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IRC Complaint


R0b0t1

2009-08-30 09:50:03


<Jason2gs> We all live, in a pokemon world!
<Simtoon> Hey Blumblebee
<Jason2gs> Po-ke-mon!
<Blumblebee> hola
<Blumblebee> :>
<Blumblebee> http://i30.tinypic.com/141nt5j.jpg
<Blumblebee> XD
<Simtoon> Jason2gs, i am the motherfucking pokemon
<Blumblebee> someone post it
<Simtoon> whos that
<Blumblebee> feddy
<Blumblebee> freddy*
<Blumblebee> XD
<Simtoon> Blumblebee, how did you get his pic?
<Blumblebee> freddy does dragonball pic
* Hobbit` sets ban on *!*@*DD40F199*
* cycro`eeepc has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
* Hobbit` has kicked Blumblebee from #SRL (Blumblebee)
<Simtoon> Hobbit`, wats so bad about that pic
<Hobbit`> Anyone else care to disrespect freddy?
<R0b0t1> Hobbit` is abusing his powers.
<Hobbit`> Its freddy
<R0b0t1> This incident has been noted and will be duly reported.
<Hobbit`> fuck off R0b0t1, not in the mood
<Zeph`> thats not freddy…
* Simtoon stfu's before Hobbit` rages at him
<Hobbit`> it was meant to be
<Hobbit`> http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=623595#post623595
<Zeph`> i know
<Hobbit`> oops
<R0b0t1> But it is (or is assumed to be) Freddy, you are showing him preferential treatment.
<Hobbit`> Blumblebee someone post it 22:33 Simtoon whos that 22:33 Blumblebee feddy 22:33 Blumblebee freddy* 22:34 Blumblebee XD
* Hobbit` sets ban on *!*@*a.b.c.d.e*
<Widget> what?
* You have been kicked from #SRL by Hobbit` (told you i wasnt in the mood for your shit)
* Cannot join #SRL (You are banned).


I believe my point was valid and while he did not HAVE to listen to it (and said he did not want to), I attempted to briefly explain my opinion so as to make sure he understood I was not directly trying to be annoying. In response, he banned me, for stating my (valid) opinion.

In addition to asking to be unbanned, I am also reporting the ban of blumblebee, for reasons stated above. Operators are supposed to be mainly unbiased and level, something which Hobbit is usually not. Among the administrators and moderators, he is the most mentally unstable (proved numerous occasions, of course, this proof will be asked for, but there are many logs of him on IRC going ballistic or something similar or before the IRC on the forums being belligerent).

Being as mentally unstable as he seems to be, something should be done about him


* You have been invited to #SRL by Widget (irc.nuu.cc)
* Now talking on #SRL
* Topic for #SRL is: […]
<Widget> it seems only Hobbit` hates you :<


An example opinion of random rage.

Hobbit

2009-08-30 10:00:29

Blumblebee deserved that ban. He posted a picture of freddy pasted onto a nazi uniform with a hitler mustache. That is disrespectful on many levels.

And I took your statement
<R0b0t1> But it is (or is assumed to be) Freddy, you are showing him preferential treatment.
as a personal attack which i really believe that is how you meant it. If it was anyones face pasted on their i would have done the same thing.


From: R0b0t1
Operators are supposed to be mainly unbiased and level, something which Hobbit is usually not.


Show some examples please.

From: R0b0t1
Among the administrators and moderators, he is the most mentally unstable (proved numerous occasions, of course, this proof will be asked for, but there are many logs of him on IRC going ballistic or something similar or before the IRC on the forums being belligerent).

Being as mentally unstable as he seems to be, something should be done about him


^^ Hmmmm and you wonder why I took it as a personal attack. This is all you do.

cycrosism

2009-08-30 10:04:15

:( I parted halfway through all of that :(

Blumblebee

2009-08-30 10:17:05

it was disrespectful lets be serious, I dont mind the ban, I get what I deserve really :/ but i dont really get r0b0ts ban

Brain

2009-08-30 10:18:09

Good to see you being mature about it blumble :) hopefully this will work out quickly, with less drama than some other threads going on at the moment…

Hobbit

2009-08-30 10:21:08

From: Blumblebee
it was disrespectful lets be serious, I dont mind the ban, I get what I deserve really :/


I respect your maturity in the matter. I was planning on removing the ban in a few hours.


From: Blumblebee
but i dont really get r0b0ts ban


His was because i felt it was a personal attack on me. It was going to be a 10 minute ban but then it was all thrown about in a confusion of arguments. But he has served the ban now.

