SRL Archive - News and General

I am writting this thread, to avoid having a bunch of them show up later.
Da 0wner has been banned for hijacking another member's account, and constantly bother the staff about ssrl. Not only this but he has also been accusing several higher ranked members of leaking, while these claims have been proven to be untrue. Finally he has decided to pretend to be ssrl and tell others about it, an attitude that clearly reveals he is not.

Also, to any who have registered at ZaszMedia i have to warn you that your passwords are not safe if you use the one that you registered with or the one you currently have at ZaszMedia as Da 0wner decided to attempt to crack them. Finally, be sure not to trust him with anything that is valuable to you, as this was how he hijacked an SRL account.

May this also be a reminder to all of you that SSRL and higher ranks are not begged for or "stolen", they are deserved and granted.

Lots o' love
The SRL Staff

This post has been Hijacked by Rasta Magician
Pictures removed by YoHoJo


there we go.
This picture is the one Da 0wner wanted posted, blacked out the secret parts


edit:


~RM

————

RM, sorry for anything I may have done :(.
I was just curious. Bye Da 0wner.. I will miss you.

I've changed my password just in case…RIP Da 0wner

Goodnight sweet prince

LOL serves him right. When will he be unbanned or is this indefinite?

im pretty sure this is going to be perm…

serves him right for what he done, also whos account did he have access to?


what else did he do? like who did he sell free scripts to?

Its 1 year ban I just heard

if i start acting weird, he hacked my account.. same pass

edit: if u have an account at zasz media, change it here: http://www.zaszmedia.com/forum/profile.php?do=editsignature

Wow, Never thought he would do such stupid stuff…

Anyways it was nice to have you here Da Owner(kyle).

Richard gave him his pass and he viewed a view threads and left.

He told me/boasted that he was SSRL.

T~M

From: D1zl3
if i start acting weird, he hacked my account.. same pass

edit: if u have an account at zasz media, change it here: http://www.zaszmedia.com/forum/profile.php?do=editsignature

It might be a better idea to change your pass at SRL, as Zaszmedia may have database backups.

Yeah me to and I asked him if he has made any scripts and he said "Yes but its in ssrl" or something along those lines

AN UPDATE TO ALL.

Da Owner remains admin on forums. But I have taken away all other privaleges from him. This includes the database and ftp. So, if you feel your password is insecure now, you can change it Here.

I hope this doesn't stop any of you from coming to ZaszMedia. Da Owner has nothing but successful trades on the forums. But you still don't have to do any business with him.

Whats "ssrl". Well good luck to him. He is probably going to proxy in to here some time.

ssrl is senior srl members

From: cycrosism
ssrl is senior srl members

A group where not much people are supposed to know about :rolleyes:

From: Hermen
A group where not much people are supposed to know about :rolleyes:

Why not? There's a sticky in the SRL Members forums stating that there is one, so i think the intention for that was to make it knowledgable. Gaining SSRL is like going from an SRL Junior Member to a SRL Member, except, just more difficult :p

Da 0wner could've also gained access to more accounts in higher positions that have registered at ZaszMedia, where he may've saved the passwords previously (*looks at RM and Hobbit*).

From: kingarabian
Whats "ssrl". Well good luck to him. He is probably going to proxy in to here some time.

I would think people would jump at a sticky titled 'Hidden Secrets of SRL' :p EDIT: @Dan's The Man - I'm guessing Hermen was referring to how its members are not revealed, nor much about the contents.

As for proxying, I'm guessing even his Dynamic IP would do the trick.

Hard to believe Kyle did some of this stuff :( He often exaggerates and tells (generally harmless) lies, but I don't see him hacking or selling other people's scripts :\


EDIT: Brain: Ninja'd.

From: kingarabian
Whats "ssrl". Well good luck to him. He is probably going to proxy in to here some time.

http://www.villavu.com/forum/showpost.php?p=195690&postcount=1

EDIT: tad beat me

and dan kinda beat me too :(

Thanks Wizzup for telling me to change my pass the other day when I posted a pic, and it had other passes in it <3

[QUOTE=Dan's The Man;606466]
Da 0wner could've also gained access to more accounts in higher positions that have registered at ZaszMedia, where he may've saved the passwords previously (*looks at RM and Hobbit*).

Neither me nor Hobbit used the same password at ZaszMedia as we use here.

~RM

All I did was give Da 0wner my password for ZaszMedia, he said he needed to test that the moderator status worked. I was dumb enough to have the same password, and he took a guess and logged onto my account. He knew he shouldn't have done it, but continued to do so.

