SRL Archive - Discussions & Debates

Hello all! :)

First of all, this thread isn't meant to start a "Which is better" debate… or is it?

Anyway, I've grown tired of my laptop not being able to handle half of what I want to do on it. There is so much crap on it, that I don't think it's worth trying to uninstall it all.

I have a live CD of both XP and Ubuntu, and I'm asking you which I should install. Keep in mind that I have used Windows my whole life, with a little bit of Ubuntu, but not much.

My laptop specs:

Ram: 1 GB
Hard Drive: 80 GB
Processor: 2.00 GHZ

I'm not 100% positive on those specs, but it's around there. I'll be able to get the exact specs when I get back to my cottage (Where my laptop is :p).

So cast your vote!

I would like to know which you think would run better on my computer, and also if it can run SCAR/SMART well. Also, I would like to know why you chose XP/Ubu.

Thanks! :D

EDIT: I should say that I don't plan on duel booting, it's going to be all XP or all Ubu.

Ubuntu, I will help you get everything working when you get home.

Well of course Ubu would run better on your computer. Wine can be used to run SCAR. I am not sure how stable that is though. And I voted Windows XP (but are you experienced with Ubuntu?).

From: Da 0wner
Well of course Ubu would run better on your computer. Wine can be used to run SCAR. I am not sure how stable that is though. And I voted Windows XP (but are you experienced with Ubuntu?).

Scar 3.20 gets access violations out the ass, but 3.15 works like a charm. All you need is to copy over the font files from windows.

Lmao, it also give access violations on Windows :D.

From: Nava2
Ubuntu, I will help you get everything working when you get home.

I wanted to get this done asap so I could use it all on my comp at the cottage. :p

From: Da 0wner
And I voted Windows XP (but are you experienced with Ubuntu?).

No, not at all. :(

From: Da 0wner
Lmao, it also give access violations on Windows :D.

It does? Not for me. :confused:

Ubuntu can be quite the learning curve. There is less support of Ubuntu than Windows, (although XP support is discontinued) but the Ubuntu community is also very experienced and helpful.

I guess it depends on what you use your computer for. Windows is good for almost everything. Even though Ubuntu has wine, many softwares will not work perfectly on Ubuntu.

From: Grunt
Ubuntu can be quite the learning curve. There is less support of Ubuntu than Windows, (although XP support is discontinued) but the Ubuntu community is also very experienced and helpful.

I guess it depends on what you use your computer for. Windows is good for almost everything. Even though Ubuntu has wine, many softwares will not work perfectly on Ubuntu.

That's why I'm skeptical to install Ubu, because pretty much all the programs I use require Windows, and I doubt Wine can support them all. Although, I'm sure Ubu has a program equivalent or better.

The main thing I'm looking for is speed. I want my computer to be fast, but also have a good Word Processor with a good PowerPoint program. I know Ubu comes with OO, but I don't know exactly how good it is. Currently I use MO 2007.

Ubuntu
i will help you if you need any help
i have used ubuntu for a while and the only reason i use windows for is for pub files which i could probably use microsoft office under wine

~shut

From: Shuttleu
Ubuntu
i will help you if you need any help
i have used ubuntu for a while and the only reason i use windows for is for pub files which i could probably use microsoft office under wine

~shut

You have MSN? I'll add you, because chances are I'll install Ubu and I'm guessing I'll need a lot of help. :p

[email]thomasaugood@hotmail.com[/email]

~shut

Go with Ubuntu and if 9.04 is slow on there, go with a older version lol.

From: Shuttleu
the only reason i use windows for is for pub files which i could probably use microsoft office under wine

Just use open office or something…. makes much easy… Ubuntu is great if you are willing to take time and learn new things… xp virtually fails unless it is xp pro…

From: Coh3n
That's why I'm skeptical to install Ubu, because pretty much all the programs I use require Windows, and I doubt Wine can support them all. Although, I'm sure Ubu has a program equivalent or better.

The main thing I'm looking for is speed. I want my computer to be fast, but also have a good Word Processor with a good PowerPoint program. I know Ubu comes with OO, but I don't know exactly how good it is. Currently I use MO 2007.

He said he's using OO already.

