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Request from Da 0wner


Richard

2009-07-24 18:00:37

Da 0wner posted this on ZaszMedia, and asked me if I could post it here:

I have recently been banned from SRL for a duration of one year.

I have been accused of a few things:

  1. 'Hijacking' an Account
  2. Script Selling
  3. Claiming to Be SSRL
  4. Cracking Passwords
Let's explain these, shall we:

  1. Well let's take a look at it. I did not hijack it. I did not change the password either. This is what I did. I required his password to do a test of moderator permissions on ZaszMedia. I realize now, that I could have made a testing account but I was not thinking at that time. But I have just made a testing account so that I can use it for any further tests. So he gave me his password, I logged in to ZaszMedia, tested the permissions, then logged off. After that, I decided to see if the password worked on SRL. It did, so I just looked at 3 threads, then logged off. That was the only time that I was on the account (on SRL). That's all that happened really. I would also like to not put any burden on Richard as he has done nothing wrong, he just gave me his password so I can test things. It is I, that have done something wrong, for I am the one who logged on and viewed a forum I should not have access to.
  2. This accusation is pretty failcake without any proof. I have no idea where Markus is coming from. I don't auto (well, rarely), and when I do I only use one script (Home's Flax Picker <3). I have also not made a script, so I could not sell any script that I have made. I could also not sell any script that somebody else has made because that is really messed up..I could make my own to sell if I really wanted to. I would love for him to go on MSN and do some explaining.
  3. This is true, somewhat. I sometimes tell people I am SSRL when they ask me and then I say joking or jk or something along those lines. I am not SSRL as I believe I am a bit immature to be in it. Whoever believes that I am must not know me that well. My personality is just being a joker. Sorry if that offends you.
  4. This one is also untrue. I have not attempted to crack any password other than my own (unsuccessful btw, took to long). I believe Hobbit was the one who brought this up. He believed that I was trying to crack his password because I showed him an image of an MD5 of his password. I didn't do that…I simply took it because I was doing some work in phpmyadmin and just decided to screenshot it. Only thing I was trying to crack was my own password and a 3 char string that Hobbit gave me. I think I cracked it, but don't remember lol. But I was just trying to just learn how to brute force it, and it worked. But that's all I have to say about this. I didn't attempt to crack any passwords at all (besides mine).
If anybody wishes to have me explain something more in-depth, don't hesitate to PM or MSN (kylewollaston@hotmail.com) me.

Also, after thinking a lot about everything after I have been banned, I came to the conclusion that I did a bad thing by going on his account and viewing some threads that are above my access level. I know that is morally wrong. I have apologized to him and he has accepted it so we are cool now (me and Richard).

I would like to extend this post to an apology to the people it may have offended (SRL, maybe :p). I am not very good at apologizing, but I do not know how else to word this.

SRL was a part of my life. I am not saying that I have no life/am a nerd, but I loved it. It's an awesome forum, and I loved going to the 'Scripting Help' forum. When I found a new thread there, I jumped right on to it to try and find the problem and solve it. If you take a look at it I have quite a few posts there (maybe 3/4 of my posts). It's also a great place to receive help as well! I am very serious when I said all of the above. I am on SRL a lot every day. That's why I have a lot of posts per day (yes, maybe some is spam).

But I really have to get this out of my system. I am sorry. Can't find any other way to express it. I just am very, very, very, sorry.

I have just thought about it and I am going to try very hard to not spam and post only useful posts. The occasional 'Gratz!' might be posted by me though, but everybody does that :). I will also be trying to be much more mature. As I look back at my actions, I deem them very immature and I didn't know how immature I was until now. So I am going to attempt to be more mature.

I love you SRL/ZaszMedia (non-homo)!
:add_best_wishes:


From: http://zaszmedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252

boberman

2009-07-24 18:07:23

He was only accused of 1, and 3 (As far as I know) which he admits openly to.

IMO the biggest issue is that he got privileged info (Richards pass) and he abused it (tried the password in other places then he said he would). A clear violation of trust. He not only did that, but he bragged about doing it. Now we are seeing an "Oh crap, I got caught" apology.

I think a ban is in order, but I would say give him a month to think about what he's done and then let him back in.

Richard

2009-07-24 18:08:33

From: boberman
He was only accused of 1, and 3 (As far as I know) which he admits openly to.

IMO the biggest issue is that he got privileged info (Richards pass) and he abused it (tried the password in other places then he said he would). A clear violation of trust. He not only did that, but he bragged about doing it. Now we are seeing an "Oh crap, I got caught" apology.

I think a ban is in order, but I would say give him a month to think about what he's done and then let him back in.


He already has been banned, for a year. I know what you mean about trust…

Sir R. M8gic1an

2009-07-24 20:04:43

he was also accused of 4, which Hobbit has logs for.

edit:

there we go.
This picture is the one Da 0wner wanted posted, blacked out the secret parts


edit:

~RM

~RM

mixster

2009-07-24 20:22:13

I don't really see what he's getting at there. If it's a good bye statement, then it should be posted publicly. If it's a "please unban me - I'm a good person!" statement, then he can just go away and think about what he did in a quiet corner.

Sir R. M8gic1an

2009-07-24 21:25:51

From: mixster
I don't really see what he's getting at there. If it's a good bye statement, then it should be posted publicly. If it's a "please unban me - I'm a good person!" statement, then he can just go away and think about what he did in a quiet corner.



It is definitely not a good bye statement as he keeps trying to get back.

Also, it was posted publicly as well as here.

~RM

Ruroken

2009-07-24 21:29:52

The apology/defence also seemed pretty insincere and cagey…

mixster

2009-07-24 22:47:56

I didn't see the public posting until afterwards. I also wrote a post, but I was too late and it was closed, which was annoying because I thought it raised the good point of:
"He found an accounts pass. He didn't tell the person and instead went in and took pics of things he has no access to in order to prove to people he was, even though he wasn't. Great guy".

Hobbit

2009-07-24 23:00:11

They are on my home PC which is a little fubar'd right now cause of some testing that went wrong. The data is all there and fine i just need to get time to get it off.
(^MSN Logs)

And he did not show me just any MD5, he showed me the one for password. Luckly I know what that looks like because it comes up often in CAIN. Also yes he was trying to decrypt a 3 char one I sent him and when i asked why he was trying to decrypt MD5's he linked to the screenie of my MD5. So that implies the intention to crack it. Also even if he honestly wasnt attempting to crack it, you shouldnt be looking at the passwords in the user database, that is EXTREMELY unethical as an admin of any stature.

I told him logging onto other peoples accounts at Zaszmedia was a bad idea and that it would probably end badly. Cause he didnt just do it for testing… And I was right, it did.

R0b0t1

2009-07-25 01:45:41

He is probably lying about his reasons. Also, I can hardly believe a test account slipped his mind.