super_ for automembers
Yakman
2009-12-11 22:01:13
<super_> automemberize me plz............
<yakman> i would support super_, he obviously doesnt want any scripts and knows a lot of programming
<yakman> qauters and ruler got members, super_ is up there with them
super_ might be useful for srl members since he knows a lot about java, c and many other languages. Although he is from moparisthebest and has the typical attitude from there. It doesnt mean he doesnt help people though.
Method
2009-12-11 22:06:52
Dunno what he'd bring that would be useful, but he's a pretty cool guy. As long as you don't come off as an idiot and you do ask smart questions, he'll generally give a good answer.
Sir R. M8gic1an
2009-12-12 07:03:30
I'm for it.
~RM
n3ss3s
2009-12-12 14:18:37
Dunno what he'd bring that would be useful, but he's a pretty cool guy. As long as you don't come off as an idiot and you do ask smart questions, he'll generally give a good answer.
He seems cool even I don't really know him, and it drives people on if you get punished for stupidity :p
Naike
2009-12-12 20:40:02
OVER MY DEAD BODY.
He's the most annoying people you could have around.
Seriously, if you let him in SRL members, I'll /wrists.
take my word for it, it's a bad idea to let him in.
YoHoJo
2009-12-12 20:44:10
If you mean the user "oksuper_" then:
OH HYELL NAH!Just had an argument with him today.
He needs to show me a DAMN GOOD SCRIPT and fix his attitude before hes got my vote!
Post 37 onwards :
http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53401&page=2
Naike
2009-12-12 21:19:25
Warned him for his language..
Calling people idiots after 3 days visit…?
No thanks.
Wanted
2009-12-12 21:21:43
From: N1ke!
Warned him for his language..
Calling people idiots after 3 days visit…?
No thanks.
I second this, guy is a jerk for no reason what so ever. He's just trolling around because he's bored.
YoHoJo
2009-12-12 21:40:31
Well he's got lots of 'trophies' and is a community member (high ranked) at Mopars (
http://www.moparisthebest.com/smf/index.php/topic,414461.msg3058322.html#msg3058322) And I guess the thinks it gives him the right to shit in everyones' faces and assume he's better than all of us here or something?
Boreas
2009-12-13 02:52:37
I'm trying to read through a thread for its actual content, but all the crap mixed in because of him makes me want to just delete his account.
Wizzup?
2009-12-13 05:41:51
I'm not sure. That thread actually wasn't that bad.
Yes.
Naike
2009-12-13 06:09:38
I don't see why he should take another road then the other members when he acts like an complete jerk..
Seriously, just because he's a good coder doesn't give him any rights to be an ass.
I don't see how, with an attitude that bad, is allowed in, but people which is a lot nicer, and can really script somewhat, is rejected..
mastaraymond
2009-12-13 13:24:02
He acted like a prick.. But he surely wasn't the only one in that thread.
And I disagree with Wizzup. /me votes no.
YoHoJo
2009-12-13 13:29:09
From: Wizzup?
I'm not sure. That thread actually wasn't that bad.
lol, wao.
Mr.Klean
2009-12-13 14:59:09
Pfft, I think the same rule applies, they ask for members, they shouldn't get it. (I think it's the SSRL rule)
Especially if he acts all up on his high horse.
marpis
2009-12-13 15:27:28
Omgno.
WT-Fakawi
2009-12-13 15:29:45
I have asked him to stop his ill tempered behaviour. I am hoping for an answer, but not certain of it. Its just too easy. Certainly for a man of his reputation, there is nothing to gain. This behaviour smells like irl repression/frustration. We have seen this many times before.
It is much more difficult and much more rewarding, to act normal. If he has the knowledge to help us out, then please let him help us out. Be a hero instead of counterproductive. It's too easy to insult young people. He shouldnt be doing this imho.
So, no, sry, unless change of attitude, nope.
WT-Fakawi
2009-12-13 17:29:23
Alright. Granted. He'll try. Soo… we'll try also! Be nice to him, kids. Life is to short! We need all the help we can get. I will announce.
Widget
2009-12-13 17:30:27
Wait, what? I thought we were being split on this
WT-Fakawi
2009-12-13 17:34:15
No no. Knowledge is power. He has agreed to behave…and so do we, no?
EDIT: And by the way, if I don't like it, he's out. Easy enough. But why should he? If he is a hero, show us!
mastaraymond
2009-12-13 17:47:23
From: WT-Fakawi
No no. Knowledge is power. He has agreed to behave…and so do we, no?
EDIT: And by the way, if I don't like it, he's out. Easy enough. But why should he? If he is a hero, show us!