I say XP for three reasons:
1. Since you're using a laptop, you probably use wireless internet. In general, wireless support on Ubuntu absolutely sucks. I have never gotten nearly as good a signal on Ubuntu as I have on XP, and I have tried it with multiple computers. I can't even get my wireless adapter that I have now to work on Ubuntu from about 30 ft. away from the router. It connects for about 10 seconds max, and then disconnects for however long it feels like.
2. SCAR/SMART will run slower. Wine's a great program, but it's not as fast as native Windows. If you want to run the max amount of SCARs/SMARTs, use Windows.
3. If you plan on gaming at all (which I doubt, since you're on a laptop, but I'm still throwing this out there), use XP.

From: Shuttleu
[email]thomasaugood@hotmail.com[/email]

~shut

Added. :)

From: bullzeye95
I say XP for three reasons:
1. Since you're using a laptop, you probably use wireless internet. In general, wireless support on Ubuntu absolutely sucks. I have never gotten nearly as good a signal on Ubuntu as I have on XP, and I have tried it with multiple computers. I can't even get my wireless adapter that I have now to work on Ubuntu from about 30 ft. away from the router. It connects for about 10 seconds max, and then disconnects for however long it feels like.
2. SCAR/SMART will run slower. Wine's a great program, but it's not as fast as native Windows. If you want to run the max amount of SCARs/SMARTs, use Windows.
3. If you plan on gaming at all (which I doubt, since you're on a laptop, but I'm still throwing this out there), use XP.

You pretty much just made my decision for me, although I'd like to hear what other people think of your points.

There's also another question I have. I'm pretty sure I'm screwed, but you never know. I bought MO 2007 and it came with 3 licenses, and I've used all three. If I uninstalled MO on my laptop, would I be able to reinstall after I installed XP?

EDIT: Also the Live CD of XP I have is for SP1, can any confirm that I'll be able to update to the latest one without issues?

Ubuntu. If it runs sluggish, download the Ubuntu-Alt-Server CD. It will start up and install without a GUI. Now, if you want a GUI [which I am sure you would want], once it is loaded up with the terminal,

`sudo apt-get install xfce4'

Now, once that is done,

`startx'

Now you will have the lightest GUI for Ubuntu, and your PC should go quite teh quick. Personally, I prefer GNOME with the ClearLooks theme, but it is a lot fatter than XFCE.

Add me on MSN (msg me your username so I do not accidentally deny you …) and I can help you with any small bugs you happen to get.


[or if you are lazy and non-daring, you can download the xubuntu LiveCD, but I liek my way better]

From: Harry
Now you will have the lightest GUI for Ubuntu

Noway, IceWM and Fluxbox are way lighter.

Wine = faster than Windows bullzeye on most applications.
And about the 3 licenses: unactivate one or just get OO.o (it's decent :p)

From: anonymity
Just use open office or something…. makes much easy… Ubuntu is great if you are willing to take time and learn new things… xp virtually fails unless it is xp pro…

open office wont open pub files
only microsoft publisher open office files

~shut

From: Harry
Now you will have the lightest GUI for Ubuntu

What's GUI? :confused:

From: Markus
Wine = faster than Windows bullzeye on most applications.
And about the 3 licenses: unactivate one or just get OO.o (it's decent :p)

Well I was leaning toward XP from what Bullzeye said, but now I don't know. And I was planning on using OO if I couldn't get MO back, I'll try unactivating it, thanks. :)

The poll is pretty even right now, I want to wait for more votes before I make a decision. Also, does anyone have anything against what bullzeye said about the wireless internet? Because I'm rarely not using wireless, so that would be a huge factor in my decision.

GUI = Graphic User Interface

From: NCDS
GUI = Graphic User Interface

Ah, I see. Makes sense that I would want one of those. :p

Get get Ubuntu, a lot of people here are Winblows users, so of course they are going to chose their dominate OS instead of one they have never used, yet is a lot easier in my opinion.

Who would you trust?
Me, IceFire908, mixster, Nava2, Nazgand, Rubix, Shuttleu, Widget, Yakman
or:
bullzeye95, Da 0wner, Pure1993, Quickmarch, sapetto, Torrent of Flame?

;)


Oh, and bullzeye, Wireless works fine for me on Ubuntu. It is a lot more stable than how it was on my Windows box; Windows box would always die out every 5 minutes, a lot of GET requests would not work after using torrents, etc. It is very fail, and Ubuntu has worked a lot better for it. Of course, eth0 > wlan.

From: Coh3n
Also, does anyone have anything against what bullzeye said about the wireless internet?

