SRL Archive - Bot Information and Spottings

Do you really report bots? As you're a bot? That's pathetic -.-

It's not pathetic if there are level 3's with default clothes cutting yews.

But it's pathetic if there's people botting on their mains.
Wait, it IS pathetic reporting level 3s. Why would you report someone if YOU USE SCAR TOO. Seriously. I'm against reporting bots.




lol ^ i was fucked up on e back then

Well thats you, it's a lesson to them. Stop macroing with lvl 3's and default clothing.

From: Junkj
Well thats you, it's a lesson to them. Stop macroing with lvl 3's and default clothing.

Why are you saying level 3's? Look at people autoing on level 20's, 50's , 132's. people are reporting them. This makes me feel like leaving the forums TBH. I'm just getting back to botting and I figure out these forums are filled with some people TRYING to get other bots banned.. I don't see how it works out. It doesn't. Really.

It's personal preference whether you report someone or not. If you're autoing with a level 3 character, chances are you don't need to be reported, as I'm sure Jagex watches the level 3's closely, and you'll get banned soon enough anyway.

From: Coh3n
It's personal preference whether you report someone or not. If you're autoing with a level 3 character, chances are you don't need to be reported, as I'm sure Jagex watches the level 3's closely, and you'll get banned soon enough anyway.

Finally someone I agree with. BUT you know how people are reporting higher levels? That's pathetic, not really an opinion..It's a fact. It's like let's say your teacher does cocaine during lunch and another teacher does cocaine during lunch and one of the teachers tell the staff that one of the teachers does cocaine during lunch. THAT'S pathetic too.

From: justin102030
Finally someone I agree with. BUT you know how people are reporting higher levels? That's pathetic, not really an opinion..It's a fact. It's like let's say your teacher does cocaine during lunch and another teacher does cocaine during lunch and one of the teachers tell the staff that one of the teachers does cocaine during lunch. THAT'S pathetic too.

Meh, you could say pathetic, or hypocritical, or ironic, whatever floats your boat. :p

I don't know where you got the impression that we try to get people banned but I'm sure most people [autoers] don't report others unless it's rather obvious that they aren't playing legitimately.

From: justin102030
Why are you saying level 3's? Look at people autoing on level 20's, 50's , 132's. people are reporting them. This makes me feel like leaving the forums TBH. I'm just getting back to botting and I figure out these forums are filled with some people TRYING to get other bots banned.. I don't see how it works out. It doesn't. Really.

How are we reporting them? I admit i do but thats only for lvl 3's. As for the 'People', are you referring to us or legit rune scape players? I thank the people who use lvl 20s+ to macro because thats when most runescape players learn how to do stuff and how it works. And it shows how smart people are when they macro.

i figure if you use an obvious bot you deserve to get banned, not saying I report people because to be honest im way to lazy to, but I mean if I see someone obviously botting is saddens me. Thats why I try to stick to un-used/private scripts.

From: Blumblebee
i figure if you use an obvious bot you deserve to get banned, not saying I report people because to be honest im way to lazy to, but I mean if I see someone obviously botting is saddens me. Thats why I try to stick to un-used/private scripts.

Yeah thanks :p
I use my own scripts half the time.

From: Blumblebee
i figure if you use an obvious bot you deserve to get banned, not saying I report people because to be honest im way to lazy to, but I mean if I see someone obviously botting is saddens me. Thats why I try to stick to un-used/private scripts.

+1 Thats exactly how I do it.
I made a guild miner in dec, and was making it for 5 fucking months. (blum knows)
I got 6 + accounts to 70 mining
Using private scripts is ALOT more safe than using public ones.

I don't play legit anymore, but if I did, and if I wasn't lazy, I'd report obvious botters. I for one remember RSDemon, the chinese botters, the level 3s overcrowding the yews, and the resulting complaints from legits and increased anti-bot action from jagex. Obvious botters are bad for all botters. My dream would be for all bots to live in peace among legits without notice, and although that won't happen, survival of the fittest will get us closer to 100%.

