SRL Archive - Reflection Discussion

I just tried running this little script to help me with a walker:

procedure RecordPos;
var
  TP : Tpoint;
begin
  TP := GetMyPos;
  Writeln('Point('+Inttostr(TP.x)+', '+IntToStr(TP.y)+')');
end;

and got the result:

Point(33554430, 33554430)

I then walked north a bit, and ran it again and got the exact same weird values.

Is reflection down atm?

Reflection is down, it's been down for a while and it's probably never coming back.

Dammit! Ah well, thanks icefire

i wouldn't say its never coming back, but it is currently down

From: bionicle1800
i wouldn't say its never coming back, but it is currently down

method said he was not updating it.

Well, he might choose to do so later. And there are a few (VERY FEW) other people who have the capability to do it, and some others are learning java and trying to learn how… so in the FAR FAR future, its possible.

From: YoHoJo
… there are a few (VERY FEW) other people who have the capability to do it …

really?

.. why dont we just steal from rsbot?

From: Awkwardsaw
.. why dont we just steal from rsbot?

That's been said many many times
1) Idk exactly what that means (do you…?)
2) Supposedly its easier said than done, since no one has done that yet. So 'stealing from rsbot' is probably also hard work….

1) they have the hooks, and im sure someone who knows java can decompile their code and search, which might be easier than looking the in rs server thing :p
2) i shouldnt say how hard/ easy it is, since i dont know much about java :p

From: YoHoJo
That's been said many many times
1) Idk exactly what that means (do you…?)

It means searching the rs.jar file that is packaged with RSBot for the injected accessors, inside of which are the field names (hooks) that it uses.

From: YoHoJo
2) Supposedly its easier said than done, since no one has done that yet. So 'stealing from rsbot' is probably also hard work….

Widget posted a tool to do it that Ben made, and you only need to modify that to make it all happen. It's pretty easy to do if you have learned Java.

From: IceFire908
Reflection is down, it's been down for a while and it's probably never coming back.

im actually learning how to do it so that i can bring it back its going good so far

From: J_Pizzle
im actually learning how to do it so that i can bring it back its going good so far

oh rly? i would be QUITE happy if you did :) radial walking is not working for me atm…

From: IceFire908
Reflection is down, it's been down for a while and it's probably never coming back.

I wouldn't talk too fast ;)

From: N1ke!
I wouldn't talk too fast ;)

It will not come back for a long time. Maybe forever.

Damn RuneTek 5…

From: Method
It means searching the rs.jar file that is packaged with RSBot for the injected accessors, inside of which are the field names (hooks) that it uses.



Widget posted a tool to do it that Ben made, and you only need to modify that to make it all happen. It's pretty easy to do if you have learned Java.

i cant find his post anymore
i did not saved it.

Stealing from RSBot is easy. Anyone can do it, if you want to use reflection atm, find an updater output or break into RSBot's RS.jar.

Then why havent we done it?

From: Simtoon
Then why havent we done it?

Agreed, whats the deal? 150 Rupees to whoever gets it back online

Stealing from RSBOT was how we used to do it before Method made his updater right? We just need someone who's willing…

From: benjaa
Agreed, whats the deal? 150 Rupees to whoever gets it back online

Yeah, clearly nobody wants reflection back - that's why they haven't done it.

Seriously, though, I'd say it's because very few people know Java or about the RuneScape client so nobody has any idea what they would be doing.

From: Method
Yeah, clearly nobody wants reflection back - that's why they haven't done it.

Oh stop being so gloomy. Tons of people want reflection back. I want reflection back, to learn it. That's why i cant fix it, because i want to learn how to use it. If I knew how, I would fix it.

From: bionicle1800
Oh stop being so gloomy. Tons of people want reflection back. I want reflection back, to learn it. That's why i cant fix it, because i want to learn how to use it. If I knew how, I would fix it.

I'm just trying to be realistic given our current circumstances.

Also, using the SCAR side of reflection is quite different from updating it with the correct fields.

From: Method
Yeah, clearly nobody wants reflection back - that's why they haven't done it.

Seriously, though, I'd say it's because very few people know Java or about the RuneScape client so nobody has any idea what they would be doing.