I trusted and STILL Trust da 0wner like a brother, did you guys check ip's, did you make sure no one was on his account? He let me go on his 116 when ever i want, hes just a good person. Please make sure, 100 % that Kyle, was on "Richards SRL Account", and not just da owners account. Some one may of hacked da owner.

*Keep in mind* i just woke up, and just heard this , and no relatively nothing

RIP Da owner

I was talking to him on msn, I was like "you got banned? lol"
he said "yeah"

He didn't defend himself at all, seems like he knows he got caught and is taking it like a man.

(09:39:34 AM) Da 0wner: but everything is false
(09:39:36 AM) Da 0wner: cept
(09:39:38 AM) Da 0wner: the first thing
(09:39:53 AM) mylesmadness: what, going on richards account?
(09:40:23 AM) Da 0wner: mhm

But still that alone should be a ban

Good job staff, this went on for too long.

MylesMadness, i believe you, but to be honest, that shows me nothing at all. But he just admitted to me as well.

Serves him right, he knows that SSRL is a private and elite group and is meant to be for only those who have the rights.

Da owners post on ZaszMedia, ask him on msn this is HIS post. I will be middle manning between you guys and him. What ever you reply is going to him.

I have recently been banned from SRL for a duration of one year.

I have been accused of a few things:

1. 'Hijacking' an Account
2. Script Selling
3. Claiming to Be SSRL
4. Cracking Passwords

Let's explain these, shall we:

1. Well let's take a look at it. I did not hijack it. I did not change the password either. This is what I did. I required his password to do a test of moderator permissions on ZaszMedia. I realize now, that I could have made a testing account but I was not thinking at that time. But I have just made a testing account so that I can use it for any further tests. So he gave me his password, I logged in to ZaszMedia, tested the permissions, then logged off. After that, I decided to see if the password worked on SRL. It did, so I just looked at 3 threads, then logged off. That was the only time that I was on the account (on SRL). That's all that happened really. I would also like to not put any burden on Richard as he has done nothing wrong, he just gave me his password so I can test things. It is I, that have done something wrong, for I am the one who logged on and viewed a forum I should not have access to.
2. This accusation is pretty failcake without any proof. I have no idea where Markus is coming from. I don't auto (well, rarely), and when I do I only use one script (Home's Flax Picker <3). I have also not made a script, so I could not sell any script that I have made. I could also not sell any script that somebody else has made because that is really messed up..I could make my own to sell if I really wanted to. I would love for him to go on MSN and do some explaining.
3. This is true, somewhat. I sometimes tell people I am SSRL when they ask me and then I say joking or jk or something along those lines. I am not SSRL as I believe I am a bit immature to be in it. Whoever believes that I am must not know me that well. My personality is just being a joker. Sorry if that offends you.
4. This one is also untrue. I have not attempted to crack any password other than my own (unsuccessful btw, took to long). I believe Hobbit was the one who brought this up. He believed that I was trying to crack his password because I showed him an image of an MD5 of his password. I didn't do that…I simply took it because I was doing some work in phpmyadmin and just decided to screenshot it. Only thing I was trying to crack was my own password and a 3 char string that Hobbit gave me. I think I cracked it, but don't remember lol. But I was just trying to just learn how to brute force it, and it worked. But that's all I have to say about this. I didn't attempt to crack any passwords at all (besides mine).

If anybody wishes to have me explain something more in-depth, don't hesitate to PM or MSN (kylewollaston@hotmail.com) me.

Also, after thinking a lot about everything after I have been banned, I came to the conclusion that I did a bad thing by going on his account and viewing some threads that are above my access level. I know that is morally wrong. I have apologized to him and he has accepted it so we are cool now (me and Richard).

I would like to extend this post to an apology to the people it may have offended (SRL, maybe ). I am not very good at apologizing, but I do not know how else to word this.

SRL was a part of my life. I am not saying that I have no life/am a nerd, but I loved it. It's an awesome forum, and I loved going to the 'Scripting Help' forum. When I found a new thread there, I jumped right on to it to try and find the problem and solve it. If you take a look at it I have quite a few posts there (maybe 3/4 of my posts). It's also a great place to receive help as well! I am very serious when I said all of the above. I am on SRL a lot every day. That's why I have a lot of posts per day (yes, maybe some is spam).

But I really have to get this out of my system. I am sorry. Can't find any other way to express it. I just am very, very, very, sorry.

I have just thought about it and I am going to try very hard to not spam and post only useful posts. The occasional 'Gratz!' might be posted by me though, but everybody does that . I will also be trying to be much more mature. As I look back at my actions, I deem them very immature and I didn't know how immature I was until now. So I am going to attempt to be more mature.

I love you SRL/ZaszMedia (non-homo)!

