SRL Archive - NOTA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLY8HNhVe-g

That was truly the most disturbing video I have ever watched… They are now going to start brain washing our youth? Isn't that how Hitler did it… Indoctrinate the school system??

Come on, whether you are for Obama or not, please at least admit that this is completely wrong to have 7 year old kids chanting.

Edit: title was supposed to be Barrack Hussein Obama, but you can leave it ;)

It isn't like Obama wanted the kids to do that, it was just the idiotic school teachers. :|

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac

Lol, harry potter would be put to death? What kind of brain-washing is that?

From: Harry
It isn't like Obama wanted the kids to do that, it was just the idiotic school teachers. :|

Yep. So many posts saying Obama is bad for that when he had nothing to do with it.

From: Harry
It isn't like Obama wanted the kids to do that, it was just the idiotic school teachers. :|

I never said that Obama made the kids do that (although if he would want them to is a completely different topic). But it is wrong for the teachers to.

For those of you who don't see anything wrong with this (since you probably like Obama if you don't..), what if it was George Bush they were writing songs like these about? I'm sure you wouldn't like it then..

I'm really pro Obama…

Its wrong for any adult, let alone a teacher, push politics/religions down kids throats.

My teachers won't tell the class who they voted for because they don't want to indirectly influence us at all as teens.

From: ZaSz
I'm really pro Obama…

Its wrong for any adult, let alone a teacher, push politics/religions down kids throats.

My teachers won't tell the class who they voted for because they don't want to indirectly influence us at all as teens.

I heard that they aren't allowed to even talk about that stuff (politics/religion).

lol, last year my government teacher (who loved debating) always talked about the elections, and we debated almost every day in his class, who on what side was picked randomly and the winner was picked for who ever had best points, etc. Not really enforcing what he believed, but it was fun :P Also, I go to a private school.

i am also pro-obama but do agree this is too much.

no child should be forced to support a political organization at all.
but its ridiculous when people after watching this video call Obama a "communist" and "this is the behavior a total sociopath has" on you tube meanwhile Obama probably hasn't even seen the video yet

Wow… That is just pathetic. Aren't teachers and staff prohibited to even talk about politics in school, especially anything below high school? That's what it's been like to every school I've gone to. Even in high school and later I believe teachers aren't allowed to express their opinions excessively. As for making little kids sing a song about how Obama is so great? I hope the teacher who forced that down their throats won't be teaching for much longer.

@xiaoina - I haven't read the context of the comments, but there plenty of reasons to call Obama a socialist or communist that don't pertain to the video.

Rofl, epic fail @ the video, but honestly guys, chill out, it's a song for crying out loud… before the children will reach an age at which they will want/be able to vote, they will be able to base their votes on their own opinions, not songs learned in elementary school… (well, at least I hope so… if not, then there is a serious reason to worry about the youth nowadays…) :sasmokin:

From: Tad
@xiaoina - I haven't read the context of the comments, but there plenty of reasons to call Obama a socialist or communist that don't pertain to the video.

I agree to the socialist part (actually a pro arguement for Obama in my opinion), but calling him a "communist" goes a bit too far… simply trying to achieve some econimic justice does not make someone a communist, geez. For exmaple, what's so bad about a nation wide health-care system? quite a lot of people seem to be acting as if it is the killing stroke for capitalism… Hmmm, I really don't want to argue about my political opinion, but as far as I have observed it (by living in the USA for a couple of years and now through various newscasts), most people are waaaaaay too sensitive about any political changes… whatever happened to open-mindedness… example: we in Germany have healthcare for everyone, but guess what? We are founded upon democratic and capitalistic principles, which we have not abandoned… Oh, and while I am at it, techincally, every human should have the basic right to be treated when becomming ill, no matter how much money he or she has avaible.
( the health care plan of Obama is just one example, since it has been going through the news lately… could name various others)

From: Pure1993
Rofl, epic fail @ the video, but honestly guys, chill out, it's a song for crying out loud… before the children will reach an age at which they will want/be able to vote, they will be able to base their votes on their own opinions, not songs learned in elementary school… (well, at least I hope so… if not, then there is a serious reason to worry about the youth nowadays…) :sasmokin:



I agree to the socialist part (actually a pro arguement for Obama in my opinion), but calling him a "communist" goes a bit too far… simply trying to achieve some econimic justice does not make someone a communist, geez. For exmaple, what's so bad about a nation wide health-care system? quite a lot of people seem to be acting as if it is the killing stroke for capitalism… Hmmm, I really don't want to argue about my political opinion, but as far as I have observed it (by living in the USA for a couple of years and now through various newscasts), most people are waaaaaay too sensitive about any political changes… whatever happened to open-mindedness… example: we in Germany have healthcare for everyone, but guess what? We are founded upon democratic and capitalistic principles, which we have not abandoned… Oh, and while I am at it, techincally, every human should have the basic right to be treated when becomming ill, no matter how much money he or she has avaible.
( the health care plan of Obama is just one example, since it has been going through the news lately… could name various others)

First of all, to respond to the health care thing. If people go to a hospital right now with an emergency situation, the hospital legally HAS to treat them. Even if they are illegal immigrants.