R0b0t1

2009-08-30 10:23:48

From: Hobbit
Blumblebee deserved that ban. He posted a picture of freddy pasted onto a nazi uniform with a hitler mustache. That is disrespectful on many levels.

And I took your statement as a personal attack which i really believe that is how you meant it. If it was anyones face pasted on their i would have done the same thing.


No… I don't see how my opinion could be interpreted as a personal attack. It is simply stating an opinion, expressed in fact form (although the opinion is most likely true).

Also, I am almost 100% sure if it was someone else's picture nothing would have been done except for questioning why someone used paint to place someone's face over Hitler's. You are simply seeking to back up your own opinion (audience take note of this, try to view this unbiasedly) to make your actions seem typical.


Show some examples please.


Like I said, I don't have any logged, perhaps someone else will be able to provide logged or remembered experiences in greater detail than me.

But to start that off, you seem to sometimes join the IRC randomly angry, which I'll make allowance for, but you seem to do it more often and seem to be almost "mad" in the clinically insane/angry sense of the word.


^^ Hmmmm and you wonder why I took it as a personal attack. This is all you do.


No. This is pretty much the first time I have made public question of your sanity or mental stability. Attacking people is far from what I do, however, you may simply be forgetting the times I was not attacking you (or someone else; the majority of the time is spent this way) or you may be having delusions of grandeur that you are important enough to attack for some reason. I do not know.




EDIT: How could it possibly be a personal attack? It was obviously an opinion, most courts and people would in no way find the sentence you quoted me on offensive, even taking into account the situation. My best guess is that you a) are trying to cover your ass, or b) are not thinking properly, in terms of paranoia or some other condition.

Now, since the ban has been lifted, this thread is about finding a way to compensate for the 10 minutes of my time "taken" from me for superfluous reasons, and also about "finding a solution to/for Hobbit".

Hobbit

2009-08-30 10:35:36

I don't see how one could not take this
<R0b0t1> But it is (or is assumed to be) Freddy, you are showing him preferential treatment.

as a personal attack when it is preceded by this:

<R0b0t1> Hobbit` is abusing his powers.
<Hobbit`> Its freddy
<R0b0t1> This incident has been noted and will be duly reported.


Well accuse me all you want. Give me some examples and if I am truly in the wrong I will apologize and make amends where needed.

Question my mental state all you want but until you go through medical school and get a degree in psychology I don't really think your opinion on my mental health is valid.


Edit: I truly believe it was a personal attack. I cannot change how I feel nor can you, so there is no real point in arguing over it is there?

As for "compensation" for your 10 minutes of lost IRC time to what I believed to be a personal attack, what do you want, a happy face sticker? You want me to sit in a corner for 10 minutes? This is ridiculous.

The Claw

2009-08-30 10:38:58

Is a personal attack really grounds for banning someone anyway? Unless its something really really offensive, I think most people should be able to handle it…either by taking it on board as constructive criticism and see if what was said has any merit and if it does, rethinking the situation (the best thing to do), or laughing it off or something. To me, it just looked like R0b0t1 was defending a ban he (and others) saw as unjust, which is perfectly acceptable by common sense, common law, and the first amendment. Wasn't inappropriate flaming or anything. You don't see the president of a country throwing someone in jail for disagreeing with a choice they made. (in most countries anyway lol)

n3ss3s

2009-08-30 10:39:52

How about we avoid this drama by stopping giving Freddy shit…

Hobbit

2009-08-30 10:42:00

From: The Claw
Is a personal attack really grounds for banning someone anyway? Unless its something really really offensive, I think most people should be able to handle it…either by taking it on board as constructive criticism and see if what was said has any merit and if it does, rethinking the situation (the best thing to do), or laughing it off or something.


You are right. There could have been other alternatives I could have taken. I will admit I am wrong on that part.


From: n3ss3s
How about we avoid this drama by stopping giving Freddy shit…


I think you posted in the wrong thread…

senrath

2009-08-30 10:45:09

From: Hobbit

I think you posted in the wrong thread…

I think he meant to post here, considering this whole deal was sparked by Blumblebee posting a "Hitlerized" picture of "Freddy".

Hobbit

2009-08-30 10:47:01

From: senrath
I think he meant to post here, considering this whole deal was sparked by Blumblebee posting a "Hitlerized" picture of "Freddy".


Ahhh that makes more sense now.

Freddy or not, it would be disrespectful to anyone.

R0b0t1

2009-08-30 10:48:56

It would be worthwhile to point out I could have infact learned more than a degree would cover, and my opinion would not be taken because I did not spend thousands of dollars to get a piece of paper. I am sorry, but if anything, your use of "he did not get a degree" or "he did not spend thousands of dollars for a piece of paper for which the requirements he could easily surpass with minimal effort" (not calling myself a genius, most people could do a course or two on their own; the only limiting factor is drive to get it done) is simply an escape of sorts to keep you from thinking about something which may be true.