I showed an admin (not gonna say who, in case he wants it to be private or something) some pics of chat logs/pictures he sent me of SSRL and members of SSRL. So I kinda.. finished it off.. haha

From: 99_ aka ian.
I showed an admin (not gonna say who, in case he wants it to be private or something) some pics of chat logs/pictures he sent me of SSRL and members of SSRL. So I kinda.. finished it off.. haha

Finished what off, hes banned? But how long has this been going on?

Da 0wner is a great guy, he may of done a few bad things, but still how much good has he done? WAY more then bad.

Finished him off, as in the last straw for him getting banned.

From: 99_ aka ian.
Finished him off, as in the last straw for him getting banned.

As BobboHobboBob(Sorry bob for like crappin your name =]) said, he has done TONS, TONS More good then hes done, and its not like no one lost anything, anything bad happened, he just viewed 3 threads. Cmon, a year?.. For what he has done?.. I could understand it , if the guy is a relatively new person, but seriously.

I sort of agree (kinda), did he actually do any damage?

maybe he was hacked (joking)

Ian, if you could please post those pictures, it'd be nice for the benefit of others.

No set time for the ban has been publicly announced.

~RM

MSN, pl0x. (RM) [email]panic._@live.com[/email]

You could at least, put a black sticky tape on the names..

Brain: I suggest you remove those. They seem to contain SSRL material.

EDIT: Zeph took care of it :p

Anyway, as for Da 0wner doing more bad than good, I disagree. He has been a great to help to me, and many others I'm sure, in various things (mainly dealing with scripting). Most of you don't realize how great a coder he is just because he hasn't made any RS scripts (he happened to be working on one at the time of his ban). He has been mainly a positive influence, albeit a bit stuck up, despite his curiosity that eventually got him banned (going on another's account). The other claims (Script Selling, Hacking) don't seem to have any proof…

Sorry Brain I had to delete your posts… it revealed too much.

From: Rasta Magician
Ian, if you could please post those pictures, it'd be nice for the benefit of others.

No set time for the ban has been publicly announced.

~RM

Err or not since that kind of blows the whole secret thing…

there we go.
This picture is the one Da 0wner wanted posted, blacked out the secret parts


edit:

~RM

meh, i still trust him tbh. my pass isnt the same on the two forums, and he also lets me on some of his rs accounts.

how long is teh ban?

thanks zeph and RM, :( my bad.

From: Awkwardsaw
meh, i still trust him tbh. my pass isnt the same on the two forums, and he also lets me on some of his rs accounts.

how long is teh ban?

1 year. In my opinion, it's a bit too harsh. If the claims of Hacking and Script Selling turn out to be false, I'd say a couple months would suffice, no?

From: Runescapian aka Tad
1 year. In my opinion, it's a bit too harsh. If the claims of Hacking and Script Selling turn out to be false, I'd say a couple months would suffice, no?

This is not really here for disccusion.

~RM

aw kid :(

That sucks.

Da 0wner says:
lol no
i logged on to his acct
thats all
we friends

~~JOKER~~ says:
why they ban u than
wtf
Da 0wner says:
they are fags
~~JOKER~~ says:
false accusation/
?
Da 0wner says:
they think i did shit
yes

ehhh :S lol

Pictures added to first page.

As you can see by the pictures, Da 0wner did do it and claimed to be ssrl, not followed by 'jk' or 'joking' but followed by 'dont tell anyone', unlike he said.

Enough has been said.

~RM

From: The Cnr Sport aka Camaro
I trusted and STILL Trust da 0wner like a brother, did you guys check ip's, did you make sure no one was on his account? He let me go on his 116 when ever i want, hes just a good person. Please make sure, 100 % that Kyle, was on "Richards SRL Account", and not just da owners account. Some one may of hacked da owner.

Yes I checked IPs and he admitted to it. Also if you judge someones trustworthiness and character by how they judge yours and by them letting you onto their pixel man, I'm sorry to say but you have a poor choice of character.

I warned kyle (Da 0wner) that some of the things he was doing over at Zasz were unethical and would probably become out of control and end badly. But he decided not to heed my warning and they did become out of control and did end badly.

Da 0wner did something he knew was wrong and basically committed fraud. He deserves this punishment.

I honestly can't believe any of you guys would trust Da Owner at all.
To me, he became a pain just before he was ``Auto Memberized''. He kept bragging to other people he would become a SRL Member, etc. I took me a long time to figure out who told him this.
After that, only more drama followed, including cracking Richard's account, and he doesn't stop there!
He is trying to crack a lot account on SRL, and recently started bragging he `hacked' a Moderators account. (If true at all, he must have done this the same way as he did with Richard, cracking md5's) This guy is a nutcase, and not to be trusted.
I call upon you all to just ignore this moron. His ban is 100% permanent, and will NEVER be lifted.