From: justin102030
Do you really report bots? As you're a bot? That's pathetic -.-

Yes i also do report people that bot, face it if they are stupid to use crappy bots and in default clothes then they deserve it.

correct me if i am wrong but also in the rule or somewhere they ask all of us to level combat to at least 20-30 if we use SRL. (dont think its a rule just a recommendation)

Yes most of us do. If its obvious someone is botting, then they are worth reporting. Only smart autoers can blend in well and survie the bans. And no its no pathetic, most of us are smart enough to auto properly and blend in. We are all entitled to reprot whoever we wish :D.

Its not nice to call people pathetic =/.

yes its pretty pathetic if you bot yourself and report others.

From: firefoxx
yes its pretty pathetic if you bot yourself and report others.

people can report botters if they want to its there own choice, you think its pathetic, we dont.

thats just they way things are

I wouldnt say pathetic, but i do find it very hypocritical. now if the person is like a level 3 then i dont really care much. but if someone from srl reported a lvl 60 + for botlike activity then thats pretty mean. I mean im sure we have all had the time where we used a crappy bot, not knowing how bad it was. I have many times before while testing my own scripts had them do some very botlike things. I would just use the golden rule, do what you would want done for you

Edit: though if it is a bot that it looks like the person put no effort into making, then i would say report away :P

When people say the report bots, they basically mean level 3 defaults.

From: Boreas
<snip>
survival of the fittest will get us closer to 100%.

Oh man. I was going to say that :(.

Still, noice post (+1)

From: Lance
I wouldnt say pathetic, but i do find it very hypocritical. now if the person is like a level 3 then i dont really care much. but if someone from srl reported a lvl 60 + for botlike activity then thats pretty mean. I mean im sure we have all had the time where we used a crappy bot, not knowing how bad it was. I have many times before while testing my own scripts had them do some very botlike things. I would just use the golden rule, do what you would want done for you

Edit: though if it is a bot that it looks like the person put no effort into making, then i would say report away :P

Why not change this to 'you've been spotted'? This way, anyone could look at a list of names and realise quickly that their script is not that ambiguous!

Just a thought.

Justin - I know that people in other RS cheating communities do the same.

yes i report really obvious bots…they fail :p

i usually only report the lvl 3s only.

I dont report any bots, we got bots for that. :D

I don't bot anymore. I play the game for the fun of it. I feel absolutely no guilt in reporting botters/afk trainers.

From: Richard
I don't bot anymore. I play the game for the fun of it. I feel absolutely no guilt in reporting botters/afk trainers.

Then why are you here?

From: kingarabian
Then why are you here?

For the community? I rarely go on Runescape, and when I do, it's either to test something, or to train an account to sell. I mainly stay here for the community, also.

Richard.

From: R1ch
For the community? I rarely go on Runescape, and when I do, it's either to test something, or to train an account to sell. I mainly stay here for the community, also.

Richard.

I understand hes here for the community, but he plays legit, but he reports nearly anyone he thinks is botting. I find it hypocritical.

Imo. Dont mean anything offensive.

I don't report bots at all.

If I can detect a bot, then it deserves being reported.

From: N1ke!
If I can detect a bot, then it deserves being reported.

Same.

From: N1ke!
If I can detect a bot, then it deserves being reported.

Stole my post…

Anyways, I personally take it all as a joke. So when I report people I feel not guilt. And if they take it seriously then maybe this a good learning experience for them.

I don't report bots at all. But some of them should be banned. I don't think it's that strange to report those lvl 3's(unless chicken slaying), cause I don't bot with lvl 3's.

From: N1ke!
If I can detect a bot, then it deserves being reported.

Do you think if there is one lvl 60+ bot at a yew tree, moving smooth like a human etc., that bot needs to be banned for not answer questions like a human?

I for one report rs bots.

From: caused
I dont report any bots, we got bots for that. :D

Lol good one! :D

I don't report bots either and hopefully no one reported me :D Even if I see obvious bots….I am like who cares! :spot:

As a wize man once said,

From: bionicle1800
"If you make it obvious you are botting, the you are not worthy of the privilege."

Sometimes I do things in an attempt to get reported. Please report me. I enjoy looking at red pillars.

