, can't do much with that…

@Town: I've analyzed some of the colors you gathered, shouldn't be too hard to write an algorithm for that, I was wondering you could get a few characters over a background of a similar colors, like a white char on a white wall or something like that… That'll tell me how sensitive I'll have to make the algorithm

ImageBucket always converts .bmp's to jpg's and png's …

Try www.tinypic.com

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  shadow = 1448217, 1250839, 1382424, 1053202, 1645597, 1711390, 1579803, 1579804, 1580060, 1579804
  background = 9610666, 9478822, 8952478, 8886428, 8688793, 8491413, 10400439, 10004400, 12111829, 11321799, 6319472, 7767432, 8688793, 10137010, 10400439, 11190469, 10663868, 10927041, 11321799, 12836066, 12177878, 10466489, 10400439, 10268853, 10005680, 9742251, 9544616, 9281443, 8952478,
  l = 14145495, 15527920, 15725299, 15462127, 15264491, 15264748, 15330541, 15396334, 14079703, 14079959
  shadow = 1579804, 1514011, 1448218, 1382425, 1579547
  background = 9740971, 10004400, 10400439, 9610666, 7964812, 8294034, 8557463, 8952478, 9281443, 9544616, 9939631, 10203060, 9347237, 8359827, 8030862, 13099495, 12836066, 9148833, 9346213, 9477798
  i = 14211288, 14145752, 16054521, 15922678, 15856886, 15988728, 15462127, 15198954
  shadow = 1909026, 1776927, 1842977, 1974563, 2040355, 2106405
  background = 9610666, 8359827, 8030862, 13099495, 12836066, 8557463, 10729661, 9807021, 10596538, 11189189, 11913170, 12176342, 12110549, 12572894, 12375257
  m = 15791093, 15856886, 15659250, 15593713, 15725300, 14145495, 14145496, 14211288, 15527664, 15461871, 15462127, 15988728, 14211545, 14079702
  shadow = 1776927, 1579548, 1579804, 1514011, 1645341, 1974819, 2106405, 1908769, 1842977
  background = 10135986, 11583948, 12177878, 12375257, 12572894, 12110549, 12176342, 12176342, 11913170, 11189189, 10596538, 9477798, 9610666, 9742251, 12770273, 12375257, 11585228, 10596538, 11189189, 11452362, 11386568, 12375257, 7964044, 9609642, 10004400
  b = 15791092, 15790836, 14145752, 15922935, 15791349, 15462127, 15264491, 15133162, 15198699, 14211288, 15527920, 14145495, 15659507, 14145496, 15527664, 15659506, 14079959, 14079703
  shadow = 1842977, 1579804, 1514011, 1513755, 1579548, 1908513, 1777184, 1777440, 1908769, 1382168, 1579804
  background = 10662588, 11057346, 12572894, 9610666, 9544616, 10201780, 9807021, 9938607, 8293010, 7832458, 12375257, 11386568, 11452362, 11189189, 10596538, 9082784, 9346213, 7569029, 9280163, 9543592, 9346213, 9740971, 9543592, 9807021, 10267829, 9807021
  - = 15527920, 15330541
  shadow = 1777183, 1579547, 1513754, 1579804, 1711390
  background = 11848656, 9610666, 11058626, 10927041, 11321799, 10268853, 9544616, 9280163, 10465209, 11651277, 12375257
  d = 15593713, 15659506, 15462127, 16054521, 15791349, 14211545, 14935526, 14145752, 14145495, 14145496, 15133162, 15791349
  shadow = 1514011, 1579804, 1843233, 1711390, 1777183, 1909026, 1909025, 2106405, 2172198, 1579804, 1645597, 1579803
  background = 13165288, 9610666, 9148833, 9280163, 9544616, 10268853, 11321799, 10597818, 10663868, 9347237, 9478822, 7635847, 6582388, 8952478, 9281443, 11190469, 11585228, 11453898, 11058626, 12111829, 13165288, 11321799, 8029838, 7766408, 7832458, 12572894
  o = 15462127, 15396334, 14079959, 14145495, 14211545, 15922935, 15659506, 16054521, 15198954, 14079702, 15528176, 15527920
  shadow = 2106405, 1777184, 1777183, 1645597, 1711134, 1909026, 2040612
  background = 9610666, 9544616, 12836066, 12770273, 10662588, 9543592, 10135986, 10267829, 10201780, 12441051, 12506844, 8294034, 8557463, 9347237, 10005680, 11453898, 10137010, 11585228, 11190469, 10597818, 9544616, 9281443, 8952478
  w = 15593457, 15857141, 15527920, 14145495, 14079959, 15330285, 15396078, 14079702, 14014166, 14013910, 15067112, 15198699, 15396077, 14869733
  shadow = 1447961, 1382169, 987410, 1053203, 1316376, 1514011, 1777183
  background = 8753818, 8490389, 6647670, 6319472, 11124420, 8358547, 8292498, 7107965, 9610666, 8555927, 8687513, 10861247, 10927041, 7239807, 9082784, 8161424, 9477798, 9740971, 11124420, 6319472, 6911609, 8557463, 11717071, 10201780, 10267829, 10135986, 9543592, 8293010
  n = 15132649, 14014166, 15001063, 15330284, 15264492, 15659763, 14079959, 14079703, 14079702
  shadow = 1250326, 1052947, 1514011, 1053203, 1118740
  background = 1792844, 6647414, 6779000, 6910585, 8687513, 8753306, 10466489, 8555927, 9610666, 7107965, 7568517, 8688793, 6449778, 7963532, 8557463, 10861247, 10663868, 10729661, 9939631, 8359827, 6449778
  S = 14148365, 13882626, 14214158, 14213902, 14148109
  shadow = 331790, 332046, 265997, 266253
  background = 1924944, 1925458, 1991508, 1858894, 2058327, 2057813, 2124377
  t = 14214415, 13882626, 14214158, 14214415, 13882882
  shadow = 332303, 332560, 332046
  background = 2190427, 2124377, 2058327, 2057813, 2190940, 2256990
  a = 13948418, 14280464, 14280208, 14214672, 13882882, 14214415
  shadow = 398096, 398353, 398352
  background = 2257504, 2256990, 2190940, 2257504, 2323553, 2389603, 2390117, 2456424, 2455910
  i = 14280465, 14211334, 14276871, 16251690, 14280464, 16251689
  shadow = 2106405
  background = 12836066, 14218234, 2456424, 2455910, 2390117
  r = 15988517, 14211334, 14737679, 15329301
  shadow = 2106405, 855567, 1447189
  background = 12836066, 5396831, 8946306
  s = 15329301, 14079491
  shadow = 1447189
  background = 8946306

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3115/74513695.png

TinyPic also converts them to jpeg's, unless there was an option to not convert it that I missed.