Fairs. Guys, does it actually matter? This is not an injustice on Kyle's part, and it is no skin off of all of your backs if he is banned. You can STILL communicate with him outside of SRL, so it doesn't really matter.

From: Torrent of Flame
Fairs. Guys, does it actually matter? This is not an injustice on Kyle's part, and it is no skin off of all of your backs if he is banned. You can STILL communicate with him outside of SRL, so it doesn't really matter.

Yes, but I call upon everyone to just ignore him. He is simply not to be trusted.
I made my post after laughing out load about his post on zaszmedia. (I can't believe he is still an admin there, too.)

I remember him threating people with a picture of the zaszmedia database, .rar'ed.

From: Wizzup?
Yes, but I call upon everyone to just ignore him. He is simply not to be trusted.
I made my post after laughing out load about his post on zaszmedia. (I can't believe he is still an admin there, too.)

I remember him threating people with a picture of the zaszmedia database, .rar'ed.

He's an idiot. I was writing a big post on ZaSz media about how the site was a poor SRL Ripoff (no offence ZaSz.) and Kyle is an idiot but my computer died and I couldnt be bothered to write it out again.

From: Wizzup?
Yes, but I call upon everyone to just ignore him. He is simply not to be trusted.
I made my post after laughing out load about his post on zaszmedia. (I can't believe he is still an admin there, too.)

I remember him threating people with a picture of the zaszmedia database, .rar'ed.

He also did/does a lot of things behind zasz's back. Richard's supposedly a mod on zaszmedia, but he has admin privileges. And I'm supposedly an admin, but I have no privileges. He did that because I deleted some of his posts that were completely spam (saying things like "ohailololol eye am sooooo kewl and you are all jealous bcuz im admin. sadjfbsla hahah lulz win."). :/ I can't even ban myself. Oh well, I'm not going to go on anymore.

Thank you, staff. You made the right choice.

From: ian.
He also did/does a lot of things behind zasz's back. Richard's supposedly a mod on zaszmedia, but he has admin privileges. And I'm supposedly an admin, but I have no privileges. He did that because I deleted some of his posts that were completely spam (saying things like "ohailololol eye am sooooo kewl and you are all jealous bcuz im admin. sadjfbsla hahah lulz win."). :/ I can't even ban myself. Oh well, I'm not going to go on anymore.

Thank you, staff. You made the right choice.

I had FtP information for a while on Kyle's account. He changed his password so the site couldn't undergo a little 'downtime' accident..

Post the fucking compassion in BBQ. He went wrong since logging onto Richard's account here, solid proof for that was posted in this thread, end of the line.

He will not be unbanned due to friends' opinions on his trustability, kindness or whether he deserves it or not.

Zaszmedia post - Cool Story.

He logged onto another's account, but did not alert the person to this and instead take pictures to try and persuade other people he was of a higher rank than he was.

Forget emotions when reading the above statement - it is not a good person to have at SRL. I can fully understand curiosity to test the password, but it should go no further and they should inform the person of it.

For me, just that point is enough to validate a perm ban.

I feel no sympathy on his part. He got what he deserved, nothing will change about it. This is worse than stealing runescape accounts, which people get permanent bans for anyway. He is also continuing to come to the forums, so sooner or later he may get an IP ban.

Enough of this now?

I honestly can't believe any of you guys would trust Da Owner at all.
To me, he became a pain just before he was ``Auto Memberized''. He kept bragging to other people he would become a SRL Member, etc. I took me a long time to figure out who told him this.
After that, only more drama followed, including cracking Richard's account, and he doesn't stop there!
He is trying to crack a lot account on SRL, and recently started bragging he `hacked' a Moderators account. (If true at all, he must have done this the same way as he did with Richard, cracking md5's) This guy is a nutcase, and not to be trusted.
I call upon you all to just ignore this moron. His ban is 100% permanent, and will NEVER be lifted.

Yes, but I call upon everyone to just ignore him. He is simply not to be trusted.
I made my post after laughing out load about his post on zaszmedia. (I can't believe he is still an admin there, too.)

I remember him threating people with a picture of the zaszmedia database, .rar'ed.

