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I just wanted to know if anyone here has heard or it , its homesite is http://kbot.info , I wanna know some about it, if its good , what language they use etc, well if someone is on that community , they may save me time on registering there and all that stuff…

Thanks!:norris:

It's a Java bot, like RSBot. It functions in pretty much the same way, by injecting accessor methods into the game client to retrieve field information. Personally I think that both the bot and the community are better than what RSBot has to offer.

KBot was made by people at RSBot who got fed up with all the leechers at RSBot.

(So it's almost exactly the same. Just a few more features like tabs)..

Thanks method joining it atm!

Feels a bit too much like fagex meets sythe for me…

From: Ruroken
Feels a bit too much like fagex meets sythe for me…

KBot doesn't have a plethora of forums offering random guides nor a black market filled with scammers. Neither Sythe nor Fagex have a bot associated with them anyways, so how would you ever get that impression?

I use it sometimes, it is pretty good. You can run like 4 bots at once, and see all 4 together on Spectator view. It also beats the invisible NPC thing that much RSBot-people got banned :)

Oh! thanks everyone for answering :D , well sounds like its a little RsBot-Like just less known or something, gotta try it out to see how is it like :p

They have an IRC channel go to irc.rizon.net and join #kbot

Wasn't there some keylogger hassle about KBot? :(

From: n3ss3s
Wasn't there some keylogger hassle about KBot? :(

I believe so, because I used it once and my main "disappeared"

From: Buckleyindahouse
I believe so, because I used it once and my main "disappeared"

Lol.
Epic leechor :p.(ofc not)

That is pretty funny, tbh.

From: n3ss3s
Wasn't there some keylogger hassle about KBot? :(

From what I understand the staff at RSBot spread that rumor as propaganda against KBot without really proving anything was wrong.

I was wondering is theres actually anyone here who is an active member or uses KBot also often to know if its good, I was thinking on a post on RsBot that appeared by the massive ban days, it was kind of a feedback of what Jagex said , and they mentioned every other Autoing communities , including SRL, and I was like wtf…RsBot was going down and wanted to bring all others down together with them…

From: Method
KBot doesn't have a plethora of forums offering random guides nor a black market filled with scammers. Neither Sythe nor Fagex have a bot associated with them anyways, so how would you ever get that impression?

Same look to the forum interface, massive signatures, and the same kind of user base.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking them; I just like here better. :rolleyes:

Ive used and scripted for kbot since it has come out and I never got my accounts stolen :S. I got one account banned for picking 57k potatoes but it was expected. Overall it's a great bot, you guys should check it out and try my potato picking script :-).

Screw kbot just use scar

From: cycrosism
Screw kbot just use scar

^ ^ ^ Kbot should be popular if it's good never heard of it.

From: ~~Joker~~
^ ^ ^ Kbot should be popular if it's good never heard of it.

A lot of people haven't ever heard of SCAR, either. KBot is made by ex-developer's/mods/admins from RSBot. It's better than RSBot. RSBot is popular and used by a lot of people, so KBot should be better, in theory.

From: Dracody
I was wondering is theres actually anyone here who is an active member or uses KBot also often to know if its good, I was thinking on a post on RsBot that appeared by the massive ban days, it was kind of a feedback of what Jagex said , and they mentioned every other Autoing communities , including SRL, and I was like wtf…RsBot was going down and wanted to bring all others down together with them…

Jagex has always known about SRL… It's not like we are trying to hide ourselves or anything…

Looks promising. :)

From: Ron
Looks promising. :)

Yep, i mainly use it for gathering tiles, but i do to believe kbot owns rsbot.

I'm pretty sure its RSBoT, but they added reflection. Correct me if i'm wrong.

From: BjRobMan
I'm pretty sure its RSBoT, but they added reflection. Correct me if i'm wrong.

Ermm.. you're wrong, I think. Why would a Java bot add Reflection? =X Reflection is for SCAR, is it not?

Uhhhh nooooo.

