SRL Archive - RS has been updated.

Well i just looked on there update and they changed rules 7 and 9 to outlaw world switchers but what worries me is that they say they have a new macro detetction system that look for suspicouse behavior anyone have any idea of what it might be???

From: Dadeer
they say they have a new macro detetction system that look for suspicouse behavior

Link please?

From: Boreas
Link please?

lol www.runescape.com?

link: http://news.runescape.com/lang/en/aff/runescape/newsitem.ws?id=684

Where does it say new macro detection system that looks for suspicious behavior?

Die swiftbitch die!

From: Runescape.com
We're also looking at adding an official 'group chat' system into the game ASAP for clans and other groups of players to use.

Lol.

Freddy does this affect SCSS?

Spky, they forgot the 'so we can monitor you' part. Big Brother much?

Freddy thats not funny, Swift Switch is one of the best things I know when playing Runescape, jagex is just bashing themselves.

Back on the thread, I don't see them mentioning new macro system?

WTF??? Noooooo!!! Swiftswitch is toast now, I guess. So is SCSS and ScarBrowser. Wait, there again arises the question: Can they detect 3rd party browsers? Cookies? UserAgent???

I see dire times coming up…

I don't think they can detect it at all. ;)

From: botmaster
WTF??? Noooooo!!! Swiftswitch is toast now, I guess. So is SCSS and ScarBrowser.

SCSS and ScarBrowser are still legal. They just made the programs illegal that you use to chat to other people with or macro. The web-based ones are still legal, just not recommended.

From: Cheesehunk
SCSS and ScarBrowser are still legal. They just made the programs illegal that you use to chat to other people with or macro. The web-based ones are still legal, just not recommended.

SCSS is a world-switcher, they ban you for doing that.

Eh, I always use the normal client now anyway…

There's a protest in central fally w27.

Edit: it's pretty funny, worth checking out, tons of people talking, dropping stuff, scrambling to buy/sell stuff, santas whips etc, people are using retribution prayer lol

For clarity's sake. Here is the article…

We have updated Rule 7 and Rule 9 to clarify some long standing grey areas, and to cover some recent threats. Please take the time to re-read both rules and make sure you fully understand them.

The reason for this update is both to clarify some very frequently asked questions, and also to help address recent threats which have been harming our players. In particular we have extended rule 7 to make it clear that it DOES now include third party RuneScape clients/world switchers.

We have done this for two main reasons: a) The sheer number of users losing their account/password to programs which pretend to be one thing but actually steal their password; b) Problems with some of these programs including extremely unsafe chat channels where large amounts of scamming go on, and users encourage each other to try to break the rules.

When RuneScape fansites are distributing programs on which 50% of the chat channels are being used to discuss breaking the rules or result in their own users being scammed, it's clear that our rules need revision! We don't want to be unnecessarily restrictive, but we obviously also have to balance that with protecting our users. We've thought long and hard about this, and hence this update.

Update 2-Jan-07 - 17:21 GMT

Further to that I just want to clarify a few extra things:

1) We're absolutely NOT going to ban people who used such world-switchers historically. That would be completely unfair given we've only just mentioned this! We will of course give everyone plenty of chance to read and understand the rule, and get rid of such programs first.

2) It's only RuneScape specific add-on programs we're talking about here. You can of course still use things like msn/aim whilst playing. Just bear in mind that if you do so it's entirely at your own risk, and we won't be be able to help with abuse/scamming. (so we don't recommend it at all, but it's ultimately up to you)

3) We're also looking at adding an official 'group chat' system into the game ASAP for clans and other groups of players to use

Interesting. How could they possibly detect you are switching worlds not using the regular client?

I used swiftswitch and eliteswitch but didn't see what's so good about it

15-16-601-36919004 thats quickfind code on their forums for debate about it, some people list features.

From: Wizzup?
SCSS is a world-switcher, they ban you for doing that.

Hmm, never saw that…:( As Fakawi said, how can they possibly detect that? I don't think they can, maybe if you play Signed they have a file check or something, but they still couldn't check I don't think..

Fakawi i believe they can detect if your logging in from from the RS client or IE/Mozilla so maybe they cant detect the actuall change but they can detect what u log in with, correct me if im wrong but im sure there was a big post about this over on Sbot-3 forums in its day

I think its finally time to see if scar is truly undetectible…because by the sounds of it…they've turned their attention towards us and are trying to find ways to catch scar…i wouldn't be surprised if they got their devs to d/l scar and a script of two to try to find a way to detect better lol:(

From: Hobbit
I think its finally time to see if scar is truly undetectible…because by the sounds of it…they've turned their attention towards us and are trying to find ways to catch scar…i wouldn't be surprised if they got their devs to d/l scar and a script of two to try to find a way to detect better lol:(

Well actually I doubt they are downloading scar now. I mean they probably would have it all ready downloaded if they were to ever download programs to try and detect better. At least I would think that.

yah but they never really cared about us till now…since aryran was mass ban….who's lefT? the idiots and us -.-

If Jagex really wants to kill all the world switchers, why don't they get off their duffs and create an actual client instead of an exe file that uses internet explorer to go to runescape.com.