I know some things about java but nothing about the runescape client.

so who the fuck gave people the idea that JNI was 'reflection'?

From: oksuper_
so who the fuck gave people the idea that JNI was 'reflection'?

solarwind lmao

  public final int[] getRSNPCIndexArray()
  {
    return hb.B;
  }

  public final RSNPC[] getRSNPCArray()
  {
    return jf.x;
  }

  public final int getRSNPCCount()
  {
    return rp.h;
  }

  public final RSPlayer[] getRSPlayerArray()
  {
    return mn.A;
  }

  public final int[] getRSPlayerIndexArray()
  {
    return to.f;
  }

  public final int getRSPlayerCount()
  {
    return ss.K;
  }

  public final int getBaseX()
  {
    return ok.p;
  }

  public final RSPlayer getMyRSPlayer()
  {
    return sh.j;
  }

  public final int getBaseY()
  {
    return qr.t;
  }

  public final int getPublicChatMode()
  {
    return ae.x;
  }

  public final int getLoopCycle()
  {
    return va.g;
  }

  public final int getSelfInteracting()
  {
    return ok.p;
  }

  public final byte[][][] getGroundByteArray()
  {
    return vn.g;
  }

  public final int getPlane()
  {
    return gn.n;
  }

  public final int getCamPosX()
  {
    return ok.n;
  }

  public final int getCamPosY()
  {
    return hd.V;
  }

  public final int getCamPosZ()
  {
    return te.e;
  }

  public final int getCameraPitch()
  {
    return rr.m;
  }

  public final int getCameraYaw()
  {
    return ij.c;
  }

  public final Rectangle[] getRSInterfaceBoundsArray()
  {
    return r.b;
  }

  public final boolean[] getValidRSInterfaceArray()
  {
    return pr.S;
  }

  public final String getCurrentUsername()
  {
    return ag.H;
  }

  public final String getCurrentPassword()
  {
    return le.d;
  }

  public final Mouse getMouse()
  {
    return rf.W;
  }

  public final Keyboard getKeyboard()
  {
    return pd.f;
  }

  public final MouseWheel getMouseWheel()
  {
    return ld.c;
  }

  public final Callback getCallback()
  {
    return callback;
  }

  public final void setCallback(Callback arg0)
  {
    callback = arg0;
  }

  public final int getLoginIndex()
  {
    return ho.J;
  }

  public final int[] getSkillExperiencesMax()
  {
    return lt.u;
  }

  public final int getMinimapScale()
  {
    return li.r;
  }

  public final int[] getCURVECOS()
  {
    return an.s;
  }

  public final int[] getCURVESIN()
  {
    return an.m;
  }

  public final int getMinimapSetting()
  {
    return sj.N;
  }

  public final int getMinimapAngle()
  {
    return nt.b;
  }

  public final float getMinimapOffset()
  {
    return wi.K;
  }

  public final boolean isSpellSelected()
  {
    return et.u;
  }

  public final int isItemSelected()
  {
    return nf.r;
  }

  public final String getSelectedItemName()
  {
    return bi.r;
  }

  public final NodeCache getRSItemNodeCache()
  {
    return tf.m;
  }

  public final StatusNodeList getRSInteractingDefList()
  {
    return gi.h;
  }

  public final RSGround[][][] getRSGroundArray()
  {
    return bf.o;
  }

  public final int getMenuOptionsCount()
  {
    return lt.w;
  }

  public final boolean isMenuOpen()
  {
    return di.B;
  }

  public final int getMenuX()
  {
    return et.m;
  }

  public final int getMenuY()
  {
    return bu.G;
  }

  public final NodeList getActionDataList()
  {
    return ui.k;
  }

  public final Signlink getSignlink()
  {
    return tj.d;
  }

  public final boolean isFlagged()
  {
    return o.k;
  }

  public final RSItemDefFactory getRSItemDefFactory()
  {
    return pc.P;
  }

  public final int getDestX()
  {
    return kg.P;
  }

  public final int getDestY()
  {
    return ea.a;
  }

  public final TileData[] getTileData()
  {
    return mt.I;
  }

  public final DetailInfo getDetailInfo()
  {
    return ke.b;
  }

  public final RSGroundData[] getRSGroundDataArray()
  {
    return ol.W;
  }

  public final String[] getChatMessages()
  {
    return qd.b;
  }

  public final String[] getChatNames()
  {
    return qd.b;
  }

  public final int[] getChatTypes()
  {
    return rt.a;
  }

  public final int[] getSkillLevels()
  {
    return uo.j;
  }

  public final int[] getSkillExperiences()
  {
    return es.a;
  }

  public final int[] getSkillLevelMaxes()