Reflection is a method of retrieving data from the client. It's just a part of Java programming.

Why would a Java bot add reflection? Because it's undetectable, unlike BCEL.

From: Infintry001
Uhhhh nooooo.

Reflection is a method of retrieving data from the client. It's just a part of Java programming.

Why would a Java bot add reflection? Because it's undetectable, unlike BCEL.

If BCEL was detectable, why would so many people, including the developers of Java bots, use/make it? I just don't see any factual evidence backing that up… I doubt RSBot or KBot have a higher bans per user rate than SCAR/SRL or iBot/Nexus

I made scripts with rsbot and with SCAR. Used SCAR for 2 years now, no bans from it. Used RSBot for.. 1 month? 4 bans. Private scripts, made by myself with sufficient antiban and breaks. It seems that RSBot is pretty bannable?

I've had about 5 unexpected bans from Scar/SRL, and 0 from RSBot. Granted, I only used RSBot for like 3 months, and never abused it. Scar I've been using for 2 years and slight abuse (varies from 6-10 hours a day on the bans) got me banned a couple times.

If BCEL was detectable I would have been banned regardless of how long I autoed.

From: 3Garrett3
I made scripts with rsbot and with SCAR. Used SCAR for 2 years now, no bans from it. Used RSBot for.. 1 month? 4 bans. Private scripts, made by myself with sufficient antiban and breaks. It seems that RSBot is pretty bannable?

BreakHandler = ban city.
Disable that, thats what got your bans.

I got 4 rsbotters and they all have atleast 3m and almost 60 in each F2p skill except combat which they're all pures.

I run them day and night for about 2 months now and no bans.

I didnt really like the community anyway, so it wasn't worth staying. Why is Breakhandler a ban?

From: Tad
I've had about 5 unexpected bans from Scar/SRL, and 0 from RSBot. Granted, I only used RSBot for like 3 months, and never abused it. Scar I've been using for 2 years and slight abuse (varies from 6-10 hours a day on the bans) got me banned a couple times.

If BCEL was detectable I would have been banned regardless of how long I autoed.

Sorry to say this but when your main 99 woodcutter got banned it was because of your script. It clicked the same tiles for the trees every time.

From: mormonman
Sorry to say this but when your main 99 woodcutter got banned it was because of your script. It clicked the same tiles for the trees every time.

It got banned ~1 month after that. Also it clicks one of the four tiles, not the same one :cartman:

From: Tad
It got banned ~1 month after that. Also it clicks one of the four tiles, not the same one :cartman:

Not true, when you first released it, and when you were mostly using it, it did click the same tile. I read the code.

From: mormonman
Not true, when you first released it, and when you were mostly using it, it did click the same tile. I read the code.

Oh :o Yeah until V1.2 I think it was clicking the same one because I accidentally had random(1) instead of random(2) (First script ftl). Why didn't you say anything -.- Lol. Either way I don't it was because of that, it was because I abused it (for instance, 19 hour proggy, then I got 99 fletching right after that).

This is pointless, from what is KBot to reflection vs. BCEL to BCEL is detectable to SRL scripts getting you banned… The point I was trying to make is that BCEL is not detectable in itself.

From: Tad
This is pointless, from what is KBot to reflection vs. BCEL to BCEL is detectable to SRL scripts getting you banned… The point I was trying to make is that BCEL is not detectable in itself.

Sure it could be. They use reflection to gather information about fields and methods and send that information to the server, and it is very plausible that they could discover injected class members in that way.

From: Method
Sure it could be. They use reflection to gather information about fields and methods and send that information to the server, and it is very plausible that they could discover injected class members in that way.

Oh. Do you think Jagex actually does though? What I don't understand is why wouldn't they just immediately ban anyone detected to be using BCEL, which is why I'm having a hard time believing that BCEL in itself is detectable..

EDIT: Also, if this were true, why would the Devs of RSBot and KBot make the bots if they could be so easily combated?

