SRL Archive - Graphics and Multimedia

Two new signatures.


Dervish

2009-09-24 12:54:26

Its been a little time since I used Photoshop. Yes, one of them is a remake of an old one.

Rate /10 or in %, do whatever you want.

I'll gladly make a signature for you if you want, just private message me about it or contact me on the #srl channel on Rizon irc.

Here they are :



Don't forget the smile whenever you're happy of an achievement !

:)

anonymity

2009-09-24 13:16:31

Personally I am more of a fan of the first one. A number of reasons actually influenced this thought… Mario affiliation is a win, dragon/beast face is too cartoon like, Mario red-blue aspect ratio is cool, although the red-black is brilliant on the second one.
In my sleep deprived grading format:
First is an:
8/10
Second is a:
6/10

Wow.. I did like them; keep up the fun work.

Dervish

2009-09-24 13:19:28

From: anonymity
Personally I am more of a fan of the first one. A number of reasons actually influenced this thought… Mario affiliation is a win, dragon/beast face is too cartoon like, Mario red-blue aspect ratio is cool, although the red-black is brilliant on the second one.
In my sleep deprived grading format:
First is an:
8/10
Second is a:
6/10

Wow.. I did like them; keep up the fun work.


Diablo 3 dragon/beast thingy as you call it :p.

Thanks for rating.

I dislike the text on the mario one … Should fix it in someway.

Orbital

2009-09-24 17:51:55

I hate them both… sorry

Gu3st...

2009-09-24 18:12:43

From: newbiezkid
I hate them both… sorry
Wow, you're a douche… What about telling him WHAT you hate about them?! What he can do better/different? God I hate when people do like you just did. Please use some commons sense while posting.

DDD: I like them, but there is not much variety of the colors or the lighting :) What about reading some tutorials about that?
Keep it up!

Dervish

2009-09-24 18:46:35

From: newbiezkid
I hate them both… sorry


I had a little bit of respect for you until you started being like this. Not only on my thread, but on others' aswell.

Thanks Zyt3x.

rogeruk

2009-09-24 18:54:26

Dont listen to newbiezkid, look at his sig…

Mario sig

Dont really like it that much, you can see that its just been placed on top like it shouldnt be there. It isnt blended in very well so ill give it a 4/10

Dragon sig

Very nice blend between the render and background. Looks very nice. Not including the text id give it a 9/10

Text on the dragon one can be improved, add the same effect as you have on the Fear Me part and make it stand out a bit more. Try experimenting with a few differnt colors, maybe blue or yellow.

Im a sucker for thin sigs, i dont like anything that is thick. Id say 300px height is the max you should ever go.

Fiddle around, get some eye candy plugins.

Overall very good

Dervish

2009-09-24 20:40:51

From: rogeruk
Dont listen to newbiezkid, look at his sig…

Mario sig

Dont really like it that much, you can see that its just been placed on top like it shouldnt be there. It isnt blended in very well so ill give it a 4/10

Dragon sig

Very nice blend between the render and background. Looks very nice. Not including the text id give it a 9/10

Text on the dragon one can be improved, add the same effect as you have on the Fear Me part and make it stand out a bit more. Try experimenting with a few differnt colors, maybe blue or yellow.

Im a sucker for thin sigs, i dont like anything that is thick. Id say 300px height is the max you should ever go.

Fiddle around, get some eye candy plugins.

Overall very good


You're right, I'm gonna try to make it blend in more, Thanks !

weequ

2009-09-24 22:03:15

I like your old one most. Then the second one and then 1st.

YoHoJo

2009-09-24 22:37:51

First one better, but id like the mario to be blended into the BG more, and the BG to be a bit more pizzaz-y.

senrath

2009-09-24 23:03:11

Also, the perspective on the Mario sig is a bit wonky and makes Mario look squished.

Dervish

2009-09-25 00:32:36

From: antti mies
I like your old one most. Then the second one and then 1st.


Not going to change, my current sig is my favorite of all.