I don't report botters, but its sad to see lvl 3 autoers in their default clothing which is quiet common

i report bots that fail.

From: caused
I dont report any bots, we got bots for that. :D

Funny stuff right there :)


I cbf to report bots.. waste of time.

Lol I was mining the other day at varrock East mine just for a little downtime from scripting. Theres this level 3 named IMineAlot or something like that lmao, he mined with a runepick, click each of the minerals in a exact order, walked to the bank in the exact position( no randomness or waits what so ever) banked it came back rinse repeat…. i honestly got aggrivated. No not because he was eating all of the ore, but because it was a stupid bot that didnt even have the decency to make a legitable name and put on some clothes…..

The point im getting to here is that when I become a scripter, Perfection is a must. It does not matter to me if your script can last for endless hours,you have to have standards. Low scripting standards ( or auto'ing in the same verb ) is a slap to the face to anyone who plays runescape. Its an Insult un-worthy of words.

To end my opinion ~ Everyone here is treated like family, follow our Creed. Make yourself un-noticable, try to challenge yourself, work hard on your scripts and in the RS world, both go hand in hand. If you get banned for auto-ing, you have no reason what so ever to be aggrivated. If anything its a motivation to work harder. Luv you all have a happy thanksgiving :D

ALL of my 10 accounts are level 3 and I bot with them all the time. Haven't been banned and i've had them for over 4 months.

I have no intention to get their levels up to 40 because if they DO get banned it will be a waste + there will be no benifit to me if I get them to 40+ combat.

From: cycrosism
ALL of my 10 accounts are level 3 and I bot with them all the time. Haven't been banned and i've had them for over 4 months.

I have no intention to get their levels up to 40 because if they DO get banned it will be a waste + there will be no benifit to me if I get them to 40+ combat.

AND That is the exact kind of ignorant ,negative mentality we are trying to do away with here :duh:

Please reread the post above yours…then do a bunch more reading…and in a week try and come back and make a valid argument from your last comment, because I'm not even going to waste my time telling you how dumb you sound !!

I do not see any point in getting my combat up, there is no point and is a waste of time. None of my accounts are fighters I have 5 miners and 5 woodcutters, so instead of me getting my combat up I will get the skill up that is actually worth it, not some useless skill.

You say that getting my combat up wont get me banned? Well that wont help, my level 78 got banned, and my level 3's arn't. As a matter of fact, NONE of my 10 accounts are banned.

Please rep me again, I had 2 balls of rep and you took away 10 to say "We try to mimic legitimate players, face it, you are just LAZY !!!!!". You could of just written this in the post, and not derep me so I am kindly asking for you to give me that 10 rep back.

I am not lazy, It's just it wont bring me ANY benifit to gain combat levels. Why would I do that when I can actually auto my woodcutting and get something that counts. What if I spend a bunch of time botting to level 40 and I get banned?

It would be MUCH more easier to just bot a skill that I actually need. Oh and as I stated, please return the rep.

From: cycrosism
I do not see any point in getting my combat up, there is no point and is a waste of time. None of my accounts are fighters I have 5 miners and 5 woodcutters, so instead of me getting my combat up I will get the skill up that is actually worth it, not some useless skill.

You say that getting my combat up wont get me banned? Well that wont help, my level 78 got banned, and my level 3's arn't. As a matter of fact, NONE of my 10 accounts are banned.

Please rep me again, I had 2 balls of rep and you took away 10 to say "We try to mimic legitimate players, face it, you are just LAZY !!!!!". You could of just written this in the post, and not derep me so I am kindly asking for you to give me that 10 rep back.

I am not lazy, It's just it wont bring me ANY benifit to gain combat levels. Why would I do that when I can actually auto my woodcutting and get something that counts. What if I spend a bunch of time botting to level 40 and I get banned?

It would be MUCH more easier to just bot a skill that I actually need. Oh and as I stated, please return the rep.

I partially understand your reasoning but really? You should not be like the other botters that single handedly ruined the game. Why not try to be like a normal person. That is [at least my] goal to be undetected. That is just pure laziness.