And, as I said, I do not have direct proof besides perhaps being able to dig up logs of you acting unordinarily angry, but I don't think I really have to, you are lying to yourself for the sake of being right.

And no, I still do not see it. I am fighting for those that can't/won't (don't think I'm picturing myself as a superhero or something) fight for themselves.

Gu3st...

2009-08-30 10:55:19

I can't believe how disrespectful some people here at SRL is…

Hobbit

2009-08-30 10:57:06

Hmmm well would you let some person who has read some article online about psychology diagnose you? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't. Just because you can read things about psychology doesn't make you special. I, as well as probably most of earth's population, do not think you are qualified to diagnose someones mental health. Especially via a forum or irc.

I have no problem with being wrong, prove me wrong and I have no problem with admitting I am wrong. But if I truly believe I am in the right i will fight tooth and nail till death over it.

Do not see what? The disrespect in pasting someones face onto a nazi body and painting a hitler mustache on it?

And let them come forward, it doesn't have to be public, PM me or email me or something if you have a problem with me and I will try my best to correct it if there is correction needed.

R0b0t1

2009-08-30 11:04:32

What makes you think I read online articles? Could be books, perhaps, maybe even the same books they use to teach the courses. How do you know I did not find a list of requirements (syllabus) and use that to know what to cover?

Also, many professionals diagnose mental issues through writing or text. It's not just a movie trick for CIS or something.


So, in short, you walk out of this fight dead? That is fine with me.


EDIT: And no, I see the possible disrespect, but this is not arguing about that, you jumped subjects.

Blumblebee

2009-08-30 11:09:26

honestly I'm sarcastically poking fun at the situation and not freddy himself, anyone can see that. Lets be serious, the entire situation was because of a hitler reference and not even as something terrible (as in he wasnt calling Freddy hitler in a bad way but a joke afaik). I accepted the ban, obviously I can see how some people can get offended by it, but keep in mind this was meant in satire. Now, I dont want anyone defending me and can we just end this drama? It seems like we're all taking advantage of the drama Freddy created to put in our own personal wants. Lets see we have a Ban Harry thread, a Freddy's leaving thread, and now a InJust IRC thread. Lets just stop this shit.

Hobbit

2009-08-30 11:09:29

From: R0b0t1
What makes you think I read online articles? Could be books, perhaps, maybe even the same books they use to teach the courses. How do you know I did not find a list of requirements (syllabus) and use that to know what to cover?


Online article, books, text book, movies, audio cassettes, picture books, I don't care. You are still not qualified to diagnose someones mental health.

From: R0b0t1
Also, many professionals diagnose mental issues through writing or text. It's not just a movie trick for CIS or something.


That may be true, but are you a professional? I really don't think so.

From: R0b0t1
EDIT: And no, I see the possible disrespect, but this is not arguing about that, you jumped subjects.


Then what did you mean by this
And no, I still do not see it.
It seemed most likely to be in response to the disrespectful nature of the picture.

R0b0t1

2009-08-30 11:18:27

I am still not qualified because I did waste thousands of dollars on a piece of paper? Here we are, arguing in circles.

Being a professional in the sense of a practising psychologist is irrelevant, qualification in the normal sense is irrelevant, so simply knowledge and it's application could make me qualified, but no one would listen (like you) because I did not buy in to the elitist system and spend unnecessary amounts of money just to prove I was rich.

You are not being forced to believe me, just like you are not required to believe anything you do not want to believe. But if a man truly thinks a door exists i nthe floor, does it?

Now, that book you idolize so much, why do you idolize it?

Hobbit

2009-08-30 11:25:02

If you are so qualified then go challenge the exams. They should be no problem for you since you know just as much as a real psychiatrist does. Don't go through the courses, don't spend thousands of dollars. Challenges all the exams.

Why do you say i idolize it? Because I have a quote from it in my signature? That hardly counts as me idolizing it. Maybe if I referred to it and posted quotes from it on a regular basis you could say that I idolize it. But simply from a quote in a signature is far from it. The only time I mention the book is when people ask where the quote is from.

Wanted

2009-08-30 19:01:39

We need a section other than SRL Member News to post this kind of bs in.

SRL Member BS section pl0x

Move threads IRC Complaint -> Harry Should be Banned.

JAD

2009-08-30 19:35:18

From: IceFire908
We need a section other than SRL Member News to post this kind of bs in.

SRL Member BS section pl0x

Move threads IRC Complaint -> Harry Should be Banned.