From: YoHoJo
First one better, but id like the mario to be blended into the BG more, and the BG to be a bit more pizzaz-y.


You're more active lately :p. Happy to see that, although I've never really known you.

Pizzaz-y = 1337 I presume ?

And, yes I should blend it in more…

From: senrath
Also, the perspective on the Mario sig is a bit wonky and makes Mario look squished.


By large or by height ?

Thanks for all the comments

senrath

2009-09-25 00:35:40

From: Dr D. Dervish

By large or by height ?

Thanks for all the comments


He seems too wide for how tall he is.

Orbital

2009-09-26 08:33:27

Fine… I will tell you why I hate them…

Now all of you are basically calling me a dick because I hate the two signatures which DDD has created… This is my opinion and you can't just hate me for that… Maybe I should of given you a reason on my post but I don't really spend a lot of time on the forums…

people on forums like Evoke normally give much harsher feedback for work that even I think is amazing. I don't think there was anything wrong with what I said because I think telling a lie in order to make someone happy in this case is pathetic.

The reason I don't like your signatures is that it's too typical. I see signatures like this everywhere. You haven't really done anything no one else has done. And I personally don't find a picture of Mario placed on top of a CM4D impressive. When I look at a signature the first thing that goes through my mind is how did he do that?

Gu3st...

2009-09-26 12:16:36

From: newbiezkid
Fine… I will tell you why I hate them…

Now all of you are basically calling me a dick because I hate the two signatures which DDD has created… This is my opinion and you can't just hate me for that… Maybe I should of given you a reason on my post but I don't really spend a lot of time on the forums…
It wasn't that you said you hated the sig, it is that you didn't tell him what he could have done better.

Dervish

2009-09-26 14:01:40

From: newbiezkid
Fine… I will tell you why I hate them…

Now all of you are basically calling me a dick because I hate the two signatures which DDD has created… This is my opinion and you can't just hate me for that… Maybe I should of given you a reason on my post but I don't really spend a lot of time on the forums…

people on forums like Evoke normally give much harsher feedback for work that even I think is amazing. I don't think there was anything wrong with what I said because I think telling a lie in order to make someone happy in this case is pathetic.

The reason I don't like your signatures is that it's too typical. I see signatures like this everywhere. You haven't really done anything no one else has done. And I personally don't find a picture of Mario placed on top of a CM4D impressive. When I look at a signature the first thing that goes through my mind is how did he do that?


Is your sig that developped ? :p

I agree, mario sig isn't very good, yet I find it to be better than your sig which says Art54… That's just my opinion !

You can always think bad of someone's work, but not the way you did ;).

Have you really done something no one else has done ? Think about that before you post ;).

I think people, for the most, more think about how it looks than how simple or how complicated it is. That is what I play on and I can't really care about your opinion anymore, sir "I think I'm so über that I can crap on other people's posts whenever I want'.

Gu3st...

2009-09-26 14:48:22

From: Dr D. Dervish
I think people, for the most, more think about how it looks than how simple or how complicated it is. That is what I play on and I can't really care about your opinion anymore, sir "I think I'm so über that I can crap on other people's posts whenever I want'.
I agree :)
Well said.

and btw: inb4 newbiez: art94*

rogeruk

2009-09-26 15:19:41

From: Dr D. Dervish
sir "I think I'm so über that I can crap on other people's posts whenever I want'.


Agreed!

Orbital

2009-09-27 03:41:47

From: Dr D. Dervish
Is your sig that developped ? :p

I agree, mario sig isn't very good, yet I find it to be better than your sig which says Art54… That's just my opinion !

You can always think bad of someone's work, but not the way you did ;).

Have you really done something no one else has done ? Think about that before you post ;).

I think people, for the most, more think about how it looks than how simple or how complicated it is. That is what I play on and I can't really care about your opinion anymore, sir "I think I'm so über that I can crap on other people's posts whenever I want'.