Wizzup , why cant you beileve that i still trust him( i trust him a bit less now) but that should be no reason to ignore him? I understand you dont want him at srl , but you should not be saying how he shouldnt be admin on another forums, or how other people shouldnt talk to him at all, he is NOT a nutcase he is just alittle immature, and could get annoying but thats no reason for me to stop talking with him :o

From: The Cnr Sport aka Camaro
Wizzup , why cant you beileve that i still trust him( i trust him a bit less now) but that should be no reason to ignore him? I understand you dont want him at srl , but you should not be saying how he shouldnt be admin on another forums, or how other people shouldnt talk to him at all, he is NOT a nutcase he is just alittle immature, and could get annoying but thats no reason for me to stop talking with him :o

You just gave him reasons why he shouldn't be an admin. And in my post I have more reasons.

From: ian.
You just gave him reasons why he shouldn't be an admin. And in my post I have more reasons.

For being annoying and immature he shouldnt be admin? >.>

From: The Cnr Sport aka Camaro
Wizzup , why cant you beileve that i still trust him( i trust him a bit less now) but that should be no reason to ignore him? I understand you dont want him at srl , but you should not be saying how he shouldnt be admin on another forums, or how other people shouldnt talk to him at all, he is NOT a nutcase he is just alittle immature, and could get annoying but thats no reason for me to stop talking with him :o

An immature admin is a contradiction and impossibility in itself.

~RM

From: Rasta Magician
An immature admin is a contradiction and impossibility in itself.

~RM

Paradoxical!? RUN! Run to the hills!

From: The Cnr Sport aka Camaro
For being annoying and immature he shouldnt be admin? >.>

"And in my post I have more reasons." >_>

Complaining about this won't do anything, he is the root admin at ZaszMedia, so won't be de-admined, and he'll stay banned here permanently.

From: The Cnr Sport aka Camaro
Wizzup , why cant you beileve that i still trust him( i trust him a bit less now) but that should be no reason to ignore him? I understand you dont want him at srl , but you should not be saying how he shouldnt be admin on another forums, or how other people shouldnt talk to him at all, he is NOT a nutcase he is just alittle immature, and could get annoying but thats no reason for me to stop talking with him :o

The reason you *should* ignore him, is that only then he is truly banned from the SRL Community.

From: The Cnr Sport aka Camaro
Wizzup , why cant you beileve that i still trust him( i trust him a bit less now) but that should be no reason to ignore him? I understand you dont want him at srl , but you should not be saying how he shouldnt be admin on another forums, or how other people shouldnt talk to him at all, he is NOT a nutcase he is just alittle immature, and could get annoying but thats no reason for me to stop talking with him :o

This is sort of like this neonknight77 thing =\
except, no where near as dangerous.

From: Wizzup?
The reason you *should* ignore him, is that only then he is truly banned from the SRL Community.

Now you are freaking me out, you are saying that if my best irl friend on this site gets banned, I shouldn't meet him anymore?

Anyways not that he has an account here, and the only thing he might possible crack is his own password… :p

From: Wizzup?
The reason you *should* ignore him, is that only then he is truly banned from the SRL Community.

I don't want to argue with you, but there are people that have made friends with him, and talking to him outside SRL doesn't mean he's still part of the community. That's like saying my brother is part of the community if I talk to him.

From: Coh3n
I don't want to argue with you, but there are people that have made friends with him, and talking to him outside SRL doesn't mean he's still part of the community. That's like saying my brother is part of the community if I talk to him.

Well, not bringing whatever he says in here would be an excellent start. Thank you for providing the example yourself.
I've edited it out of your post again.

I'm not saying you are not allowed to talk to him, but you shouldn't involve him in SRL the way your are currently doing. Posting for him, sending posts people made to him, etc. He is not welcome at SRL anymore, and neither is his opinion. Please not to post it again.

I don't need a ``KThxBai'' from DaOwner.

From: Hermen
Now you are freaking me out, you are saying that if my best irl friend on this site gets banned, I shouldn't meet him anymore?

No, I don't think that is what he means. At least, that's not how I am taking it. If you have a friend IRL that was banned, chances are, you don't think of him, and he doesn't think of you, as a member of the SRL community; just as a friend. Therefore, talking to him doesn't make him feel anymore welcome to this community than if you didn't. However, if someone from this community who he is not friends with IRL, or very good e-friends with, talked to him (especially about SRL), he will probably recognize that person as part of this community, and might make him feel (at least a little bit) welcome.

Again, I'm not sure if that is exactly what Wizzup means..

http://zaszmedia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1468

Yeah, hella shit is happening and everybody hates me now.

Just for a few little things.

If ZaszMedia was not around, then I would have not been in this mess. Better yet, if Richard had not had the same password, even then I would not have been banned. No fault on his part however, it was still mine.

Anyways, I am going to tell you that I am retiring as administrator of ZM…bye.

Btw, your passwords are same. I fail at cryptography and I also do not have access to the MySQL database or cPanel.