  {
    return ig.F;
  }

  public final Settings getSettingArray()
  {
    return mu.c;
  }

  public final NodeCache getRSInterfaceNC()
  {
    return ba.g;
  }

  public final int getGUIRSInterfaceIndex()
  {
    return ub.n;
  }

  public final RSInterface[][] getRSInterfaceCache()
  {
    return hh.f;
  }
}

here are some hooks for you guys they are from RSBOT gl

@pizzle Not that simple http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51534&page=2

i never said it was that simple lol butt hey said that they used to steal them from rsbot so if they want to try and figure out what they mean there they are for them to try

@Simtoon (spam post) Why dont YOU do it? People are too lazy/dont care/dont know how.
@benjaa same as above (but your post wasn't as spam-y and you just got back recently so I'll leave you alone)
@wesleyxD Spam :p
@OkSuper_ Don't cuss

From: YoHoJo
@Simtoon (spam post) Why dont YOU do it? People are too lazy/dont care/dont know how.
@benjaa same as above (but your post wasn't as spam-y and you just got back recently so I'll leave you alone)
@wesleyxD Spam :p
@OkSuper_ Don't cuss

wtf spam i was telling something.

I know some things about java but nothing about the runescape client.

:p Whats the point? kekeke
I'm just messing with you, lets get back on topic now.

From: YoHoJo
:p Whats the point? kekeke
I'm just messing with you, lets get back on topic now.

well maybe somebody respond and want to explain me some things about the client.

www.moparisthebest.com is the place for that dude. Make an account and read up over there, got some amazing things and tuts and information there.

I will rip myself a new asshole if someone, once more, claims stealing hooks from RSBot to be technically hard, idgaf if it's about pride or shit, thats another thing.

N3ss3s I don't understand, if its so easy why haven't u done it yet?

From: YoHoJo
@Simtoon (spam post) Why dont YOU do it? People are too lazy/dont care/dont know how.
@benjaa same as above (but your post wasn't as spam-y and you just got back recently so I'll leave you alone)
@wesleyxD Spam :p
@OkSuper_ Don't cuss

rofl… and why should't i use my own vocabulary? if you aren't accustomed to cursing them perhaps you should go outside, maybe even turn on a tv, or *gasps* browse the internet. what, are you 9 years-old?

From: IceFire908
N3ss3s I don't understand, if its so easy why haven't u done it yet?

isn't it apparent? he can't code, nor will he ever learn how to code.

oksuper_ great attitude BITCH.
I'm 18, and I am accustomed to cussing.

1) Don't double post, use the edit button. I merged your posts for you.
2) Don't insult people.
3) Don't be an ass. Of course I know what cussing is. It's just nicer to not cuss and use your big boy words instead.
I know you use of the word wasn't very offensive, but its better to just not use it please.

From: YoHoJo
oksuper_ great attitude BITCH.
I'm 18, and I am accustomed to cussing.

1) Don't double post, use the edit button. I merged your posts for you.
2) Don't insult people.
3) Don't be an ass. Of course I know what cussing is. It's just nicer to not cuss and use your big boy words instead.
I know you use of the word wasn't very offensive, but its better to just not use it please.

thanks for the comment. sadly, i will not take it to heart.

1) this has always confused me… what is the big deal about double posting? personal annoyance? if so, then this forums excessive gif 'awards' are much more annoying.
2) i'll insult as i feel fit, thank you.
3) a repeat of point #2? a shame; i was hoping for at least some obstacles. the point is cursing isn't bad and even attempting to censor it is like trying to give freedom to the USSR. i don't see why such a threatened response was necessary… i don't care enough about the pitiful instated guidelines so i'll just attempt to curse as infrequent as i am content; in my defense, the idiocy levels around here make it very hard to avoid.

lets not forget that it is against the forum RULES to use foul language…
as is double posting, insulting members, and it's not against the rules, but it's just plain silly to argue inflamitorily with a mod =/

First, are you Super_ from RSCB?