I do. He exaggerated a bit. Most of the time, wireless cards do work, but he was still right about the signal usually being noticeably weaker in Ubuntu. Wireless still does completely suck in Ubuntu though.. depending on how lucky you are, it could take quite a while to get it connected the first time. After that, it's reasonably good at auto-connecting (though not nearly as good/easy as Windows IMO).

Also, Markus liezz. Try running a script or two on Windows (not more, because then it might not be a fair test), and then pop in the live CD and try the same scripts under wine. If you can't tell a difference, then maybe wine is good enough. It's not a very good test though, as when you're running a live CD, you're pretty limited on RAM, so the CPU might not be bottlenecking anywhere with only a couple scripts running.
In my experiences, SCAR runs quite a bit smoother under XP.

EDIT: Harry, I'd use Ubuntu most of the time if I could get my damn wireless adapter to work. It likes to drop over 9000 packets, and then just die for a while…

wireless took me 2 days to get working even with wizzup and #ubuntu

From: Harry
Get get Ubuntu, a lot of people here are Winblows users, so of course they are going to chose their dominate OS instead of one they have never used, yet is a lot easier in my opinion.

Who would you trust?
Me, IceFire908, mixster, Nava2, Nazgand, Rubix, Shuttleu, Widget, Yakman
or:
bullzeye95, Da 0wner, Pure1993, Quickmarch, sapetto, Torrent of Flame?

;)

Lol well I don't know… :rolleyes:

My main issue now is the wireless as I'm always using it. Is there anyone else that has had the same trouble as bullzeye?

From: bullzeye95
Wireless still does completely suck in Ubuntu though.. depending on how lucky you are, it could take quite a while to get it connected the first time. After that, it's reasonably good at auto-connecting (though not nearly as good/easy as Windows IMO).

See, now, that's the only reason I don't want to get Ubuntu now. :(

If your computer can handle GNOME pretty well (my 2GHz with 1GB RAM computer runs it fine) you can make it look really nice.

http://www.dividebyzerochan.org/images/Screenshot.png
http://www.dividebyzerochan.org/images/Screenshot-1.png

You just have to remember to install compizconfig-settings-manager. Also, Add/Remove Programs is much better than the windows "look for the website then download the installer then virus scan it then install it" method

http://www.dividebyzerochan.org/images/screenshot4.png

Ubuntu is also the midway point between Vista's paranoia and XP's "I'll let you do everything regardless of who you are."

Also, the only time you need to restart Ubuntu is when you install graphics card drivers or update your kernel (and even then, you don't really need to reboot if you know how, but that's complicated :p)


Edit: I use a 50ft ethernet cable and I use my second ethernet port to bridge the connection to my server, so I can't really say anything for wireless.

From: MylesMadness
wireless took me 2 days to get working even with wizzup and #ubuntu

That's what I don't want. Lol.

From: Widget
Also, Add/Remove Programs is much better than the windows "look for the website then download the installer then virus scan it then install it" method

Yeah for the short time I used it, that was the big thing I noticed, everything that I would need is really simple to install.

EDIT: After a long conversation with Shut about Ubu, it seems to be the better choice. If you think otherwise, speak now, or forever hold your peace. :p

if you think differently then, HOLD YOUR PEACE!!!

~shut

I have Ubuntu on my desktop as well as XP and I like it. I don't use it enough really to be able to switch to it permanently.I find it to be a hard choice though as they both have advantages over each other.

From: Coh3n


The main thing I'm looking for is speed. I want my computer to be fast, but also have a good Word Processor with a good PowerPoint program. I know Ubu comes with OO, but I don't know exactly how good it is. Currently I use MO 2007.

If you are looking for speed, then go with MO 2007. (OO is quite the memory eater, your laptop will be a little slow running multiple OO documents.) In addition, it takes forever to get it started, especially open office draw.

In addition to just MSWord, you also have Onenote 2007 with MO.

But as someone already pointed out, using wine will likely slow down applications than in native windows. So Windows for speed. I still think you should consider Dual-boot, at least for a little while…to see which one you prefer. "Especially since Ubuntu is free."

Well…. Yeah…. Ubuntu.
If you want to use SCAR in a native windows environment, install Virtualbox. (www.virtualbox.org, and is the package manager.)