Quote me if you must… When have I ever said my work is great and that I was so über??? Don't put words in my mouth…

And my Sig is a link to my home page… Not a piece of art… I haven't tried to develop some amazing typography. It's just a basic link…

I apologize for hating your work I just despise use of renders and CM4Ds especially when they haven't really been touched… I promise to be much more supportive in the future…

I really suggest You look here to get an understanding of why all great Digital art is complicated…

Dervish

2009-09-27 12:09:11

I just despise use of renders and CM4Ds especially when they haven't really been touched…


You do not know what you are talking about when its the CM4Ds.

Let's stop this, this won't get any better neither for you than for me.

Orbital

2009-09-27 13:20:33

Sorry I meant MC4D… Maxon Cinema 4D… Thought it was the other way around…

Torrent of Flame

2009-09-27 14:21:33

Why are you guys hating on newbiez? The only people at SRL who have ANY room to talk about Design on more of a 'it looks like a nice signature' is Myself, newbiez and NCbaZ, because we have all had professional design experience.

Dervish, your signatures are awful to look at and basic to make. You cannot pass this off as anything other than a couple of bits thrown onto a canvas. Post this ANYWHERE on a design forum, or not even a design orientated forum and you would be destroyed. You cannot lash out at newbiez because he was brutally honest about how crap your signatures actually are. You take pride when people on this forum with little or no design experience say it looks good, but when someone who actually works in the trade says it you get pissed off and tell them they are up themselves. Newbiez has a REASON to be up himself. He is better then you, like it or not, its a fact. He is voicing his opinion so it would be nice if you would not attack him for being honest.

He doesnt think he is better than you, he knows he is better than you.

Dynamite

2009-09-27 14:27:30

From: Torrent of Flame
Why are you guys hating on newbiez? The only people at SRL who have ANY room to talk about Design on more of a 'it looks like a nice signature' is Myself, newbiez and NCbaZ, because we have all had professional design experience.

Dervish, your signatures are awful to look at and basic to make. You cannot pass this off as anything other than a couple of bits thrown onto a canvas. Post this ANYWHERE on a design forum, or not even a design orientated forum and you would be destroyed. You cannot lash out at newbiez because he was brutally honest about how crap your signatures actually are. You take pride when people on this forum with little or no design experience say it looks good, but when someone who actually works in the trade says it you get pissed off and tell them they are up themselves. Newbiez has a REASON to be up himself. He is better then you, like it or not, its a fact. He is voicing his opinion so it would be nice if you would not attack him for being honest.

He doesnt think he is better than you, he knows he is better than you.


Yes, but this started by newbiez saying "I hate them"
Well tbh, that just sounds like flame spam.
So what if DDD isn't amazing at design? (not saying you aren't)
The point is, he put in the effort to make it and show you guys.
He didn't have to show you guys, and simply he is thinking now he shouldn't of put in the effort cause all he is getting from you and newbiez is flame and spam.
So be quiet.
Stop flaming.
And well done DDD.

T~M

Torrent of Flame

2009-09-27 14:37:09

Shut up. Im not flaming. I've told DDD I dislike them on IRC and he was fine about it. All I'm saying is that is not flame, thats another persons opinion. So someone says 'I dont like it' and doesnt explain themselves, they are hating? So why dont people explain why they like it? Same idea.

Shut up, serious. You have NO idea what you are talking about, newbiez stated his opinion, and EXPLAINED himself after he was asked to, and HE got flamed for stating his opinion. I think you should reread this thread.

Dervish

2009-09-27 14:46:31

From: Torrent of Flame
Why are you guys hating on newbiez? The only people at SRL who have ANY room to talk about Design on more of a 'it looks like a nice signature' is Myself, newbiez and NCbaZ, because we have all had professional design experience.

Dervish, your signatures are awful to look at and basic to make. You cannot pass this off as anything other than a couple of bits thrown onto a canvas. Post this ANYWHERE on a design forum, or not even a design orientated forum and you would be destroyed. You cannot lash out at newbiez because he was brutally honest about how crap your signatures actually are. You take pride when people on this forum with little or no design experience say it looks good, but when someone who actually works in the trade says it you get pissed off and tell them they are up themselves. Newbiez has a REASON to be up himself. He is better then you, like it or not, its a fact. He is voicing his opinion so it would be nice if you would not attack him for being honest.