The only post worth reading in this entire thread..

With all seriousness, I think that there should be a bs/drama section of the forums.

Also move topic about Freddy leaving, polls about asking Freddy to stay…etc. there.

Harry

2009-08-30 19:41:53

OH YOUR GOD WHY IS THERE SO MUCH DRAMA??

R0b0t1, you have often bitched to be in the past about me making a thread about when I get banned, as all of SRL have. In fact, I am banned for no reason by Raym0nd` right now. Did I make a thread? No. The ops are often abusive of their power. It is only their loss.

I will requote myself.
Power is easily abused by the idiotic. An idiot will want to exert their authority, make themselves known, bend the rules for themselves and release their frustration on the people in their jurisdiction. They will frequently assume the moral high ground and justify their decisions after they are made. Although they will tell themselves they are selfless, their only motivation is greed and they are fueled by selfish, destructive desire.

A wise man with power, a leader, will be barely apparent. He will only use his power when it's absolutely necessary. He will not seek appreciation or authority. He will not seek love or validation, or even fear. This great leader will be barely known to his subject and when the great leaders job is fulfilled, they will say "look at what we have accomplished all by ourselves." Such a leader will acknowledge himself not as a person with responsibilities, but solely as a leader and as he leads he will leave his humanity behind. Surprisingly, this leader will be seemingly careless and will remain stress-less. His activities will seem effortless.

Brain

2009-08-30 20:14:54

regardless of how qualified you are, you need something to demonstrate to the general public to PROVE that you are qualified. Without this proof, any Joe Blow could go around claiming to be an engineer, and design woefully inadequate structures, and get people killed. He could also be a doctor, and give you open heart surgery for a tooth ache.

The "piece of paper" that you "pay thousands of dollars for" is the proof that you are actually trained in what you claim to be trained in. Without it, there would be chaos.

Sir R. M8gic1an

2009-08-30 21:42:52

Read the IRC Topic.
| Channel operators may exercise judgement at will |

~RM

Harry

2009-08-30 21:45:07

Of course they can. Does it mean they SHOULD though?

R0b0t1

2009-08-30 22:09:30

It means they can, but it does not mean I have to go with it.

And, yes, I am paying thousands of dollars for recognition, but this is something that SHOULD NOT be required. Why pay thousands of dollars for recognition? Because they want you to.

If you wish to ignore me by saying I am not qualified, go ahead, but that does not make my points any less probable, nor does it make them invalid.

Widget

2009-08-30 22:19:43

I wish there was something that told you when you get quoted in a post, especially the first one in a thread :<.

