SRL Archive - Discussions and Debates

As pointed out in another thread there may be a new use for our autoers.

As Baked0420 has pointed out its not too late to try and start/restart this.
There are several replies with people interested in this idea.

If there enough people we could get this going?.
Maybe a sub-forum for SRL Merch?.

Current Interests:
(9 People)
Rogeruk
J_Pizzle
MylesMadness
Awkwardsaw
Baked0420
Pure1993
The Man
[JS]
lancerawks aka Lance

id be fine with that i like to make money lol

Im up, I hate the public groups. I was in one, and the mods decided to lower the price 1 GP. Well everyone who had no idea what they were doing panicked and sold, losing me 1m. It was a great time…

are we going to use an auto-mercher? i'm in the process of making a personal one more myself, i wouldn't mind sharing once its done

also im in, as stated in the other thread

From: Awkwardsaw
are we going to use an auto-mercher? i'm in the process of making a personal one more myself, i wouldn't mind sharing once its done

also im in, as stated in the other thread

Auto mercher? If its what I think it is, I was thinking about this last night. PM what it is if you don't want to say it

simply something that logs in, checks offers, then puts up a buy and/ or sell offer. logs out, switches players, repeats, and it does that until a max time or max cycles.

i finished it practicly, i just need to test stuff. its very simple imo :p

I'm in, I think we should make a SRL group, just for organization, if there isn't a subforum. I think there should be a subforum added for srl members though, as an extra benifit of being a member.


EDIT: Will there be one person in charge of the new item? I think it should be discussed the new item, maybe everyone throw in there idea of what to merch, then maybe a reason for that item, maybe not, and we just have a one day poll for the item after we get like say, 5 different items.

I think it should be discussed what the new item will be.

Biggest problem is that people dont sell untill we are all ready to sell. Otherwise we are stuck with goods that wont sell.

F2P yes?

From: rogeruk
I think it should be discussed what the new item will be.

Biggest problem is that people dont sell untill we are all ready to sell. Otherwise we are stuck with goods that wont sell.

F2P yes?

+1

asfg

Agreed.
btw, while looking through the GE, I noticed that Talismans and Tiaras ( fire tiaras and talismans seem quite decent atm ) are very good to merchant by manipulating the price.
Advantage:
-F2P
-They will be demanded no matter what the price will be
-The supply isn't that big
Disadvantage:
-The supply is quite constant, you we need enough money to buy the entire supply and to keep on doing that for a couple of weeks. If not enough people should participate though, the price won't rise enough and it would kill the entire plan.

Im in :)
Just tell me what to do :p

T~M

Im in aswell i put up a post about finding merch clan a couple weeks ago so this is perfect for me :)

im in :D i only have like 1 mill to donate to the cause though =/ maybe some of your richer folk can do better :P

Talismans are common items to be merched.

I have been looking at gold amulet and gold necklaces.

Gold amulet current price (mid) 211
(05 Jul it rose to 360).

149 profit on each one.

Not being cheeky, but estimated money to invest?

9 People interested, maybe we could get this to work. Depends if we have enough money

Admins any chance of a subforum for SRL Merch?.

From: rogeruk
Talismans are common items to be merched.

I have been looking at gold amulet and gold necklaces.

Gold amulet current price (mid) 211
(05 Jul it rose to 360).

149 profit on each one.

Not being cheeky, but estimated money to invest?

9 People interested, maybe we could get this to work. Depends if we have enough money

Admins any chance of a subforum for SRL Merch?.

Erm, question is, after we empty the market and the price has risen to 360gp each, who will buy these off us again? I really can't see any use for them which buyers might be willing to spend 360 a piece for… please enlighten me… :D

Well your betting on hoping that people will jump on the bagwagon and notice them going up and buying them

Merch clans are pretty much scamming, they get loads of people to buy. Then once its high enough the leaders sell, where the normal players are still buying = sell + profit.

