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I just find it sorta hypocritical that a pyramid scheme #1 (bux.to), isn't allowed in signatures; but another pyramid scheme #2 (lockerz), is allowed. Both have you refer people. For both sites, people put something in their sig saying they can give an invite/refer. What's the difference? In my opinion, BOTH should be DISALLOWED.


This isn't a thread to go "OMFG IT ISN'T A SCAM"; think what you want, but it IS a pyramid scheme for sure. All "make monnies/prizes online!" are pyramid schemes. They might eventually pay you, but it's still a pyramid scheme.

From: Harry
I just find it sorta hypocritical that a pyramid scheme #1 (bux.to), isn't allowed in signatures; but another pyramid scheme #2 (lockerz), is allowed. Both have you refer people. For both sites, people put something in their sig saying they can give an invite/refer. What's the difference? In my opinion, BOTH should be DISALLOWED.


This isn't a thread to go "OMFG IT ISN'T A SCAM"; think what you want, but it IS a pyramid scheme for sure. All "make monnies/prizes online!" are pyramid schemes. They might eventually pay you, but it's still a pyramid scheme.

Its okay harry, we didn't forget you. You don't have to have a cow every week…

Wait, lockerz is allowed in signatures? I thought it wasn't.

From: MylesMadness
Its okay harry, we didn't forget you. You don't have to have a cow every week…

Well that's a useless post…………..

From: senrath
Wait, lockerz is allowed in signatures? I thought it wasn't.

It is, says YoHoJo (and also because it has remained in at least 4 people's signatures, despite me reporting them for it 5 days ago).

They should both be allowed or disallowed but it would prefer if all of these thing wouldn't be allowed because then everyone is having signatures like that and to many useless threads are created… I think there are like 5 lockerz threads now :eek:

Yea i was thinking the same too, but you don't see me making a song and dance about it

The whole point is…
Why do you care?
Why do you care if we are trying to get our pixel points?
If it was something you believed in, you would believe in having it in your signature if needed.
Lockerz is a more fun and friendly site than bux.to
I think of Lockerz as a game more than a task.

T~M

From: The Man
The whole point is…
Why do you care?
Why do you care if we are trying to get our pixel points?
If it was something you believed in, you would believe in having it in your signature if needed.
Lockerz is a more fun and friendly site than bux.to
I think of Lockerz as a game more than a task.

T~M

I care because it is a worthless image that is raping my bandwidth, including the fact you are luring unsmart kids into your pyramids of doom!

There is a difference in "believing in something" and putting it into your signature, rather than advertising a website.

From: Harry
Well that's a useless post…………..

It is, says YoHoJo (and also because it has remained in at least 4 people's signatures, despite me reporting them for it 5 days ago).

This is a useless thread! Let people waste there lives if they use it. I know it works for iphone skins at least, I don't know about anything else

[Offtopic]Do you use FireFox Harry?[/offtopic]

From: MylesMadness
This is a useless thread! Let people waste there lives if they use it. I know it works for iphone skins at least, I don't know about anything else

That is the equivalent of saying "let people waste their lives on bux.to!". Bux.to isn't allowed in signatures, the same should hold true for this site.

From: Harry
That is the equivalent of saying "let people waste their lives on bux.to!". Bux.to isn't allowed in signatures, the same should hold true for this site.

There is a difference lockerz is funded by one of the biggest media company in the US.. not not the same of box.to, i tryed for a long time to earn money on bux.2 didnt get anyway, with lockers i got a ipod.

From: The Man
[Offtopic]Do you use FireFox Harry?[/offtopic]

Yes. If you are implying I could adblock your image, no I can not, as Villavu.com is on my Adblock whitelist.

From: NiCbaZ
There is a difference lockerz is funded by one of the biggest media company in the US.. not not the same of box.to, i tryed for a long time to earn money on bux.2 didnt get anyway, with lockers i got a ipod.

Does it really matter? They are both pyramided….

From: NiCbaZ
There is a difference lockerz is funded by one of the biggest media company in the US.. not not the same of box.to, i tryed for a long time to earn money on bux.2 didnt get anyway, with lockers i got a ipod.