There you go, hope you are all happy. Taking away a part of my life. I have matured a bit and am continuing to mature. I don't know why you guys are making such a big deal of it. It's a section for Christ's sakes. If I had logged onto another SRL Member (non-SSRL) then I bet I would not even be banned as I would have had the same forum permissions.

I need to apologize to everybdoy for being the biggest dick ever.

Zasz
Wizzy
ToF
ian.
etc.

From: ZaSz
http://zaszmedia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1468

He still doesn't gets it, right?

From: Hermen
He still doesn't gets it, right?

''Ban will NEVER be lifted''

:P

I was pointing out he stepped down as administrator.

if Richard had not had the same password

Fuck off, I wouldn't have expected an SRL Member to try and log onto my SRL account, even less likely expected an admin on another forum. I'm sorry that my password was the same, but that doesn't justify his actions whatsoever.

From: ZaSz
http://zaszmedia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1468

Yeah, hella shit is happening and everybody hates me now.

Just for a few little things.

If ZaszMedia was not around, then I would have not been in this mess. Better yet, if Richard had not had the same password, even then I would not have been banned. No fault on his part however, it was still mine.

Anyways, I am going to tell you that I am retiring as administrator of ZM…bye.

Btw, your passwords are same. I fail at cryptography and I also do not have access to the MySQL database or cPanel.

There you go, hope you are all happy. Taking away a part of my life. I have matured a bit and am continuing to mature. I don't know why you guys are making such a big deal of it. It's a section for Christ's sakes. If I had logged onto another SRL Member (non-SSRL) then I bet I would not even be banned as I would have had the same forum permissions.

I need to apologize to everybdoy for being the biggest dick ever.

Zasz
Wizzy
ToF
ian.
etc.

I'd say he took it away from himself. Or rather, he was the cause of it being taken away from him.

I don't know why you guys are making such a big deal of it. It's a section for Christ's sakes. If I had logged onto another SRL Member (non-SSRL) then I bet I would not even be banned as I would have had the same forum permissions.

Cracking is serious business. It wouldn't have mattered who he had hacked, it is still a bad thing.

but maybe remembering should be enought?? I know what means to spend big part of live on SRL and got banned.

From: Iroki
but maybe remembering should be enought?? I know what means to spend big part of live on SRL and got banned.

I know you hate having this brought up, but you got what you deserved. Account stealing is a serious offence, and this is no different. You are lucky to be unbanned, as the staff sympathised.

From: Richard
I know you hate having this brought up, but you got what you deserved. Account stealing is a serious offence, and this is no different. You are lucky to be unbanned, as the staff sympathised.

The cases can't be compared, though. Anyway, this is not about Iroki. :) (On Topic now)

Richard, your taking it to seriously
he didnt do anything bad to your account
and he didint do half of the offences he was charged with
ive been on his comp through t.v.

From: Neehosoft
Richard, your taking it to seriously
he didnt do anything bad to your account

He is not taking it too seriously, Da 0wner breached Richards trust aswell the trust of ZaSz and the whole of the SRL Community. No to mention he may have broken the vB privacy policy and maybe even their end-user agreement for him trying to figure out the salt they used on the password hashes!

From: Neehosoft
and he didint do half of the offences he was charged with

He is guilty of every single one of the charges if not more

From: Neehosoft
ive been on his comp through t.v.

Explain and if he is so innocent because you "were on his computer through tv" then give us some evidence to back it up? Cause we sure got evidence to prove his guilt.

From: Neehosoft
Richard, your taking it to seriously
he didnt do anything bad to your account
and he didint do half of the offences he was charged with
ive been on his comp through t.v.

But it is quite serious… he claimed to be SSRL through my account. I honestly felt quite privileged silently knowing I was SSRL, but now everyone knows. You make not think its seriously, but I take it to be. He was one of the closest friends I had on SRL, then he does this. It doesn't just make you lose trust in him, it makes you lose trust in people in general. "Trust no-one" may be something I say myself now.

Sorry Iroki for bringing that up, was just saying that you can't just think about how it feels being banned, but how it feels having your account taken over.

From: Neehosoft
Richard, your taking it to seriously
he didnt do anything bad to your account
and he didint do half of the offences he was charged with
ive been on his comp through t.v.

He's taking it too seriously? So someone breaching your trust and holding a reputation you've worked for months- if not years- to build in their hand without your consent isn't something to take seriously?

He could have done plenty of bad things to Richard's account. It's just like hacking someone's computer; regardless of what you do, you're charged as a hacker (unless it is your own computer, ofc. :rolleyes: )

There's plenty of evidence he did all of the offenses he was charged with; if you would like to offer substantial proof otherwise, please feel free to do so.