If you need help, you can make a thread on SRL, or contact me on IRC… ;)

From: bullzeye95
I do. He exaggerated a bit. Most of the time, wireless cards do work, but he was still right about the signal usually being noticeably weaker in Ubuntu. Wireless still does completely suck in Ubuntu though.. depending on how lucky you are, it could take quite a while to get it connected the first time. After that, it's reasonably good at auto-connecting (though not nearly as good/easy as Windows IMO).

Also, Markus liezz. Try running a script or two on Windows (not more, because then it might not be a fair test), and then pop in the live CD and try the same scripts under wine. If you can't tell a difference, then maybe wine is good enough. It's not a very good test though, as when you're running a live CD, you're pretty limited on RAM, so the CPU might not be bottlenecking anywhere with only a couple scripts running.
In my experiences, SCAR runs quite a bit smoother under XP.

EDIT: Harry, I'd use Ubuntu most of the time if I could get my damn wireless adapter to work. It likes to drop over 9000 packets, and then just die for a while…

OVER 9000?! You need a better Wireless card =3


And Coh3n, Wireless in GNOME is so simple. Just boot up, click the wireless icon at the top, click on your wireless SSID (network name), wait a few seconds, PROFIT!… works perfectly for me.

From: NCDS
I have Ubuntu on my desktop as well as XP and I like it. I don't use it enough really to be able to switch to it permanently.I find it to be a hard choice though as they both have advantages over each other.

Exactly! :(

From: Grunt
If you are looking for speed, then go with MO 2007. (OO is quite the memory eater, your laptop will be a little slow running multiple OO documents.) In addition, it takes forever to get it started, especially open office draw.

In addition to just MSWord, you also have Onenote 2007 with MO.

But as someone already pointed out, using wine will likely slow down applications than in native windows. So Windows for speed. I still think you should consider Dual-boot, at least for a little while…to see which one you prefer. "Especially since Ubuntu is free."

It also comes with PowerPoint and Excel. I already know kind of what Ubu is about (I duel boot on my desktop), and put I don't think I should duel boot on my laptop for fear of making it even slower.

It's interesting you say Windows for speed, pretty much everyone else has said Ubuntu.

From: Wizzup?
Well…. Yeah…. Ubuntu.
If you want to use SCAR in a native windows environment, install Virtualbox. (www.virtualbox.org, and is the package manager.)

If you need help, you can make a thread on SRL, or contact me on IRC… ;)

Thanks Wiz. :D

From: Harry
And Coh3n, Wireless in GNOME is so simple. Just boot up, click the wireless icon at the top, click on your wireless SSID (network name), wait a few seconds, PROFIT!… works perfectly for me.

Yeah, well when I was talking to Shut, he suggested booting from the live CD just to see if it works, which I think is a good idea, so I might try that.

So throughout this discussion I'm come up with these questions/conclusions.

1: Wireless internet shouldn't be a problem.
2: Is running a Windows app slower through Wine, than in regular Windows?
3: For overall speed, Windows or Ubuntu?

Comments?

Vista. But ubuntu is > XP because XP has more bugs and loopholes - easier for a hacker to get into your system. So i voted Ubuntu in this case

From: cycrosism
Vista. But ubuntu is > XP because XP has more bugs and loopholes - easier for a hacker to get into your system

I have Vista now, and my computer can't handle it. It always freezes, I get tons of errors, and I can't barely run SMART without massive lag.

EDIT: I'm running off the Live CD now, and obviously I had no trouble connecting to Wireless so that's good. :D

And TBH, even on the Live CD, it runs faster than my Vista (or seems to be at least. :p).

From: cycrosism
Vista. But ubuntu is > XP because XP has more bugs and loopholes - easier for a hacker to get into your system. So i voted Ubuntu in this case

You have got to be trolling. Honestly, if you think that XP (with the latest security updates, of course) has more bugs than Vista…you need to get institutionalized.

And yes, Wireless etc should work fine.
I see no reason why you would even WANT to run Windows programs on Ubuntu; there are many better alternatives of *NIX.
If you do want to use WINE (which I only use for WinRAR, I like it better than the Ubutntu Unrarer), then check out this list for your app. http://appdb.winehq.org/

From: Harry
You have got to be trolling. Honestly, if you think that XP (with the latest security updates, of course) has more bugs than Vista…you need to get institutionalized.