2009-08-29--22:33:27  <Blumblebee> hola
2009-08-29--22:33:28 <Blumblebee> :>
2009-08-29--22:33:31 <Blumblebee> http://i30.tinypic.com/141nt5j.jpg
2009-08-29--22:33:31 <Blumblebee> XD
2009-08-29--22:33:35 <Blumblebee> someone post it
2009-08-29--22:33:36 <Simtoon> Jason2gs, i am the motherfucking pokemon
2009-08-29--22:33:53 <Simtoon> whos that
2009-08-29--22:33:56 <Blumblebee> feddy
2009-08-29--22:33:59 <Blumblebee> freddy*
2009-08-29--22:34:00 <Blumblebee> XD
2009-08-29--22:34:16 <Simtoon> Blumblebee, how did you get his pic?
2009-08-29--22:34:26 <Blumblebee> freddy does dragonball pic
2009-08-29--22:34:27 *** Hobbit` sets mode: +b *!*@*DD40F199*
2009-08-29--22:34:29 *** cycro`eeepc has quit IRC
2009-08-29--22:34:32 *** Blumblebee was kicked by Hobbit` (Blumblebee)
2009-08-29--22:34:51 <Simtoon> Hobbit`, wats so bad about that pic
2009-08-29--22:34:55 <Hobbit`> Anyone else care to disrespect freddy?
2009-08-29--22:34:56 <R0b0t1> Hobbit` is abusing his powers.
2009-08-29--22:34:59 <Hobbit`> Its freddy
2009-08-29--22:35:05 <R0b0t1> This incident has been noted and will be duly reported.
2009-08-29--22:35:12 <Hobbit`> fuck off R0b0t1, not in the mood
2009-08-29--22:35:23 <Zeph`> thats not freddy...
2009-08-29--22:35:32 * Simtoon stfu's before Hobbit` rages at him
2009-08-29--22:35:32 <Hobbit`> it was meant to be
2009-08-29--22:35:43 <Hobbit`> http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=623595#post623595
2009-08-29--22:35:43 <Zeph`> i know
2009-08-29--22:35:47 <Hobbit`> oops
2009-08-29--22:35:50 <R0b0t1> But it is (or is assumed to be) Freddy, you are showing him preferential treatment.
2009-08-29--22:35:53 <Hobbit`> Blumblebee someone post it 22:33 Simtoon whos that 22:33 Blumblebee feddy 22:33 Blumblebee freddy* 22:34 Blumblebee XD
2009-08-29--22:36:40 *** Hobbit` sets mode: +b *!*@*a.b.c.d.e*
2009-08-29--22:36:47 <Widget> what?
2009-08-29--22:36:50 *** R0b0t1 was kicked by Hobbit` (told you i wasnt in the mood for your shit)
2009-08-29--22:37:45 <Widget> ok
2009-08-29--22:37:48 <Hobbit`> anyone else?
2009-08-29--22:37:49 <Simtoon> Zeph`, wanna play some fb poker?
2009-08-29--22:37:51 <Widget> but why is r0b0t1 banned now?
2009-08-29--22:37:52 <Zeph`> i hoped you didn't kick him for that post..
2009-08-29--22:37:53 * Simtoon stfu's before Hobbit` rages at him
2009-08-29--22:37:54 *** Boreas has quit IRC
2009-08-29--22:38:07 <Widget> -ChanServ- Permission denied.
2009-08-29--22:38:09 <Widget> :<
2009-08-29--22:38:16 *** Widget sets mode: -b *!*@*a.b.c.d.e*
2009-08-29--22:38:22 <Hobbit`> do not unban him
2009-08-29--22:38:28 *** Hobbit` sets mode: +b *!*@*a.b.c.d.e*
2009-08-29--22:38:29 <Widget> i can't even see what he did
2009-08-29--22:38:39 <Zeph`> he hasn't done anything wrong..
2009-08-29--22:38:45 <Jason2gs> *pokes head in on account of drama*
2009-08-29--22:38:48 *** Widget sets mode: -b *!*@*DD40F199*
2009-08-29--22:38:51 <Widget> oops
2009-08-29--22:38:56 *** Widget sets mode: +b *!*@*DD40F199*
2009-08-29--22:38:58 <Widget> didn't mean that one
2009-08-29--22:39:03 *** Widget sets mode: -b *!*@*a.b.c.d.e*
2009-08-29--22:39:09 *** Hobbit` sets mode: +b *!*@*a.b.c.d.e*
2009-08-29--22:39:12 <Widget> *sigh*
2009-08-29--22:39:17 <Hobbit`> please stop undoing my bans
2009-08-29--22:39:20 <Simtoon> if most of the ops agree there was no reason to ban then unban the sucker
2009-08-29--22:39:22 <Zeph`> Hobbit`, he hasn't done anything wrong...
2009-08-29--22:39:41 <Widget> Jason2gs, plz to an opinion
2009-08-29--22:39:41 <Simtoon> Jason2gs, has R0b0t1 done anything wrong?
2009-08-29--22:39:47 <Widget> lol
2009-08-29--22:39:56 <Simtoon> Widget, ninja'd
2009-08-29--22:40:13 <Widget> my client insists i said it first but whatever
2009-08-29--22:40:21 <Simtoon> Widget, :(
2009-08-29--22:40:24 <Jason2gs> Looks like Hobbit banned for [01:34:43] <@Hobbit`> Anyone else care to disrespect freddy?
2009-08-29--22:40:28 <Jason2gs> Which I disagree with.
2009-08-29--22:40:42 <Widget> there seems to be a mass disagreement with Hobbit` :<
2009-08-29--22:40:51 <Jason2gs> MASS DISAGREEMENT
2009-08-29--22:40:58 <Simtoon> who thinks R0b0t1 should be unbanned
2009-08-29--22:41:04 <Jason2gs> It's not a democracy.
2009-08-29--22:41:07 <Jason2gs> Simtoon, ^
2009-08-29--22:41:16 <Widget> it's one of those oligarchy things
2009-08-29--22:41:18 * Simtoon is scared Hobbit` will rage
2009-08-29--22:41:19 <Hobbit`> you dont think pasting freddys face (or one in place of his) with a hitler mustache is not disrespectful?