I am not lazy, It's just it wont bring me ANY benifit to gain combat levels. Why would I do that when I can actually auto my woodcutting and get something that counts. What if I spend a bunch of time botting to level 40 and I get banned?

I am not lazy as you can see where i quoted myself

Well, seeing you didn't take my advice and go read a bit before returning…I'll brake it down for you real simple like…..

We try to mimic legitimate players as much as possible !

At these forums, we respect the makers of the game, without them, we would have no game to script for…that's just common decency…we respect other players in the game, although some do purchase Gold Pieces, most spend countless hours accumulating it themselves, when they have to compete with what is obviously a level 3 robot, they become aggravated at all autorers in general…some people actually still script just for fun, not just to accumulate Pixel coins…

Now, aside from that…to be modest… I have about 5+ years autoing experience on you…aside from an autoresponder…the best anti-ban you can do for your character is level your combat…aside from the obviousness of drawing attention away from yourself, there are indeed MANY positive aspects that arise from this…

first of all, YOU CAN MAKE MONEY FROM ANY SKILL IN RS !!!, yes, even fire-making (google it)

feathers sell for a decent amount, as do cow hides…low effort to kill, monetary and combat level gains….also, in certain parts of the game (Draynor willows for example) there are npcs that are aggressive until you reach a certain combat level….higher combat levels equal higher monsters and better drops, pretty much the best way to make money in rs is fighting and collecting drops…

that's just the technical aspect of it…now, how about the part where we try to mimic players and blend in…unless you are a skiller, almost all players level combat to at least 30..if you are a low level skiller, then you generally spend a great deal talking to people, as attention is the main reason you created a skiller in the first place (as they are generally impractical), I'm guessing you aren't bothering to use a good responder with your "disposable accounts" ?

even though you have been successful for a few months now, their reporting system is so back logged, that it can take up to 6 months or more to review the evidence, so, while you think you are in the clear now, you are simply just attracting more attention to yourself and increasing your chances for a ban in the long run…

to be modest, I have over 100 accounts, and not 1 is less than 50 combat (unless you count the level 30 dragon def pure)…EVERY SINGLE ONE of them wears at least 1 piece of rare, trimmed or god armor, though most have full sets…small investment for large piece of mind… I won't lie, I have had a couple of bans, but I knew when everyone of them was coming, because of mishaps on my end ; IE..getting to greedy with a script that was not stable, not taking scheduled breaks, or testing new procedures…

but honestly, there is no excuse, unless you are pure pixel farming gold whore, not to treat all of your characters with individual respect…out o9f respect to the game, and respect to this community that provides you with the program to auto…the default level 3 mentality was done away with the day RS DEMON died…that was their mentality….death is eminent, so rape a character until it is banned...SCAR/SRL is undetectable as a program, how you choose to make your character interact with the game is what is detectable….treat your characters good and they will treat you good… as an SRL Member, I would expect you to set good standards for the newer people that have just come here.

On a side note…if someone reports me, and I get banned, it's my own fault…I know that if I read the tutorials here and adhere to respect and common sense, I have no fears.

*links to be added later..
*Master Kills AutoResponder
* How to auto tutorials

about the respect balls, sorry, you have to earn them back..to tired right now, but I wanted tol post a link to setting up an army, why "WE" as a community use multiple players, and all the other good things I asked you to read…post these links for me, and maybe your reputation will increase ?

I don't even use my army anymore, who wants it

From: cycrosism
I don't even use my army anymore, who wants it

Um… ok, mine plz?

From: YoHoJo
Um… ok, mine plz?

Their skills arn't that good, i'll give you the accounts when I'm unbanned from the IRC.

Wow cyc, for your own sake ill fix that, watch yourself.
And just PM me them though the forums? Thanks in advance.

You didn't have to fix it, it was fine the way it was. This is what happened:

I said to wizzup that writing .k is quicker then writing .kick then he said to me "My ass is quicker" and I honestly didn't know that Wizzup was gay, but I only found out that he was gay after I wrote "Gay" and he took offence to it and he kick banned me and wrote "Watch your language". Its been a few days and he is to ignorant to unban me even though i've /msg'd him many times asking him to unban me.