And yes, Wireless etc should work fine.
I see no reason why you would even WANT to run Windows programs on Ubuntu; there are many better alternatives of *NIX.
If you do want to use WINE (which I only use for WinRAR, I like it better than the Ubutntu Unrarer), then check out this list for your app. http://appdb.winehq.org/

Thanks Harry. :)

I've decided to install Ubuntu, refer to this thread to help me out. :)

http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?p=597982#post597982

This thread can be closed. Thanks to everyone who posted feedback. :)

From: Coh3n
That's why I'm skeptical to install Ubu, because pretty much all the programs I use require Windows, and I doubt Wine can support them all. Although, I'm sure Ubu has a program equivalent or better.

The main thing I'm looking for is speed. I want my computer to be fast, but also have a good Word Processor with a good PowerPoint program. I know Ubu comes with OO, but I don't know exactly how good it is. Currently I use MO 2007.

Most OS softwares are better than CS.

Ubuntu wins.

From: Harry
You have got to be trolling. Honestly, if you think that XP (with the latest security updates, of course) has more bugs than Vista…you need to get institutionalized.

You can't blame anyone for that. People still think Java is slow even though it's only barely slower than native bytecode now. Vista also has a cluttered, confusing, disorganized, and slow user interface (and personally I think it's just plain ugly as well). Everyone's in love with Win7 only because it's not Vista.

WINE runs like 80% of programs. You can run a wine program from the terminal and see any output – which is good, as most program errors are simply a missing DLL. So you download the DLL and off you go.

From: R0b0t1
WINE runs like 80% of programs. You can run a wine program from the terminal and see any output – which is good, as most program errors are simply a missing DLL. So you download the DLL and off you go.

Yeah that would be very helpful. :)

From: Harry
OVER 9000?! You need a better Wireless card =3

No, the card is very good (not high end, but very good for the price). It's a known problem, and nobody has had major success getting it to work in Ubuntu yet AFAIK.

From: Coh3n
1: Wireless internet shouldn't be a problem.

Then go with Ubuntu, but I'd really suggest installing a tiny XP partition for now, in case you manage to screw up Ubuntu and can't boot.. but I guess you could just boot from the live CD.

From: bullzeye95
Then go with Ubuntu, but I'd really suggest installing a tiny XP partition for now, in case you manage to screw up Ubuntu and can't boot.. but I guess you could just boot from the live CD.

Already installed Ubu and so far so good. :)

I really hope I don't run into problems, lol so we'll see. :)

Thanks to everyone who gave me feedback.

This can be closed.

Just dual boot it?
It can't hurt, I am going to reinstall my pc too soon.

From: Hermen
Just dual boot it?
It can't hurt, I am going to reinstall my pc too soon.

Too late. :p

And I didn't want to cause TBH I installed Ubuntu because I was sick of Vista. If I kept it on this computer I would never use it again, and it would just be wasted space, not to mention I don't have a lot of space on my hard drive to begin with. I doubt having two OS would be a good idea.

bullzeye, might I suggest you install ndiswrapper? Even if you have a driver that works, I imagine ndiswrapper would help b/c you'd be using the windows driver.

Also, you should do that if you have problems anyway.

From: R0b0t1
bullzeye, might I suggest you install ndiswrapper? Even if you have a driver that works, I imagine ndiswrapper would help b/c you'd be using the windows driver.

Also, you should do that if you have problems anyway.

Yes, I have tried it and it didn't work. However I think I figured out a couple days ago that the reason it's not working is because I'm running Ubuntu x64, and there are no x64 drivers that work with ndiswrapper. So one of these days I'm gonna wipe my existing installation and install x84 Ubuntu.

So even though you're running Ubuntu it's still a Windows driver problem?

Bullzeye, what is the name of your card?

@Wizzup? - help me set VirtualBox up to work with XP
i installed TinyXP and i dont have any internet through XP :/

~shut

From: Shuttleu
@Wizzup? - help me set VirtualBox up to work with XP
i installed TinyXP and i dont have any internet through XP :/

~shut

And you run Ubuntu as main OS?

From: Wizzup?
Bullzeye, what is the name of your card?

TRENDnet TEW-424UB

I booted into an x86 live CD, and it seems to be better. I have the same connection (40-50%), but not nearly as many packets dropped/complete outages, and that was without ndiswrapper. I think I will install x86 over my existing partition when I get back from vacation.