If they really tried, they could make a better one cause well.. they know everything. Perfect calculators, combat calc, stats, etc etc etc.

i thought IE was used by SS anyway, so what difference is there really? apart from the functions,

"It's only RuneScape specific add-on programs we're talking about here. You can of course still use things like msn/aim whilst playing. Just bear in mind that if you do so it's entirely at your own risk, and we won't be be able to help with abuse/scamming. (so we don't recommend it at all, but it's ultimately up to you)"

Jagex conspiring against MSN and AIM?

nah saying that people might lie on that… lol, then we should not make a client specificly for runescape… make it so you can set the links;) in a favourite kinda map… wie just set um to the worlds… np at all… is it

but jagex said b4 that swiftswitch was approved by them because "it does not give the users an unfair advantage in the game" so it is fair to use. they are just worried about the other clients that arrise to the scene to steal your account. Don't worry about swiftswitch, continue to use it. if u happen to get in trouble, tell them that they approved it in the past. i doubt they care about swift at all.

but they did say they hate the clients that "skip" their homepage. swift needs to display that page somewhere atleast once. then they'll have no reason to cry.

From: dlsa
"It's only RuneScape specific add-on programs we're talking about here. You can of course still use things like msn/aim whilst playing. Just bear in mind that if you do so it's entirely at your own risk, and we won't be be able to help with abuse/scamming. (so we don't recommend it at all, but it's ultimately up to you)"

Jagex conspiring against MSN and AIM?

it's a legal matter, they don't hate MSN or AIM. they just can't say they approve of it cuz some moron out there will find a way to sew them for "approving" of AIM and MSN. AIM Triton should die in my opinion. i went to download.com and downloaded the latest AIM b4 all that Triton junk so I don't need to install their spy-ware.

but they have to take no part in recommending using those programs: "…but it's ultimately up to you." and "…if you do so it's entirely at your own risk…"

EDIT:: due to their new update, swift is safe… (told ya)

My main is in that pic!

From: dlsa
"It's only RuneScape specific add-on programs we're talking about here. You can of course still use things like msn/aim whilst playing. Just bear in mind that if you do so it's entirely at your own risk, and we won't be be able to help with abuse/scamming. (so we don't recommend it at all, but it's ultimately up to you)"

Jagex conspiring against MSN and AIM?

ya… i heard that Jagex could see all the programs you have open while playing runescape?

is that true?

No, breach of privacy.

edit: here's a funny post on forums by Demomonkey

Many Runescape Players are aware of the recent rules update banning third party software to play Runescape. However what you may not be aware of is the fact that the company also strongly discourages the use of third party HARDWARE to play Runescape.

For example, it has come to their attention that many players are using computers, and the Internet, to play Runescape. Obviously this is not in the spirit of the game. It gives these players an unfair advantage over players using posted letters, morse code, tin cans with strings between them, and Etch-a-sketches to contact the Runescape client.

In addition, it is an unfortunate fact that 100% of people who have been hacked or had their keywords stolen, were using computers to play Runescape. These peoples also run the risk of having their computers invaded by unstable, malicious and dangerous software that will bring their systems to a grinding halt and cause them to scream with frustration, such as “Internet Explorer” or “Windows”.

For these reasons, all use of computers to play Runescape will be terminated, and players using these evil and corrupt devices will not only be banned, but also excommunicated and then hurled into a pit of insane rabid beavers. (The same one they throw old programmers into.)

However, to balance this out, Runescape will now be made in three new formats: Braille, Cave Painting, and Mocha Latte.

Thank you.

Signed,
Not-even-remotely-a-Jagex-representative.

Flippin funny! Well, to bad I never used swiftswitch. (sounds good).

haha, that's funny. i wonder if people that use programs like SS and EC complain to jagex when they get hacked? if you i can only imagin them saying they use those programs.

yer i use swift and find its much easier for world changing and the utilities like screenies and calc = good ideas

I was at that rally spaming save ss! No ss no rs lol

SwiftSwitch i think will be legal again soon

[03 Jan 2007] SwiftSwitch will be legal!(Updated)

After the latest update Jagex have made to their official RuneScape rules 7 and 9, SwiftSwitch will once again be legal. I say will because there are certain changes that need to be made to make SwiftSwitch 100% legal.

Everyone can expect an update out sometime this weekend. Till then I would suggest that you don't use SwiftSwitch, as it does still break a number of the rules.

I want to thank everyone for showing an overwhelming amount of support. I was stoked to see just how much support everyone was giving, it definitely makes my job alot easier.

Also a big thanks to Jagex, they could of easily left things the way they were and SwiftSwitch could still be banned. Instead they have been very responsive to the communities outcry and come up with a way achieve what they originally set out to do with the rule changes but still allow decent, rule abiding World Switchers/Toolkits like SwiftSwitch to remain.