Alright then, just shouldn't insult people even if you disagree with them, you may get yourself in troubles :/. Sorry about your ban, and wizzup is a lazy/busy guy :p. Also it's 3A.M. goodnight!

Alright. I won't be on for a while. Bye.

Why would you report a bot? your taking the EXTRA EFFORT to screw someone over that is from your forum community. I don't report other bots because it could be one of my friends on here, or anywhere. I can't gain anything from it, so why do it?

From: Wizzy
Why would you report a bot? your taking the EXTRA EFFORT to screw someone over that is from your forum community. I don't report other bots because it could be one of my friends on here, or anywhere. I can't gain anything from it, so why do it?

so you shove it in there face and say ownt. Learn to follow the Creed dood.
Lol, Seriously, do you even know what type of botters were talking about?

From: Heavenguard
so you shove it in there face and say ownt. Learn to follow the Creed dood.
Lol, Seriously, do you even know what type of botters were talking about?

Does it matter what type it is? a bot is a bot. Maybe their script messes up, that is no reason to get them banned.

Scripting is Scripting and a bot is a bot. Were family for the last time Heavenguard. ^^

Sounds familiar lol?

xD, Your right, were family, and if I see your bot is screwing up, me actually reporting you is a good way to show that the bot is messing up. If your Testing a bot, I would litterally sit down and watch it run first, if your not even gonna act like your playing while running a bad script, thats like dis-obeying what we stand for.

When i play legit i HATE autoers that annoy me(they don't annoy me if i don't know they're autoers). In my opinion if you are obviously autoing you are REALLY retarded. Think anti-ban, ;)

There are a number of differences between regular botting and SRL-botting.

No Money

No money @ SRL. SRL is the only 100% totally free environment. No money implies a number of things: scamming and generaly other money-greedy 14 old practices are firmly kept out. Also the few known professional scammers have no interest in us, since there is nothing to scam. We dont play that game. This makes SRL a very cool community since it atracts only the true Artists among cheating. Those who think beyond the petty pixelgreed and practice the Art of Programming for pure challenge. Money is something you make in real life, not here. There are only a handfull known cheaters that can temporarily make a living out of it, so act wise.

Respect

Another important difference is respect. We at SRL have -and always will- respect Jagex. Comfortably enough we are also the only surviving bot that does not infringe any copyrights. We play "against the rules", and thats about it. Also, and this is important, this respect is reflected in the way we bot. Our bots are thieves, bots in disguise. This approach naturally flows from the abovementioned: our challenge is to stay cloaked, to blend in and act natural. We respect the game, as the game respects us. We are the Masterthieves, capisce?


Legacy

SCAR is the oldest bot around. We picked it up after Kaitnieks left, rebuild it, kept its legacy alive and steered it safely through rough Runescape tides. SRL became the motor of SCAR and we have achieved many many sweet victories. Both during the Aryan and the rsdemon massacre not one SRL thief was ever banned. Ever. And still in the age of reflection, SCAR/SRL remains an interesting alternative. SRL keeps the legendary Kaitnieks legacy alive. We still even share the same look.


Philosophy

SRL was the first to introduce the Army, sequential round the clock botting. This is now common good around the cheating globe. Also we where the first to introduce true autoresponding. This has been kept private throughout the years for obvious reasons (I do have a convo somewhere between two SRL-bots…brrr) but is now widespread amongst our friendly neighbours.
Also we where the first to unravel the mistery behind Jagex's banning mechanisms. We where the first to discover how to auto without getting banned.

Technical

Do you have any idea how SCAR works? or what complicated highlevel functionality it offers based on a simple pixelreadout from the runescape screen compared to the -illegal- method of decoding incoming Jagex data? (Which is of course a great achievement in itself. No bad words about our colleagues here)
Understand what we offer from simple pixelreadout: OCR, Object Recognition, Deformed Bitmap Comparison, Dynamic DTM and a gigantic(!) library of useful functions. And because it is such a huge work to maintain such a huge library, we are more proud of it. Thus we are also more prood on our beloved thieves because all we had to steer them on where pixels and timers. It is a dangerous world out there for us.

