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Thats it, Im giving DDTM ONE last try. I wanted to script the "right" way and use DDTM-RadialWalkTolerance-Then Symbol finding as a final fail safe. If it does not work out, I may as well quit learning it and stop wasting my time.

Just one question: DDTM or RadialWalkTolerance? You dont need post which is faster, shorter, or whatever. Although knowing how accurate each one is comparared to each other at this time would help.

DDTM is used mostly for building tbh. :) id go for radial walk tolerance, then ddtms

I have never used DDTM's for walking, EVER. Its radial walk or symbol walk all-the-way :)

I use DDTM's to see if we are in the right spot.

DDTM's are the most accurate way of walking in cases with unique shapes and/or colors. I prefer TPA walking for pretty much everything :)

DDTM is mostly (if not only) for road walking in my opinion. There ins't a range where it searches for the color and it could click anywhere in the MM where similar colors are. Just forget about DDTMs. I told you use RadialWalkTolerance.

Last try, same result. Scar clicked north on the compass, Which set my Result := True.

program WalkOutOfVarrock;
{.include SRL/SRL.scar}

var
  DDTMTolerance : Integer;

function SetDDTM: Integer;
var
  dtmMainPoint: TDTMPointDef;
  dtmSubPoints: Array [0..3] of TDTMPointDef;
  TempTDTM: TDTM;
  RoadColor : Integer;
begin
  RoadColor := FindVarrockRoadColor;
  dtmMainPoint.x := 905;
  dtmMainPoint.y := 241;
  dtmMainPoint.AreaSize := 1;
  dtmMainPoint.AreaShape := 0;
  dtmMainPoint.Color := RoadColor;
  dtmMainPoint.Tolerance := 0;

  dtmSubPoints[0].x := 905;
  dtmSubPoints[0].y := 241;
  dtmSubPoints[0].AreaSize := 1;
  dtmSubPoints[0].AreaShape := 0;
  dtmSubPoints[0].Color := RoadColor;
  dtmSubPoints[0].Tolerance := 0;

  dtmSubPoints[1].x := 905;
  dtmSubPoints[1].y := 230;
  dtmSubPoints[1].AreaSize := 1;
  dtmSubPoints[1].AreaShape := 0;
  dtmSubPoints[1].Color := RoadColor;
  dtmSubPoints[1].Tolerance := 0;

  dtmSubPoints[2].x := 905;
  dtmSubPoints[2].y := 250;
  dtmSubPoints[2].AreaSize := 1;
  dtmSubPoints[2].AreaShape := 0;
  dtmSubPoints[2].Color := RoadColor;
  dtmSubPoints[2].Tolerance := 0;

  dtmSubPoints[3].x := 901;
  dtmSubPoints[3].y := 239;
  dtmSubPoints[3].AreaSize := 1;
  dtmSubPoints[3].AreaShape := 0;
  dtmSubPoints[3].Color := RoadColor;
  dtmSubPoints[3].Tolerance := 0;

  TempTDTM.MainPoint := dtmMainPoint;
  TempTDTM.SubPoints := dtmSubPoints;
  Result := AddDTM(TempTDTM);
end;

Function WalkOutOfBank : Boolean;
var
  x, y, DDTM : Integer;
begin
  if not LoggedIn then Exit;
  SetRun(True);
  DDTM := SetDDTM
  DDTMTolerance := 5
  repeat
  if not DTMRotated(DDTM, x, y, MMX1, MMY1, MMX2, MMY2) then
  begin
    IncEx(DDTM, 5);
    Writeln('DDTM Tolerance Increased by 5, It is now ... '+IntToStr(DDTMTolerance));
    FreeDTM(DDTM);
    DDTM := SetDDTM;
  end else
  begin
    Mouse(x, y, 4, 4, true);
    Writeln('Found DDTM clicking on Point now');
    Result := True;
    Wait(500);
    Break;
  end;
  until DDTMTolerance >= 50;
  DDTM := SetDDTM;
  DDTMTolerance := 5;
end;

begin
  SetupSRL;
  ClearDebug;
  ActivateClient;
  Wait(100+Random(1000));
  MakeCompass('w');
  if WalkOutOfBank then
    Writeln('Walked out of bank')
  else
    Writeln('I give up GG');
end.