From: rogeruk
Well your betting on hoping that people will jump on the bagwagon and notice them going up and buying them

Merch clans are pretty much scamming, they get loads of people to buy. Then once its high enough the leaders sell, where the normal players are still buying = sell + profit.

Ah, okay. Well, up till now I have only done some merchanting with some other clans who bought items which would be bought at almost any price, because it takes too long to gather it themselves (example: prayer pots and rannars). there are two sides to this… the negativ is that it takes huge ammounts of money to buy the entire supply, but the positive side is that once you controll the market, you can sell them in the normal player to player trade, max trade of course. This doesn't affect the market at all, and you make quite a bit of cash on the side. :D

Exactly the perfect thing is to find something that people need.

Iron ore etc. Maybe strength potions once they drop down because for F2P pking thats a must.

we could make it go the way we want were a otting community we could bot a ton of some meterial on noob accounts and then sell them at low so the prices go down and then buy them on our mains and then wait for the price to rise back up and make money that way

In!

From: J_Pizzle
we could make it go the way we want were a otting community we could bot a ton of some meterial on noob accounts and then sell them at low so the prices go down and then buy them on our mains and then wait for the price to rise back up and make money that way

Pretty good idea, actually. Although you would need a lot of people to do that.

I dont think we would be able to control the market that way.

Only way to do it is to hold the item. Buy all of the item that way supply and demand makes the price go up.

We could easily make an auto updater (with auth, of course) to tell people (that are part of the merchanting) what the current item is. It could be real-time.. (Instead of having a subforum).

OR we can make a script, that checks the item being merched, buys at the price, and at the dump date / update, it sells.

so like, all you need to do is turn on the script and it will do every thing for you.

:) i already have a mercher, but its pretty user-set up based

Subforum be better, give us better place to talk rather than on one hudge thread.

So what we doing with this

idc what we do with it a subforum would be nice

ians idea would be kool to but w/e we do we still need a mod to look at this thread and give us permission

Im in. I got 27m and 3m in junk. Im ready for this bad bitch.

From: kingarabian
Im in. I got 27m and 3m in junk. Im ready for this bad bitch.

lmao this bad bitch bahaha

that shit is funny.

ok so sence no one here is doing anything with it i will i am ging to create a very nice and easy forum and everyone here who sends me a PM confirming who they are on my site will get admin so they can post what they think is merchable


ill post link in alittle bit


http://srlmerching.webs.com/

Just a quick clear-up.
So we will(me not, I am thinking of it) use autoing armies to gain money with. And then we will be merchanting with our bots but the mains will gain the advantage. Like it's a public clan. The mains are the leaders, the bots are the scammed people.
Because there is some post here sound like this will be a simple merchanting with mains.
So can anybody clear it for me?(or for others too)

From: Sabzi
Just a quick clear-up.
So we will(me not, I am thinking of it) use autoing armies to gain money with. And then we will be merchanting with our bots but the mains will gain the advantage. Like it's a public clan. The mains are the leaders, the bots are the scammed people.
Because there is some post here sound like this will be a simple merchanting with mains.
So can anybody clear it for me?(or for others too)

ummm idk how its set up

i was thinking we could just auto say abunch of iron ore and then sell that at low price the price will goe down we buy on our mains and wait for the price to return to normal and sell for profit

I have just re-read this:
http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43503
the thread that we restart here(no?).
And it says more or less what I said.
But your idea is good.
I would add to it. So we sell our autoed goods with the bots = bot got money, price go down.
We buy with mains from bots on lowest price(in ge).
Than the bots buy it again on max price to make it rising.
We sell with our mains, either to our bots or to others because of demand. Enough bot can make this in my opinion.
But I am not good at merchanting so a more professional idea would be better.

J_Pizzle. That will not work.

Sabzi, yes. That is the whole idea.

Lets say item is Iron Ore. ALL our mains buy out the item.. Hopefully within 1 or 2 days the price will rise. Once it does we either set our bots to bot the iron ore or simply buy it out via GE.