Second, Call down. There are 4 gifs, and the largest movement on is the globe, and thats not bad.

From: oksuper_
thanks for the comment. sadly, i will not take it to heart.

1) this has always confused me… what is the big deal about double posting? personal annoyance? if so, then this forums excessive gif 'awards' are much more annoying.
2) i'll insult as i feel fit, thank you.
3) a repeat of point #2? a shame; i was hoping for at least some obstacles. the point is cursing isn't bad and even attempting to censor it is like trying to give freedom to the USSR. i don't see why such a threatened response was necessary… i don't care enough about the pitiful instated guidelines so i'll just attempt to curse as infrequent as i am content; in my defense, the idiocy levels around here make it very hard to avoid.

Too bad Yohojo is simply enforcing the rules. If you can't handle them, get out.

Don't pull a whole "SRL is a dictatorship" thing either: every site, everything has rules that the community is supposed to follow.

I'm just a mod enforcing the forum rules. Follow them, or get warned/infracted/banned.

It's not hard not to cuss.
I'ts not hard to be nice.
I'ts not hard to edit a post.
I'ts just a general rule at pretty much every forum to not double post, and edit your last one. Its only one more mouse click than double posting.

Also about the gifs
1) If you hate them so much, adblock them.https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865
2) If someone was to double post, you would see 2X the gifs. If they edited their post, you wouldn't.

This forum has rules to keep it organized and clean. Read them, follow them. People like you who dont follow the rules create all of this hubbub, and rudeness, and argumentation, etc.

So how about this. Lets all stop arguing, and follow the rules, and move on. No more talk about this, well leave it in the past.

woah so many responses
so i think we've established that reflection is simple for an experienced scripter, but apparently the people with the knowledge dont want it back badly enough to take time out to do it..

ontopic/offtopic - nice work yohojo, doin your job

oksuper_ if you could do us a favor?? please stop posting on any of my threads.

@YoHoJo: All i could do..

What ever i commented i could find.

//------------------------------------------------------------------\\
//--             Scar Non-Standard Resource Library               --||
//--                   Reflection Routines - Hooks               --||
//------------------------------------------------------------------//


const
  // Build number
  RSBuild = 566;

  // NPC
  NPCDef = 'Tc';

  // Player
  CharName = 'Zc';
  CharLevel = 'Lc';

  // Client
{  NPCIndexArray = 'hb.B';
  NPCArray = 'jf.x';
  NPCCount = 'rp.h';

  PlayerIndexArray = 'to.f';
  PlayerArray = 'mn.A';
  PlayerCount = 'ss.K';
  MyPlayer = 'sh.j';

  BaseX = 'ok.p';
  BaseY = 'qr.t';

  LoopCycle = 'va.g'; }

  GroundHeights = 'vk.h';
  GroundSettings = 'ac.n';
  BaseLayer = 'ao.n';
{
  CamX = 'ok.n';
  CamY = 'hd.V';
  CamZ = 'te.e';
  CamPitch = 'rr.m';
  CamYaw = 'ij.c';

  LoginIndex = 'ho.J';

  SettingsArray = 'mu.c'; }

  IsMembers = 'null.null';
  {
  MaxLevels = 'ig.F'; }
  CurrentLevels = 'bo.P';
  Experiences = 'so.F';

  MapOffsetAngle = 'ej.h';
  CompassAngle = 'gl.g';
 {
  ChatMessages = 'qd.b';
  ChatTypes = 'rt.a';
  ChatNames = 'qd.b';

  MenuOptionsCount = 'lt.w';
  MenuOpen = 'di.B';
  MenuX = 'et.m';
  MenuY = 'bu.G';  }
  MenuOption = 'p';
  MenuAction = 'w';

  SelectedItemName = 'null.null';

  FlagX = 'ba.h';
  FlagY = 'cg.f';