2009-08-29--22:41:24 <Widget> except the ops are supposed to agree with eachother
2009-08-29--22:41:27 <Jason2gs> I have it around here, somewhere.
2009-08-29--22:41:28 <Widget> yes, but why is r0b0t1 banned?
2009-08-29--22:41:40 <Hobbit`> you dont think pasting freddys face (or one in place of his) with a hitler mustache is not disrespectful? < Jason2gs
2009-08-29--22:41:59 <Zeph`> Hobbit`, and you banned blumblebee for that
2009-08-29--22:42:06 <Zeph`> but why r0b0t
2009-08-29--22:42:08 <Jason2gs> Hobbit`, yes, but it's not a reason to ban someone from the IRC. (Or forum, for that matter.)
2009-08-29--22:42:29 <Jason2gs> Unless there's a rule that you shouldn't do something ... like that.
2009-08-29--22:42:48 *** Tootoot222 has quit IRC
2009-08-29--22:43:23 <Jason2gs> TOGETHER AND FOREVER MORE!
2009-08-29--22:43:26 <Jason2gs> I'm nostalgia-ing :(
2009-08-29--22:43:32 <Widget> what?
2009-08-29--22:44:24 *** Tootoot222 has joined #SRL
2009-08-29--22:44:26 <Widget> anyway, Hobbit`, we still don't know why r0b0t1 is banned :<
2009-08-29--22:44:27 <Jason2gs> It was at the end of one of the Pokemon episodes I had on DVD. "Together forever, no matter how long, from now until the end of tiiiime." Drifting off at the end.
2009-08-29--22:45:07 *** away_man_ftl is now known as iron_man_ftw
2009-08-29--22:45:22 <Jason2gs> I guess it's from the album, "2.B.A Master"
2009-08-29--22:45:40 *** Widget sets mode: +e *!*@*a.b.c.d.e*
2009-08-29--22:45:51 *** R0b0t1 has joined #SRL
2009-08-29--22:46:04 <Widget> it seems only Hobbit` hates you :<
2009-08-29--22:46:06 <Jason2gs> I'm LOL'ing at this drama.
2009-08-29--22:46:28 <Widget> we have a hueg banlist
2009-08-29--22:46:28 <Zeph`> fail drama is fail
2009-08-29--22:46:47 <Hobbit`> i told him im not in the mood for his shit and he still provoked me
2009-08-29--22:46:56 <Widget> * #SRL Banlist: Fri Aug 14 20:11:53 *!*@chemo.therapy Widget!~Widget@unaffiliated.widget.x-249473
2009-08-29--22:47:00 <Widget> i don't even remember setting that
2009-08-29--22:47:11 <Hobbit`> so you can just fuck off with him as far as im concerned
2009-08-29--22:47:19 <R0b0t1> No. I stated my opinion.
2009-08-29--22:47:24 <Widget> he didn't provoke you =|
2009-08-29--22:47:31 <Hobbit`> are you me
2009-08-29--22:47:32 <Jason2gs> Yeah. Big banlist is big. And a lot of the bans are from Sexy, which makes it impossible to tell who set them. (Unless we search logs, which is work.)
2009-08-29--22:47:32 <Hobbit`> no
2009-08-29--22:47:38 <Hobbit`> you cannot make that decision
2009-08-29--22:47:45 <Widget> *sigh*
2009-08-29--22:47:58 <R0b0t1> I was trying to correct the situation by giving a valid opinion as to my previous statement, proving I was not trying to be annoying.
2009-08-29--22:48:00 <Widget> shall i count this as provoking me and ban you as well?
2009-08-29--22:48:09 <Widget> /more drama
2009-08-29--22:48:19 <Hobbit`> go right ahead
2009-08-29--22:48:34 <Hobbit`> ill just go undo your ban as you have mine
2009-08-29--22:48:43 <Jason2gs> Provocation isn't ban-worthy, in all cases.
2009-08-29--22:48:46 <Jason2gs> Technically...
2009-08-29--22:48:55 <Hobbit`> does its really sound like i give a shit right now
2009-08-29--22:48:57 <Jason2gs> In most cases, I think.
2009-08-29--22:48:59 * Widget doesn't know how to make Hobbit` sit down for a half hour to cool down
2009-08-29--22:49:02 <Jason2gs> Not really.
2009-08-29--22:49:49 <Hobbit`> maybe i dont want to fucking cool down. maybe i cant cool down. stop pretending like you know what is going on inside my head
2009-08-29--22:49:59 <R0b0t1> Widget: tranq darts.
2009-08-29--22:50:09 <Jason2gs> R0b0t1, you're asking for it... xD
2009-08-29--22:50:16 <Hobbit`> fuck you R0b0t1
2009-08-29--22:50:19 <R0b0t1> Well it'd technically work...
2009-08-29--22:50:19 <Jason2gs> See?
2009-08-29--22:50:31 <Widget> Hobbit`, maybe you shouldn't be on irc then?
2009-08-29--22:50:35 <Widget> i don't think it's helping your rage
2009-08-29--22:50:36 <Jason2gs> ^
2009-08-29--22:50:41 <R0b0t1> Don't rage and op.
2009-08-29--22:53:51 *** Hobbit` sets mode: -e *!*@*a.b.c.d.e*
2009-08-29--22:53:58 *** R0b0t1 was kicked by Hobbit` (R0b0t1)
2009-08-29--22:54:39 <Widget> <@Jason2gs> MASS DISAGREEMENT
2009-08-29--22:55:02 <Hobbit`> he provoked me more
2009-08-29--22:55:11 <Widget> <@Jason2gs> Not really.
2009-08-29--22:55:14 <Jason2gs> I has another quote.
2009-08-29--22:55:15 <Zeph`> Dpm
2009-08-29--22:55:18 <Zeph`> Don't rage and op.