Well, you definitely made him feel like a hero now..
Wanted
2009-12-13 17:49:59
I hope this goes well.
WT-Fakawi
2009-12-13 17:57:20
From: IceFire908
I hope this goes well.
Why shouldn't it? We all become wiser as we grow older. We can work together.
YoHoJo
2009-12-13 19:11:40
I don't get it. This thread is
4 Yes
2 Neutral
8 No (Very strong nos :p)
How come you just let the guy in with us divided like that…?
I'm not gonna cry that much since SRL members isn't that big of a deal….
but him being one is obviously not agreed upon based on this thread.
Did he give you some ub3r h4x WT-Fakawi? :p
From: YoHoJo
I don't get it. This thread is
4 Yes
2 Neutral
8 No (Very strong nos :p)
How come you just let the guy in with us divided like that…?
I'm not gonna cry that much since SRL members isn't that big of a deal….
but him being one is obviously not agreed upon based on this thread.
Did he give you some ub3r h4x WT-Fakawi? :p
Because people don't understand that even though his attitude isn't always the greatest he is a very intelligent person from which we can all benefit.
I don't see why there is even a debate over this. He is a very well know user in the cheating communities and has proved himself numerous times. He can only bring benefit to this community and you people see a problem with that?
Defend your sinking ship instead of repairing it :rolleyes:
YoHoJo
2009-12-13 19:21:49
Okay okay Bebe, I was just wondering…..
Ill give the man a chance, he DID stop arguing the FIRST time I asked, unlike lots of other people on the thread.
And his cups/other neat stuff at mopars ARE impressive.
Yay Super_.
Ruroken
2009-12-13 19:33:24
This is a pretty big wall of text, but I don't think its redundant… I would appreciate it if you would read it, but only if you want to.
Fakawi, I respect you a lot and you've always done good by your community… but this one isn't the greatest of moves.
Yes, working together in the Utopian fantasy is a great goal, but I'm afraid its not looking achievable in this case. This is a scene based around writing smalltime code, for a smalltime game (and I say that with the greatest affection). It's a hobby.
Do we have our "heroes"? Sure, so does every scene from the legitimate players to the PSP hackers. But what makes a hero? Unfortunately, in this scene it apparently comes down to pure technical skills and a "fuck you" attitude. I thought SRL was more than that. I thought a hero was more than that.
I thought a hero was someone who could code well, but who could also take the compliments with grace. A quiet pride, an elegant wisdom, and the skills to back it up. There have been such individuals in this scene, and at the risk of sounding like a suck-up… Fakawi and Wizzup both have demonstrated these traits time and time again. This is why SRL is a rock of a community, relative to the others.
What has always, always separated us from the other communities? Mature leadership. Our "heroes" could usually not only hold down the technical skills like no other, but they did it with class (for the most part). Unpopular decisions were made by the SRL leaders that, at the time were confusing, but inevitably lead to the community's survival. This is why we are still alive, despite our "aging" technology.
I remember watching communities like Fagex, RSBot, etc swap hands, get DDoS'd, get scammed (look at sythe). None of that ever happened to us. Why? I like to think it's because the character was scrutinized just as much, if not more, than the technical skills of any Devs, Mods, Admins etc.
My good friend Sky (Kami), of Tainted Ones, once told me that his community was so successful because he knew who to trust. That is to say, he choose character over technical skill. His inner circle (13- 19 y/o males, not always folks with the highest integrity) refused bribes from ruler and co, and intense pressure from their online buddies. Thats character right there.
If I take Yakman's word for it, and I do, this guy has the technical skills. Thats alright. Hey, maybe he could help us out, do some work in the community. I'd have to be crazy not to be for that.
Then I "met" him.
Yes, I know I can be purposely antagonistic and thats certainly not Mod/Dev/Admin material. I obviously haven't displayed the character and/or technical skills for any of those positions, or I'd have one :p
But neither has this guy. "Automember" implies that the admins have found this guy to fulfill the prerequisites of being an SRL member. I strongly disagree. He feels himself to be the center of the known universe. He reeks of narcissism so strongly I can smell it through my monitor. He has the "fuck you" attitude and all the trimmings of an intellectual pufferfish.