Hopefully jagex smartens up, and if they really want people to stop using 3rd party clients, they will make one them selves, including plently of tools similar to ss(notepad, hi-scores lookup etc)

i have no idea wat they use but all i know is this, i used a flax picker for 3 days and on the third day i got banned with 15k flax =(

3 days sounds like the lifetime of aryan, clickmouse and other detectable stuff..

fuck, just got my main banned, 22 black marks, rofl

Someone, how did that happen?

i just use firefox… hehe me <3 firefox

i just use thier own client and scss to auto…hey fawaki im in the screen shot you yook :D

How can they detect a world switcher its not like they can see the whole screen of your computer or can they.

becasue the switcher is cominicating with the java applet differently than thier own client and they can detect it

the switcher i used to use was based on firefox dll's doubt they could detect

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From: WinterDream
Hmm i'm wondering how they can see if you are using Worldswitch
Since you are not logged into the game when you use…? maby im wrong

because the switcher is still interacting with their client

From: Hobbit
i just use thier own client and scss to auto…hey fawaki im in the screen shot you yook :D

ROFL!

is that true?!?

what was it for?

prayer party!?!?

no it was a protest agaisnt the ban of swift switch

The prayer is called Retribution.

well you could have still used swift switch (the illegal version) if you didn't update it, but i didn't know lol, i love updates, WHY DO I HAVE TO LOVE UPDATES!!!! aghh my love of updates became a disadvantage, and also now you can disguise scripts as AIM or MSN :D because they wont get as suspicious and new detection update? how would you or anyone know anyways? unless your a spy from jagex but…. seriously…

well you can use ss again after the protest they changed the rule again to allow it

ss and other switchers that use IE and just hide the banner don't communicate any differently.

From: logik
well you could have still used swift switch (the illegal version) if you didn't update it, but i didn't know lol, i love updates, WHY DO I HAVE TO LOVE UPDATES!!!! aghh my love of updates became a disadvantage, and also now you can disguise scripts as AIM or MSN :D because they wont get as suspicious and new detection update? how would you or anyone know anyways? unless your a spy from jagex but…. seriously…

They disabled the switcher in the older versions as well……. RAM

well why use a switcher now? they did a new update after the sound mute at login screen(botom right corner) not it the bottom left there is another button used sorta like a world switcher…also i think with that button they helped us out a bit…we can probably use freddy's scss to world switch..but those not that advanced like me…you could use that button and it would be easier and more reliable than the other opion at the top

I think if you delete the UID file, they cannot detect you anymore.

Ofcourse they can.

Explain please Wizzup?. I don't understand, how can they ban your other accounts when you deleted the only reference file that links your accounts?

It should protect you for a chain ban.. but remeber this, if you load signed world, then get your uid(if any) and put it in memory, this one will only be cleared if you

a. exit rs
b. change world.

Just delete your uid before you load a world, and you should be fine, but they can still ban your accounts for the uid in memory, plus if you just use bad scripts they can ban you one by one.

Now when we are talking about new macro detect system, I am not saying that the scripts are clumsy, they are excellent except :
SRL's human like things are only in mouse and keyboard.
(What I know) So the scripts should be more humanlike working could we say?
I was watching wizzup's esser going to esses from bank and actually if jagex has enough brain to monitor someone then they will detect even srl macros if the atm mods arent stupid as chicken. What would you think about this if you see someone walking to ess like —Click minimap point— Flag; — wait(1-3 secs holy …..!!!').
think yourself really walking to ess , you go there lot faster, you click minimap wait until mageshop is in the minimap and u click somewhere there!
As scripts click minimap, wait until flag is off, wait some time, click mage shop.
I dont know is it impossible, but that would make jagex think like " That fair player is gonna be a Mod some day! " :D rofl.
But, the current srl is perfect for current cheating system or what should i call it. I havent got banned by any srl script thanks .
And for plugsters post at first page i got another idea. If someone catches rs somehow, make new webpage www.srl-forums.com/SRLScape
and use <object> with rs thingy there.
So it isnt a client and you log in from an internet browser.
Then you can make links to the servers. N1ce?

well still it is human like even wit the flag waiting cause i know people who actually do that in real life >.< kinda annoying cause they walk to slow

well even though they now possibly can detect what browser your looking through they made a thing on the log in screen when you use the signed applet you can log into different worlds without loading the runescape over and over again

they can make some cookie and check ur webrowser profile. you can esily get by that.

personally i think its a load of bull… just psychological.

isnt freddy's world switcher just IE? so how would they know your using a word switcher or just plain IE?

im using ES..is that alright?

and how the hell do they know if im using ES or just bookmarkd or have html files on my deskptop (Like we alldo)

getting into world 2 is easy,. (with es LOL) but is eS detectable?
btw my SS died,. it closes each time i slecte a world to play on, my java goes ape shit and gives me a VJM error! (well a log file, with heaps of shit i dont understand :S)

um i want 2 use my SS but its fucked :S anyone help or am i posting in the wrong place?