This will make the price rise by silling ammounts. People will notice this and jump on the bag wagon. Once it has reached its dump price we sell.

Hopefully if we drop at the right time, loads of people wil be still buying. But since we just unloaded a shit load of item the grand exchange should kick it with its supply/demand system. Price should decrease.

Mains make a winner because they bought at X and sold at X making X profit on each. More you buy the more profit you get.

Dont think its a good idea to setup a forum, it would be nice to keep this inside SRL.

Clear, thanks. That's what I was think.
I will be in, not sure. I'm setting up an army nowadays. I will see how it does.

I think it would be a good idea to test our power over the market.

If we could get everyone to buy a certain item on their bots (Where they dont mind loosing money) and see if we can get the GE to change its price.

If we can then we can buy the items with our main.

If you need a forum, I could make a sub-forum on my forums for this..
Rogeruk, tell me what to do and I will hopefully do it…

T~M

How about a clan chat that only members know?

From: MylesMadness
How about a clan chat that only members know?

+1 thats a great idea. someone make an acc and make people ranked so if it does leek only ranked members can talk and see whats typed

I can, I just need to know everyones Runescape name

Edit: Or a better idea, just don't share it outside of SRL members

is this thing gonna start?

Sounds Great.

I'd like to join. My Army isnt rich yet though :'D.. I'ts still killing chickens till everyone is on combar lvl 40.

yea really, let's get this thing started, we can obviously see people are interested. Has anyone suggested to a mod yet bout the idea of a subforum?

I just realized you need money to dump so Im autoing right now (Thanks Tad). I got 1m to far, but I still got a couple hours of ess to go.

myles have u made the clan yet?

Problem with clan chat = your autoers will be known.

If we could get a sub forum on here then that would be awsome.

I don't think there should be a clan anyway, there'll probably be immature kids complaining bout stupid stuff, like ranks, or being kicked or kicking or something. We should just leave it on here, in my opinion.

Exactly, good point.

From: Baked0420
I don't think there should be a clan anyway, there'll probably be immature kids complaining bout stupid stuff, like ranks, or being kicked or kicking or something. We should just leave it on here, in my opinion.

correct..

btw.

does anyone have an idea how expensive the fun gotta be ?
Like for the air tiaras for example. How much would it cost to buy them all, more than 200m ?

~caused

Not sure. But if we give it a test then its only autoed money that we are playing with.

See if we got enough power to make it shift.

r we gonna get this going

we could just use a RS clan if u wanted to

Talking with Wizzup?

Might have to host it off forums.

we could the site i made for it lol


http://srlmerching.webs.com/

From: rogeruk
Talking with Wizzup?

Might have to host it off forums.

There's no need to host it on other forums, I can create the sections.
I just want to know what the plans are exactly. :)

At the moment i think the plans are simply to test how much control we CAN have over the market.

We are going to have to decide on an item and buy it out. Wait untill the price increases and simply sell it.

If this works, our macroers/bots will make profit.

If it does work theres no reason why our mains cant join in. Buy the item BEFORE our bots buy them out. This way the mains will have an head start. Buy out the item with our macroers like 5 days later. Causing the price to increase.

Once we see there is enough profit being made, mains can sell their items. Either causing our macroers to get the items because they are still buying. Merchanters will be buying the item cause they will see it going up on grand exchange.

Worst scenario is that we get left with crap items that will sell slowly.

If we can target items which are in demand such as - cowhide, gold bars, gold ore, leather etc then i dont see why it shouldnt work.

Im not sure about the whole RS clan thing as it will give people our macroer names and people could just report us.

Thats the best i can describe at the moment because we have no clue on how much we can actually alter the items. Merch clans reckon they have over 100M+ do control the prices.

im keen i got 60mill coin i dont realy need atm that should help make a dent?

From: JiveTonto@Gmail.com
im keen i got 60mill coin i dont realy need atm that should help make a dent?

Lol, you are getting close to a single person merchanting clan with that cash. ;)
Anyway, got a little over 2m on each autoer of my money making army…. name the item and let's test this thing. :)

Fire talisman looks good.