Here's a partially refactored version of the method (in the current client) that sends that information to the server. I'll see if I can work on it some more later, but I have to go right now.

static final void method866(int i, PacketStream packetStream)
	{
		anInt3202++;
		do
		{
			Class101_Sub26 class101_sub26 = (Class101_Sub26)Class101_Sub13_Sub38.aClass13_4886.method211(0);
			if(class101_sub26 == null)
				return;
			boolean flag1 = false;
			for(int j = 0; ~class101_sub26.anInt3668 < ~j; j++)
			{
				if(class101_sub26.aClass97Array3675[j] != null)
				{
					if(class101_sub26.aClass97Array3675[j].anInt1748 == 2)
						class101_sub26.anIntArray3665[j] = -5;
					if(class101_sub26.aClass97Array3675[j].anInt1748 == 0)
						flag1 = true;
				}
				if(class101_sub26.aClass97Array3664[j] != null)
				{
					if(class101_sub26.aClass97Array3664[j].anInt1748 == 2)
						class101_sub26.anIntArray3665[j] = -6;
					if(class101_sub26.aClass97Array3664[j].anInt1748 == 0)
						flag1 = true;
				}
			}

			if(flag1)
				return;
			packetStream.writePacketOpcode(i);
			packetStream.writeByte(0);
			int k = ((Stream) (packetStream)).position;
			packetStream.writeInt(class101_sub26.anInt3678);
			for(int l = 0; l < class101_sub26.anInt3668; l++)
				if(class101_sub26.anIntArray3665[l] != 0)
					packetStream.writeByte(class101_sub26.anIntArray3665[l]);
				else
					try
					{
						int i1 = class101_sub26.anIntArray3680[l];
						if(i1 != 0)
						{
							if(~i1 != -2)
							{
								if(~i1 == -3)
								{
									Field field = (Field)class101_sub26.aClass97Array3675[l].anObject1746;
									int j1 = field.getModifiers();
									packetStream.writeByte(0);
									packetStream.writeInt(j1);
								}
							} else
							{
								Field field1 = (Field)class101_sub26.aClass97Array3675[l].anObject1746;
								field1.setInt(null, class101_sub26.anIntArray3672[l]);
								packetStream.writeByte(0);
							}
						} else
						{
							Field field2 = (Field)class101_sub26.aClass97Array3675[l].anObject1746;
							int k1 = field2.getInt(null);
							packetStream.writeByte(0);
							packetStream.writeInt(k1);
						}
						if(i1 == 3)
						{
							Method method = (Method)class101_sub26.aClass97Array3664[l].anObject1746;
							byte abyte0[][] = class101_sub26.aByteArrayArrayArray3676[l];
							Object aobj[] = new Object[abyte0.length];
							for(int i2 = 0; i2 < abyte0.length; i2++)
							{
								ObjectInputStream objectinputstream = new ObjectInputStream(new ByteArrayInputStream(abyte0[i2]));
								aobj[i2] = objectinputstream.readObject();
							}

							Object obj = method.invoke(null, aobj);
							if(obj == null)
								packetStream.writeByte(0);
							else
							if(obj instanceof Number)
							{
								packetStream.writeByte(1);
								packetStream.writeLong(((Number)obj).longValue());
							} else
							if(!(obj instanceof String))
							{
								packetStream.writeByte(4);
							} else
							{
								packetStream.writeByte(2);
								packetStream.writeString((String)obj);
							}
						} else
						if(i1 == 4)
						{
							Method method1 = (Method)class101_sub26.aClass97Array3664[l].anObject1746;
							int l1 = method1.getModifiers();
							packetStream.writeByte(0);
							packetStream.writeInt(l1);
						}
					}
					catch(ClassNotFoundException _ex)
					{
						packetStream.writeByte(-10);
					}
					catch(InvalidClassException _ex)
					{
						packetStream.writeByte(-11);
					}
					catch(StreamCorruptedException _ex)
					{
						packetStream.writeByte(-12);
					}
					catch(OptionalDataException _ex)
					{
						packetStream.writeByte(-13);
					}
					catch(IllegalAccessException _ex)
					{
						packetStream.writeByte(-14);
					}
					catch(IllegalArgumentException _ex)
					{
						packetStream.writeByte(-15);
					}
					catch(InvocationTargetException _ex)
					{
						packetStream.writeByte(-16);
					}
					catch(SecurityException _ex)
					{
						packetStream.writeByte(-17);
					}
					catch(IOException _ex)
					{
						packetStream.writeByte(-18);
					}
					catch(NullPointerException _ex)
					{
						packetStream.writeByte(-19);
					}
					catch(Exception _ex)
					{
						packetStream.writeByte(-20);
					}
					catch(Throwable _ex)
					{
						packetStream.writeByte(-21);
					}