Congrats :)
and Harry answer my question :fiery:

From: The Man
Congrats :)
and Harry answer my question :fiery:

He did. About a minute before you posted this.

From: Harry
Yes. If you are implying I could adblock your image, no I can not, as Villavu.com is on my Adblock whitelist.

Does it really matter? They are both pyramided….

Pyramided means that you wont get "paid". You get payed with lockerz…

Staff already has a thread about it, it will be sorted out soon.

From: MylesMadness
Pyramided means that you wont get "paid". You get payed with lockerz…

No, a lot of pyramid schemes pay out. Bux.to pays out, even though they are a pyramid scheme too.

From: MylesMadness
Pyramided means that you wont get "paid". You get payed with lockerz…

Getting paid != not a pyramid scheme.

An illicit money-making investment scheme whereby early investors are paid primarily or wholly by later investors. Eventually all such schemes fail to the detriment of recent (later) investors

Of course, I'm not saying that lockerz is a pyramid scheme, as I haven't looked into it at all.

Edit: Ninja'd.

Harry :)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5613

From: MylesMadness
Pyramided means that you wont get "paid". You get payed with lockerz…

ROFL Stupid :p!
Pyramid means ONE person refers OTHER to the site. It as nothing to do with getting paid, man you made me lol!

You
/ \
Ref Person Ref Person
/ \ / \
Ref Person Ref Person Ref Person Ref Person

PRYAMID See?!
http://www.unc.edu/courses/2009spring/law/357c/001/intadvertising/images/Pyramid.jpg
http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/4610885/pyramidscheme_Full.jpg

Um, ill let everyone speak a bit more, and then this will be closed since its just gonna turn into a big ol argument. :D

Like I said, the staff is sorting this out, a thread was made today about it.

From: The Man
Harry :)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5613

Why should I need to waste my time with installing yet another addon, when the problem could be fixed instead?

Because, only you are complaining.
We want them, you don't
Fix it yourself by not seeing it yourself.

I don't think it should be allowed. I agree all on all of Harry's points. You all are trying to justify having it in your sig by saying that it really does pay. That is beside the point. We didn't allow bux.to because it was referring people. Lockerz is also referring people, therefore shouldn't be allowed.

What makes you guys think it would be allowed?
It isn't. It's the same kind of stuff as bux.to, etc.

EDIT: Opened.

Cool. So remove it from your siggies please guys ^^

Public announcement?

From: Bobarkinator
Public announcement?

I see no reason to. It wasn't allowed, and it still isn't. People having it in their signatures will receive an infraction or worse.

First, God damn, harry is a whiny little bitch.

Second, I don't think this retard knows what a pyramid scheme is. he needs to google it.

third, i think i provided him with more than enough proof that it is legit.

If its against the rules, remove it from your sigs, so harry can stop crying please.

From: Wizzup?
I see no reason to. It wasn't allowed, and it still isn't. People having it in their signatures will receive an infraction or worse.

Unfair. I said I believed it was ok, so people may keep it based on that. Although its true the rules haven't changed I may have caused a misunderstanding. Warning ONLY, or announcement please.

@Charmz
1) Be nice please.
2) No matter what it is, it IS 'click for cash' type of website, which is, and always has been, against the SRL rules. Sorry :/.

From: _ChArMz
First, God damn, harry is a whiny little bitch.

Second, I don't think this retard knows what a pyramid scheme is. he needs to google it.

third, i think i provided him with more than enough proof that it is legit.

If its agaisnt the rules, remove it from your sigs, so harry can stop crying please.

No it's not a pyramid scheme. But BEING LEGIT DOESN'T MATTER IN THIS CASE! That's not what we are arguing about.

From: Wizzup?
People having it in their signatures will receive an infraction or worse.

You know what…
Stuff it, ban me please YoHoJo.
I cannot take any more of this childishness from you Wizzup.
As YoHoJo said, he told people it was fine.
And now you threaten to "ban" people?
If the statement ^ is true.
Please ban me.

From: _ChArMz
First, God damn, harry is a whiny little bitch.

Second, I don't think this retard knows what a pyramid scheme is. he needs to google it.

third, i think i provided him with more than enough proof that it is legit.