Community

At SRL we work together. We have a common goal. Our community is very open to anyone willing to participate, and is very rewarding towards anyone willing to participate. SRL is good for both your psychological and your runescape skills, so to say.
It took SRL almost three years to come this far. 50 Developers and thousands enthousiastic programmers have contributed to what SRL is and always will be, the coolest cheating place on earth.

Auto wisely. And in direct answer to the question why we report stupid ignorant good for nothing bots: Here is the answer (flash video). That is an insult to the Guild. Thats why these kind of bots do not deserve their place.

All others more than welcome :)

Very Well Put….:)

*Note to self to make a new sticky ;)

From: WT-Fakawi
Massive diatribe

Seriously, wow. :O Is there a reason SCAR doesn't use reflection?

We do use reflection, but the new RuneTek 5 breaks all of our hooks every time they update.

~Camo

From: WT-Fakawi
There are a number of differences between regular botting and SRL-botting.

No Money

No money @ SRL. SRL is the only 100% totally free environment. No money implies a number of things: scamming and generaly other money-greedy 14 old practices are firmly kept out. Also the few known professional scammers have no interest in us, since there is nothing to scam. We dont play that game. This makes SRL a very cool community since it atracts only the true Artists among cheating. Those who think beyond the petty pixelgreed and practice the Art of Programming for pure challenge. Money is something you make in real life, not here. There are only a handfull known cheaters that can temporarily make a living out of it, so act wise.

Respect

Another important difference is respect. We at SRL have -and always will- respect Jagex. Comfortably enough we are also the only surviving bot that does not infringe any copyrights. We play "against the rules", and thats about it. Also, and this is important, this respect is reflected in the way we bot. Our bots are thieves, bots in disguise. This approach naturally flows from the abovementioned: our challenge is to stay cloaked, to blend in and act natural. We respect the game, as the game respects us. We are the Masterthieves, capisce?


Legacy

SCAR is the oldest bot around. We picked it up after Kaitnieks left, rebuild it, kept its legacy alive and steered it safely through rough Runescape tides. SRL became the motor of SCAR and we have achieved many many sweet victories. Both during the Aryan and the rsdemon massacre not one SRL thief was ever banned. Ever. And still in the age of reflection, SCAR/SRL remains an interesting alternative. SRL keeps the legendary Kaitnieks legacy alive. We still even share the same look.


Philosophy

SRL was the first to introduce the Army, sequential round the clock botting. This is now common good around the cheating globe. Also we where the first to introduce true autoresponding. This has been kept private throughout the years for obvious reasons (I do have a convo somewhere between two SRL-bots…brrr) but is now widespread amongst our friendly neighbours.
Also we where the first to unravel the mistery behind Jagex's banning mechanisms. We where the first to discover how to auto without getting banned.

Technical

Do you have any idea how SCAR works? or what complicated highlevel functionality it offers based on a simple pixelreadout from the runescape screen compared to the -illegal- method of decoding incoming Jagex data? (Which is of course a great achievement in itself. No bad words about our colleagues here)
Understand what we offer from simple pixelreadout: OCR, Object Recognition, Deformed Bitmap Comparison, Dynamic DTM and a gigantic(!) library of useful functions. And because it is such a huge work to maintain such a huge library, we are more proud of it. Thus we are also more prood on our beloved thieves because all we had to steer them on where pixels and timers. It is a dangerous world out there for us.

Community

At SRL we work together. We have a common goal. Our community is very open to anyone willing to participate, and is very rewarding towards anyone willing to participate. SRL is good for both your psychological and your runescape skills, so to say.
It took SRL almost three years to come this far. 50 Developers and thousands enthousiastic programmers have contributed to what SRL is and always will be, the coolest cheating place on earth.

Auto wisely. And in direct answer to the question why we report stupid ignorant good for nothing bots: Here is the answer (flash video). That is an insult to the Guild. Thats why these kind of bots do not deserve their place.

All others more than welcome :)

You should put that in the homepage. Something tells that little speech will attract a lot of people ;)

@ Cigue - We did use reflection. But now its broken after the update and people are too lazy to fix it :p

i uses default clothing and i guess i might go to clothes changer