I didn't put much effort into it as I would, but no mistakes were made to my knowledge in making it. GG. DDTM := Not used for me.

begin
RadialWalkTolerance := 100;
DDTM := -100;
if (RadialWalkTolerance > DDTM) then
Writeln('RadialWalkTolerance Wins')
else
Writeln('H@x');
end.

From: Blumblebee
DDTM's are the most accurate way of walking in cases with unique shapes and/or colors. I prefer TPA walking for pretty much everything :)

Kinda like FindColorsTol(…) FilterPointPie(…) MiddleTpa(…) sorta?

From: MylesMadness
Kinda like FindColorsTol(…) FilterPointPie(…) MiddleTpa(…) sorta?

you got it. I'm actually not a big fan of FilterpointsPie anymore, you can sort the colors just fine without skipping areas, FindColorSkipBox works just fine. TPA walking just gives your more flexibility than that of RadialWalk imo, and realistically its not that much more difficult.

This is a simple RadialWalkTolerance function I used not too long ago, Made it in less then 3 minutes.

program New;
{.include SRL/SRL.scar}

Function WalkOutOfVarrockBank : Boolean;
var
  x, y : Integer;
begin
  MakeCompass('w');
  if RadialWalkTolerance(FindVarrockRoadColor, 326, 346, 48, 1, 1, 15) then
  begin
    Writeln('Found RadialWalkTolerance Area') ;
    Result := True;
  end else
  Writeln('Did Not Find RadialWalkTolerance Area');
end;

begin
  SetupSRL;
  ClearDebug;
  ActivateClient;
  begin
    Wait(100+Random(1000));
    if WalkOutOfVarrockBank then
      Writeln('Walked out of Bank')
    else
      Writeln('Did not Walk out of Bank');
  end;
end.

Didn't take my time on it, but it worked perfectly and much better / easier / shorter then DDTM. Ill go with RadialWalkTolerance for now on then DDTM.

RadialWalkTolerance

• + Easy to use
• + Fast
• - Might walk to wrong place if not walking along a road

DDTM

• + The most accurate way to find a certain location
• - Depending on how many subpoints you're using, can be quite slow
• - Takes time and practice to learn how to pick good points, areas and tolerances

Symbol clicking

• + Easy to use
• + Quite reliable in non-crowded places with SymbolAccuracy >0.7
• - Players might hide the symbol
• - SymbolAccuracy 0.6> will easily click the wrong symbol
• - Symbols more randomly from place to place, and clicking it might not take you exactly where you wanted

There isn't one best way to walk. The best walking function is one that uses all methods available. If you're trying to find a bank radialwalk is probably not the way to go. If you're trying to walk straight down along a road you might want to think twice before using DDTMs.

There isn't one best way to walk. The best walking function is one that uses all methods available. If you're trying to find a bank radialwalk is probably not the way to go. If you're trying to walk straight down along a road you might want to think twice before using DDTMs.

But if I want to go hide in a random corner on the edge of the MM and point my compass North Id use DDTM :D

From: Naum
I have never used DDTM's for walking, EVER. Its radial walk or symbol walk all-the-way :)

+1. DDTM's are so slow when walking.
Make an Autocolour :) I dont like the idea of tolerance when radialWalking

I used that on my apply :

-Try with DDTM
-If fail then try RW
-If fail FindSymbol
-If fail approximate click

When you can use something simple, use it, don't go for anything complicated ;).

Good luck.