  // Character
  CharAnim = 'Eb';
  CharMotion = 'tc';
  CurrentX = 'r';
  CurrentY = 'u';
  LoopCycleStatus = 'Zb';
  CharHPRatio = 'Lb';
  CharHeight = 'pb';
  TurnDirection = 'cc';
  CharInteracting = 'Pb';

  SelfInteracting = 'dn.H';

  // NPCDef
  NPCName = 'I';
  NPCType = 'U';
  NPCLevel = 's';

  // Ground Item Finding
  GroundItemArray = 'null.null';
  GroundItemHead = 'null';
  NextGroundItem = 'd';
  GroundItem = 'null';
  GroundItemID = 'null';
  GroundItemStackSize = 'null';

  GroundArray = 'rg.G';

  // Object Hooks
  Object1 = 'null';
  Object2 = 'null';
  Object3 = 'null';
  Object4 = 'null';
  Object5Array = 'null';

  ObjectUID1 = 'null';
  ObjectUID2 = 'null';
  ObjectUID3 = 'null';
  ObjectUID4 = 'null';
  ObjectUID5 = 'null';

  // Interface Hooks
  // General
{  InterfaceCache = 'hh.f';
  }
  ValidInterfaceArray = 'cs.k';
  InterfaceChildren = 'kb';
  InterfaceText = 'null';
  TextColor = 'null';
  SelectedModelID = 'null';
  NotSelectedModelID = 'null';
  SelectedModelType = 'null';
  NotSelectedModelType = 'null';
  ModelZoom = 'Db';

  // Bank
  BankItemID = 'qc';
  BankItemStackSize = 'Ac';
  BankItemName = 'cb';
  BankItemIndex = 'ed';

  // Inventory
  InventoryItemIDs = 'null';
  InventoryItemStackSizes = 'null';

  // Ground Data
  GroundDataArray = 'as.m';
  GroundDataBlocks = 'n';

Sweet job simtoon, some of the devs/people are working on stuff like this. Were all trying to get educated on how to get stuff fixed/working again… Things seem to be looking up. Many people are getting their own hooks now, but im just confused on what the next step is after that (ex after finishing filling in the reflection hook scar file, what else needs to be done?)

The Include needs updating.

From: Simtoon
The Include needs updating.

Like what exactly tough? What would be next step after updating hooks?

From: YoHoJo
Like what exactly tough? What would be next step after updating hooks?

Fixing the tiletoms calculation as well as the algorithms for accessing items, objects, menu items, and whatever else is broken.

Method, I dont understand how all of that breaks?
Does it all break after each runescape update? They seem like things that would be static?

Please explain or give an example of a "retrieval algorithm" ? (I don't have reflection installed)

From: YoHoJo
Method, I dont understand how all of that breaks?
Does it all break after each runescape update? They seem like things that would be static?

Please explain or give an example of a "retrieval algorithm" ? (I don't have reflection installed)

No, the tiletoms calculation was the same for quite a long time, until the rt5 update. Now it's different from before, but it will likely stay the same until the next engine update. The fields involved in it change names from client build to build, but they are the same fields.

As for your second question, I was just generalizing the way things like items, objects, menu items, and other things are retrieved from the client during runtime. For instance, the menu option and action hooks are encapsulated in a class (which in turn is stored in a list) instead of being stored in String arrays like they were previously.

I think it only breaks if alot has been updated..

Like the RuneTek 5 update.

From: Infantry001
Too bad Yohojo is simply enforcing the rules. If you can't handle them, get out.

Don't pull a whole "SRL is a dictatorship" thing either: every site, everything has rules that the community is supposed to follow.

aww you're so cute. oh, haha, i'm lying… you're actually an idiot.

From: MylesMadness
First, are you Super_ from RSCB?

Second, Call down. There are 4 gifs, and the largest movement on is the globe, and thats not bad.

does it matter?

From: benjaa
woah so many responses
so i think we've established that reflection is simple for an experienced scripter, but apparently the people with the knowledge dont want it back badly enough to take time out to do it..

ontopic/offtopic - nice work yohojo, doin your job

oksuper_ if you could do us a favor?? please stop posting on any of my threads.

could you do me a favor? how about you learn who you are, and then who i am, and then realize that arguing is futile.

notice: i'm complying to your demands.

From: N1ke!
Dear oksuper_,

You have received a warning at SRL-Forums.