So what if you were monitoring him? I'm sorry, but I honestly don't trust you on your monitoring job. If it were a forum Admin, SRL Dev, Global Mod, or well-respected SRL member, it would be a different issue, but friends vouching for a person are bound to be bias towards their friend.

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On another note, I would like to thank the SRL Staff for making an excellent chain of decisions on this matter. I hope people like this are never allowed back in to the community and trust that they never will be. :)

~Macro_FTW

90% of you have no opinions of your own, you guys are mind controlled by all admins and mods here at SRL. Gratz!

From: The Cnr Sport aka Camaro
90% of you have no opinions of your own, you guys are mind controlled by all admins and mods here at SRL. Gratz!

Or, 90% of us know the difference between right and wrong.

From: The Cnr Sport aka Camaro
90% of you have no opinions of your own, you guys are mind controlled by all admins and mods here at SRL. Gratz!

90% of us are more mature than to make a decision such as Da 0wner's and also more mature than to put a post such as yours.

From: The Cnr Sport aka Camaro
90% of you have no opinions of your own, you guys are mind controlled by all admins and mods here at SRL. Gratz!

i got my own oppinion

From: Hobbit
Cause we sure got evidence to prove his guilt.

I'm sure a lot of us, including me, don't believe some of the things he was accused of because we don't see that evidence. Such as

From: Rasta Magician
and constantly bother the staff about ssrl.

Not only this but he has also been accusing several higher ranked members of leaking, while these claims have been proven to be untrue.

if you use the one that you registered with or the one you currently have at ZaszMedia as Da 0wner decided to attempt to crack them.

(First two don't mean much I guess, third one is a big one though)

Script Selling was brought up earlier, but I guess that's gone now.

All I see he did was come across a member's password, and used it to make people think he was SSRL. Sure, that deserves a ban in its own right, but from what I see he is not a hacker/cracker, which seems to be the base of the reason he was banned/should not be trusted.

From: Runescapian aka Tad

Script Selling was brought up earlier, but I guess that's gone now.

nice post, and yeah, it should be gone, becuase he had no scripts to sell, the flaxor was his first script

From: Neehosoft
nice post, and yeah, it should be gone, becuase he had no scripts to sell, the flaxor was his first script

Selling your own scripts is allowed, but I think he was suspected of selling other people's scripts. Anyway this is irrelevent :p

Cnr Sport, what you're trying to do is actually tell people to follow what you think, to unban him. There is hard evidence that he did what he was accused of, nothing is going to change. Its like with that F4 hacker guy, no-one is going to trust someone like that, Da 0wner now is looked on as someone like that. What he did was against the rules, breaking rules = ban, and most rule followers don't like rule breakers. Its just the way it is.

And FYI, I can think for myself. I was the victim of this, so please shut up.

I am not surprised Da 0wner were banned, actually I expected it, he is just "like the type"… Da 0wner is a great guy though, but when he tried to log into Richards account then he went waaay to far.

From: n3ss3s
Post the fucking compassion in BBQ. He went wrong since logging onto Richard's account here, solid proof for that was posted in this thread, end of the line.

He will not be unbanned due to friends' opinions on his trustability, kindness or whether he deserves it or not.

Zaszmedia post - Cool Story.

Please stop wasting time on trying to convince people about his 'innocence' or anything, he will remain banned.

From: [JS]
90% of us are more mature than to make a decision such as Da 0wner's and also more mature than to put a post such as yours.

Im just trying to explain to people. no one is listening to anything anyone defending da owner is saying. There just agreeing to the staff no matter what they say. If they said, he deserves de srl members status, or a 1 month ban. Everyone would of said, "perfect choice staff"

From: Zyt3x
I am not surprised Da 0wner were banned, actually I expected it, he is just "like the type"… Da 0wner is a great guy though, but when he tried to log into Richards account then he went waaay to far.

How do you know, "The type"

From: Richard
Cnr Sport, what you're trying to do is actually tell people to follow what you think, to unban him. There is hard evidence that he did what he was accused of, nothing is going to change. Its like with that F4 hacker guy, no-one is going to trust someone like that, Da 0wner now is looked on as someone like that. What he did was against the rules, breaking rules = ban, and most rule followers don't like rule breakers. Its just the way it is.

And FYI, I can think for myself. I was the victim of this, so please shut up.

Thats not true…..

and FYI , last i checked . if someone gave me a password, and i tryed it on ONE other forum, i wouldnt consider that hacking.

- Tad

All I see he did was come across a member's password, and used it to make people think he was SSRL. Sure, that deserves a ban in its own right, but from what I see he is not a hacker/cracker, which seems to be the base of the reason he was banned/should not be trusted.