			packetStream.writeChecksum(k);
			packetStream.writeByteAt(((Stream) (packetStream)).position + -k);
			class101_sub26.method1029();
		} while(true);
	}

From: Tad
Oh. Do you think Jagex actually does though? What I don't understand is why wouldn't they just immediately ban anyone detected to be using BCEL, which is why I'm having a hard time believing that BCEL in itself is detectable..

EDIT: Also, if this were true, why would the Devs of RSBot and KBot make the bots if they could be so easily combated?

Maybe it isn't like "Oh hey they are using a bot", but it takes them time to look through the patterns and decide that they are using BCEL. The still makes it detectable, but not instantly.

From: mormonman
Maybe it isn't like "Oh hey they are using a bot", but it takes them time to look through the patterns and decide that they are using BCEL. The still makes it detectable, but not instantly.

Which would mean that, in essence, it is no different maybe not even more effective from Jagex trying to detect SRL's botty patterns, no?

Method - Sorry, no idea what that means :p

Lets ask jagex…

From: 3Garrett3
I didnt really like the community anyway, so it wasn't worth staying. Why is Breakhandler a ban?

You don't click the logout button, you just time out and your break patterns are pretty much the same over and over.
Also it fits the break patterns of other banned bots.

From: Tad
Which would mean that, in essence, it is no different maybe not even more effective from Jagex trying to detect SRL's botty patterns, no?

Method - Sorry, no idea what that means :p

It means it checks for if the client was changed, and sends it to a server, there for making bcel instaban if they would put 3 minutes of work into it.

From: MylesMadness
It means it checks for if the client was changed, and sends it to a server, there for making bcel instaban if they would put 3 minutes of work into it.

Which brings us back to….

From: Tad
Oh. Do you think Jagex actually does though? What I don't understand is why wouldn't they just immediately ban anyone detected to be using BCEL, which is why I'm having a hard time believing that BCEL in itself is detectable..

EDIT: Also, if this were true, why would the Devs of RSBot and KBot make the bots if they could be so easily combated?

Gravedigging a lil :X
I just discovered and started to use KBot and I've noticed most of it's scripts are a lot better and faster than Scar's ones :S and it solves all the randoms too.

Is there any reason to use Scar instead of KBot nowadays? lol..

From: Nebuli
Gravedigging a lil :X
I just discovered and started to use KBot and I've noticed most of it's scripts are a lot better and faster than Scar's ones :S and it solves all the randoms too.

Is there any reason to use Scar instead of KBot nowadays? lol..

Search for "Why srl/scar?" threads. There are a couple of thread like that question, with 50+(or maybe more) good posts. Good read if you ask me.

It's hard to answer that question in one post sorry. :redface:

SCAR scripts are all open, as is SRL, and Simba's all open, and so if you know much about scripting, it's possible to fix bugs at updates, change ANYTHING to be specifically to your liking, and make scripts faster by changing the mouse speed, waits, etc. :) Also, you can always make whatever you want with SCAR/SRL/Simba.

I think a lot of people here script for the challenge. I still even refrain from using reflection in SIMBA, because then it would be too easy. :P