Reason:
——-
Inappropriate Language

Don't use that kind of language on these forums, thanks.

I remind you to read the rules, as one of our moderators already advised you to.
——-

Original Post:
[post]665096[/post]

From: Infantry001
Too bad Yohojo is simply enforcing the rules. If you can't handle them, get out.

Don't pull a whole "SRL is a dictatorship" thing either: every site, everything has rules that the community is supposed to follow.

aww you're so cute. oh, haha, i'm lying… you're actually an idiot.

From: MylesMadness
First, are you Super_ from RSCB?

Second, Call down. There are 4 gifs, and the largest movement on is the globe, and thats not bad.

does it matter?

From: benjaa
woah so many responses
so i think we've established that reflection is simple for an experienced scripter, but apparently the people with the knowledge dont want it back badly enough to take time out to do it..

ontopic/offtopic - nice work yohojo, doin your job

oksuper_ if you could do us a favor?? please stop posting on any of my threads.

could you do me a favor? how about you learn who you are, and then who i am, and then realize that arguing is futile.

notice: i'm complying to your demands.

Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum's rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.

All the best,
SRL-Forums

could anyone help to point me in the right direction as to where exactly i used inappropriate language in my post?

From: oksuper_

could you do me a favor? how about you learn who you are, and then who i am, and then realize that arguing is futile.

who are you then?

From: J_Pizzle
who are you then?

http://www.moparisthebest.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=352171

From: J_Pizzle
who are you then?

He's a Java(and if you taking mopar's word for it, python, c, c++ as well) pro, life dickhead

From: oksuper_
could anyone help to point me in the right direction as to where exactly i used inappropriate language in my post?

You were probably givin that infraction for being a db for no reason.

From: MylesMadness
He's a Java(and if you taking mopar's word for it, python, c, c++ as well) pro, life dickhead

inappropriate language

you're using language to inappropriately flame and argue with people for no reason.

Can we please get back on topic? If this thread is over, close it, if not, everyone ignore oksuper_.

Well sir if you don't like it here let me show you to the exit

From: oksuper_
inappropriate language

Cool story bro, might read it a second time.

From: Brain
you're using language to inappropriately flame and argue with people for no reason.

Can we please get back on topic? If this thread is over, close it, if not, everyone ignore oksuper_.

my previous post was a joke, however, due to the fact you were apparently dropped on the head as a child, you wouldn't have the mental ability to deduce that. to accomodate for your disability, i'll explain it to you in simple.wikipedia.org-style text:
You are wrong. You are stupid.
and, by the way, your post in no way helped me figure out my inappropriate language.

From: MylesMadness
Cool story bro, might read it a second time.

if your subordinate mind didn't understand, it's poking fun at the, uh, gentlemen, yeah, that's it, who warned me. might i add that using old and abused memes does not help your case at all.

Lol someone is butthurt.

From: IceFire908
Lol someone is butthurt.

s/(Lol )someone( is ) butthurt(.)/\1IceFire908\2fairly incompetent\3/

No one even understands what you are mad about, it's like your PMSing.

If you had a legit concern then maybe you agree there are better ways of expressing it than insulting people by calling them incompetent when you yourself clearly have no self control.

From: IceFire908
No one even understands what you are mad about, it's like your PMSing.

If you had a legit concern then maybe you agree there are better ways of expressing it than insulting people by calling them incompetent when you yourself clearly have no self control.

i'm not mad; i'm just stating facts as they are. if you don't understand them, then you don't understand english, and therefore shouldn't be attempting to use it. i do have a legit concern, however, in regards to the immediate inducement of ADHD by reading this thread. pretty much, some people just can't take it when they are wrong :| it can usually be solved by just no responding and pretending that they are better… which is actually what i propose for anyone attempting to argue with me.

Alright oksuper_ I can see you are respected and have many awards and are a community member at Mopars. That's great, really, good aheivements. But I dont understand why you are here picking fights with everyone and just acting jerkish? And guys, EVERYONE, I said lets get back on topic, everyone just drop it, forget about it, and talk about Reflection stuff.

No crap talks.

From: YoHoJo
EVERYONE, I said lets get back on topic, everyone just drop it, forget about it, and talk about Reflection stuff.