All in all he is no team player, and unless I'm mistaken, this is still a community. Not some tangle of users all tripping over themselves to feed the ego of their false heroes. This guy is egoflopping all over the place, screaming the equivalent of "I FOUGHT IN 'NAM, BLOW ME". Here are some examples of his fine, fine character that he was so kind as to PM me…
From: Intellectual Pufferfish
might i ask, who the fuck do you think you are?
i am far from a psuedo-somebody, much farther than you are to give you an idea, and i retain this status in the entire rs cheating scene, not just moparisthebest. who i am is super_; what i am is superior to you. rather than try and fight a losing battle, you could easily just dropped out and accepted your destined spot in life. to be frank, in the hierarchy of life, i am near the top, you are near the bottom. i actually do not code bots for some game; i'm pretty sure you guys are the ones writing petty scripts for an outdated cheat. also, i find it funny you claim i only code in java… i probably could code in pascal far better than you if i took a day to learn it. don't fret; it's natural for me to be your better. not only that, but you attempt to put me down for being in the runescape scene… uh, excuse me, but where are you? again, don't ever get the clue that you are or ever will be in any way superior to anyone but a neanderthal. i never came here asking for respect; had you done your research, i actually claimed i had no need for more respect. i have earned enough respect from non-idiots… woops, i slipped; i didn't mean to rub it in your face, but, in my defense, you must be sooo accustomed to it. i've done enough work, and claiming i haven't is ignorance. i give respect to those who deserve it… for example, Method is deserving of respect; on the other hand, you are not. let's make a deal: i refrain from doing what i do best, flaming, and you do as you do best, uh… wait, what exactly do you do? what have you ever done? written a few scar scripts? i rest my case… for now.
From: Egoflopper
uhm definitely not; fawaki explained that taking everyone down a notch isn't a proper use of my abilities that i could be using to help out srl. rather than come up with your petty, mediocre assumptions, show respect; even srl's leader knows i could easily take you down.
Who the fuck does this guy think he is? His reality is warped beyond belief! It's textbook narcissistic personality disorder, he lacks each and every hallmark of someone truly worthy of praise or positive affirmation.
That being said, I am in support of letting him be a member as it has already happened. Anything else would be petty at this point. I'm pretty confident he will screw up big again though, so all I ask is at that point, is that he suffer the consequences (also never give him a rank higher than member). Also I will do my level best to play nice with him.
Wanted
2009-12-13 19:52:02
IMO dismembering him after he auto-joins would look really stupid at this point unless he did something to deserve it in the future.
senrath
2009-12-13 19:56:35
From: IceFire908
IMO dismembering him after he auto-joins would look really stupid at this point unless he did something to deserve it in the future.
I agree. Although if he's anything like how people are describing him, then he'll probably screw up badly, soon.
Boreas
2009-12-13 22:00:35
From: Wizzup?
I'm not sure. That thread actually wasn't that bad.
Yes.
I counted 37 out of 78 posts.
The Claw
2009-12-13 22:50:34
That guy really needs to eat 10g shrooms and 20 tabs of acid, that should cure his ego…he seems intellectually intelligent, but not emotionally - making him arrogant and condescending. Not worthy imo.
Sir R. M8gic1an
2009-12-14 01:23:47
All this guy does is exchange mental swords. He will not look at your rank, he will not care about your rank. He will respect those he finds respectful and shit on the face of those he finds to be idiots. Mentally challengy him, even if you lose the challenge, will earn you his respect.
I say this because the other day I walked into #srl on someone's request, only to find that person impotently raging and threatning super. To start with, this was useless as he would just claim he wouldn't care about a ban, making you lose your advantage.
I then talked with the guy. He hasn't been long enough to recognize me as an admin, although I am an op. We had a normal conversation, and I saw much the same attitude as fawk must have seen in the PMs.
I also think we, or at least you, can benefit from the 'bads'. Mental Sword Crossing is something that happens very often when leading positions or leading personalities are in play. Need any proof? The guy's been here a couple of days and the whole SRL seniority already knows about him.
~RM
Naike
2009-12-14 01:31:05
OOoooohhhhh
So kissing ass is the way to go, how could've missed that one.
Conclusion: What's the need of this thread, if the result doesn't matter anyways?
Sir R. M8gic1an
2009-12-14 01:36:14
From: N1ke!
OOoooohhhhh
So kissing ass is the way to go, how could've missed that one.
Conclusion: What's the need of this thread, if the result doesn't matter anyways?
My dear friend, you sometimes are, an idiot.
As I've said, he did not kiss my ass as he did not know my ass was a good one to kiss.
Furthermore, do you really think I can not tell when my ass is being kissed? And lastly, have I ever really allowed my ass to be kissed?
~RM
ZephyrsFury
2009-12-14 03:44:47
Sorry what's all this talk about his attitude about?
The Claw
2009-12-14 06:43:54
From: Rasta Magician
All this guy does is exchange mental swords. He will not look at your rank, he will not care about your rank. He will respect those he finds respectful and shit on the face of those he finds to be idiots. Mentally challengy him, even if you lose the challenge, will earn you his respect.