From: Wizzup?
And you run Ubuntu as main OS?

yes
i run ubuntu
i installed Virtualbox
downloaded TinyXP Rev 09
installed it
no internet through the VM

~shut

Just install both Coh3n.

if you really want to have some fun, try downloading and burning a copy of
"iPC_OSx86_10.5.6" its leopard that can be run on no apple hardware. if you have issues just google your problem, its decently covered (unless you have a phenom or turion)

i got a tri-boot on my laptop soon. vista, fedora and mac leopard (well mac tiger atm)

aaaah yea (hitting some rough patches because i have a turion, i tiger installed but i cant get leopard working)

From: Shuttleu
yes
i run ubuntu
i installed Virtualbox
downloaded TinyXP Rev 09
installed it
no internet through the VM

~shut

did you try toggling the virtual ethernet adaptor? i got mine configured just changing to a diff adaptor

From: bullzeye95
I say XP for three reasons:
1. Since you're using a laptop, you probably use wireless internet. In general, wireless support on Ubuntu absolutely sucks. I have never gotten nearly as good a signal on Ubuntu as I have on XP, and I have tried it with multiple computers. I can't even get my wireless adapter that I have now to work on Ubuntu from about 30 ft. away from the router. It connects for about 10 seconds max, and then disconnects for however long it feels like.
2. SCAR/SMART will run slower. Wine's a great program, but it's not as fast as native Windows. If you want to run the max amount of SCARs/SMARTs, use Windows.
3. If you plan on gaming at all (which I doubt, since you're on a laptop, but I'm still throwing this out there), use XP.

This guy is totally right. I tested both OS and there's nothing on linux that you can't do with windows (at least for a medium experienced user like me). On the other hand, there are lots of things that lunix leaks of.(Eg: the ability to run SCAR propperly).

From: Shady?
there's nothing on linux that you can't do with windows

Keeping it on for 2 days straight.

From: Shady?
This guy is totally right. I tested both OS and there's nothing on linux that you can't do with windows (at least for a medium experienced user like me). On the other hand, there are lots of things that lunix leaks of.(Eg: the ability to run SCAR propperly).

with a VM and tinyXP you can run scar flawlessly (thats what i do). As another said, some versions of scar have more problems in WINE than others.

customization is something you can do with linux to a much higher degree than windows. for example, on my top tab i have icons representing each processor, which i can under/over clock with at any time with 2 clicks. (thats not much, but im not big with customizing my gui, it works as is)

From: Shady?
This guy is totally right. I tested both OS and there's nothing on linux that you can't do with windows (at least for a medium experienced user like me). On the other hand, there are lots of things that lunix leaks of.(Eg: the ability to run SCAR propperly).

I would like to discuss this, because your statement s just false. First of all, it is not Linux's fault that SCAR is written for Windows only.
Furthermore, there is ALOT that you cannot do on windows, but can on Linux.
Examples: Bash and Terminals, Program a GUI without a WinAPI that comes straight from hell, Inject Packets, Program with vim and an up to date gcc, Use your computer without the big issue of virusses (which also saves a lot of CPU, btw), multiple desktops, enjoy epic desktop effects with compiz, enjoy free software only, enjoy the overall freedom of your system, you can tweak it as much as you want, enjoy multiple pointers, and generally enjoying a stable environment.

Just my opinion, though. :)

From: Shuttleu
yes
i run ubuntu
i installed Virtualbox
downloaded TinyXP Rev 09
installed it
no internet through the VM

~shut

Try what rogue poser said. :)

From: bullzeye95
TRENDnet TEW-424UB

I booted into an x86 live CD, and it seems to be better. I have the same connection (40-50%), but not nearly as many packets dropped/complete outages, and that was without ndiswrapper. I think I will install x86 over my existing partition when I get back from vacation.

That looks like quite exotic hardware. :p
But yea, it seems to work now? :)

From: Widget
Keeping it on for 2 days straight.

Is this true? :p Because that's kinda funny if it is. I've had my laptop on for almost 8 months now ^^ (I put it to sleep though, so I guess it's kinda different.. and it's on Vista.. but still! :p).

From: Shady?
This guy is totally right. I tested both OS and there's nothing on linux that you can't do with windows (at least for a medium experienced user like me). On the other hand, there are lots of things that lunix leaks of.(Eg: the ability to run SCAR propperly).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LUnix
Considering LUnix is for the Commodore 64, I would expect it to struggle to run Scar at all. However, I do agree that if you are to compare Windows to another OS, it should be on the same level of which the two are on equalish grounds in most areas.

i will try a different version of xp

~shut