My army got about 10m now :'D .. Lets make a plan and start ;)?

~caused

Suggestions of item then? :P)

http://itemdb-rs.runescape.com/Body_talisman/viewitem.ws?obj=1446

?

Basicly anything that has a constant "moving up and down" curve is good right =).

We buy when its at the lowest point, and cause the highest point to become higher ?

~caused

// oh, im finding this interesting :'D .. seems like someones controlling the market of them gloves xD

http://itemdb-rs.runescape.com/Leather_gloves/viewitem.ws?obj=1059

Body Talisman is bad, its currently at 547. Its max in 90 days was 552.

Looks like a clan is already trying that one.

umm the item i say we do is…. gold bars

http://itemdb-rs.runescape.com/Gold_bar/viewitem.ws?obj=2357

idk if thats good or not but we could buy at high and then dump at 3.5k maybe

im keen 4 gold bars i just threw 40mill at them in the ge so dont ditch me lol

please dont lol now i have 170k gold bars roughly,sold out quick as 4 me

soz for triple reply im just nervous lol this is my main and his spending money so dont leave me hanging and heres a screeny of it just to prove it

Alright, I'll join ya :)

i just dropeed a nother 10 mill in on a nother account

remember no one sells,we sell togeATHER

erm, I am buying them instantly for less than max… more people need to buy these right now….

Lol this was a discussion for the item not actually buying it….

/Fail

my accounts are limited to 10k purchases aT a time cause of gay jagex and there anti market control system

Why did you even buy gold bars?. It wasnt agreed that was the item.

You know why you are instantly buying them?. Because people are getting rid of them.

I wont be buying any

meh ill just auto a few more mill to cominsate for the loss lol and buy more

Yea great, you just killed any chance of SRL Merch.

The item was in discussion as in asking people if they thought the item was good and you just went ahead and bought the item anyway?. Thats not how its suppose to work.

So well done to you.

way to make the price go up before we could even buy…

hasnt gone up yet……………. its on a 12hour cycle and also if someone didnt do somehting we would still be deciding for years

So you took it on yourself to just buy and expect other people to follow you?. Thats not how it is.

The process of picking the item is suppose to be between those who are involved. Not just YOU.

Who are you to say you should have done something. Today was the first day in decided the item how is that years?.

it just would of …and who am i to decide if im todo something well im my self

In English please?

I'll do it.

lol u bought out the whole stalk lol

So we all given up on this now then? Just buy any items you want and hope they go up?

From: rogeruk
So we all given up on this now then? Just buy any items you want and hope they go up?

Na, I havn't. We just got to find a real item

im still in lol

Brass key is on its way down, might be a few days before it hits bottom tho.

• Brass Key
• Banana
• Uncut Sapphire
• Soft Clay?
• Air Talisman

From: rogeruk
Brass key is on its way down, might be a few days before it hits bottom tho.

• Brass Key
• Uncut Sapphire
• Soft Clay?
• Air Talisman

ive looked at them and these are the ones that could work

bananas are to easy to get


but other than that all those lok good to me

so any decision on item?

not yet but im kinda likeing the uncut saphire

So you took it on yourself to just buy and expect other people to follow you?. Thats not how it is.

The process of picking the item is suppose to be between those who are involved. Not just YOU.

Who are you to say you should have done something. Today was the first day in decided the item how is that years?.

really dude? 3 out of the 6 or so people that are actually doing this agreed/suggested it. gtf over it. shit has gone nowhere for almost 2 weeks now if anything u should be happy people ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO FIND AN ITEM!

thank you i still have my 50mill total investment in them but i dont mind if i loose a bit on them because illl just hold them for a while =D

holy hell price of gold bars has increased 4gp guys all ready,look how quick this is i liky lol,just as a test i tryed to sell a gold bar ( with all my orders removed) and it worked at max price so unless any oen else here is buying them at 240 we makin proffit

From: [JS]
really dude? 3 out of the 6 or so people that are actually doing this agreed/suggested it. gtf over it. shit has gone nowhere for almost 2 weeks now if anything u should be happy people ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO FIND AN ITEM!