2009-08-29--22:55:26 <Jason2gs> Allow me to get it...
2009-08-29--22:55:39 <Widget> i think i'll just talk using Jason2gs's messages now :p
2009-08-29--22:55:42 <Jason2gs> <@Jason2gs> Provocation isn't ban-worthy, in all cases.
2009-08-29--22:55:51 <Hobbit`> let me get another quote
2009-08-29--22:55:51 <Widget> <@Jason2gs> <@Jason2gs> Provocation isn't ban-worthy, in all cases.
2009-08-29--22:55:56 <Jason2gs> :]
2009-08-29--22:55:59 <Jason2gs> Hobbit`, allow me
2009-08-29--22:56:05 <Jason2gs> <@Hobbit`> does its really sound like i give a shit right now
2009-08-29--22:56:10 <Widget> <@Hobbit`> fuck you R0b0t1
2009-08-29--22:56:10 <Jason2gs> That one?
2009-08-29--22:56:10 <Hobbit`> Jason2gs In most cases, I think.
2009-08-29--22:56:24 <Jason2gs> This is one of them.
2009-08-29--22:56:30 <Jason2gs> <@Hobbit`> does its really sound like i give a shit right now
2009-08-29--22:56:33 <Jason2gs> Cause of that ^
2009-08-29--22:56:39 * Widget notes that Hobbit`is provoking r0b0t1 too
2009-08-29--22:56:43 <Widget> though r0b0t1 can't do anything
2009-08-29--22:56:48 <Widget> so it's op aboose
2009-08-29--22:56:57 <Jason2gs> That's a good point, Widget. *Writes that down*
2009-08-29--22:57:14 * Widget hates when gov't people do that to him
2009-08-29--22:57:20 <Jason2gs> :D
2009-08-29--22:57:28 <Widget> i've had to deal with that for a week straight at school
2009-08-29--22:57:37 <Jason2gs> Write down what you say in front of you?
2009-08-29--22:57:42 <Widget> no
2009-08-29--22:57:57 <Widget> when people insist you're provoking them because they had a bad day
2009-08-29--22:57:59 <Widget> and punish you randomly
2009-08-29--22:58:06 <Widget> so you have to go through a hueg appeal process
2009-08-29--22:58:15 <Hobbit`> see now if you guys had left it alone i would have had unbanned him by now
2009-08-29--22:58:22 <Hobbit`> but no
2009-08-29--22:58:27 <Widget> that's not much of a justification
2009-08-29--22:58:35 <Hobbit`> i didnt say it was
2009-08-29--22:58:46 <Hobbit`> im just saying maybe you guys should abide my your own damn rules
2009-08-29--22:59:05 <Hobbit`> by*
2009-08-29--22:59:08 <Widget> provocation isn't a rule afaik
2009-08-29--22:59:13 <Widget> blumblebee is still banned
2009-08-29--22:59:16 <Widget> and that's acceptable i suppose
2009-08-29--22:59:19 <Hobbit`> not that rule
2009-08-29--22:59:29 <Jason2gs> I think he's referring to "mind another op's bans"
2009-08-29--22:59:34 <Hobbit`> yes
2009-08-29--22:59:41 <Jason2gs> I win~!
2009-08-29--22:59:52 <Hobbit`> good for you, eat a cookie
2009-08-29--23:00:01 <Widget> *sigh*
2009-08-29--23:00:10 <Hobbit`> i know blumblebee is still banned
2009-08-29--23:00:19 *** Tootoot222 has quit IRC
2009-08-29--23:00:24 <Hobbit`> he is banned for other things
2009-08-29--23:00:25 *** Widget sets mode: -b *!*@chemo.therapy
2009-08-29--23:00:37 <Jason2gs> What's Firefly?
2009-08-29--23:00:48 <Hobbit`> a clothing company
2009-08-29--23:01:01 <Widget> a type of bug
2009-08-29--23:01:17 <Hobbit`> that would be "a firefly"
2009-08-29--23:01:23 <Widget> :p
2009-08-29--23:01:30 <Jason2gs> Hobbit was closest, since he noted that the first letter was capitalized.
2009-08-29--23:01:35 <Jason2gs> I'm referring to the television show.
2009-08-29--23:01:56 *** Tootoot222 has joined #SRL
2009-08-29--23:01:59 <Hobbit`> 2 minutes
2009-08-29--23:02:02 * Widget forwards you to wikipedia
2009-08-29--23:02:07 <Jason2gs> Pfft.
2009-08-29--23:02:36 <Widget> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/firefly_(tv_series)
2009-08-29--23:02:39 <Widget> that's my guess
2009-08-29--23:02:42 <Widget> though i dunno if the url is right
2009-08-29--23:02:56 <Widget> oh cool, i got it
2009-08-29--23:03:09 <Widget> it's a space western i guess
2009-08-29--23:03:14 <Widget> dunno how that works
2009-08-29--23:04:29 <Widget> anyway, i'm off to bed to wake up in 2 hours
2009-08-29--23:04:31 <Widget> have fun raging
2009-08-29--23:04:35 *** Sexy sets mode: -o Widget
2009-08-29--23:04:39 *** Sexy sets mode: +h Widget
2009-08-29--23:06:44 *** Hobbit` sets mode: -b *!*@*a.b.c.d.e*
2009-08-29--23:07:33 <Widget> (i think you should unban blumblebee as well)
2009-08-29--23:11:13 <Hobbit`> I think what he did was horrid
2009-08-29--23:11:20 <Hobbit`> i will unban him in the moring
2009-08-29--23:11:22 <Hobbit`> morning
2009-08-29--23:11:27 <Hobbit`> but for now he stays banned
2009-08-29--23:13:59 *** R0b0t1 has joined #SRL
http://www.thehhd.com/irc/rizon/%23srl/August/%23srl.2009-08-29.txt