100% right, he deserves a ban, not the one he received, its like going to jail for life , for doing something different, that deserves a year or two of time.

What ever, R.I.P Da owner

(I was just stating my 2-bit, not trying to start arguments)

Cnr, just leave this thread. Everyone here is thinking on their own anyways. Just because they have the same opinion as the staff and not you doesn't mean they are sheeping. You are trying to convince people to listen to you and get Da 0wner unbanned, and yes, people have said they WOULD try the account, but then continuing to pretend to be SSRL on someone elses account and taking pictures for christ sake, that is just plain stupid and proves that he cannot be trusted.

And hacking is gaining illegal access to something you shouldnt have. Logging into someone elses account without their consent IS hacking.

From: The Cnr Sport aka Camaro
Im just trying to explain to people. no one is listening to anything anyone defending da owner is saying. There just agreeing to the staff no matter what they say. If they said, he deserves de srl members status, or a 1 month ban. Everyone would of said, "perfect choice staff"

How would you know? :/ That's a "What if?" question, so don't use that in an argument like this, please.

From: Runescapian aka Tad
I'm sure a lot of us, including me, don't believe some of the things he was accused of because we don't see that evidence.

All I see he did was come across a member's password, and used it to make people think he was SSRL. Sure, that deserves a ban in its own right, but from what I see he is not a hacker/cracker, which seems to be the base of the reason he was banned/should not be trusted.

I can dig up some logs, if you want to. I never posted them because most of them are over MSN. (DaOwner speaking to an other person, and that persons sends it to me.)

He was constantly bothering the Staff directly, as well as indirectly.
His SRL Membership was a perfect example of direct annoyance.
However, very often I got someone (I think about 10 people total) to consult me (on IRC) about all the crap Da Owner has been telling them on MSN. I don't have all the IRC logs, but I may have some. I'm not posting them (yet) because I fully understand that those people don't want those conversations published.
It also includes one with Da Owner bragging with a .rar file of the zaszmedia database.

From: The Cnr Sport aka Camaro
How do you know, "The type"

From: Wizzup?
I can dig up some logs, if you want to. I never posted them because most of them are over MSN. (DaOwner speaking to an other person, and that persons sends it to me.)

He was constantly bothering the Staff directly, as well as indirectly.
His SRL Membership was a perfect example of direct annoyance.
However, very often I got someone (I think about 10 people total) to consult me (on IRC) about all the crap Da Owner has been telling them on MSN. I don't have all the IRC logs, but I may have some. I'm not posting them (yet) because I fully understand that those people don't want those conversations published.
It also includes one with Da Owner bragging with a .rar file of the zaszmedia database.

I don't think I have to say anything more…

From: Wizzup?
I can dig up some logs, if you want to. I never posted them because most of them are over MSN

I believe you, Wizzup, that you have logs, just post them. Its similar to macroing bans on RS, no evidence and ban :)

Why is this debate even still happening? He's banned, good choice, can't agree with every single point for banning him, but yes, ban away, you're the admins for a reason. You don't need the guidance of the members. Just ban him, make a thread, close it. Done deal. Anyone talking about it, trying to get him unbanned gets infracted.

I agree with cnr sport on one point though. At most times, 90% of the srl population simply sucks up to the admins/mods/devs and it makes no sense. I see it all the time in the application section. Someone with a bad script is getting 'no' a alot, then Wizzup? will come in and say 'Might as well vote yes for fun' and then, by some miracle, the guy gets one more no, and 10 more yes votes, making him an srl member. Nothing against the admins who are just trying to vote for what they want, but the people who follow them just to suck up just piss me off.

Just one example, trying to prove the point.

And by the way. Anyone who doesn't agree with this, most likely falls into the 90% that does it. There is a rare case of coincidence, I know, but most often, it is someone following the admin or mod or dev's opinion to the word, just to be like them.

E: Just so you know, not ripping up the admins or mods or whoever thinks they got ripped up. Except the people that flock to you like they are in heat, and you have 12 inch penises.

From: 3Garrett3
I see it all the time in the application section. Someone with a bad script is getting 'no' a alot, then Wizzup? will come in and say 'Might as well vote yes for fun' and then, by some miracle, the guy gets one more no, and 10 more yes votes, making him an srl member. Nothing against the admins who are just trying to vote for what they want, but the people who follow them just to suck up just piss me off.

I have noticed that too, ALOT of times.

OK well we've all had our chance to have our say and it's starting to go off topic, nothing else to discuss here. If you want to make yet another topic on SRL Member voting then do so, but please, dont…we've had so many of them already.