Really dude? Who has been the one trying to convince Wizzup? that you SRL Members are capable of doing such a thing?… Me.

Yea, and now this has happened who looks like the twat?. Me.

There are over 12 people who are in on this. Not just you and him. Gold bar is a stupid item because unless u sell before other merchanting clans then your stuck with them

I thought SRL Members would be able to organise a simply little task of waiting untill an item is agreed between more than just 1 person.

Trying to find an item? Oh yes thats how it works lets go onto runescape and find ANY item. Please if you dont have a clue what your going then GTFO

So you can shut your mouth.

[email]JiveTonto@Gmail.com[/email] learn to use the Edit button.

I say motion for everyone to buy gold bars

I'm with you rogeruk!
And I really encourage the subforum. Why?

• It would get more attention -> more player -> more money -> more influence.
• There could be someone, a thread mod who is good at merchanting (maybe you rogeruk as you started this thread?) who makes poll of items he thinks is good. The items can be advised by others of course.

I know it's not upon you because you can't make sub-forums. But I hope that one more post about it can help.

From: IceFire908
I say motion for everyone to buy gold bars

oh rouge is that another one?

Really dude? Who has been the one trying to convince Wizzup? that you SRL Members are capable of doing such a thing?… Me.

Yea, and now this has happened who looks like the twat?. Me.

There are over 12 people who are in on this. Not just you and him. Gold bar is a stupid item because unless u sell before other merchanting clans then your stuck with them

I thought SRL Members would be able to organise a simply little task of waiting untill an item is agreed between more than just 1 person.

Trying to find an item? Oh yes thats how it works lets go onto runescape and find ANY item. Please if you dont have a clue what your going then GTFO

So you can shut your mouth.

First off im not even in this bullshit anymore. The only thing you've done is started a thread. I dont see any other Sub-Forum of any kind that even comes close to merching besides this thread.

Secondly, You made no motion towards even trying with the gold bars. FFS 4 outta 7 people are doing it yet the other 3 are still "undecided" for what going on 3 weeks now.

gimme a fuckin break man. you started a thread and half the people are doing what you want. MERCHING.

I think ive done more than anyone else here. I been trying to convince Wizzup? that having a sub forum and doing this was a good idea. Besides that isnt the point here, we are a community and we should be doing this together.
The main concern was people who wont contribute and people selling pre-maturely.

I dont think its down to 1 person to pick the item it should be a majority decision to those who are involved.

I was in no financial state to even buy the gold bars thats why i have not bought any. I was not expecting someone just to buy them out and then tell people to buy.

It needs to be well timed, to make sure we buy out the same time, the same price change cycle.

Has anyone checked if there is any other merch clans doing gold bars?. Checked their dump prices? Do you know that most clans drop 10% of the items every price change?.

I just believe that we can actually get this working aslong as we can discuss potential items and then make a day+time where we are going to buy out the item. Plus discussion of dump price.

well decide a bloody item and then we cqan dump these gold bars and do the one u want us to gosh

From: rogeruk
I think ive done more than anyone else here. I been trying to convince Wizzup? that having a sub forum and doing this was a good idea. Besides that isnt the point here, we are a community and we should be doing this together.
The main concern was people who wont contribute and people selling pre-maturely.

I dont think its down to 1 person to pick the item it should be a majority decision to those who are involved.

I was in no financial state to even buy the gold bars thats why i have not bought any. I was not expecting someone just to buy them out and then tell people to buy.

It needs to be well timed, to make sure we buy out the same time, the same price change cycle.

Has anyone checked if there is any other merch clans doing gold bars?. Checked their dump prices? Do you know that most clans drop 10% of the items every price change?.

I just believe that we can actually get this working aslong as we can discuss potential items and then make a day+time where we are going to buy out the item. Plus discussion of dump price.