I say this because the other day I walked into #srl on someone's request, only to find that person impotently raging and threatning super. To start with, this was useless as he would just claim he wouldn't care about a ban, making you lose your advantage.
I then talked with the guy. He hasn't been long enough to recognize me as an admin, although I am an op. We had a normal conversation, and I saw much the same attitude as fawk must have seen in the PMs.
I also think we, or at least you, can benefit from the 'bads'. Mental Sword Crossing is something that happens very often when leading positions or leading personalities are in play. Need any proof? The guy's been here a couple of days and the whole SRL seniority already knows about him.
~RM
Does anyone want his respect? Personally I dont give a fuck. Yeah hes big at other forums, cool story bro, to me hes just some big mouth java dude with a giant ego. Exchange mental swords, all I see is him acting condescending to everyone else except him because he thinks hes top shit. You're right though, the best way to earn respect of people like this is to treat them as equals and rage back - not because they enjoy the thinking part, or because they recognise that you have some brains too, but because it makes you a more defined target for them to rage/vent at, and because it lets them think theyre getting to you.
He's intelligent but not an intellectual, hes a smart ass, and honestly I cant understand why you're treating him with some sort of reverence..
Yes, we have intellectual arguments on the forums between us, but how is that relevant to anything…its not a good thing the whole seniority know about him, the only reason is because hes from another forum and acts like a complete prick to everyone, and because of this topic.
Anyway, this is a pointless argument as pointed out already, but he doesnt deserve respect or the SRL member position - he deserves a few kicks in the face.
Edit - Zeph:
From: YoHoJo
If you mean the user "oksuper_" then:
OH HYELL NAH!
Just had an argument with him today.
He needs to show me a DAMN GOOD SCRIPT and fix his attitude before hes got my vote!
Post 37 onwards :
http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53401&page=2
WT-Fakawi
2009-12-14 06:59:52
Well, this has been done many times before. Mutant, who was infamous for his cussing, PIV that refused to see as as the incarnation of Kaitnieks and had a very ill temper, Ruler, Geno, RsN, Squigglyo, and many more leading players of the cheating scene deserved a place here and where instamembered. Same is valid for leaders of our friendly neighbours, all instamembered.
This will and always will be my (and wizz) decision, whether you like it or not. This is maybe not for the good of the individual, it is for the good of the community and for SRL at large.
We will closely monitor his activity and act accordingly.
From: Bebe
Defend your sinking ship instead of repairing it :rolleyes:
Thank you. Good call!
ZephyrsFury
2009-12-14 08:53:25
Wow serious… wtf….. and wtf is with the auto memberisation…… I'd have auto membered all the junior members before membering him..
Naike
2009-12-14 08:56:23
From: Rasta Magician
My dear friend, you sometimes are, an idiot.
As I've said, he did not kiss my ass as he did not know my ass was a good one to kiss.
Furthermore, do you really think I can not tell when my ass is being kissed? And lastly, have I ever really allowed my ass to be kissed?
~RM
I never meant you.
From: ZephyrsFury
Wow serious… wtf….. and wtf is with the auto memberisation…… I'd have auto membered all the junior members before membering him..
..Apparently he knows Java&C, so he can douche around with all of us until further notice.
From: WT-Fakawi
This will and always will be my (and wizz) decision, whether you like it or not. This is maybe not for the good of the individual, it is for the good of the community and for SRL at large.
I trust your judgement fakawi, but bringing in a douche because he knows Java&C?
He doesn't care about SRL, he stated so himself.
Neither did he post around and get noticed, he asked to get in.
He pissed of people in the matter of 24/hours to get his name known.
If he went by the SRL rules, and was nice and possibly respectful I wouldn't have any trouble at all, but this guy is properly the best fitting opposite of what SRL-Member stands for.
It seems like you've made your choice, not much I can do about it more then respect it…
Bobarkinator
2009-12-14 12:21:34
It seems as though Fawk has insta-membered him because he is a leader at another cheating community, like we do with all leaders and I support that but is he really a leader?
Method
2009-12-14 17:20:40
From: Bobarkinator
It seems as though Fawk has insta-membered him because he is a leader at another cheating community, like we do with all leaders and I support that but is he really a leader?
No, he doesn't "lead" a community. He's just a prominent user over at communities like MITB and Rune-Server.
Wanted
2009-12-14 17:22:24
If you compare him to like solarwind ect.. he's considered a leader and despite his bad first impression he is tending to be helpful so lets just live with it, no sense debating over it anymore.