No crap talks.

i agree with this restatement

From: oksuper_
i'm not mad; i'm just stating facts as they are. if you don't understand them, then you don't understand english, and therefore shouldn't be attempting to use it. i do have a legit concern, however, in regards to the immediate inducement of ADHD by reading this thread. pretty much, some people just can't take it when they are wrong :| it can usually be solved by just no responding and pretending that they are better… which is actually what i propose for anyone attempting to argue with me.

Usually in an argument people are debating over something (preferably productive) in your case you come across as an ordinary troll because you have no real purpose in being here other than the enjoyment you seem to gain from insulting other people.

My advice, get out of your chair and go watch TV for half an hour to cool yourself down.

So oksuper_ you seem to be pretty talented in a bunch of programming languages….
How about help us get reflection working! :p :redface:

Yes enlighten us with your divine intervention.

From: IceFire908
Usually in an argument people are debating over something (preferably productive) in your case you come across as an ordinary troll because you have no real purpose in being here other than the enjoyment you seem to gain from insulting other people.

My advice, get out of your chair and go watch TV for half an hour to cool yourself down.

if you want to see trolls, you should check your irc channel lol.

From: oksuper_
could you do me a favor? how about you learn who you are, and then who i am, and then realize that arguing is futile.

You wanna know something funny?

You don't amount to crap in the big picture, mr. java writin' man. Sure, you might be a pseudo-somebody over at Mopar's, but this isn't Mopar's. This is SRL. Hell, you could be the Grand Poobah of any given forum in the larger bot community and not ONE person here would have to listen to a single thing that comes out of your whiny, entitled little mouth. I could take a piss on your head and feel not one repercussion. Is that what you meant when you asked if we knew who you were? Because if so, rest assured… we know.

Why? You code for some java bots for a game that most 14 year old's think to be kiddie shit. Acting like that should earn you much respect in this community (never mind the rest of the real world) is going to get you infracted and verbally abused. Hell, I'll do it myself, with a giant grin on my face.

The thing is, respect is earned, not immediately given. And you seem to be a guy who's not earnin' very well (or giving any… at all). So, I mean, keep it up. See how fast you can get infracted into oblivion. Make my day. Unless you want to take your paper crown off and actually do a bit of work, sire.

Get some perspective, your a stranger in a strange land. This is our house, so you play by our rules. Got it?

Although I semi-agree with what yo said Rouken it was a bit harsh dude :p. Calm down a little. Also, I said many times to drop it, that wasn't necessary. I do understand you angry at him though but yeah, its over, and taken care of.

oksuper_ dont mind that post :p, and dont reply to it please, it will just rekindle the arguments again….

From: YoHoJo
Although I semi-agree with what yo said Rouken it was a bit harsh dude :p. Calm down a little. Also, I said many times to drop it, that wasn't necessary. I do understand you angry at him though but yeah, its over, and taken care of.

I'm not angry at him at all, you just gotta smack em harder than need be. They learn quicker that way.

oksuper_ dont mind that post :p, and dont reply to it please, it will just rekindle the arguments again….

Yeah man, listen to YoHoJo, he's a friendly guy. He just wants whats best for you.

Yeah man, listen to YoHoJo, he's a friendly guy. He just wants whats best for you.

-.- Saying that is going to aggravate him more/wasn't necessary
Whatever, back to reflection and whatnot. I gotta go study nao. Play Nice!

Omg, wth, this is the most offtrack thread ever now.. and Oksuper, you really need to get a life

youre like those guys who sit on youtube all day trolling cos your mother and father beat you as a child..

seriously, noone cares about mopar, if you want respect, release something good HERE, or just go back to mopar.

peace out,

benjaa I've said it many times, lets just DROP IT! Your not helping us get back on track :p, and I've said lets stop the arguing about 3 times already!

Sorry yohojo… Just expressing my opinion on my thread… That's all :)

So I've established reflection is down..you can probs close this thread now..

From: benjaa

So I've established reflection is down..you can probs close this thread now..

lol'd :D And ok, if anyone has any more questions, just make another thread, we need a fresh new one anyways. And things are looking up as far as reflection goes so far :D.