He doesnt think he is better than you, he knows he is better than you.


Now if that isn't being self centered…

Wow, then you call me childish and such…

I post two of my new signatures which I have done since a long time ago. Then you guys come and take a crap on my work, tell me it sucks and all… I tell you I'm fine with it just that I would prefer constructive critiscism.

Do not tell me Newbiezkid did that, neither did you.

I have asked you guys to stop but you just seem to want to continue, well do it then, I just don't want to be responsible for anything.

MasterKill

2009-09-27 15:01:51

I like the dragon one, looks kewl, has fear :)

But I do agree with newbiezkid. You are asking for an opinion, aren't you? accept other people's opinion.

And tbh, the feather in your current sig has a white outline, you might want to fix that.

Gu3st...

2009-09-27 16:12:36

From: Torrent of Flame
Shut up, serious. You have NO idea what you are talking about, newbiez stated his opinion, and EXPLAINED himself after he was asked to, and HE got flamed for stating his opinion. I think you should reread this thread.
Do you know what constructive critic is? (I think you do)
That is the reason why we were angry at him. If he had posted something like
"I do not like it at all.. Sorry :/
The colors doesn't match, and that airplane is waaaay too blurred"
then DDD would have something to work with, a simple "I hate your work" doesn't help anyone.

Newbiez has apologized and said that he will be more constructive in the future so there in no point in taking this any longer.
The end.

NiCbaZ

2009-09-27 16:48:57

Oooo me likes to get some forum drama.

Feedback to sig.

I would just like to say first, well done i know you do put effort into your gfx and try hard so well done for that. When i first started off at gfx my sigs were just some filter and a render.

On the other note..
I feel like I'm seeing the same thing each time, the C4D thingy and then the render, sure its a nice effect if used well, but it does get a bit old after its been used many times and not at its full potential.

When your designing its always good to think about the Design elements and Principles.

Space - Things like how is the render spaced in your signature how far away are the
misc effects.

Line - Making sure all your lines in your signature and staying in the correct perspective and look nice together ( you have done this will in the second signature).

moving on to principles..

Balance - make sure everything in your signature is balanced and have set focal points throughout your image and not just have everything anywhere.

Color Harmony - Making sure your colors will work together and look nice, anyone with a good eye can pick up weather the colors are in harmony.

There are many more, just research on them and think about them as you make your signature.



Its not a bad thing to look a tutorial and post the signatures you have created via the tutorial, it helps everyone learn and find out new things about photoshop, and once you know many many effects you can combine them in signatures. And you will be able to create awesome graphics without any use of tutorials.

Orbital

2009-09-27 16:51:49

<3 Torrent… Everyone gave me shit for my opinion… If I just said I really liked both signatures I wouldn't of got the same "be more constructive with your feedback" crap…

Dervish

2009-09-27 16:53:18

Thanks Zyt3x, you seem to be the only who to understand part from a few others…

From: NiCbaZ
Oooo me likes to get some forum drama.

Feedback to sig.

I would just like to say first, well done i know you do put effort into your gfx and try hard so well done for that. When i first started off at gfx my sigs were just some filter and a render.

On the other note..
I feel like I'm seeing the same thing each time, the C4D thingy and then the render, sure its a nice effect if used well, but it does get a bit old after its been used many times and not at its full potential.

When your designing its always good to think about the Design elements and Principles.

Space - Things like how is the render spaced in your signature how far away are the
misc effects.

Line - Making sure all your lines in your signature and staying in the correct perspective and look nice together ( you have done this will in the second signature).

moving on to principles..

Balance - make sure everything in your signature is balanced and have set focal points throughout your image and not just have everything anywhere.

Color Harmony - Making sure your colors will work together and look nice, anyone with a good eye can pick up weather the colors are in harmony.

There are many more, just research on them and think about them as you make your signature.