If its against the rules, remove it from your sigs, so harry can stop crying please.

tl;dr:

From: The Man
You know what…
Stuff it, ban me please YoHoJo.
I cannot take any more of this childishness from you Wizzup.
As YoHoJo said, he told people it was fine.
And now you threaten to "ban" people?
If the statement ^ is true.
Please ban me.

Childishness? You act like a retard, you disobey the rules, and you are the one having an "illegal" signature.

I find it ridiculous how you turn an Infraction into a Ban.

From: Wizzup?
Childishness? You act like a retard, you disobey the rules, and you are the one having an "illegal" signature.

I find it ridiculous how you turn in Infraction into a Ban.

So obeying your "handpicked" mods is me acting like a retard?
I find it ridiculous how you can't read your own writing…

From: Wizzup?
People having it in their signatures will receive an infraction or worse.

Hmm, I wonder what the "or worse" bit was…

From: The Man
So obeying your "handpicked" mods is me acting like a retard?
I find it ridiculous how you can't read your own writing…

Hmm, I wonder what the "or worse" bit was…

How do you "Obey" YoHoJo? Did he force you to put that in your signature?
If that is the case, I will remove the Infraction.

Why don't you go and read the rules for once? You obviously take them too lightly; your "cups" tell me enough.

Mods are picked by Staff, democratically.
Dont bring me too into this, I said they were allowed, I was wrong, sorry, read the rules.
Wizzup isnt being childish, he infracted you for not following the rules and having an illegal signature. Big deal?

You broke rule (accidentally).
You get infraction.
End of story, I dont see why your that upset?

From: Wizzup?
How do you "Obey" YoHoJo? Did he force you to put that in your signature?
If that is the case, I will remove the Infraction.

Why don't you go and read the rules for once? You obviously take them too lightly; your "cups" tell me enough.

OK, obey is the wrong word.
But he told us it was fine to have them.
Read the rules?
Nah CBA.
Oh you mean the Donator one?
Yeh I know I really should have thought about that more "/
Oh well.
Or the Old Timer one?
Yeh I really shouldn't have stayed here this long "/
But if you mean the BM one, then that aint a cup "/ sorry.

From: The Man
OK, obey is the wrong word.
But he told us it was fine to have them.
Read the rules?
Nah CBA.
Oh you mean the Donator one?
Yeh I know I really should have thought about that more "/
Oh well.
Or the Old Timer one?
Yeh I really shouldn't have stayed here this long "/
But if you mean the BM one, then that aint a cup "/ sorry.

Right. That's it. See you in a month.

bye
wait can you make it a month and a half?

Broke Rule. Infraction. Expires. All Better.
Stop the back-and-froths NAO! Grow up guise.

This is what happens when you play the 'referral for personal gain' game.

I do think that The Man should have read the rules, yes. But more so, I believe that the higher staff should stand behind the decisions that the other staff make. I think that the signatures should be temporarily pardoned until everybody knows for sure. Anyways, I guess will make the best decision.

Mm, you always have to escalate a rather minor manner and it rewarded you with a ban..
I would have just removed the picture from my signature, accepted the infraction, and got on with my life.
The Man, what you said about reading the rules was pretty ignorant.
You should always read the rules when you join a community or anything of the sorts.
That way, you don't get into predicaments like this.
Wizzup, you really should have talked to YoHoJo, because he is a part of your staff after all, and you are responsible for your staff.

He didnt get banned for the sig alone. He got banned for being extremely belligerent with staff. If he just stopped arguing Wizzup was even going to remove the infraction and leave him with a ban.

From: Wizzup?
H
If that is the case, I will remove the Infraction.

The ban is all his own fault sorry to say.

No more talk about that, get back ON TOPIC. Which really doesn't matter anymore since the question is solved.

Are lockerz posts/sig links allowed?:NO!

From: Sex

Wizzup, you really should have talked to YoHoJo, because he is a part of your staff after all, and you are responsible for your staff.

Hes not my mom. Not is he anyone on the staff's mom. No is his a mom.
The Man/I should have really read the rules. This has nothing to do with Wizzup.
I incorrectly informed him, sorry about that.
But HE's the one who argued with Staff and wouldn't stop, which resulted in his ban.