+1 for the most part and i agree with Sabzi that we should have 1 or maybe even a few mods discuss an item and then post a poll saying the choices and explain each reason they chose it and then have the members vote on the item cause doing what we are doing is going no where

well can someone set out whats going to happen and whos in charge?>

well a quick look and i dont knwo who else invested but change is happening

Edit your posts instead of posting a new one…

That wasnt just buy you buying them. Another clan prob merching them.

same day i decided to? and how come no reply to my questions then? who are we going to let guiude us? chosen a item? come on

Check the other clans, its a common item to be merched. Im not saying its a bad item just it wasnt properly organised. No1 was ready to buy apart from you and another.

Chill, things are happening. Im trying to get subforums for SRL Merch.

ya should try keep people up 2 date then

I am, i said im in talks with Wizzup? Thats what i been doing.

well howlong it going 2 take roughly

From: JiveTonto@Gmail.com
well howlong it going 2 take roughly

how would he know hes not Wizzup

I just want to point out that all items have a buying cap. For example, you can only buy something like 25k fire runes at once, then you have to wait for so long (like a half hour) until you can buy more. We can't pick something too common because of this, and gold bars might be too common =\.

I suggest something similar to Dragonstones, since there's quite a few of them but you can't just randomly make them (like gold bars). Of course, we might run out of dragonstones and not everyone would be able to buy enough right away, but we could just hold for longer because of it and stretch our prices out more :)

Also, we should wait until there's a subforum for this before we start, otherwise everything will be all disorganized.

Edit: http://itemdb-rs.runescape.com/Uncut_dragonstone/viewitem.ws?obj=1631&scale=2
Looks like a clan had that for a full month and got 300% gains on it xD

From: Widget
I just want to point out that all items have a buying cap. For example, you can only buy something like 25k fire runes at once, then you have to wait for so long (like a half hour) until you can buy more.

The time is 4 hour. And the limit:
http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Exchange

Also it was said that we first buy with our mains and just THEN we bump the item with botted money. Or something like that. Although I don't got any army-money at the moment. Working on it.

Lets wait for the subforums then we can suggest items and find one we all agree on and then try it

From: rogeruk
Lets wait for the subforums then we can suggest items and find one we all agree on and then try it

So now there will definitely be a subforum for this? That's cool, can't wait.

Hopefully :) :).

well let's just hope it's not like the black market, Markus just posted "after months of preperation…". I would rather not wait months for something that's as easy as posting up a few items, voting, buying and selling. ;)

It's that easy when people don't jump the gun anyway :p

still going,im just wonding who else other than me is doing this?

JiveTonto, There are thousands of people who watchs the graphs daily, not just this community. Even before we had the idea of SRL merch I had a hawk eye on the graph and would invest on things at low points, most likely it's some people solo merching and maybe a clan or two merching.

hows the sub forum coming along?

Waiting for Wizzup? to get back to me. Prob busy with Black Market and such

alright

have u given any thought to how it would work like owuld we have a few mods and then have the mods pick an item and then have the others vote on it or?

Well merch members would just recommend items, can just vote on wether you think its a good idea or not with valid reasons.

Need to keep an eye on items that are in good demand. Not things like eggs lol cause no1 buys eggs.

ya but if we have to many members then that would be to many people suggesting items

i think this mite eb the ladt bit i buy for a while so ive got only a nother 5mill in the ge once that runs out we can c if it continues

From: JiveTonto@Gmail.com
i think this mite eb the ladt bit i buy for a while so ive got only a nother 5mill in the ge once that runs out we can c if it continues

What? I just can't understand those parts.
This is not runescape chatting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLVGmvmNitg#movie_player From 16:58
No offence but I really, hardly understand you. Not just this post.

Translated into:

I think this might be a tad bit late, ive got another 5 mill in ge buying gold bars once thats done we can see if it continues

I think he thinks he is the one making the price go up… lol

Sub-Forums up and running.

Close? :)

Enjoy.

~RM