On topic, how come kids aren't allowed to sing Christmas carols in school anymore, but are allowed to sing songs talking about how Obama is so great? There is no way to justify that..

Ugh, I wrote two nice, big paragraphs in response and then Xed out by accident -.- I'll summarize

From: Pure1993
Rofl, epic fail @ the video, but honestly guys, chill out, it's a song for crying out loud… before the children will reach an age at which they will want/be able to vote, they will be able to base their votes on their own opinions, not songs learned in elementary school… (well, at least I hope so… if not, then there is a serious reason to worry about the youth nowadays…) :sasmokin:

As JAD stated, "They are now going to start brain washing our youth?". No, it's not Obama brainwashing them, but it's brainwashing them in his favor. First impressions last a lifetime. If they're introduced to Obama as 'Obama is number one!', they're going to think that way for a long, long time. If, for example, someone comes up to one of them and says 'Obama is dumb', they're going to refute because of what that song taught them. They will continue to refute any opposition and it will become etched in their mind that 'Obama is number one'. It would be virtually impossible for them to have level ground when they are old enough to be able to choose which political stance they wish to take. So yes, there is a serious reason to worry about the youth and what they're told, and there always has been.

I agree to the socialist part (actually a pro arguement for Obama in my opinion), but calling him a "communist" goes a bit too far… simply trying to achieve some econimic justice does not make someone a communist, geez. For exmaple, what's so bad about a nation wide health-care system? quite a lot of people seem to be acting as if it is the killing stroke for capitalism… Hmmm, I really don't want to argue about my political opinion, but as far as I have observed it (by living in the USA for a couple of years and now through various newscasts), most people are waaaaaay too sensitive about any political changes… whatever happened to open-mindedness… example: we in Germany have healthcare for everyone, but guess what? We are founded upon democratic and capitalistic principles, which we have not abandoned… Oh, and while I am at it, techincally, every human should have the basic right to be treated when becomming ill, no matter how much money he or she has avaible.
( the health care plan of Obama is just one example, since it has been going through the news lately… could name various others)

I'm not big on politics, so correct me if I'm wrong on any facts.

Capitalism -> Socialism -> Communism

Every step you take leads in a certain direction. If we continue having the government take over running things one by one, then that's the direction we're heading. Universal health care is the first step.

As for the US not being open minded….The US must be doing something right over all these years, seeing as it's the only remaining superpower. Why fix what's not broken (i.e. Input more and more socialism)? Nobody's saying that health care doesn't need fixing; it does, but this is not the solution.

And the right to medical attention - what JAD said. Also, to me it seems as if the major reason people don't have health care is not because they can't afford it, but rather they don't think it's worth it over buying a new TV and keeping that $100/month cable subscription, and later suffer the consequences

Socialism or Capitalism, it does not matter. There both gonna fail any economy.

From: Pure1993
simply trying to achieve some econimic justice does not make someone a communist, geez.

Economic justice? What is just about stealing (taking another person's property by force) from one and giving to another, usually less deserving?

From: Pure1993
For exmaple, what's so bad about a nation wide health-care system?

It's immoral. As I said, it is stealing from one to give to another. Take this example:
1. Prostitute accidentally becomes pregnant
2. She has no money because she spent it all on drugs
3. John Doe, who runs a successful and honest business is forced by penalty of prison to pay for her birth
What is moral about that?

From: Pure1993
whatever happened to open-mindedness

Open-mindedness does not mean trying every half-assed idea someone comes up with.

Oh, and while I am at it, techincally, every human should have the basic right to be treated when becomming ill, no matter how much money he or she has avaible.

By what standards? If that person doesn't care enough about his or her well-being to have ample health care, what right does he or she have to steal from someone else?

Its not Obama's fault however. Yes it is sad. But all I can say is, we dont know WHO Obama really is and who controls him. Ah better then having palin as vice president.

From: kingarabian
Socialism or Capitalism, it does not matter. There both gonna fail any economy.

So….According to you the majority of countries and their leaders have no idea what they're doing?

From: kingarabian
Its not Obama's fault however.

Has anybody said that this is Obama's fault?

Ah better then having palin as vice president.

I would rather have Palin as president for ten years than Obama for one year.

*JAD high fives bullzeye*

This topic has started going off topic, which I figured it would.

From: kingarabian
Its not Obama's fault however.

This statement I presume is about the video? It is not Obama's fault that children are being forced to sing that song, no. Would he want them singing the songs? I'm sure he wouldn't tell teachers to stop.

Yes it is sad. But all I can say is, we dont know WHO Obama really is and who controls him.

Obama said himself, "If you want to know about my policies, look at the people I surround myself with". Looking at all of his czars, many of them are radical progressives/socialists, and even self proclaimed communists (Google Van Jones to name one.)

Ah better then having palin as vice president.

Why? I haven't heard reasons she is bad other than ridiculous, irrelevant ones, such as how she talks.

whats wrong with communism? even though someone is always going to go to far, it could work out in a utopia of some sort

Communism is better than Capitalism.

*Click click click* Barrack Hussein Obama!

Woah…That's addictive, and terrible.

From: Harry
Communism is better than Capitalism.

Why? What's so attractive about it?

For me, it's the lack of incentive to work hard, and the guarantee that you will never live an extraordinary life.