Is lockerz a ""Click Cash"" website? (double quotes as the quote has quotes in it)
Just curious, as that is what is says directly in the rules…
What is defined as a "Click Cash" website?

You go, answer a question (usually not survey-like) like, what your fav movie/music, what is you dream car, what are you doing for Halloween ect ect. And you get 2 points. Enough points get you stuff. But im90% sure eventually after site is popular enough itll turn into some homo ad-fest thing :p.

Well that is different than bux.to, when you look at ads for 30 seconds or something?

I think the rule in the official rule post should be amended to "referral for profit" websites, instead of "click cash" websites.

Yeah its just assumed sites such as lockerz ect are not allowed, it should be worded better. Thanks. :p

From: Bobarkinator
I believe that the higher staff should stand behind the decisions that the other staff make. I think that the signatures should be temporarily pardoned until everybody knows for sure.

I concur… to bad its too late.

@ Harry /golfclap
Next time you want to bring a issue up I suggest a more private forum or maybe a PM? This thread screams "whining" all over it to me, although it was a good question.

While I see that The Man should have been banned for other reasons, he shouldn't have been infracted because he got "permission" from staff.

Posting "Click Cash" ads/referrals. It is unwelcome here! Will result in 10 day temp ban for thread advertisements, infraction for siggy ads.

Bux.to is a click cash program which you would put a referral link in your sig.

Lockerz is a program where you answer simples questions and you just ask people in your sig if they want an invite and if they do they just send you a pm with their email.

So why is Lockerz not allowed in sigs?

exactly TRiLeZ, that's why I was asking for more clarified rules the little change with that rule, to make it more broad.
I'm not trying to defend anyone, just trying to make the rules clear.


edit:
(I didn't mean to imply that we needed completely more clarified rules, just a higher distinction on that one)

It's still no different from 'advertising'.

Asking if people want an invite isn't really advertisement.

From: TRiLeZ
Asking if people want an invite isn't really advertisement.

Its annoying to people. Its a 'rewards' site. Its just for you benefit. Invites=Points for inviter. Don't try to make it sound like your being nice :p. And rules are rules, we don't want it, you cant do it, I'm sorry.
Its advertising

ad·ver·tise (dvr-tz)
v. ad·ver·tised, ad·ver·tis·ing, ad·ver·tis·es
v.tr.
1. To make public announcement of, especially to proclaim the qualities or advantages of (a product or business) so as to increase sales. See Synonyms at announce.
2. To make known; call attention to: advertised my intention to resign.
3. To warn or notify: "This event advertises me that there is such a fact as death" (Henry David Thoreau).
v.intr.

:p
SRL just isnt into 'those kind of sites' being advertisedput in sigs and made threads about.

Lockerz is an invite only website though.

Oh well, I guess people wanting to invite people must find / ask for their email and send em invites. :p

Lockerz invites goes under spammed advertisements I guess because if it's in your sig, it goes everywhere.

From: Harry
I care because it is a worthless image that is raping my bandwidth, including the fact you are luring unsmart kids into your pyramids of doom!

There is a difference in "believing in something" and putting it into your signature, rather than advertising a website.

You're raping everyone's bandwith with this useless post.

From: Shady?
You're raping everyone's bandwith with this useless post.

Unnecessary. :/ Even if you were jk.

From: Harry
I care because it is a worthless image that is raping my bandwidth, including the fact you are luring unsmart kids into your pyramids of doom!

There is a difference in "believing in something" and putting it into your signature, rather than advertising a website.

If you worried about a jpeg breaking your bandwidth your retarded.

From: Harry
tl;dr:

You sir are more idiotic then I thought. Take things seriously and stop whining god damn it. Maybe we should all make a thread whining against your 4chan crap.

But yeah I guess the rules are the rules…

Alright thats enough, you last 3 flamers are immature. Especially the last two, I JUST told Shady Unnecessary. :/ Even if you were jk. what the hell makes you think its right to just continue on flaming! Leave Harry alone, stick to the topic. Except everything has already been solved.

So closed!

Everyone stop the damn flaming of each other and just me mature.
*sniff* sniff* SRL is uposed to be nice "/.


Lockerz sig/posts are not allowed. It's against the rules.

/Thread!

http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52457

Please don't let me regret this….