Its not a bad thing to look a tutorial and post the signatures you have created via the tutorial, it helps everyone learn and find out new things about photoshop, and once you know many many effects you can combine them in signatures. And you will be able to create awesome graphics without any use of tutorials.


Thanks ! Thats constructive critiscism at 500% ! :)

Yeah, I know, its just that I'm not very good at other sorts of effects, I recently did this :


Which is pretty much my only sig without that effect.

Thanks for those tips, I'll make sure to apply them in the future ^^.

From: newbiezkid
<3 Torrent… Everyone gave me shit for my opinion… If I just said I really liked both signatures I wouldn't of got the same "be more constructive with your feedback" crap…


If your opinion hadn't been :

I hate them both… sorry


We wouldn't have had this situation, if you had critiscised in a better way and given me tips on how to improve, you'd have recieved way better comments and not the "crap" as you call it.

I agree though, better being honest than lieing to avoid getting flamed and trying to make the person happy.

But being honest doesn't have to mean crushing the person's feelings.

Honesty > Not posting > Lieing.

If you actually had posted some feedback, not just what you posted, this thread might actually had been nice and good to read.

I'll ask a mod to close this soon.

Bionicle

2009-09-27 17:10:36

OK lets just stop with newbiez and torrent. Its taking over the forum.

MARIO:

At first glance, i thought it was amazing. At second glance, i saw a few things. First of all, the background seems to be more pixelated then mario. It looks like mario was a cut n' paste kind of thing. Second of all, mario looks kind of fat :p.
This one has potential, i suggest you keep working on it. 56.5% :D.

Diablo Beast:

This one is REALLY good. He blends perfectly in with the background, and the text is PERFECT. Everything is perfectly centered and balanced, AKA: a work of art. I give it a 85%!
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Keep up the good work!
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~bionicle~

Pixelate

2009-09-27 17:21:55

Alright, sorry about that. I just got really angry but yeah, w.e. I like the dragon one a lot DDD, i like the contrast. But i also really like your current sig.

Bionicle

2009-09-27 17:23:34

removed on request

Pixelate

2009-09-27 17:38:17

Remove the quote please bionicle, I apologise for acting rashly Newbiez but I just didn't like the way the abuse was seen as unjust.

3Garrett3

2009-09-27 20:33:39

I liked the dragon one more than the mario one. Your current one is better than the other ones though.

The mario one is a little squished, like everyone said. Maybe you resized the render all weird like.

I think torrent has a point, and that nobody here really knows anything about graphic design. But I also think that it was kind of an ego thing wanting to make sure everyone knew he was better..

Also.. YAY DRAMA :).

@ Newbiez
That link that you posted with the ultra amazing art work. I actually didn't even like over half of the stuff there. Sure, I wouldn't be able to make it, but it really didn't even look good. So many effects and so many things included in them, it really isn't made for the every day person. Take a look at a steriotypical american, who is half mentally retarded (hypothetical, and not saying I believe the steriotype). This person would be much more attracted to a simple design than the complex stuff that happens on that site. I liked the little sigs that they had to advertise the work. Once I clicked on the sig, I saw lots of images that were loaded with random stuff, and really just confused me. Would the steriotypical american like that? No. Would the graphics designer have a shit ton of fun trying to figure out every single element of the design? Most likely. It's all in the point of view, not the show of skill.

I think the simpler versions of stuff should be here, since as stated, 3 people have graphics design backgrounds, and the rest don't. I would rather piss off 3 people who think everything is too simple than everyone else who gets confused at complicated stuff.

Dervish

2009-09-27 20:40:16

Thanks garrett :).

I have asked for this thread to be closed as I'm fed up of this flame war.

Let's cool down and forget this.

P1nky

2009-09-27 20:48:23

Mario one is nice,tho i love your current sig.