Tl;dr: Hobbit banned Blumblebee, Hobbit banned R0b0t1, no one could properly understand why R0b0t1 was banned and Hobbit wasn't really answering, I unset Hobbit's ban on R0b0t1, Hobbit raged and put it back, more arguing, talking about Firefly_(TV_Series), then I went to bed.

Edit: Whatever's going on with Freddy on SRL I seem to have missed it..

Editer:
<Zeph`> he hasn't done anything wrong..
<Widget> i can't even see what he did
<Jason2gs> Looks like Hobbit banned for [01:34:43] <@Hobbit`> Anyone else care to disrespect freddy?
<Jason2gs> Which I disagree with.

<Jason2gs> MASS DISAGREEMENT

ruler

2009-08-30 22:26:59

R0b0t1 is not qualified to make rulings. He has alot to understand.

From the only threads i have seen him at he is constantly creating conflict.

Alot of the time I think he is out of his element.

http://www.villavu.com/forum/showpost.php?p=600538&postcount=93
http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=602875#post602875

I would rather see qualified people making decisions.

MylesMadness

2009-08-30 22:37:21

And just an FYI, yakman asked him to make it:
2009-08-29–14:17:25 <yakman> anyone feel like photoshopping freddys face onto hitler?

Widget

2009-08-30 22:38:10

From: ruler
R0b0t1 is not qualified to make rulings. He has alot to understand.

From the only threads i have seen him at he is constantly creating conflict.

Alot of the time I think he is out of his element.

http://www.villavu.com/forum/showpost.php?p=600538&postcount=93
http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=602875#post602875

I would rather see qualified people making decisions.


I think this is more of a problem between the IRC Ops since me, Zeph, and Jason all disagreed with Hobbit there.

R0b0t1 was the one banned, and he's the one that's having problems with it (since it directly affects him), so we're left to attempt to resolve drama over here which probably won't go away.

Laur€ns

2009-08-30 22:49:05

From: MylesMadness
And just an FYI, yakman asked him to make it:


I expected some more maturity from yakman..

Torrent of Flame

2009-08-30 22:55:29

#SRL-Problems. Join now to sort out problems.

Markus

2009-09-01 18:23:24

From: Harry
Of course they can. Does it mean they SHOULD though?

yes.
closed

Sir R. M8gic1an

2009-09-01 18:27:46

From: ruler
R0b0t1 is not qualified to make rulings. He has alot to understand.

From the only threads i have seen him at he is constantly creating conflict.

Alot of the time I think he is out of his element.

http://www.villavu.com/forum/showpost.php?p=600538&postcount=93
http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=602875#post602875

I would rather see qualified people making decisions.


Rep+ as un-admin like as that may sound.

~RM