From: noidea
+1. DDTM's are so slow when walking.
Make an Autocolour :) I dont like the idea of tolerance when radialWalking

Why not? In my opinion Radial Walk with Tolerance is better than Radial Walk. With Radial Walk I couldn't make a nice walking procedure as the colors kept changing after logging out. RadialWalkTolerance solved that problem easily.

You sure your autocoloring with DDTMS is correct? That is one big problem.
Have the script Writeln(IntToStr(RoadColorHere)) to check if its even getting the correct color.

IMO its RRW first, then DDTMs to either check/or for tricky places.
I'm almost done with walk from Varrock east mine to Varrock east bank, its all RRW, a few symbols finds to check where I am, and I might add one DDTM to check where I am/maybe click once.

Don't give up! Walking is a bi*ch!

Fine I wont give up, I wasn't anyway XD.

From: FEAR
Why not? In my opinion Radial Walk with Tolerance is better than Radial Walk. With Radial Walk I couldn't make a nice walking procedure as the colors kept changing after logging out. RadialWalkTolerance solved that problem easily.

Hence why I said "Make an Autocolour "

From: noidea
+1. DDTM's are so slow when walking.

Wrong. They can be quite fast if you have used time to think the subpoint properties right.

From: noidea

Make an Autocolour :) I dont like the idea of tolerance when radialWalking

After RuneTek5 there are way too many colors in the MM. There can be 10+ road colors. The colors also vary more than they used to. Tolerance works just fine when you use it in the right place.

From: marpis
After RuneTek5 there are way too many colors in the MM. There can be 10+ road colors. The colors also vary more than they used to. Tolerance works just fine when you use it in the right place.

FindTreeColor still works. I made that before the RuneTek5 update. If people would work more and think of more than just rgbhslxyz than we would have autocolors. Blumblebee worked on them, but he tells me no one took notice of his work.

From: noidea
FindTreeColor still works. I made that before the RuneTek5 update. If people would work more and think of more than just rgbhslxyz than we would have autocolors. Blumblebee worked on them, but he tells me no one took notice of his work.

I also made a new thread about a new AutoColor from functions Nava made for me, and no one but him seemed to have an opinion.

Omg its Coh3n. Its an Honor to see you post in my thread. God bless you.
-Bows-

From: Heavenguard
Omg its Coh3n. Its an Honor to see you post in my thread. God bless you.
-Bows-

Haha, I've never had anyone say that to me, nor bow. :tongue:

Wow, Surprisingly today, I was just trying DDTM's again, and it works perfectly xD, I wrote the whole script without looking at anything about DDTM's This whole entire week. Everything just made sense! I wonder why, Also, I dont even errors anymore whenever I run scripts, I think my scripting skills are getting up there. DDTM's Are really not that hard XD, as a matter of fact I think its less work then RadialWalking. Its good for those tight spaces as well.

From: Heavenguard
Wow, Surprisingly today, I was just trying DDTM's again, and it works perfectly xD, I wrote the whole script without looking at anything about DDTM's This whole entire week. Everything just made sense! I wonder why, Also, I dont even errors anymore whenever I run scripts, I think my scripting skills are getting up there. DDTM's Are really not that hard XD, as a matter of fact I think its less work then RadialWalking. Its good for those tight spaces as well.

Haha, there's always a point where something just hits you, and you begin to understand things perfectly. Looks like it hit you. ;)

From: Heavenguard
Omg its Coh3n. Its an Honor to see you post in my thread. God bless you.
-Bows-

Hmm.. Never seen such posts aimed at other people that the Fawk and JuKKa.. You're famous Coh3n! ;)

HeavenGuard: Good to hear that you finally got it working! Walking is the one of the hardest things to do in runescape! I haven't actually ever learned DDTMs..

From: Zyt3x
Hmm.. Never seen such posts aimed at other people that the Fawk and JuKKa.. You're famous Coh3n! ;)

Haha, it would appear so. :p

Coh3n is epic sauce!