Orbital

2009-09-28 01:12:02

From: 3Garrett3


@ Newbiez
That link that you posted with the ultra amazing art work. I actually didn't even like over half of the stuff there. Sure, I wouldn't be able to make it, but it really didn't even look good. So many effects and so many things included in them, it really isn't made for the every day person. Take a look at a steriotypical american, who is half mentally retarded (hypothetical, and not saying I believe the steriotype). This person would be much more attracted to a simple design than the complex stuff that happens on that site. I liked the little sigs that they had to advertise the work. Once I clicked on the sig, I saw lots of images that were loaded with random stuff, and really just confused me. Would the steriotypical american like that? No. Would the graphics designer have a shit ton of fun trying to figure out every single element of the design? Most likely. It's all in the point of view, not the show of skill.

I think the simpler versions of stuff should be here, since as stated, 3 people have graphics design backgrounds, and the rest don't. I would rather piss off 3 people who think everything is too simple than everyone else who gets confused at complicated stuff.


Well only 2 pics are there are for display… The rest have been jobs… I'm gonna be putting up more soon… It just takes a while with the entire add/hide div behaviors…

Gu3st...

2009-09-28 09:42:37

DDD: You should read some tutorials on lighting :)
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2149/tutdoneassassinscreedcr.jpg
A tut done by a friend of mine, not the best outcome but I like the process

3Garrett3

2009-09-28 13:53:30

From: Zyt3x
DDD: You should read some tutorials on lighting :)
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2149/tutdoneassassinscreedcr.jpg
A tut done by a friend of mine, not the best outcome but I like the process


It wasnt a very good tut. It just said "Do this" not "Here is how you do this"

Dervish

2009-09-28 19:00:38

From: Zyt3x
DDD: You should read some tutorials on lighting :)
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2149/tutdoneassassinscreedcr.jpg
A tut done by a friend of mine, not the best outcome but I like the process


Voted sexy outcome of the year.

I liked the tutorial ;).

Thanks ! Do you have an msn ? If I need help ?

Gu3st...

2009-09-28 20:36:16

From: 3Garrett3
It wasnt a very good tut. It just said "Do this" not "Here is how you do this"

Hmm.. I agree with you :P
I'll tell him
From: Dr D. Dervish
Voted sexy outcome of the year.

I liked the tutorial ;).

Thanks ! Do you have an msn ? If I need help ?
"selmer -ande rssen [ at] hotmail.com" without spaces

3Garrett3

2009-09-28 20:38:43

From: Zyt3x
Hmm.. I agree with you :P
I'll tell him


I do like the outcome of it, but it wasn't very easy to follow. He just said his steps like "You can do this, I did this, maybe that, kinda this, and I set it to this, pushed this button, and presto!" so it didn't really do me any good.

Torrent of Flame

2009-09-28 23:15:13

Whoever de-repped me for my post, I think it is YOU that needs to grow up.

Bionicle

2009-09-28 23:30:01

From: Torrent of Flame
Whoever de-repped me for my post, I think it is YOU that needs to grow up.


Torrent, please give it a rest. This thread was not started for people to flame each other.

Torrent of Flame

2009-09-29 00:07:15

Thats the thing. I wasn't flaming silly. I was stating my very valid opinion

[JS]

2009-09-29 00:32:34

If only everyone thought like ToF.

senrath

2009-09-29 00:59:15

From: Torrent of Flame
Thats the thing. I wasn't flaming silly. I was stating my very valid opinion


Stating an opinion in a negative and derogatory manner is still flaming. Considering that your first post's content and tone can be summed up with "STFU n00b, he's better than you" and your second can be summed up with "STFU, you're an idiot", I'd call that flaming.

Now, I'm not saying that I agree with the people flaming newbiez, I'm just saying that your posts are a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Bionicle

2009-09-29 01:12:39

OK enough. lets PLEASE go back on topic and rate DDD's siggys instead of arguing back and forth. This is not why this thread was made, as i stated before. Please stop flaming each other and get back to the topic.

Dervish

2009-09-29 09:30:09

I have asked for my thread to be closed (some time since now…). I believe there's nothing more to say.

YoHoJo

2009-10-04 10:09:40

Thread Closed at Dr. D Dervish's Request.
Everyone please relax :[ and be nice.